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that's already taken.
"Koala" is the name of the Java binding for KDE.
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Re:Will testing fixTry compiling your own kde. I think you'll find a great improvement in speed.
There is a brand-new Control Center ui in the works, by the way, as you can see here. There are screenshots. Based on your post, I think you'll like this new interface much better.
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The Quality Team is not a QA project
I am the one who is currently putting the most effort into the KDE Quality Team implementation, so I am qualified to speak for the project:
Let's start by making something clear:
The main idea is not to build a QA project inside KDE. The main idea is to support and embrace new contributors with any background, and help to organize their efforts. For instance: Any doubts about the docbook? We are glad to help. Do you want feedback on your work? We are happy to provide. Looking for guidance? Hop in!We don't want to point what is good for you: we try to present you with a long list of things one can do to help, and organize these efforts.
The recommended approach for non programmers is different from other projects: it is more like the project manager in a company than of a task specialist. In other words think of acting upon the whole of Kontact instead of acting upon the context help for the whole KDE project. We recognize that the main tool for helping an application is knowing it well. A quick look at the activities list, presenting the requirements for performing the tasks, is sufficient to prove that.
http://quality.kde.org/develop/modules/
Yes, the activities include QA. But this is just one of the activities. Hope this helps to avoid confusion with GNOME's bugsquad (also nice, but not related: it is a different concept).
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Re:I seriously doubt this will change anything
Wow, that has been standardized in KDE since September 23, 1999
:)
It's done directly inside of the code in KDE however.
This is one of the reasons why the KDE style guide is shorter than GNOME's HIG; most of the GUI design aspects of KDE are enforced automatically while in GNOME, it is reliant on the programmer. I have to admit though, the HIG is great for PR :) -
Re:What about USABILITY?There are also efforts:
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Re:Sounds Good
Sort of like the customer comment card at resturants
I think it's a little different. Consider this:
Start subscribing to the KDE Quality Team Mailing List and announce yourself...
If you know what application you want to work with, and what you want to do, check the KDE Quality Team HOWTO for tips and information about the task you want to perform. If you don't know yet, you mask the list for guidance, and read the Quality Team Tasks Page to find out what kind of activity you like best and the requirements to perform this task. Each activity has a different set of requirements. For instance, to be a KDE unstable tester, it is necessary to know how to compile KDE unstable.
First of all, in my [somewhat limited] experience with QA, technical writing, and other non-development tasks, these people in general are not really friendly with mailing lists. That's a first turn off. I think an NNTP server would be a better solution. Second, this is targeted towards developers and extremely advanced users who will read all of the HOWTOs, rules, directions, etc. and memorize them to avoid getting flamed by others. Regular users don't do these things, they just click on pretty buttons.
I'm not saying this is wrong, it's just not for average joes out there. -
Re:Sounds Good
Sort of like the customer comment card at resturants
I think it's a little different. Consider this:
Start subscribing to the KDE Quality Team Mailing List and announce yourself...
If you know what application you want to work with, and what you want to do, check the KDE Quality Team HOWTO for tips and information about the task you want to perform. If you don't know yet, you mask the list for guidance, and read the Quality Team Tasks Page to find out what kind of activity you like best and the requirements to perform this task. Each activity has a different set of requirements. For instance, to be a KDE unstable tester, it is necessary to know how to compile KDE unstable.
First of all, in my [somewhat limited] experience with QA, technical writing, and other non-development tasks, these people in general are not really friendly with mailing lists. That's a first turn off. I think an NNTP server would be a better solution. Second, this is targeted towards developers and extremely advanced users who will read all of the HOWTOs, rules, directions, etc. and memorize them to avoid getting flamed by others. Regular users don't do these things, they just click on pretty buttons.
I'm not saying this is wrong, it's just not for average joes out there. -
Re:Sounds Good
Sort of like the customer comment card at resturants
I think it's a little different. Consider this:
Start subscribing to the KDE Quality Team Mailing List and announce yourself...
If you know what application you want to work with, and what you want to do, check the KDE Quality Team HOWTO for tips and information about the task you want to perform. If you don't know yet, you mask the list for guidance, and read the Quality Team Tasks Page to find out what kind of activity you like best and the requirements to perform this task. Each activity has a different set of requirements. For instance, to be a KDE unstable tester, it is necessary to know how to compile KDE unstable.
First of all, in my [somewhat limited] experience with QA, technical writing, and other non-development tasks, these people in general are not really friendly with mailing lists. That's a first turn off. I think an NNTP server would be a better solution. Second, this is targeted towards developers and extremely advanced users who will read all of the HOWTOs, rules, directions, etc. and memorize them to avoid getting flamed by others. Regular users don't do these things, they just click on pretty buttons.
I'm not saying this is wrong, it's just not for average joes out there. -
Re:Sounds Good
Sort of like the customer comment card at resturants
I think it's a little different. Consider this:
Start subscribing to the KDE Quality Team Mailing List and announce yourself...
If you know what application you want to work with, and what you want to do, check the KDE Quality Team HOWTO for tips and information about the task you want to perform. If you don't know yet, you mask the list for guidance, and read the Quality Team Tasks Page to find out what kind of activity you like best and the requirements to perform this task. Each activity has a different set of requirements. For instance, to be a KDE unstable tester, it is necessary to know how to compile KDE unstable.
