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Re:Good. Less problems for the pirates
Yeah,
that is obvious if you consider that 99% of the ocean is basically never traveled by a ship
...However if you look at typical freight routes, then the percentage of piracy affected segments jumps up considerably.
Here you have an overview about the 10 most dangerous areas: https://www.marineinsight.com/...
Here you have a life view: https://www.icc-ccs.org/piracy...
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Re:Unarmed ships are helpless.
There are tons more like it.
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Re:Unarmed ships are helpless.
There are legal issues about having weapons on a ship. That is, when they transit different national waters, they may, or may not, be allowed to have some, or any, weapons on the ship, regardless if it's stored or not.
Simpler. Say your boat leaves a country where you can legally have Gatling guns. You transit inside another nation's waters where you can't legally have one, such as the Canada, US, or Mexico. You could end up in jail over it. Depending on the rules and policies, it could be the responsible party, captain, or crew. Unmounting the Gatling gun, and placing it in a locker isn't usually good enough.
Cargo ships can be transiting the waters of many nations during their cruise.
I wouldn't really focus on the chance of escalating force. The pirates that are committing most of these crimes are working on a real shoe-string budget. Like, a small boats, where the pirates are armed with knives, rifles, and the (very) occasional RPG. Clicking through the pirate activity map, I couldn't find any reports stating heavier weapons than rifles. Most were unarmed, or armed with knives. If they could afford, or steal, better ships and weapons, they'd be doing it already.
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Re:"terrorists"
While I agree terrorist is not the correct term, very few Somali pirate attacks occur in Somali waters.
I'm also not sure how committing a crime against a person gives them moral justification to commit crimes against anybody, anywhere. Surely this is not what you're suggesting?
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Re:That's an aweful lot of porn.
Care to give an example? From what I've read, pirates are alive and well.
If you're sailing in the areas where the above maps have red markers, you may want to read this.
Excerpt:
Gulf of Aden:
Somali pirates are attacking vessels in the northern Somali coast in the Gulf of Aden. These pirates are firing automatic weapons and Rocket Propelled Grenades (RPG) in an attempt to board and hijack vessels. Once the attack is successful and the vessel hijacked, the pirates sail the vessel to the Somali coast and thereafter demand a ransom for the safe release of the vessel and crew. -
Re:That's an aweful lot of porn.
Care to give an example? From what I've read, pirates are alive and well.
If you're sailing in the areas where the above maps have red markers, you may want to read this.
Excerpt:
Gulf of Aden:
Somali pirates are attacking vessels in the northern Somali coast in the Gulf of Aden. These pirates are firing automatic weapons and Rocket Propelled Grenades (RPG) in an attempt to board and hijack vessels. Once the attack is successful and the vessel hijacked, the pirates sail the vessel to the Somali coast and thereafter demand a ransom for the safe release of the vessel and crew. -
Re:That's an aweful lot of porn.
Care to give an example? From what I've read, pirates are alive and well.
If you're sailing in the areas where the above maps have red markers, you may want to read this.
Excerpt:
Gulf of Aden:
Somali pirates are attacking vessels in the northern Somali coast in the Gulf of Aden. These pirates are firing automatic weapons and Rocket Propelled Grenades (RPG) in an attempt to board and hijack vessels. Once the attack is successful and the vessel hijacked, the pirates sail the vessel to the Somali coast and thereafter demand a ransom for the safe release of the vessel and crew. -
Re:Why bother going?
You forgot about the pirates. Where else would you go to see a real life pirate other than anywhere else in the world.
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They've kidnapped the maps!
NEWS FLASH
This just in...
Somali pirates have seized control of Slashdot and are using it as their new gunship to take down web sites such as http://www.icc-ccs.org/ .
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Your first premise is wrong ! +1, Helpful
There are NO rules in Amerika. Furthermore, why isn't U.S.A. on the live piracy map given the bailout of the U.S.A.?
Cordially,
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Re:What kind of pirates?
See http://www.icc-ccs.org/imb/overview.php for the statistics of real piracy.
To talk of "piracy" when you're really talking about copyright violation is pure propaganda and showing disrespect to the victims of piracy.
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Piracy?
Strange, here's a map of global piracy
China and Russia don't seem to be a problem at all?
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Re:When will the denials stop?
