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If you install Debian using PPP, you won't need more than 2 disks. Indeed, you would need the additional disks w/drivers in order to get your network card (if it wasn't a 'standard' card like a cheap NE2000 clone).

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In order to care about the future of our species, we first have to respect ourselves. I don't think we have reached a sufficient level of self-respect with each other yet to make space exploration a good thing "for the species". Do you think it is fair to let people starve while 5 billion dollar space ships are being built?

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The install procedure is very well documented. All you got to do is RTFM at http://www.debian.org. After reading, you'll discover all you need is 2 disks (the boot disk and the root disk), and from that point, you can select your cdrom as the source for the packages and begin installing the best OS I've ever used.

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Wow. _The_ Bruce Perens. :) I have to agree - I've been running unstable for a long time and never had any problem. (many people report major bugs, whenever I see the maintainers/Joey Hess on the Debian Weekly News saying 'warning, this thing is probably going to break', I just wait until the dust settles down. That's what you gotta do: keep an eye open, and lurk around mailing lists if you have some problem with unstable... The price for very updated stuff is very updated bugs :)


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Don't let ads.* get you down. There is a solution :)

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Has anyone wondered what will happen if ad-busting software becomes mainstream? Stuff like www.junkbusters.com?

Is it possible that we could see legislation that made "devices" that would disable web ads illegal? Like an EULA for a web page that specified that turning off ads constituted "circumvention", thereby making an ad proxy an "anti-circumvention device"?

I haven't heard anything to this effect, but I'd sure love to know if anyone in the e-commerce business knows if steps are being taken to fight ad blocking software.

Internet Explorer 5 for Windows will refuse to show many web pages if the banner ad's web site is redirected to localhost. Try it - set ad.doubleclick.net to 127.0.0.1 on a window's box's hosts file, then try to load yahoo. you get a blank page.

Here are some for Unix based Operating Systems. Here is one for Macintosh that still runs in OS 9.

A workaround for the excessive no-cache latency of Deja.com is to use Junkbuster with my patch to the file parsers.c as follows:

• --- parsers.c.new Sun Nov 26 15:11:15 1998
  +++ parsers.c Fri Feb 20 17:40:32 1998
  @@ -27,26 +27,20 @@
  { "from:", 9, client_from },
  { "cookie:", 7, client_send_cookie },
  { "x-forwarded-for:", 16, client_x_forwarded },
  { "pragma:", 7, crumble },
  

Or if you don't follow the diff, just add the pragma line above by hand. Just recompile and install it.

Drugs kill. Spam doesn't.

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Answering y'all: I was wrong and I admit - sorry.

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You're right, I'm a dumbfuck.

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Anything that gets people into space and more people caring about getting to space is a good thing. Really? The fuck how? It isn't making my life better.

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I guess I'm just trying to say that space is the coolest thing out there. Back in the 'good old days' only the biggest and baddest people (USA and USSR) could send people up there.

This has not changed a bit. It's just that, today, we have more rich countries able to launch things in orbit. The money used in this dumb things should/could be used in a more appropriate way, like doing research.

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I agree with you. Also, fungus? In space?

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Well, yes, but people who leave their windows/systems wide open/wide insecure shouldn't be complaining about break-ins.

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Actually, I didn't mean that. I meant that if you regularly message one single address like the debian-user mailing list, you'd have to wait years to send your 50th message, by the way you're describing it. It's just ridiculous, IMHO.

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Great! Than mailing mailing lists like this one would be illegal. Think before posting, would you? Thanks.

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Congratulations, all you have to do now is convince everyone in the world to stop having (legitimate) multiple recipients in their messages.

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I'm Brazilian, and I vote (well, I'd be voting anyway, since you're obligated to vote in Brazil). Unfortunately (or not) I do not live in the USA, so I couldn't vote for some good fella like Nader, or a socialist-sympathetic guy.

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Making him do community services would help society a lot. A big fine is not good enough - where would the money go, anyway? Eh? We all know where. It wouldn't make any difference to the common people, though a couple hundreds of community services would.

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Take a look? I'd be very pissed off if some jerk took a look inside my place. I really would.
Besides, if someone is such a moron to leave his windows open, he deserves a break-in. That's IMHO, so, mods, don't be too mean.

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Thank god, because I think no one should be locked up in jail for seven years, outside of contact with others, just because of spamming. This just wouldn't be fair; I really hate spam, but that is inhuman. If we're going to put people in jail for so long just because they spam, we would have to put people in the death row for robbery. Or some other stupid reason.

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Just keep sending back your junk mail AND get yourself off the direct marketing mailing list.

