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Re:Don't you mean Allah?
Actually, there is a complete book that describes allah pretty well - written by an ex-Muslim
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Re:The "Religion of Peace"
Sorry, but you are plain wrong. Al Azhar University in Cairo (the highest authority on Sunni jurisprudence) has repeatedly stated that ISIS is an authentic Islamic entity. This is because ISIS is following the commandments of Sharia to the letter.
ISIS also follow the example of Mohammed exactly. Mohammed raped, slaughtered, lied, assassinated, looted, tortured, beheaded, molested children, etc etc and this is all well-attested in the hadith and commanded in the Koran. ISIS are doing *exactly* what Mohammed did, can commanded all Muslims to do. Fortunately, most Muslims are good human beings (which makes them bad Muslims, 'Takfiris' or apostates - note the Submission ideology [called "Islam" in Arabic] requires apostates to be killed).
To claim that ISIS are carrying out "cultural" practices and not the Submission ideology (aka "Islam") is a classic deception (known as "taqiyya" to Shia, and "idtirar" to Sunni) designed to pacify you so you don't resist Submission until it is too late. The Submission ideology (Islam) is completely alien to Westerners (who incorrectly assume that lying is prohibited, and that there is a Golden Rule producing equality between believers and unbelievers - when there is none, "kaffir"/infidels are considered subhuman that must be exterminated if Islam is to victorious):
http://www.islam-watch.org/aut...So why you defend the evil Submission ideology rather than stand up for Global Enlightenment Civilization is beyond me. Perhaps you think that it is somehow noble to show tolerance to a deceptive, barbaric and totalitarian ideology that works to destroy Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Conscience, Sexual Equality, Equal Rights for Homosexuals, Science (which Islam considers blasphemy ever since the time of Al Ghazali), etc etc
I would suggest that you learn about the true nature of Islam, David - rather than defending an evil you know nothing about (hence, you are easily mislead into repeating the propaganda produced by its adherents). Here's a place you can start looking:
http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/...Stop repeating the propaganda of the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC - who work as a 57-country voting block in the United Nations). Stand up for Individual Liberty and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights rather than the Sharia deception of the "Cairo Declaration of Human Rights". Because making excuses for evil will make you complicit in the evil.
Speaking of which, here are the ISIS prices for slaves including boys and girls from 1 to 9 years old (which is permitted in Islam because Mohammed 'married' a child of 6 years, Aisha bint Abu Bakr):
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/...
Do you really want to be providing apologia for these perfectly 'halal' (legal) Islamic practices of sex slavery and especially child sex-slavery (which Mohammed indulged in, so it is permitted always in Islamic ideology). -
Correct - according to Sharia
You are completely correct. In Sharia, 'slander' of Muslims does not mean telling falsehoods (as it does in the West), it means 'anything a Muslims doesn't want to hear' - especially from a 'kafir which is translated as infidel but is a pejorative closer to 'n*gger'. Non-Muslims are considered subhuman by Sharia.
Major Stephen Coughlin lays the truth about Sharia (Islamic Law) out for you:
Stephen Coughlin, Part 2: Understanding the War on Terror Through Islamic Law [58 mins]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
Islamicists do not want you to know the truth about Islamic law, and they are obliged to lie to you it if advances Islam (there are for types of deception Islam commands: taqiyya, kitman, tawriya and muruna):
http://www.annaqed.com/en/isla...
http://www.islam-watch.org/aut...When a Muslim cleric denounces "terrorism and killing of innocents" this is also a deception. Under Sharia, unlawful warfare is anyone who resists jihad. Our counter-terror forces and militaries are thus considered "terrorists" according to Sharia. Similarly, under Sharia "innocents" are Muslims *only*. Non-Muslims can never be innocent, their existence and disbelief is an affront to Allah (who is the Nabatean chief god Dushara).
So when a Muslim cleric condemns "terrorism and killing of innocents" they are condemning the West for killing Muslims and jihadis. They are using the "kitman" deception that Islam obliges them to.