Well, we all know decreases in piracy are the real reason for global warming because pirates are cool so less pirates means a warmer planet.
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Re:It's Pirates I tell Ye Laddy
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Weekly Piracy Report
Want to see where piracy occurs? Try http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracyreport.php Most piracy is taking place in SE Asia and off the Somali coast - not that it doesn't happen elsewhere (like, say, Brazil for instance).
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UAVs whan?
According to the Weekly Piracy Report there are UAVs watching our oceans, so what makes you think they're not already watching us too?
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Re:Weekly piracy report
Dammit, shoulda included the link to the 2004 Maritime Piracy Maps.
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Re:Be Greedo
Sorry, only close to correct. Most modern piracy occurs in Southeast Asia. You can check the Piracy Reporting Centre of the International Chamber of Commerce's International Maritime Bureau for more data. There's a number of fun stuff at the site including a weekly report of all reported pirate actions (though, a lot goes unreported for various reasons). The link is here: http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracyreport.php You can also see yearly break downs in number of attacks here: http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2004.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2003.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2002.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2001.php It is a truly fascinating subject and I'm glad I got the opportunity to research and write about it last year. Yarr!
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Re:Be Greedo
Sorry, only close to correct. Most modern piracy occurs in Southeast Asia. You can check the Piracy Reporting Centre of the International Chamber of Commerce's International Maritime Bureau for more data. There's a number of fun stuff at the site including a weekly report of all reported pirate actions (though, a lot goes unreported for various reasons). The link is here: http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracyreport.php You can also see yearly break downs in number of attacks here: http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2004.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2003.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2002.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2001.php It is a truly fascinating subject and I'm glad I got the opportunity to research and write about it last year. Yarr!
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Re:Be Greedo
Sorry, only close to correct. Most modern piracy occurs in Southeast Asia. You can check the Piracy Reporting Centre of the International Chamber of Commerce's International Maritime Bureau for more data. There's a number of fun stuff at the site including a weekly report of all reported pirate actions (though, a lot goes unreported for various reasons). The link is here: http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracyreport.php You can also see yearly break downs in number of attacks here: http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2004.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2003.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2002.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2001.php It is a truly fascinating subject and I'm glad I got the opportunity to research and write about it last year. Yarr!
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Re:Be Greedo
Sorry, only close to correct. Most modern piracy occurs in Southeast Asia. You can check the Piracy Reporting Centre of the International Chamber of Commerce's International Maritime Bureau for more data. There's a number of fun stuff at the site including a weekly report of all reported pirate actions (though, a lot goes unreported for various reasons). The link is here: http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracyreport.php You can also see yearly break downs in number of attacks here: http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2004.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2003.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2002.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2001.php It is a truly fascinating subject and I'm glad I got the opportunity to research and write about it last year. Yarr!
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Re:Be Greedo
Sorry, only close to correct. Most modern piracy occurs in Southeast Asia. You can check the Piracy Reporting Centre of the International Chamber of Commerce's International Maritime Bureau for more data. There's a number of fun stuff at the site including a weekly report of all reported pirate actions (though, a lot goes unreported for various reasons). The link is here: http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracyreport.php You can also see yearly break downs in number of attacks here: http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2004.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2003.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2002.php http://www.icc-ccs.org/prc/piracy_maps_2001.php It is a truly fascinating subject and I'm glad I got the opportunity to research and write about it last year. Yarr!
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Weekly piracy report
Oh yes. Pirates are as active as ever. Only nowadays they have machine guns and RPGs instead of blunderbusses and cannons...
Just read IMB's Weekly Piracy Report for an idea of how active and how dangerous modern pirates are. -
Re:What's worse?
As a small department with a lot of area to cover, piracy is the LAST concern any of us have.
I sure hope so, except if your department covers a lot of open sea.
Don't call copyright infringement piracy. Because there is REAL piracy out there: Weekly Piracy Report -
Re:This may have actually BEEN piracyThese guys appear to have been involved in actual piracy.
Quoth the article:
The modified consoles, some holding 15 or more games already copied to the hard drive, were on open display in the stores.
Sorry, that's not piracy. This is piracy.
Pirates should be hung in chains, so the birds can pick their bones. These guys should maybe get a fine and a slap on the wrist. Or maybe we should just change a silly law. It's not piracy.