First of all, in my [somewhat limited] experience with QA, technical writing, and other non-development tasks, these people in general are not really friendly with mailing lists. That's a first turn off. I think an NNTP server would be a better solution. Second, this is targeted towards developers and extremely advanced users who will read all of the HOWTOs, rules, directions, etc. and memorize them to avoid getting flamed by others. Regular users don't do these things, they just click on pretty buttons.
I'm not saying this is wrong, it's just not for average joes out there. -
Animated on KDE
Some visual effects for The Two Toweres were done with Maya running on KDE (Linux?). Screehshots are here.
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Re:Who modded this up!?!
What version of Mandrake didi he use? What are the exact models of the hardware it didn't detect? USB mice have been supported for ages for example. If you havnet tried Mandrake 9.2 or 10.0 then try again. Windows 95 would probably wouldnt work either, but does that mean that Windows 95 IS TOO HARD?
You may like to also try another distribution. Such as Knoppix. Knoppix has top class hardware support and doesnt need installing.
Windows XP dosent support my hardware, it BSODs when I plug my AGFA easypix camera into my computer, Mandrake pops up a disk on my desktop, and so does all the other Linux distros. My 52 year old mother can't figure out Windows XP, but she loves linux, and she uses it to play her games and online banking!
You may also like to report the non-detected hardware to Mandrake QA.
Here are some more links to back up my claim!
So try and get your Neighbour to try Linux again, tell him that its improving all the time! -
KDE as well, using DCOP
KDE applications use DCOP to script applications. You can access it from various languages, including shell scripts using the dcop command-line application.
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Re:In related news
More than a year old, but still a good guide to interface design.
That isn't a 'good guide' at all! It's barely more than a rant if you can manage to read between the lines.
Here's some useful links to UI design concepts.
I got these from the default installation of Mozilla.
Bookmarks > Mozilla Project > Developer Information > User Interface Design:
Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines
IBM/Ease of Use/Design
Microsoft User Experience and Interface Design Resources
KDE User Interface Guidelines
Since these links come from an older install of Mozilla, some may have changed. -
Re:I've stayed away from KDE...until now.
You can run KDE even with other window manager than KWin, as long as that window manager has decent support for the EWMH (aka NETWM) specification. Which I'm afraid AfterStep or WindowMaker don't.
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Why no MDK rpm?What I can't figure out is why Mandrake hasn't put out a good rpm for this. It seems that almost every other distro has a package on the download page.
I find it interesting that Mandrake that is supposed to be one of the major players that supports KDE doesn't have a package there. Nor can I find it in PLF's (Penguin Liberation Front) packages.
Anyone know what's up with this? .haeger -
KDE 3.2.1
Expect KDE 3.2.1 to be released in two weeks, the changelog is still incomplete but growing till then.
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KDE 3.2.1
Expect KDE 3.2.1 to be released in two weeks, the changelog is still incomplete but growing till then.
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Great...
Wow, that's a nice copy/paste from KDE Dot News...
Anyways, a really nice article. It's absolutely refreshing after the thousand and one "reviews" of KDE we've seen lately ("oh, look that ugly pixel in the right bottom corner"). We need more of these technically-targetted reviews. -
Language bindings
One of the nicer things about KDE is the plethora of language bindings.
There's another pointer to the Ruby bindings - and a place for feedback and such-like - here. -
Re:Flashier subsystem? huh?
Except that with the Composite and Damage extensions in the X server over at freedesktop.org, there are compositing managers out there that store buffers of each window in RAM and then render them to the screen with extra effects (see http://ktown.kde.org/~fredrik/composite/ and http://freedesktop.org/~keithp/screenshots/ for some examples).
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Re:Not to mention...
The little-known DCOP can do the same for KDE. All KDE apps have a DCOP function interface which can be used for remote control from another C++ app, a shell script, a python/perl script, or any other kind of script. For example, I recently saw this perl hack that attatches a Konsole terminal emulator to the top of your screen. It does it all using DCOP.
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Re:My question is....
Though more likely is the fact that their 'itch' is likely internationalization/localization issues which we [dumb Westerners] don't care about.
There are plenty of i18n/l10n projects out there. Gnome, KDE, Mandrake, OpenOffice and Mozilla all have active projects going. The FSF has the Translation Project. Get out there and localize! -
Re:Debian discovers the wheel?
oops, my bad. Since the official release packages of kde.org are packaged for debian woody, I thought it already was _in_ woody.
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Re:Leak a good thing for MS
It's got to be interesting to run over the whole thing with something like valgrind. Not that I'm going to try, nor do I want a copy of their code anywhere near me.
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Re:This may be impolitic, but...
I have always felt that Linux is a nice operating system (for
hobbyists and geeks), but there are some areas where it is seriously lacking, especially when compared to its main competitor, Microsoft Windows.
* File sharing. Windows has long been superior when it comes to making large
amounts of files available to third parties. Even early versions of Windows
automatically detected and made available all directories thanks to the built in
NetBIOS-powered file sharing support. But Microsoft has realized that this
technology is inherently limited and has added even better file sharing support
to its Windows XP operating system. Universal Plug and Play will
make it possible to literally access any file, from any device! I think
universal file sharing support needs to be built into the Linux kernel soon.