In order to condemn the Charlie Hebdo attacks a Muslim cleric would have to use the words "we condemn jihadis and the killing of all civilians". But they do not - because they agree with the jihadis, as Islamic scripture requires them to.
The precedent for slaughtering the critics of Islamic evil comes from evil Mohammed himself, who ordered many assassinations of his critics:
http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/...Of course, all of the claims of Islam are false. Historical evidence is emerging that PROVES the claims made about the origins of Islam are all completely false:
" An Historical Critique of Islam's Beginnings - Jay Smith " [72 mins]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...Muslims who know about this scholarship want to suppress it - they are afraid of how the truth with cause their superstition to disintegrate and stop the global jihad in its tracks.
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Re:Bar fucking barians ...
Do you understand the "kitman" deception? Please let m explain:
When a Muslim leader condemns "terrorism" against "innocents" we lap it up, right? We praise them for not wanting to kill us - because we know about 50% of Muslims agree with parts of the Sharia (Islamic law) - at least according to a 2012 Pew Survey. What most don't understand (even Slashdotters) is that the definition of "terrorism" and "innocence" comes from Sharia (Islamic Law).
In Sharia "terrorism" is "unlawful warfare". Jihad is lawful warfare and combating jihad is unlawful warfare. Condemning "terrorism" means condemning the countrer-terror forces of the West, who are trying to save our lives. They understand how you will misinterpret this, and this is permitted for them to deceive because it advances the cause of Islam (after all, the Koran states many times that "Allah is the Greatest of Deceivers").
In Sharia "innocents" are Muslims. All Muslims are always innocent and all kafir (non-Muslims) cannot ever be innocent. Our act of disbelief is a crime under Sharia. Our act of existence is an affront to their Allah (who, if you do the research cannot be YHWH the God of Abraham as they claim, but must be the Nabatean God Dushara based on Koran 53:19-20 - of course none of these ghosts in the sky exist, but it is worth knowing the details so you can defeat their superstition).
So, lets put that back together. A Muslim cleric condemning "terrorism" and the harming of "innocents" is actually saying, "I condemn Western counter-terror forces who are harming Muslims".
Islam is very specific in is wording (it is a totalitarian, theocratic poltiical system with some badly plagiarised superstition on top - it is NOT a personal faith as we understand religion to be).
The only acceptable phrase a Muslim can use is:
"I condemn jihad and the murder of any civilians"but they NEVER do this. Ever. They are relying on a deception to advance their agenda - which is your submission to Islam and you living under Sharia.
More details about kitman and the other *obligatory* forms of lying in Islam:
http://www.islam-watch.org/aut... (currently offline as it is under DDoS by pro-Sharia groups)The political ideology called "Islam" is truly evil and deceptive and verifyably false (based on historical evidence). Slashdotters need to educate themselves about it so we can fight for Liberty by discrediting it. Are YOU prepared to fight for Liberty? we have to attack and discredit that ideology, and we can only do that if you understand the enemy.
Pro-Sharia folks always mod be down when I point things like this up. They mistake telling the truth about Islam for some form of "racism". This is crazy. Stop censoring those to tell the truth about Islamic ideology (and who are not condemning the slaves trapped in the evil system, called "Muslims"). Please mod me up so my karma recovers and I can share more and more about the ideology of Islam and its deceptions - there is a whole lot more to tell you guys so you are armed for the ideological battle against Islam (which is an existential struggle between 21st Century Enlightenment Civilization and 7th Century Sharia barbarism).
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Re:No subject
Abu Ghraib was in Iraq, not Afghanistan. What was the torture used on the prisoners in Gitmo, please. Specifics. Looking at the facilities of Gitmo they are vastly better than most of the prisons for US citizens. If I was a prisoner I'd like to go to Gitmo. Furthermore, do you think that the prisoners have any motivation to lie? do you think they also have a religious mandate to lie (please read this for the forms of lying mandated by Islam: http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/139-louis-palme/1095-knowing-four-arabic-words-may-save-our-civilization-from-islamic-takeover.html). So, all I'm doing is asking for *facts* rather than the words of some known lying jihadis. That's not too much to ask, is it?