Go here to be able to create forms with the address already on it. I am not sure how other countries can do it, but I used this site and I get only a few pieces of junk a week now. Also, Junk Busters is good, but the other site is easier to use.

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"Do you hear the Slashdotters sing,

I have to agree with you. I just installed the Google toolbar last night, in fact. I feel the functionality outweighs the potential privacy risk. I use Google constantly and the convenience of having its major functions available to me on the toolbar is just too cool. Besides, I trust Google as a company. They did warn me that I'd be "tracked," and they even explained to me how to use only the "basic features" of the toolbar if I wanted to protect my privacy. Also, given that I use Google as much as I do, I don't mind giving a little something back to them. Hell, I browse the web through the Junkbuster Proxy, and Google is one of the few sites I allow to set cookies on me. The Google guys seem pretty trustworthy, and until I learn otherwise I'm going to just use their toolbar and enjoy it.

I'll patent "source code of humanoid life forms" asap. Your DNA is mine. Muahahah.

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Just to note, you link to Junk Busters with the .org domain. It should be .com

The website you mentioned clearly states:

- We are a for-profit .com, not a non-profit .org

Many people assume that because we don't charge consumers for our services or software that we must be a non-profit, but we're not. We fund our operations from consulting and services to businesses. We choose work that we think benefits both ethical businesses and consumer privacy.

The proper link is http://www.junkbusters.com/

Are the Opera advertisements still displayed and if so, are they accepting the cookies from advertisers even though you have explicitly said that you do not want them?

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There isn't enough therapy ANYWHERE to deal with the author and to comfort people who read this.

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Oh man... This is insane. Where can I find part 1 of this shit? This story is so crazy I need to read the first part of it to better understand why it's so crazy.

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Check this out, its NetBSD's Dreamcast port. "Of course it runs NetBSD".


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Read this. Thank you.

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The guy said Red Hat. I just replied the Red Hat thing.

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On October 26, Sony launched the PlayStation 2 Computer Entertainment System. With a huge demand stemming from the success of the original PlayStation, thousands of gamers and dedicated parents all across America camped outside stores and braved frigid temperatures just for the chance to buy the system at midnight.

Isn't that just crazy? I mean, this is probably totally off-topic, as I am not trying to karma whore here with some freaking technical explanation about something I don't understand anything about, but how come people spend their whole nights out in the cold just that they can buy theirselves a new video game? I mean, think about it, in 10 years you'll feel like those who waited hours to get their ATARI 2600's (no offense, classic gamers, I like it too).


I would also like to say that I think PSX2 is probably cooler than most of the videogames available right now, it's just too bad that it's not being sold in Brazil yet (and won't be for sometime, I guess), and despite the fact that I love the PSX1, they gotta put this thing out in a organized and affordable way before they achieve a huge failure in selling it out (which I think they won't, people will spend their hard-won money on anything).


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I don't see any indication that Caesius intends to start such a search engine. WebQL is just a web crawler.

If someone did, the primary defense would be fair use. Some search engines already display an abstract in the search results. On the other hand, I think eBay won a case against (or bullied into submission) a site that crawled their auctions. U.S. courts don't seem to like deep linking, let alone data extraction. Something about the God-given right to banner ad impressions. Next thing you know, a U.S. Marshall will break down my door because I'm using the Internet Junkbuster proxy. I did post anonymously, right?

I'd recommend giving The Internet Junkbuster a try, for filtering out banners. It does wonders on my 33.6kbps modem at home.

I am thinking of asking them to send copies of their "Do not call policy", which they're obliged to do, without asking them to put me on their "do not call" list. That means AT&T giving free money to the USPO as well as the phone company.

Which means lower local phone charges and lower stamp prices, so everyone wins. ;)
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I have no experience with the AOL browser, but if it allows, like Netscape does, to set a local proxy up, you could get Junkbuster and get on with your life.

I know this doesn't directly address your question, but there are ways of getting around certain "JavaScript" incompatibilities, such as those that Fox TV had a while ago. Junkbuster is a great proxy that besides doing other things like blocking banner ads and unnecessary cookies, lets you change the UserAgent to any string your little heart desires. Add in a little "Mozilla/4.75 [en] (Win98; U)" or whatever your favorite is (that was just pulled randomly out of my access_log) and away you go. This is only a partial fix, however, so I would still recommend getting some sort of high-level person on the phone and reminding them that your business can very easily go elsewhere over a silly little "We only support Mac and Windows" policy.