* Intelligent agents. With innovations like Clippy, the talking paperclip and Microsoft Bob, Microsoft has always tried to make life easier
for its customers. With Outlook and Outlook Express, Microsoft has built a framework for developers to create even smarter agents. Especially popular agents include "Sircam", which automatically asks the users' friends for advice
on files he is working on and the "Hybris" agent, which is a self-replicating
copy of a humorous take on "Snow-White and the Seven Dwarves" (the real story!).
Microsoft is working on expanding this P2P technology to its web servers. This
project is still in the beta stage, thus the name "Code Red". The next versions
will be called "Code Yellow" and "Code Green".
* Version numbers. Linux has real naming problems. What's the difference
between a 2.4.19 and a 2.2.17 kernel anyway? And what's with those odd and even
numbers? Microsoft has always had clear and sophisticated naming/versioning
policies. For example, Windows 95 was named Windows 95 because it was released in 1995. Windows 98 was released three years later, and so on. Windows XP
brought a whole new "experience" to the user, therefore the name. I suggest that
the next Linux kernel releases be called Linux 03, Linux 04, Linux 04.5 (OSR1),
Linux 04.7B (OSR2 SP4 OEM), Linux 2005 and Linux VD (Valentine's Day edition).
Furthermore, remember how Microsoft named every upcoming version of Windows
after some Egyptian city? Cairo, Chicago and so on. I think that the development
kernels should be named after Spanish cities to celebrate Linux' Spanish
origins. Linux Milano or Linux Rome anyone?
* Multi-User Support. This has always been one of Microsoft's strong sides,
especially in the Windows 95/98 variants, where passwords were completely
unnecessary. Microsoft has made the right decision by not bothering the user
with a distinction between "normal" and "root" users too much -- practice has
shown that average users can be trusted to act responsibly and in full awareness
of the potential consequences of their actions. After all, if your operating
system doesn't trust you, why should you trust it? (To be fair, Linux is making
some progress here with the Lindows distribution, where users are always running as root.)
With Windows XP, Microsoft has again improved multi-user support. Not only
does Windows XP come with a larg -
Re:This may be impolitic, but...
I have always felt that Linux is a nice operating system (for
hobbyists and geeks), but there are some areas where it is seriously lacking, especially when compared to its main competitor, Microsoft Windows.
* File sharing. Windows has long been superior when it comes to making large
amounts of files available to third parties. Even early versions of Windows
automatically detected and made available all directories thanks to the built in
NetBIOS-powered file sharing support. But Microsoft has realized that this
technology is inherently limited and has added even better file sharing support
to its Windows XP operating system. Universal Plug and Play will
make it possible to literally access any file, from any device! I think
universal file sharing support needs to be built into the Linux kernel soon.
* Intelligent agents. With innovations like Clippy, the talking paperclip and Microsoft Bob, Microsoft has always tried to make life easier
for its customers. With Outlook and Outlook Express, Microsoft has built a framework for developers to create even smarter agents. Especially popular agents include "Sircam", which automatically asks the users' friends for advice
on files he is working on and the "Hybris" agent, which is a self-replicating
copy of a humorous take on "Snow-White and the Seven Dwarves" (the real story!).
Microsoft is working on expanding this P2P technology to its web servers. This
project is still in the beta stage, thus the name "Code Red". The next versions
will be called "Code Yellow" and "Code Green".
* Version numbers. Linux has real naming problems. What's the difference
between a 2.4.19 and a 2.2.17 kernel anyway? And what's with those odd and even
numbers? Microsoft has always had clear and sophisticated naming/versioning
policies. For example, Windows 95 was named Windows 95 because it was released in 1995. Windows 98 was released three years later, and so on. Windows XP
brought a whole new "experience" to the user, therefore the name. I suggest that
the next Linux kernel releases be called Linux 03, Linux 04, Linux 04.5 (OSR1),
Linux 04.7B (OSR2 SP4 OEM), Linux 2005 and Linux VD (Valentine's Day edition).
Furthermore, remember how Microsoft named every upcoming version of Windows
after some Egyptian city? Cairo, Chicago and so on. I think that the development
kernels should be named after Spanish cities to celebrate Linux' Spanish
origins. Linux Milano or Linux Rome anyone?
* Multi-User Support. This has always been one of Microsoft's strong sides,
especially in the Windows 95/98 variants, where passwords were completely
unnecessary. Microsoft has made the right decision by not bothering the user
with a distinction between "normal" and "root" users too much -- practice has
shown that average users can be trusted to act responsibly and in full awareness
of the potential consequences of their actions. After all, if your operating
system doesn't trust you, why should you trust it? (To be fair, Linux is making
some progress here with the Lindows distribution, where users are always running as root.)
With Windows XP, Microsoft has again improved multi-user support. Not only
does Windows XP come with a larg -
Re:This may be impolitic, but...
I have always felt that Linux is a nice operating system (for
hobbyists and geeks), but there are some areas where it is seriously lacking, especially when compared to its main competitor, Microsoft Windows.
* File sharing. Windows has long been superior when it comes to making large
amounts of files available to third parties. Even early versions of Windows
automatically detected and made available all directories thanks to the built in
NetBIOS-powered file sharing support. But Microsoft has realized that this
technology is inherently limited and has added even better file sharing support
to its Windows XP operating system. Universal Plug and Play will
make it possible to literally access any file, from any device! I think
universal file sharing support needs to be built into the Linux kernel soon.