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Re:so what is porn?
Thank you very much for doing the research Bearhouse. Many simply assume they know what the teachings of Islam are (mistaking it for Judaism or Christianity - when it most certainly is very different) and demonize me. The more research you do, the worse Islam gets as you uncover layer upon layer of lies and deliberate 'taqiyya'.
Those would would defend our liberties against Big Government and Islamism are losing the 'information war' very badly. When even above average intelligence Slashdotters don't know the facts it is worrying. Thankfully you decided to 'check your facts'. If only our politicians, journalists and military would do this.
Here are some alternative news sources for you. I'm not suggesting they are entirely correct on everything, or without their own biases, but they do raise facts that are troubling and not presented by the mainstream media (which is why people are so in the dark as to what is really going on geopolitically):
http://gatesofvienna.net/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.breitbart.com/ [This one is quote biased, but you get facts you don't get elsewhere about the Leftists plan to deconstruct the traditional West]
http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/139-louis-palme/1095-knowing-four-arabic-words-may-save-our-civilization-from-islamic-takeover.html "Knowing Four Arabic Words May Save Our Civilization from Islamic Takeover" [An interesting article that explains some part of why you are being lied to]
I suggest reading them for a week to get a feel for whether they are worthwhile to follow or not (don't read them exclusively though - they need to be compared to other sources too).I also strongly suggest you check the lectures by Stephen Coughlin on Youtube, and also look up the allies of the Islamists with an excellent documentary on 'Cultural Marxism' and how it has permeated Western universities and general culture. You don't have to agree with me, but please do the research so you can see the Matrix that is constructed around us (prison bars only work when they are invisible).
Please note: "Muslims" (who are people) are not the enemies of liberty, it is "Islam" (a political ideology) that is. Just as Free People confronted and defeated National Socialism and Communist Socialism we will also have to defeat the political tyranny of religious socialism (Islam). The longer we leave it to 'get real' about Islam - which means strengthening our enforcement of 21st Century Law and Enlightenment values the harder it will get. I hope it does not come to War - but the Islamists already see the struggle between Enlightenment Civilization and Islamism in those terms.
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Re:tell me again
Actually, I do have a multi-pronged approach consisting of many items. Unfortunately I still think it is necessary for some kinetic action to be taken against those who would never listen (eg. Al Qaeda). Now it turns out that I actually believe that many Muslims are in fact moral and very law abiding. It just turns out that the set of morals and laws that they obey are barbaric 7th Century edicts that doctrine prohibits from evolving or even discussing. The ideological battle to be waged is *far far* more important than the kinetic battle, but both are necessary for victory. At the moment the US is losing, badly, because it has deluded itself into believing political Islam is the same as various personal faiths - yet it most clearly is not.
For the specifics of my suggestions I hope you will consider my post I put here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3651105&cid=43459335Please note that I neither call for deportation nor extermination nor oppression of Muslims (a courtesy that Islamists are unwilling to extend to Kosovar Serbs, Iraqi Assyrians, Kurds scattered around the place, Armenians, Egyptian Copts, Indonesian Christians or Southern Sudanese). Let readers judge whether I am trying to be reasonable or not, while still opposing the evil totalitarianism of Islam and promoting the defense of Englightenment Liberties for all.