Sneakemail.com is a more proactive defense for a user fighting spam- used alone or as a backup. Using it on slashdot I've already seen it do its job against (possibly) seven spammers in the last few months. Apparently, a lot of harvesting goes on here, so be sure to mangle, use your junk account, or use something like Sneakemail. Sneakemail also has a link from the above mentioned spamcop, as well as www.cauce.org and junkbusters, which are also good resources.

You think Slashdot would even be here if they didn't get ad revenue?

Possibly. Slashdot could probably get away with selling subscriptions to readers. Shit, they could probably sell karma points. ;-)

Besides, many people here (moreso than typical web users, I would think) filter out the ads anyway, so if the ad company has even the slightest clue, they're not paying much.

First I'd like to suggest that some big motorola customers get together and visit an attorney and have them write up a contract. This contract will state that, in return for purchasing products from a Motorola dealer, the dealer agrees to hold the customer's demographic information confidential, and forbid it to be shared with any third party - specifically name Motorola, but also say any third party.

If the dealer won't sign, ask them if they carry any of Motorola's competitors' products, and buy those instead. Alternatively, shop around for Motorola dealers willing to sign.

Rememeber, your information is your information, and while there may be no law to protect you, if the dealer signs such a contract, then you have civil law to protect you.

When such a contract has been drafted, put it on a web page and distribute the URL widely so that all Motorola customers may benefit.

Secondly, keep in mind that Motorola is a huge company. They have interests around the globe. Interested in buying a Mac? Print out the ZDNet article and bring it with you to the Apple dealer. Tell them you want to look inside the case of the Mac you're considering purchasing. Tell them you'd be happy to make the purchase if the PowerPC chip was manufactured by IBM, but you won't consider purchasing a Mac containing a Motorola brand PowerPC - the chip was jointly designed by Apple, IBM and Motorola and is actually manufactured by IBM and Motorola (multiply sourced). Second sourcing means you as a consumer have a choice.

Also look around you and think about what products you use that are made by Motorola. Do you do MacOS, BeOS, or QNX development? How about embedded or game consoles? Perhaps then you use Metrowerks Codewarrior for your development system (compiles for Windows too - I vastly prefer it to Visual C++ or Borland). Metrowerks is now a Motorola subsidiary. If so, drop a line to any contacts you may have at Metrowerks, give the URL to the ZDNet article, and ask them to let the folks they know at Motorola that this practice is unacceptible.

Do you actually design embedded hardware? Consider alternatives to Motorola products - again, IBM has some altnernatives - and let your rep at Motorola know that you're not going to be needing his services anymore - and tell him why.

Some links for you:

• The Electronic Privacy Information Center
• The Center for Democracy and Technology
• The Electronic Frontier Foundation
• JunkBusters

Go to the Junkbusters website and print off their anti-telemarketing script. Keep it by your phone and use it when these pests call you. I've reduced my telemarketing calls to essentially zero by using this script. It's also gratifying when you start going down the list of questions, because you take control what's going on. Telemarketers suddenly get polite because they're trained to deal with this script and they know that they can get sued under the Telephone Consumer Protection Act if they don't watch what they're doing.

You can be aggressive in trying to personally attack or annoy the telemarketers; the problem with that is that:

• While it may feel cathartic to harass the person calling you, you're merely annoying someone low on the food chain.

  This is a bottom end job, taken by people that have had few better opportunities. They make no decisions, and annoying one of them merely annoys one of them.

• You can make one other person's day worse by hurling abuse their way, but this will have no effect on how often you get called. There are thousands of them, and they don't all talk to one another.
• Did I mention already that abusing them does nothing to get you off the lists?

I instead suggest looking to JunkBusters.com. These are the same people that produce the beloved Junkbuster "web proxy" that can block cookies and evil ad banners for you.

Notably see JUNKBUSTERS Telemarketing Headlines, subtitled How to reduce the number of junk phone calls you get.

• They suggest sending your info to the Direct Marketing Association indicating you don't want calls from member companies. I remain skeptical of this...
• They document the "formula" for requesting that You be put onto the caller's "do not call" list.

  I use this regularly, and it did the trick with MCI.

• They further have a Anti-Telemarketing Script that I've not used in detail, but which has good material as straight responses.
• They even have info on the U.S. Laws on Telemarketing

I still get an irritating number of calls from the companies I already do business with, mostly the credit card cretins; the LD Provider calls significantly diminished when I started at least partially following the "JunkBuster Script."

(Horrors! That sounds terrifyingly close to "chain letter" systems!)

You can be aggressive in trying to personally attack or annoy the telemarketers; the problem with that is that:

• While it may feel cathartic to harass the person calling you, you're merely annoying someone low on the food chain.