* Intelligent agents. With innovations like Clippy, the talking paperclip and Microsoft Bob, Microsoft has always tried to make life easier
for its customers. With Outlook and Outlook Express, Microsoft has built a framework for developers to create even smarter agents. Especially popular agents include "Sircam", which automatically asks the users' friends for advice
on files he is working on and the "Hybris" agent, which is a self-replicating
copy of a humorous take on "Snow-White and the Seven Dwarves" (the real story!).
Microsoft is working on expanding this P2P technology to its web servers. This
project is still in the beta stage, thus the name "Code Red". The next versions
will be called "Code Yellow" and "Code Green".
* Version numbers. Linux has real naming problems. What's the difference
between a 2.4.19 and a 2.2.17 kernel anyway? And what's with those odd and even
numbers? Microsoft has always had clear and sophisticated naming/versioning
policies. For example, Windows 95 was named Windows 95 because it was released in 1995. Windows 98 was released three years later, and so on. Windows XP
brought a whole new "experience" to the user, therefore the name. I suggest that
the next Linux kernel releases be called Linux 03, Linux 04, Linux 04.5 (OSR1),
Linux 04.7B (OSR2 SP4 OEM), Linux 2005 and Linux VD (Valentine's Day edition).
Furthermore, remember how Microsoft named every upcoming version of Windows
after some Egyptian city? Cairo, Chicago and so on. I think that the development
kernels should be named after Spanish cities to celebrate Linux' Spanish
origins. Linux Milano or Linux Rome anyone?
* Multi-User Support. This has always been one of Microsoft's strong sides,
especially in the Windows 95/98 variants, where passwords were completely
unnecessary. Microsoft has made the right decision by not bothering the user
with a distinction between "normal" and "root" users too much -- practice has
shown that average users can be trusted to act responsibly and in full awareness
of the potential consequences of their actions. After all, if your operating
system doesn't trust you, why should you trust it? (To be fair, Linux is making
some progress here with the Lindows distribution, where users are always running as root.)
With Windows XP, Microsoft has again improved multi-user support. Not only
does Windows XP come with a larg -
Re:LGPLIf you don't like the LGPL you are in a little trouble because all the KDE core libraries are licenced under the LGPL KDE Licencing policy as well. You will find that no KDE library can be anything tighter than LGPL and many of them are far looser
It is QT that is duel licenced under GPL and QPL but that is not part of the KDE project and they are connected very little except of one depending on the other.
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Re:yup...
Scrollbars are easy to recognize no matter what color they are.
As far as I can tell, the overwhelming majority of people who try and change scrollbar colours do so to make them blend in with the colour scheme used on their website. This usually makes them far less obvious.
They are always in exactly the same place
No they aren't. Scrollbars can appear in frames, iframes, <object> elements, textarea fields and elements with overflow: scroll set. It's very easy to miss them in a large number of cases, even if you are an experienced surfer.
In any case, anybody who dislikes this misfeature should vote for the bug.
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Re:Basic GUI guidelines ignored :-(
Oh, I see. That makes more sense. Don't forget that KDE has guidelines, too, some of which are supported automatically by the API, rather than manually by the developer.
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Re:Millions switch to Linux: Not likely soon.
This is one huge step towards having what these people want, IMO. You can even have OpenOffice with the Plastik style of KDE 3.2. A great office suite, and a great desktop environment, merged. And they've even managed to the the look and feel of the two products integrated more closely than MS has with Office XP and Windows XP
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I won't be buying any stock...
Why would anyone pay for a browser when there are perfectly good (better in my opinion) browsers out there? I'm talking about This one, this one, and this one not this one. Mozilla rocks!!! Seriously someone give me a good reason to pay $30 for a browser, even if it is "the fastest browser on earth, that's not worth $30 to me...
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Re:Bad Platforms Make For Good Business
I have always felt that Linux is a nice operating system (for hobbyists and geeks), but there are some areas where it is seriously lacking, especially when compared to its main competitor, Microsoft Windows.
* File sharing. Windows has long been superior when it comes to making large
amounts of files available to third parties. Even early versions of Windows
automatically detected and made available all directories thanks to the built in
NetBIOS-powered file sharing support. But Microsoft has realized that this
technology is inherently limited and has added even better file sharing support
to its Windows XP operating system. Universal Plug and Play will
make it possible to literally access any file, from any device! I think
universal file sharing support needs to be built into the Linux kernel soon.
* Intelligent agents. With innovations like Clippy, the talking paperclip and Microsoft Bob, Microsoft has always tried to make life easier
for its customers. With Outlook and Outlook Express, Microsoft has built a framework for developers to create even smarter agents. Especially popular agents include "Sircam", which automatically asks the users' friends for advice
on files he is working on and the "Hybris" agent, which is a self-replicating
copy of a humorous take on "Snow-White and the Seven Dwarves" (the real story!).
Microsoft is working on expanding this P2P technology to its web servers. This
project is still in the beta stage, thus the name "Code Red". The next versions
will be called "Code Yellow" and "Code Green".