If you are interested in various aspects of Islamic Law (eg, how the OIC are using the UN to promote evil Sharia worldwide) or how jihad is not in any way an "extremist" Muslim doctrine (as the political left, leftist media, and Islamic apologists continually lie to you about) in the sense that it is, in fact, a *core and mainstream* Islamic doctrine. When an Islamicist says they "condemn terrorism" it never means they condemn jihad. They are condemning "illegal warfare", which in Sharia means those who oppose jihad. This is an example of the Islamic doctrine of lying called "tawriya". Citations for your enlightenment and pleasure:
http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/139-louis-palme/1095-knowing-four-arabic-words-may-save-our-civilization-from-islamic-takeover.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsArto3UVT0 "Stephen Coughlin, Part 2: Understanding the War on Terror Through Islamic Law"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkAZUvQAzkc "Stephen Coughlin, Part 5: The Role of the OIC in Enforcing Islamic Law "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t98WRrOPj2s "Stephen Coughlin, Part 3: Abrogation & the 'Milestones' Process"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y " Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret, by Dr Bill Warner"So, fellow Slashdotters, please let me cue you in. When the inevitable TV appearances have Muslims condemning terrorism there will be some genuine condolences (those that are good human beings, but bad Muslims) but more than a few will be practicing "tawriya" - saying something with the knowledge that you will interpret it in one way, while they view it as the complete opposite due to the different interpretation under (evil !!!) Sharia.
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Re:The distasteful word.
Given the stated motivation of the perpetrators would "cyber-jihadi" be more accurate?
It shows clearly what is motivating the attackers (a desire to impose Sharia on the web - no criticism of Islam allowed, even if completely true) and it excludes those who merely are using the internet in a way the Government doesn't like (since they are not jihadis).
Note: The movie "Innocence of Muslims" is mostly factually correct - according to *Islamic* scriptures. It may have shitty production values, but it does describe Mohammed's actions accurately according to Islamic Scripture. Here's a fact check of the Innocence of Muslims movie:
http://www.pi-news.org/2012/09/fact-check-the-innocence-of-the-muslims/
Now you know that the movie is not slanderous, but accurate, aren't you disgusted that Hillary Clinton and the Obama Administration used it as an excuse to cover the attack in Benghazi and hide their gunrunning to Islamic groups? (Anyone who votes for the incompetent and duplicitous Hilliary in 2016 is insane!).Unlike most Western laws, Sharia defines "slander" is anything a Muslim doesn't want you to hear - even if completely true (actually, especially if it is *true*). Islamists do not want the West to understand the scriptures of Islam and the life of Mohammed - they want to present a whitewashed version instead because the reality of Islamic doctrine would offend Western sensibilities. That's why there are so many Islamist apologists going around using 'taqiyya' and the even more insidious 'tawriya'. Here is a citation for the meaning of these words:
http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/139-louis-palme/1095-knowing-four-arabic-words-may-save-our-civilization-from-islamic-takeover.htmlThe actions of cyber jihadis is not often only to do vandalism but it is in-fact to provoke the reaction you predict from politicians, who will criminalize broad swathes of internet activity under 'terrorism' laws. This reaction serves the goal of Sharia by eliminating Free Speech criticism of Islam. It is the same way that Hilliary Clinton stupidly was manipulated into supporting UN Resolution 16/18 which also supports Sharia and attacks Free Speech. Please also see Stephen Coughlin's excellent analysis of the manipulation of the West at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkAZUvQAzkc
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Re:Too busy teaching Islam in US schools
I think it is quite obvious that all three of these religions have different prophets and theories about the one true God, but it is hard to deny that they all share the exact same one true God.
One one level you are true, on another your statement is not true. The Muslims will talk about the "God of Abraham". This is intended to give Christians and Jews warm fuzzies and hoping some of them will jump on the "bridge between faiths" (which only goes one way, you will notice). So, at first glance your statement seems true. However, one more learned in the Qur'an will understand that they also consider the Christian Trinitarian God to be a heresy that does not describe Allah. Hence they consider Christians as heretics worshiping a false god. The false god cannot be the same as the true god, so Muslims believe (and are in fact taught) that the Christians do not worship the same god. Although strangely, Moses and Jesus were Muslims (it's bad enough when countries claim rockstars, but claiming prophets is going a bit far
:) ).However, despite claiming the "God of Abraham" the Muslims then proceed to lay out and even more evil deity that has attributes that are against attributes defined by Abraham/Judaism. Just because a claim is made does not make the claim true, claiming Allah is YHWH does not make it true. Similarly, "calling SplashMyBandit a bigot because calls Islam evil does not make the claim of bigotry true" [or even sensible, given the formal definition of what constitutes bigotry].
