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Chinese Windows CE netbooks
Your laptop is thin, light, has a long battery life and is also the first of its kind without volume production to drive cost down?
Toshiba isn't the only maker of ARM netbooks. I saw a bunch of Chinese 7" netbooks with Windows CE on a kiosk at the mall the other day. It runs Internet Explorer and other apps designed for Pocket PC.
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Re:Non-sense quote about device support
Someone needs to remind nVidia of the IBM Workpad z50
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Re:Not the big deal...
a problem that can't be fixed without making the netbook bigger to fit a better keyboard
Wish that IBM or Lenovo would ride this bandwagon too. They have a good-sized case in the workpad z50 back then (not the palm, the subnotebook wannabe http://www.hpcfactor.com/reviews/hardware/ibm/workpad-z50/), so why not resurrect it. This way, they got the "low-end" covered too
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Re:It would fit in a jacket pocket...
I loved the Workpad z50. One of the coolest little machines I ever owned, even if it did run WinCE. I ended up shipping it down to my mother and she used it for email and web browsing for 2 or 3 years.
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Re:Seriously?
Are you seriously stating that you're considering a 190mhz machine, with 64MB of RAM, with a 640x480 8-bit display, as a web browser? Do you use the same web I do? Even applying CSS rules would crush that machine.
And yet, strangely, I've been surfing the Web all the time I'm away on a trip on my NEC MobilePro 900C using Opera. People should bloody stop assuming that it's impossible to have a working desktop computer unless you use 1 GHz and a shitload of RAM.
How about you stop and think what specs PC's had at the beginning of the 90's, and still people somehow managed to get their stuff done. Apps haven't changed that much in between, we basically do most of the same stuff now that we did back then.
The MobilePro is a great example. It has a WiFi connection and a wired one (thanks to PC cards), solid state storage (CF card), I get to surf the Web, it doubles as a book reader and manga reader, I can listen to streaming online radio or MP3's (got speakers and headphone jack), I play games, edit and view office docs, see PDF's, I have SSH, Total Commander, email, Skype, YM, IRC, remote desktop and VNC, runs Python, got all kinds of file tools (search and so on) etc.
Basically, with the exception of playing movies (although it can do that too with some limitations) or big-ass games or P2P, it's everything a regular desktop is. All that in under 10x5 inches, a regular keyboard, touchscreen, 400 MHz CPU and 64 MB of RAM. Did I mention it has a 16bit screen (65535 colors)? Or that it's a USB host and can use USB printers and mice? -
Re:HPC Pro does the trick better.
This sums it up
NEC MobilePro browser screen -
Re:WTF? WinCE
If you want to look at a kind-of, sort-of OLPC machine running winCE, check out the IBM Workpad:
http://www.hpcfactor.com/reviews/hardware/ibm/workpad-z50/
I owned one about 6 years ago but sold it on eBay. It was very light and small, but easy to type on and great battery life.
I wish it had a bigger screen but that was really my only complaint.
It didn't have half the features of OLPC and retailed for over $1k, but it came out in '98 when laptops and anything small was still pretty expensive. Plus it was built by IBM.
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IBM Workpad z50
This thing reminds me a lot of the IBM Workpad z50 I had. Yes, it's not as powerful as a laptop. Yes, it's bigger than a PDA. But I still miss the little thing. Sometimes you just need a full-sized keyboard and reasonable display and don't want the overhead of a laptop. I don't care if I can't run Eclipse. I don't care if it won't run some hulking Adobe application, I just want something a step up from a word processor where I can write documents and code fragments that gets out of the way and lets me think about the problem. I want to turn it on and start typing, not sit there stewing while it boots or lose my concentration because applications are nagging me about trivial updates.
Think of it as a modern Tandy 102 and it begins to make sense. I'm not sure I trust Palm the company, but that's somewhat unrelated to this specific piece of hardware. -
IBM WorkPad, meet the Toshiba Libretto
Come on - this is new? It looks like beter executions on a five+ year-old product.
Take a look at the IBM z50
And the Toshiba Libretto
And remind me, what is the new product here - faster CPU? Better battery life? Oh wait, it runs LINUX! When can I pre-order it? -
Win98 on Jornada 720
I remember reading about BOCHS emulation on the WinCE platform, which one guys used to install Win98 on a Jornada 720 (StrongARM 206Mhz, 32MB ram). It took 17 hours... the emulated left only 12MB for the operating environment.
http://www.hpcfactor.com/reviews/editorial/bochs-2 -1-1/ -
Re:Good present for grandparents as well?
At a similar time, I owned a Hitachi HPW10E4MB; it came pretty close as well and in fact I bought my brother a Casio Cassiopeia A-60 at the same time with thoughts in that direction. Unfortuneately, the HPC market soon died, replaced by PocketPCs for the most part. This is more what I had in mind, but it's cost is well outside the range anybody would expect.