* Version numbers. Linux has real naming problems. What's the difference
between a 2.4.19 and a 2.2.17 kernel anyway? And what's with those odd and even
numbers? Microsoft has always had clear and sophisticated naming/versioning
policies. For example, Windows 95 was named Windows 95 because it was released
in 1995. Windows 98 was released three years later, and so on. Windows XP
brought a whole new "experience" to the user, therefore the name. I suggest that
the next Linux kernel releases be called Linux 03, Linux 04, Linux 04.5 (OSR1),
Linux 04.7B (OSR2 SP4 OEM), Linux 2005 and Linux VD (Valentine's Day edition).
Furthermore, remember how Microsoft named every upcoming version of Windows
after some Egyptian city? Cairo, Chicago and so on. I think that the development
kernels should be named after Spanish cities to celebrate Linux' Spanish
origins. Linux Milano or Linux Rome anyone?
* Multi-User Support. This has always been one of Microsoft's strong sides,
especially in the Windows 95/98 variants, where passwords were completely
unnecessary. Microsoft has made the right decision by not bothering the user
with a distinction between "normal" and "root" users too much -- practice has
shown that average users can be trusted to act responsibly and in full awareness
of the potential consequences of their actions. After all, if your operating
system doesn't trust you, why should you trust it? (To be fair, Linux is making
some progress here with the Lindows distribution, where users are always running as root.)
With Windows XP, Microsoft has again improved multi-user support. Not only
does Windows XP come with a larg -
Re:Bad Platforms Make For Good Business
I have always felt that Linux is a nice operating system (for hobbyists and geeks), but there are some areas where it is seriously lacking, especially when compared to its main competitor, Microsoft Windows.
* File sharing. Windows has long been superior when it comes to making large
amounts of files available to third parties. Even early versions of Windows
automatically detected and made available all directories thanks to the built in
NetBIOS-powered file sharing support. But Microsoft has realized that this
technology is inherently limited and has added even better file sharing support
to its Windows XP operating system. Universal Plug and Play will
make it possible to literally access any file, from any device! I think
universal file sharing support needs to be built into the Linux kernel soon.
* Intelligent agents. With innovations like Clippy, the talking paperclip and Microsoft Bob, Microsoft has always tried to make life easier
for its customers. With Outlook and Outlook Express, Microsoft has built a framework for developers to create even smarter agents. Especially popular agents include "Sircam", which automatically asks the users' friends for advice
on files he is working on and the "Hybris" agent, which is a self-replicating
copy of a humorous take on "Snow-White and the Seven Dwarves" (the real story!).
Microsoft is working on expanding this P2P technology to its web servers. This
project is still in the beta stage, thus the name "Code Red". The next versions
will be called "Code Yellow" and "Code Green".
* Version numbers. Linux has real naming problems. What's the difference
between a 2.4.19 and a 2.2.17 kernel anyway? And what's with those odd and even
numbers? Microsoft has always had clear and sophisticated naming/versioning
policies. For example, Windows 95 was named Windows 95 because it was released
in 1995. Windows 98 was released three years later, and so on. Windows XP
brought a whole new "experience" to the user, therefore the name. I suggest that
the next Linux kernel releases be called Linux 03, Linux 04, Linux 04.5 (OSR1),
Linux 04.7B (OSR2 SP4 OEM), Linux 2005 and Linux VD (Valentine's Day edition).
Furthermore, remember how Microsoft named every upcoming version of Windows
after some Egyptian city? Cairo, Chicago and so on. I think that the development
kernels should be named after Spanish cities to celebrate Linux' Spanish
origins. Linux Milano or Linux Rome anyone?
* Multi-User Support. This has always been one of Microsoft's strong sides,
especially in the Windows 95/98 variants, where passwords were completely
unnecessary. Microsoft has made the right decision by not bothering the user
with a distinction between "normal" and "root" users too much -- practice has
shown that average users can be trusted to act responsibly and in full awareness
of the potential consequences of their actions. After all, if your operating
system doesn't trust you, why should you trust it? (To be fair, Linux is making
some progress here with the Lindows distribution, where users are always running as root.)
With Windows XP, Microsoft has again improved multi-user support. Not only
does Windows XP come with a larg -
Re:Bad Platforms Make For Good Business
I have always felt that Linux is a nice operating system (for hobbyists and geeks), but there are some areas where it is seriously lacking, especially when compared to its main competitor, Microsoft Windows.
* File sharing. Windows has long been superior when it comes to making large
amounts of files available to third parties. Even early versions of Windows
automatically detected and made available all directories thanks to the built in
NetBIOS-powered file sharing support. But Microsoft has realized that this
technology is inherently limited and has added even better file sharing support
to its Windows XP operating system. Universal Plug and Play will
make it possible to literally access any file, from any device! I think
universal file sharing support needs to be built into the Linux kernel soon.
* Intelligent agents. With innovations like Clippy, the talking paperclip and Microsoft Bob, Microsoft has always tried to make life easier
for its customers. With Outlook and Outlook Express, Microsoft has built a framework for developers to create even smarter agents. Especially popular agents include "Sircam", which automatically asks the users' friends for advice
on files he is working on and the "Hybris" agent, which is a self-replicating
copy of a humorous take on "Snow-White and the Seven Dwarves" (the real story!).
Microsoft is working on expanding this P2P technology to its web servers. This
project is still in the beta stage, thus the name "Code Red". The next versions
will be called "Code Yellow" and "Code Green".