Consider the which starts the prayer said five times a day by Muslims, Sura. So what seems a relatively innocuous phrase is dissing both Jews and Christians - five times a day. All this is explained for you in depth, here:
http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/139-louis-palme/1082-behind-the-muslim-prayers.html
My point is that Islam conforms to Shrek's definition of an ogre. It has layers. Unfortunately the layers do not get nicer the more and more you peel back. Underneath the grandiose facade of Islam is a basement with a terrible stink. Most people know the stink instinctively but don't know or care to open the door to find out why. Once you open the door you understand where the stink is coming from - the evil ideology that has already claimed 270 million lives and would gladly claim the life of every single living thing on this planet if it was thought to please Allah. Regrettably, there are people already working toward making exactly that happen (I'm looking at you Iran, who have within the last week launched and even more evil and inhuman wave of oppression - for those that have been taking notes).Still think Allah is the same as God and YHWH/Elohim/HaShem/Melech HaOlam? Check these out:
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/58626
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/god.htmIn fact, the more you delve into it you will find that the characteristics that Islam attributes to their deity are almost exactly opposite to the characteristics of the God of Abraham. However, the God of Islam prides himself as the "greatest deceiver" numerous times in the Qur'an - so it is no surprise that he would produce the deceit that he was the same as the God of Abraham. The reality is that the attributes of both (fictional) deities are different. Therefore, logic dictates that the deities are different. ISLAM MAY CLAIM TO HAVE THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, BUT THEIR SCRIPTURE DEFINES A DIFFERENT BEING (a deceptive anti-God, if you will).
So you see, one can read the Qur'an but there are layers there. It is something else to understand what the words are trying to convey. Like I said, Osama bin Laden agrees on the meaning of Islam with Al Azhar (as you know, the foremost authority for Sunnis) and the Muslim Brotherhood etc etc. They
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Re:U.S. is established on religion, so
That is exactly what I am saying: they do not mix. They do not mix in reality and they do not mix in mind. They are separate, they are for different things.
As soon as you realized that scientific approach is applicable only to part of what we experience, you will accept the logic of what I am saying.
How come an omniscient god be so IGNORANT about science? http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Muslims-Science-in-the-Quran-Fantasy.htm What's the rational explanation?
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a supposedscientist believing in the crappy quran?
Give me one the most "impressive" and "obvious" "absurdity" from that list and we will talk on one item, because I do not have time to discuss all the points.
How about starting with these:
15:19 "And the earth - We have spread it and cast therein firmly set mountains and caused to grow therein [something] of every well-balanced thing." The earth is flat? How can a omniscient allah ignore that earth is spherical? same in 50:7
21:33 "And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all [heavenly bodies] in an orbit are swimming."? The sun & moon orbiting the earth?
In concordance, then we get 27:61 "Is He [not best] who made the earth a stable ground and placed within it rivers and made for it firmly set mountains and placed between the two seas a barrier? Is there a deity with Allah ? [No], but most of them do not know." Earth doesn't move?
Here is MORE MATERIAL http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Muslims-Science-in-the-Quran-Fantasy.htm
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Taco needs one too!
Basically, the pig pedophile "prophet" Mohammad didn't want anybody to make pictures of him to reduce the chances of him being assassinated. Mainly due to his constant ordering of genocide, rape and murder. Thus he made this pronouncement within his pathetic "religion" not for pictures to be made of him. The unthinking morons who follow this idiot still follow this pronouncement, despite it being impossible for the great dogshit Mohammad to be assassinated anymore. People just need to start laughing more at the idiots. There are few things more silly than Islam. And there are few people who are more bone-headed insecurely serious. Mod me up, so the truth can be spoken freely. Despite their terrorist tactics. Lets' try to get a fatwa against CmdrTaco!