  This is a bottom end job, taken by people that have had few better opportunities. They make no decisions, and annoying one of them merely annoys one of them.

• You can make one other person's day worse by hurling abuse their way, but this will have no effect on how often you get called. There are thousands of them, and they don't all talk to one another.
• Did I mention already that abusing them does nothing to get you off the lists?

I instead suggest looking to JunkBusters.com. These are the same people that produce the beloved Junkbuster "web proxy" that can block cookies and evil ad banners for you.

Notably see JUNKBUSTERS Telemarketing Headlines, subtitled How to reduce the number of junk phone calls you get.

• They suggest sending your info to the Direct Marketing Association indicating you don't want calls from member companies. I remain skeptical of this...
• They document the "formula" for requesting that You be put onto the caller's "do not call" list.

  I use this regularly, and it did the trick with MCI.

• They further have a Anti-Telemarketing Script that I've not used in detail, but which has good material as straight responses.
• They even have info on the U.S. Laws on Telemarketing

I still get an irritating number of calls from the companies I already do business with, mostly the credit card cretins; the LD Provider calls significantly diminished when I started at least partially following the "JunkBuster Script."

(Horrors! That sounds terrifyingly close to "chain letter" systems!)

You can be aggressive in trying to personally attack or annoy the telemarketers; the problem with that is that:

• While it may feel cathartic to harass the person calling you, you're merely annoying someone low on the food chain.

  This is a bottom end job, taken by people that have had few better opportunities. They make no decisions, and annoying one of them merely annoys one of them.

• You can make one other person's day worse by hurling abuse their way, but this will have no effect on how often you get called. There are thousands of them, and they don't all talk to one another.
• Did I mention already that abusing them does nothing to get you off the lists?

I instead suggest looking to JunkBusters.com. These are the same people that produce the beloved Junkbuster "web proxy" that can block cookies and evil ad banners for you.

Notably see JUNKBUSTERS Telemarketing Headlines, subtitled How to reduce the number of junk phone calls you get.

• They suggest sending your info to the Direct Marketing Association indicating you don't want calls from member companies. I remain skeptical of this...
• They document the "formula" for requesting that You be put onto the caller's "do not call" list.

  I use this regularly, and it did the trick with MCI.

• They further have a Anti-Telemarketing Script that I've not used in detail, but which has good material as straight responses.
• They even have info on the U.S. Laws on Telemarketing

I still get an irritating number of calls from the companies I already do business with, mostly the credit card cretins; the LD Provider calls significantly diminished when I started at least partially following the "JunkBuster Script."

(Horrors! That sounds terrifyingly close to "chain letter" systems!)

You can be aggressive in trying to personally attack or annoy the telemarketers; the problem with that is that:

• While it may feel cathartic to harass the person calling you, you're merely annoying someone low on the food chain.

  This is a bottom end job, taken by people that have had few better opportunities. They make no decisions, and annoying one of them merely annoys one of them.

• You can make one other person's day worse by hurling abuse their way, but this will have no effect on how often you get called. There are thousands of them, and they don't all talk to one another.
• Did I mention already that abusing them does nothing to get you off the lists?

I instead suggest looking to JunkBusters.com. These are the same people that produce the beloved Junkbuster "web proxy" that can block cookies and evil ad banners for you.

Notably see JUNKBUSTERS Telemarketing Headlines, subtitled How to reduce the number of junk phone calls you get.

• They suggest sending your info to the Direct Marketing Association indicating you don't want calls from member companies. I remain skeptical of this...
• They document the "formula" for requesting that You be put onto the caller's "do not call" list.

  I use this regularly, and it did the trick with MCI.

• They further have a Anti-Telemarketing Script that I've not used in detail, but which has good material as straight responses.
• They even have info on the U.S. Laws on Telemarketing

I still get an irritating number of calls from the companies I already do business with, mostly the credit card cretins; the LD Provider calls significantly diminished when I started at least partially following the "JunkBuster Script."

(Horrors! That sounds terrifyingly close to "chain letter" systems!)

For a very good resource on this issue check: http://www.junkbusters.com/ht/ en/ telemarketing.html

Here: http://www.junkbusters.com/ht/en/sc rip t.html

'Course, DoubleClick can be fooled by having cookies disabled, a JunkBuster proxy, or whatever, but I'd imagine at this point only a tiny percentage of users are sufficiently clued to use JunkBuster or Cookie Pal. Certainly too few to make the count less accurate than sampling.

revenue???
Seriously, I believe for most /.ers it was easier to look in to source then deactivate junkbuster/webwasher, whatever.