* Version numbers. Linux has real naming problems. What's the difference
between a 2.4.19 and a 2.2.17 kernel anyway? And what's with those odd and even
numbers? Microsoft has always had clear and sophisticated naming/versioning
policies. For example, Windows 95 was named Windows 95 because it was released
in 1995. Windows 98 was released three years later, and so on. Windows XP
brought a whole new "experience" to the user, therefore the name. I suggest that
the next Linux kernel releases be called Linux 03, Linux 04, Linux 04.5 (OSR1),
Linux 04.7B (OSR2 SP4 OEM), Linux 2005 and Linux VD (Valentine's Day edition).
Furthermore, remember how Microsoft named every upcoming version of Windows
after some Egyptian city? Cairo, Chicago and so on. I think that the development
kernels should be named after Spanish cities to celebrate Linux' Spanish
origins. Linux Milano or Linux Rome anyone?
* Multi-User Support. This has always been one of Microsoft's strong sides,
especially in the Windows 95/98 variants, where passwords were completely
unnecessary. Microsoft has made the right decision by not bothering the user
with a distinction between "normal" and "root" users too much -- practice has
shown that average users can be trusted to act responsibly and in full awareness
of the potential consequences of their actions. After all, if your operating
system doesn't trust you, why should you trust it? (To be fair, Linux is making
some progress here with the Lindows distribution, where users are always running as root.)
With Windows XP, Microsoft has again improved multi-user support. Not only
does Windows XP come with a larg -
Gnome's Nice Little GUI Perks.
Its called KDE 3.2
No really, its not flamebait. KDE 3.2 was recently released (February 3) and its so much Better than Gnome 2.4 it isn't even funny.
So, I reccomend ALL gnomies to get K'd on this release. This post was typed from Konqueror 3.2 as well, so you know I like it. -
Re:Do it the easy way : Get Manadrake 10-beta2
KDE - no modem applet for single click "connect/disconnect to internet?" like gnome.
What do you call kppp? -
Re:HOW TO REMOVE LINUX AND INSTALL WINDOWS XP
I have always felt that Linux is a nice operating system (for hobbyists and geeks), but there are some areas where it is seriously lacking, especially when compared to its main competitor, Microsoft Windows.
* File sharing. Windows has long been superior when it comes to making large
amounts of files available to third parties. Even early versions of Windows
automatically detected and made available all directories thanks to the built in
NetBIOS-powered file sharing support. But Microsoft has realized that this
technology is inherently limited and has added even better file sharing support
to its Windows XP operating system. Universal Plug and Play will
make it possible to literally access any file, from any device! I think
universal file sharing support needs to be built into the Linux kernel soon.
* Intelligent agents. With innovations like Clippy, the talking paperclip and Microsoft Bob, Microsoft has always tried to make life easier
for its customers. With Outlook and Outlook Express, Microsoft has built a framework for developers to create even smarter agents. Especially popular agents include "Sircam", which automatically asks the users' friends for advice
on files he is working on and the "Hybris" agent, which is a self-replicating
copy of a humorous take on "Snow-White and the Seven Dwarves" (the real story!).
Microsoft is working on expanding this P2P technology to its web servers. This
project is still in the beta stage, thus the name "Code Red". The next versions
will be called "Code Yellow" and "Code Green".
* Version numbers. Linux has real naming problems. What's the difference
between a 2.4.19 and a 2.2.17 kernel anyway? And what's with those odd and even
numbers? Microsoft has always had clear and sophisticated naming/versioning
policies. For example, Windows 95 was named Windows 95 because it was released
in 1995. Windows 98 was released three years later, and so on. Windows XP
brought a whole new "experience" to the user, therefore the name. I suggest that
the next Linux kernel releases be called Linux 03, Linux 04, Linux 04.5 (OSR1),
Linux 04.7B (OSR2 SP4 OEM), Linux 2005 and Linux VD (Valentine's Day edition).
Furthermore, remember how Microsoft named every upcoming version of Windows
after some Egyptian city? Cairo, Chicago and so on. I think that the development
kernels should be named after Spanish cities to celebrate Linux' Spanish
origins. Linux Milano or Linux Rome anyone?
* Multi-User Support. This has always been one of Microsoft's strong sides,
especially in the Windows 95/98 variants, where passwords were completely
unnecessary. Microsoft has made the right decision by not bothering the user
with a distinction between "normal" and "root" users too much -- practice has
shown that average users can be trusted to act responsibly and in full awareness
of the potential consequences of their actions. After all, if your operating
system doesn't trust you, why should you trust it? (To be fair, Linux is making
some progress here with the Lindows distribution, where users are always running as root.)
With Windows XP, Microsoft has again improved multi-user support. Not only
does Windows XP come with a larg -
Re:HOW TO REMOVE LINUX AND INSTALL WINDOWS XP
I have always felt that Linux is a nice operating system (for hobbyists and geeks), but there are some areas where it is seriously lacking, especially when compared to its main competitor, Microsoft Windows.
* File sharing. Windows has long been superior when it comes to making large
amounts of files available to third parties. Even early versions of Windows
automatically detected and made available all directories thanks to the built in
NetBIOS-powered file sharing support. But Microsoft has realized that this
technology is inherently limited and has added even better file sharing support
to its Windows XP operating system. Universal Plug and Play will
make it possible to literally access any file, from any device! I think
universal file sharing support needs to be built into the Linux kernel soon.