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Re:Profit!
Okay let me put it into pieces your mind can actually comprehend.
You claim all religions are the same. Muslims approve raping female prisoners, because they got direct permission for this from their paedophile prophet. In fact, God actually changed his mind explicitly to allow raping captive women, who are kidnapped into slavery by that capture, according to islam (link points to the primary source). more complete secondary source.
You claim "they're all the same". So let's see you pointing out in the new testament (or wherever in the bible) that Christians approve of making sex-slaves out of war captives, and rape those women against their will (hint you want to search exodus, if you're looking looking for a war story involving women, however you're not going to find anything nearly as bad as the above islamic stuff).
So let's have it
... put up or shut up. You claim moral equivalence, I bring up a moral issue, now you provide the equivalent.Is this short enough for you ? Guess we'll know soon enough.
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Re:Traveling while Muslim or Middle Eastern
You must be quite german to react this badly...
Pulling out the Nazi card for no reason is juvenile and irritating.
I am not informed well enough to discuss this matter, could you link to some sources of yours?.
Muslims have waged Jihad for nearly one and a half millennia all over the world, though most people are unaware of it because they're too busy apologizing for the Crusades. Islam Watch, a site run by former Muslims, has a collection of articles on the history of Jihad.
I don't know so many muslims but i probably know more of them than you must have ever seen in your life to act in such an xenophobic way... but please enlighten me, link to information about jihad adhering currents and non adherents.
There's over a billion Muslims in the world. The amount of Muslims you know is not even a drop in the sea. What exactly does it matter that you know a few Muslims? It's hilarious that if I, for example, cite a statistic that says 500,000 Muslims in country X support Jihad, people say that I'm generalizing based on just a few people. Yet when these same people want to prove that the Vast Majority of Muslims are peaceful, they tell me that they know a Muslim at work and he's a really cool guy.
Also, I'm not xenophobic. Why would you even accuse me of xenophobia?I totally agree on that... Also note that this regime is backed and supported by the defenders of freedom, the USA! (That was a very tempting one, sorry)
The US has nothing to do with Saudi Arabia's culture.
I do recognize there is a problem with extremists... all over the world and whatever their religion and color and shaving habits.
Not all extremists are equal in numbers, influence and danger.
The fact that Radical Islam gets all the attention doesn't mean you should put all the muslims in the same basket. [It's impossible anyway, they won't fit (joke! don't flame!)]. All germans are not nazis... are they? So stop generalizing, meet people, talk to them.
I never said all Muslims are anything. Why should I meet people and talk to them? Again, there over a billion Muslims in the world.
You're on the Internet, and you presumably use it frequently to find all kinds of information. Why, then, do you not use the Internet to inform yourself of things related to Islam and Muslims? It seems that you don't want to know what's happening outside your immediate surroundings, and you believe personal experiences are the only way to know anything. The Internet enables people to access a virtually unlimited amount of information, as well as read news and personal experiences from others. It's like a hive mind. I have not personally been to some random Muslim controlled territory in Sweden or Britain, but many others have, and their experiences are just as valid as anyone else's. The information available at your disposal is non-existent because you arbitrarily limit it to things that you have personally witnessed, whereas I use the Internet to gain information from all corners of the world. My pool of information is astronomically larger than yours.
That reminds me of something I once called the fallacy of personal experiences. I have noticed that the validity of a personal experience is determined solely by its ideological and moral purity. If a person goes into a Muslim neighborhood and experiences terrible and negative things, he is labelled a xenophobic Nazi racist. His experience contradicts multiculturalist ideology, and it's morally wrong to contradict it. If another person says that he recently met a nice Muslim family, everyone takes that experience as further proof of the fact that the Vast Majority of Muslims are peaceful and decent people.
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Re:Traveling while Muslim or Middle Eastern
You must be quite german to react this badly...
