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I can't believe no one has figured this out yet. There is a p2p software program published by a company called i2hub. This program is used by students at participating universities to chat and share files over internet2. So all RIAA did was go to the i2hub company with a subpoena and insist they have access to their login/passwords to people sharing whatever music they wanted to track down. It has nothing to do with internet2 itself, other than that i2hub is used there.

I wonder who narc'd everyone out?

Slashdot , News.com.com and i2hub.com did.

There is also an official press release from the people at i2hub, here: http://press.i2hub.com/i2hubpressrelease-4122005.p df.

i2hub doesn't host any files centrally, nor do they keep any indexes of files on the network, so they should be fine. P2P lives on another day.

yeah but After recent crackdowns at Columbia and Princeton , i2hub users might twice about the use of the P2P Direct Connect hub. With letter's of intent to subpoena having been received at several other universities including Carnegie Mellon, many questions are being raised targeting the source of the crackdown. How did the RIAA gain access to a Internet2 connection. Are universities cooperating in the access. How will the long hidden Direct Connect community respond?

I'm just waiting for someone to snatch up www.i2hub.com, www.connectu.com, www.stallscribbles.com, and www.jungalu.com. They're all run by the same company, and they target the college market. All the sites are popular with students (different segments). ConnectU has one of the best social networking technologies. i2hub, one of the most popular desktop tools for college students just recently released i2hub 2.0, which ties in ConnectU directly. Pretty cool stuff these guys are releasing. Their founder is featured in Current Magazine as the technology leader for his generation.

Ultra high speed transfers, closed college network.. what more can you ask for?

We all know that P2P networks violate copyright on Internet Classic. Internet2 currently offers better bandwidth and some element of privacy (due to membership being exclusive)...does anyone here really think that it's not contributing to copyright violation? There are apps like i2hub that are Internet2-specific P2P clients. We all know there are copyrighted works being traded on i2hub. And I'm sure all the folks doing file-sharing on Internet Classic would rather be doing so with the resources available on Internet2 if they only could.

The MPAA/RIAA (or the FBI/police/courts) should be able to investigate. If there was a university-only trucking company that we all knew was transporting stolen goods*, would we all be claiming they were unsearchable, simply because the stores being stolen from aren't a "member" of the trucking company?

Personally, I think the MPAA/RIAA should get a court order for this, not unlike a search warrant.

Lets not let our shared animosity toward the MPAA/RIAA cause us to actually endorse and defend piracy. I wouldn't be surprised if the software I develop for a living was being distributed on Internet2, and for me (or the company I work for) to be completley unable to stop that simply because we're not an "academic or research" company is absurd.

* Yes, I know, copyright violation isn't stealing, but that doesn't hurt the analogy.

With the spirit that Internet2 is designed for educational and research purposes

I2Hub only allows clients on I2 to connect. I'm not sure how they do it; maybe with WHOIS data or a BGP looking glass.

The real reason they want to be on: to scare college students off of i2hub. If you can, try it, you will start hating the normal p2p networks. Research be damned, I want to download a movie in 15 minutes!

and why very few people still use DirectConnect

DC is quite popular. Check out I2Hub, for example. Its just a DC hub over Internet2.

I do agree, though, that's its extremely simple to track people with DC.

If you're at an Internet 2 school, you are getting it off the Internet 2 link, so you're getting the firehose that is Internet 2 during off-peak hours.

And if you are at an Internet 2 school, may I suggest i2hub, for incredible file sharing bliss. I pull down movies in like 30 minutes.

RPI is one of the top participators on i2hub. At least few terabytes are shared by those guys, and download speed from them (Im at UMBC) range from 150kb/sec-500kb/sec.

Pay-per-song music services are fairly useless at campuses that are running Internet2. They don't have any advantages whatsoever. They don't have a larger collection of music than i2hub and they can't possibly offer faster download speeds. (Internet2 generally gets a downstream of around 3 MegaBYTES/s. Plus, although it would be nice to legally own music, college students are inherently lacking in funds.

They're trying Cdigix at my campus right now, but I don't think anyone is using it. =\

The best campuses are offering Internet2 connectivity -- I wouldn't even consider going to a college without Internet2 access. The main advantage of Internet2, besides speed, is that it is separate from the regular Internet1, and less susceptible to monitoring by third parties such as corrupt administrators and the questionable activities of BayTSP and others.

I've been using I2Hub for a couple weeks at my college and am very impressed. All the benefits of fast Internet P2P at college, without the drawbacks (i.e., the RIAA suing you).

Personally I don't buy the subsidized Napster or other music service access. I would rather choose a college based on its academic credibility, performance, a rigorous curriculum and dedicated teachers. College is an investment, and while access to these services may seem nice, I doubt many students will choose colleges entirely based on this. You would get much more out of going to a well-respected established universe than a cheap fly-by-night college that gives out useful gadgets for free to lure you in to paying for a four-year education. That said, Internet2 and iPods are invaluable, but I think of them more as gifts than a deciding factor in choosing which campus to matriculate to.

Amen. The quintessential college experience summed up in 7 easy steps. I'd like to add a couple very important points. Women love Jagermeister. Always keep some in your room so you can offer it to that hot girl you just met in the quad. Also, the hot chicks are all taking Psych or Sociology.

Also, most schools use packet shapers and otehr tools to prevent P2P apps from forming connections. If your school is part of the Internet2 project, you can try this. It operates outside of the internet, is uber-fast, and the RIAA spies don't have access to spy on you.

Your biggest asset besides beer money and more beer money --- i2hub.com.

Cool, now all the Duke students can use i2hub.com.

Why, I'd go on i2hub ofcourse

Note that several hundred internet2 universities are now allowed to connect to internet2 direct connect hub. Check out i2hub for blazing fast college filesharing!

There is no single "DC Network", like there isn't a single "Bittorrent Network". One of the biggest DC hubs, though, i2hub (slashdot story), had about 64 terrabytes at its peak, at the end of the last school year. That's 64,000 gigs, and while that's a lot and the hub is generally very fast and responsive, its still much much smaller than Kazaa.

That is, if you USE the media converter. I actually bought a fiber card (back when we had no option, fiber card or nothing...) and now I can download at 25MB/s from other on campus users. Also since our I2 isn't capped, we can get great rates from other universities on that as well. Great for things like I2hub. ;)

Both universities are on i2hub.com ;-) Why pay the industry when i2hub has everything you want?