* Intelligent agents. With innovations like Clippy, the talking paperclip and Microsoft Bob, Microsoft has always tried to make life easier
for its customers. With Outlook and Outlook Express, Microsoft has built a framework for developers to create even smarter agents. Especially popular agents include "Sircam", which automatically asks the users' friends for advice
on files he is working on and the "Hybris" agent, which is a self-replicating
copy of a humorous take on "Snow-White and the Seven Dwarves" (the real story!).
Microsoft is working on expanding this P2P technology to its web servers. This
project is still in the beta stage, thus the name "Code Red". The next versions
will be called "Code Yellow" and "Code Green".
* Version numbers. Linux has real naming problems. What's the difference
between a 2.4.19 and a 2.2.17 kernel anyway? And what's with those odd and even
numbers? Microsoft has always had clear and sophisticated naming/versioning
policies. For example, Windows 95 was named Windows 95 because it was released
in 1995. Windows 98 was released three years later, and so on. Windows XP
brought a whole new "experience" to the user, therefore the name. I suggest that
the next Linux kernel releases be called Linux 03, Linux 04, Linux 04.5 (OSR1),
Linux 04.7B (OSR2 SP4 OEM), Linux 2005 and Linux VD (Valentine's Day edition).
Furthermore, remember how Microsoft named every upcoming version of Windows
after some Egyptian city? Cairo, Chicago and so on. I think that the development
kernels should be named after Spanish cities to celebrate Linux' Spanish
origins. Linux Milano or Linux Rome anyone?
* Multi-User Support. This has always been one of Microsoft's strong sides,
especially in the Windows 95/98 variants, where passwords were completely
unnecessary. Microsoft has made the right decision by not bothering the user
with a distinction between "normal" and "root" users too much -- practice has
shown that average users can be trusted to act responsibly and in full awareness
of the potential consequences of their actions. After all, if your operating
system doesn't trust you, why should you trust it? (To be fair, Linux is making
some progress here with the Lindows distribution, where users are always running as root.)
With Windows XP, Microsoft has again improved multi-user support. Not only
does Windows XP come with a larg -
Re:HOW TO REMOVE LINUX AND INSTALL WINDOWS XP
I have always felt that Linux is a nice operating system (for hobbyists and geeks), but there are some areas where it is seriously lacking, especially when compared to its main competitor, Microsoft Windows.
* File sharing. Windows has long been superior when it comes to making large
amounts of files available to third parties. Even early versions of Windows
automatically detected and made available all directories thanks to the built in
NetBIOS-powered file sharing support. But Microsoft has realized that this
technology is inherently limited and has added even better file sharing support
to its Windows XP operating system. Universal Plug and Play will
make it possible to literally access any file, from any device! I think
universal file sharing support needs to be built into the Linux kernel soon.
* Intelligent agents. With innovations like Clippy, the talking paperclip and Microsoft Bob, Microsoft has always tried to make life easier
for its customers. With Outlook and Outlook Express, Microsoft has built a framework for developers to create even smarter agents. Especially popular agents include "Sircam", which automatically asks the users' friends for advice
on files he is working on and the "Hybris" agent, which is a self-replicating
copy of a humorous take on "Snow-White and the Seven Dwarves" (the real story!).
Microsoft is working on expanding this P2P technology to its web servers. This
project is still in the beta stage, thus the name "Code Red". The next versions
will be called "Code Yellow" and "Code Green".
* Version numbers. Linux has real naming problems. What's the difference
between a 2.4.19 and a 2.2.17 kernel anyway? And what's with those odd and even
numbers? Microsoft has always had clear and sophisticated naming/versioning
policies. For example, Windows 95 was named Windows 95 because it was released
in 1995. Windows 98 was released three years later, and so on. Windows XP
brought a whole new "experience" to the user, therefore the name. I suggest that
the next Linux kernel releases be called Linux 03, Linux 04, Linux 04.5 (OSR1),
Linux 04.7B (OSR2 SP4 OEM), Linux 2005 and Linux VD (Valentine's Day edition).
Furthermore, remember how Microsoft named every upcoming version of Windows
after some Egyptian city? Cairo, Chicago and so on. I think that the development
kernels should be named after Spanish cities to celebrate Linux' Spanish
origins. Linux Milano or Linux Rome anyone?
* Multi-User Support. This has always been one of Microsoft's strong sides,
especially in the Windows 95/98 variants, where passwords were completely
unnecessary. Microsoft has made the right decision by not bothering the user
with a distinction between "normal" and "root" users too much -- practice has
shown that average users can be trusted to act responsibly and in full awareness
of the potential consequences of their actions. After all, if your operating
system doesn't trust you, why should you trust it? (To be fair, Linux is making
some progress here with the Lindows distribution, where users are always running as root.)
With Windows XP, Microsoft has again improved multi-user support. Not only
does Windows XP come with a larg -
Adventures in building KDE3.2
I'm a relative Linux newbie, but I've managed to build the Linux kernel before, managed to sort out various and sundry RPM dragon-eating-its-own-tail dependencies. *laugh* I didn't know what I was in for when I tried to build KDE3.2 on an ol' Red Hat 7.3 desktop.