Pulling out the Nazi card for no reason is juvenile and irritating.
I am not informed well enough to discuss this matter, could you link to some sources of yours?.
Muslims have waged Jihad for nearly one and a half millennia all over the world, though most people are unaware of it because they're too busy apologizing for the Crusades. Islam Watch, a site run by former Muslims, has a collection of articles on the history of Jihad.
I don't know so many muslims but i probably know more of them than you must have ever seen in your life to act in such an xenophobic way... but please enlighten me, link to information about jihad adhering currents and non adherents.
There's over a billion Muslims in the world. The amount of Muslims you know is not even a drop in the sea. What exactly does it matter that you know a few Muslims? It's hilarious that if I, for example, cite a statistic that says 500,000 Muslims in country X support Jihad, people say that I'm generalizing based on just a few people. Yet when these same people want to prove that the Vast Majority of Muslims are peaceful, they tell me that they know a Muslim at work and he's a really cool guy.
Also, I'm not xenophobic. Why would you even accuse me of xenophobia?I totally agree on that... Also note that this regime is backed and supported by the defenders of freedom, the USA! (That was a very tempting one, sorry)
The US has nothing to do with Saudi Arabia's culture.
I do recognize there is a problem with extremists... all over the world and whatever their religion and color and shaving habits.
Not all extremists are equal in numbers, influence and danger.
The fact that Radical Islam gets all the attention doesn't mean you should put all the muslims in the same basket. [It's impossible anyway, they won't fit (joke! don't flame!)]. All germans are not nazis... are they? So stop generalizing, meet people, talk to them.
I never said all Muslims are anything. Why should I meet people and talk to them? Again, there over a billion Muslims in the world.
You're on the Internet, and you presumably use it frequently to find all kinds of information. Why, then, do you not use the Internet to inform yourself of things related to Islam and Muslims? It seems that you don't want to know what's happening outside your immediate surroundings, and you believe personal experiences are the only way to know anything. The Internet enables people to access a virtually unlimited amount of information, as well as read news and personal experiences from others. It's like a hive mind. I have not personally been to some random Muslim controlled territory in Sweden or Britain, but many others have, and their experiences are just as valid as anyone else's. The information available at your disposal is non-existent because you arbitrarily limit it to things that you have personally witnessed, whereas I use the Internet to gain information from all corners of the world. My pool of information is astronomically larger than yours.
That reminds me of something I once called the fallacy of personal experiences. I have noticed that the validity of a personal experience is determined solely by its ideological and moral purity. If a person goes into a Muslim neighborhood and experiences terrible and negative things, he is labelled a xenophobic Nazi racist. His experience contradicts multiculturalist ideology, and it's morally wrong to contradict it. If another person says that he recently met a nice Muslim family, everyone takes that experience as further proof of the fact that the Vast Majority of Muslims are peaceful and decent people.
Also, a single personal experience describes a -
Teddy Bear MuhammadOf course we should remember about Teddy Bear Muhammad:
http://www.teddybearmuhammad.com/
Some other web-pages:
- http://thereligionofpeace.com/
- http://www.jihadwatch.org/
- http://www.islam-watch.org/
- http://www.faithfreedom.org/
- http://frontpagemagazine.com/
- http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/
- http://counterterrorismblog.org/
Check this book for Muslims - very informative about how some Muslims see future of this planet:
http://www.youngmuslims.ca/online_library/books/to_be_a_muslim/index.htm
Have nice reading.
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I don't care anymore
I just can't give a femtoshit about being nice nice to Islam or its followers anymore. I tried to see them as just a religion with a few extremsists like they claimed, but if you REALLY look hard, well... you either see it or not, and no words of mine will ever change anyone's opinion on such a volatile topic. I just have been given no reason to shed even a single water molecule tear when anything Islamic is criticized.
Maybe the words of former Muslims, people who lived and breathed it and fled, will have more effect.
http://www.islam-watch.org/