Those in the know can imagine how many packages I needed to upgrade
:) Probably on the order of 45, all told, and I think I was getting off lightly. zlib, freetype, fontconfig, libart, the gnu utilities, etc. etc. etc. Even that was fine :)Not wanting to screw up the source code installation, I pulled down a copy of Konstruct to have it download and appropriately build things. I RTFM'd, I set it up, and watched it for the first little while. It was merrily getting files, so I went off to work.
When I came back home, all was not well. It couldn't find qInitImages_designercore(void) in the Qt 3.2 designer compilation. I couldn't resolve that one, even after I figured out the odd directory configuration (and it is odd - trying to locate the source for things libtools was running on). libdesignercore.a (I think that was the file) had the identifier in it, and Google didn't help me out. So I'll avoid the designer for now - I just want to get this compiled! So, out comes the
// comment gun and bye bye to the extern reference in the two problem files.Onward the compile went, just dandy (while I lazily web browsed and mahjongg'd in the background), and then spew out comes a list of errors in the (IIRC) librtld compile and screech goes the compilation. Ages of Googling later (how on earth would I do this without Google?!) I find out that Konstruct will inappropriately build the config.h file in that particular circumstance. My autoconf package had not been the right version for this, so off I upgrade again.
I got a clue from the discussion that it was the config.h and config.h.in that were problematic, so I look into trying to auto-configure things on my ownsome. Reading the man pages for autoheader, it seemed the right man for the job, so I autoheadered the kdetools directory, autoconf and
./configure (it takes a little longer than last time, so I think it's making progress :), then make clean && make. Doesn't make it five seconds before encountering "unparseable tokens" in the config.h file (which looks just utterly fine, on visual inspection).I then came across something on the 'Net which claimed that automake Makefile.cvs was something which could cure cancer, stop SCO in its tracks, and help people out of makefile conundrums. Off I upgrade again
:) - the Makefile.cvs won't have anything to do with my current automake.(It is nice that Linux is pretty good about facilities to make sure that you can be warned about obsolete versions, but I'm startled at how quickly libraries and programs are deprecated.)
automake, true to its word, runs through and sorts out the mess. Takes a goodly long while to recompile things (I was most of the way through kdetools when the error happened in the first place), but I'm happy to be off and running!
Some time else in the middle of all this was another configuration error, complaining that KDE couldn't continue compiling because my 'current version of aRts was too old'. Given that aRts is included in the distribution, that seemed pretty weird, GnoRPM and I resolved just fine. What a truckload of avoidable warnings, though - g++ was having a hissyfit! I thought errors in template files in VisualAge/C++ were mysterious and threatening, but <yoda>no candle to this did they hold</yoda>.
Hours later, it coughs up its lungs again. What's it this time? A g++ internal floating point error (147). Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa! (I was sensible enough not to pull out my own hair
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Re:WowWhat's so difficult to understand on Trolltech's Pricing Page?
You say "costing $3000* for every developer", it's 1550$. You say "10 developers: $30,000", true is $14100. You say "If you want to develop for the Mac, Linux and Windows the amount reaches a staggering $6000 per developer.", true is $3320.
> and every point raised has been addressed.
Let's test it with some random points: Proof for City of Largo switching to (rather than evaluating) GNOME? Or let's pick "Nat Friedman is currently in charge of desktop development at Novell/Ximian/SUSE" - http://dot.kde.org/1076022020/ lists recent SUSE press releases telling the opposite.
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Re:Here's a screenshot
LOL i thought it might raise a few eyebrows. The icon set i am using is called Aqua (surprisingly enough) you can get them here
Aqua Icons Although I cant be certain that is the full set. (you may need to do some hunting if it aint)
The rest of the stuff is just clever configuration. The KDE toolbar can be made transparent, and its easy to add and remove your favorite apps. Yes, that really is the KDE kicker! It doesnt animate quite as sexy as the OSX dock, but it looks good enough for me.
Other than that, Im running on a Athlon 1.4ghz dualie, with gentoo as the distro.
You can always look at themes.kde.org to get idea's download candy etc. Although Im still waiting for someone to do a Panther title bar. -
Re:Oh, please.
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Re:"Microsoft Violates Human Rights in China"You're on Red Hat, right? Red Hat removed the Taiwan flag, precisely, as you say, to sell to China. The Taiwanese flag is in KDE.
The Microsoft accusation is also, nonsensical, BTW.
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Update on Novell/Ximian/SUSE situation
It's only fair since Nat and Miguel started their rumors here to post this. This is big news folks. Apparently SUSE has a much stronger say on the Novell Desktop than what we were led to believe by Miguel and Nat.
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Re:Wooooohoooo!
Not that KDE 3.2 isn't distributed in other formats besides RPMs.
Oh yes, it is. See http://www.kde.org/info/3.2.php.
I've been running Debian binaries for a couple of days now and I'm quite impressed of the increased speed & sugar of the new desktop layout. There has been couple of crashes, though.
Fetch the Debian binaries by adding the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian stable main
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Re:Wooooohoooo!
Not that KDE 3.2 isn't distributed in other formats besides RPMs.
Oh yes, it is. See http://www.kde.org/info/3.2.php.
I've been running Debian binaries for a couple of days now and I'm quite impressed of the increased speed & sugar of the new desktop layout. There has been couple of crashes, though.
Fetch the Debian binaries by adding the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian stable main
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Re:Really? Infamous?
I didn't know you had to win awards to be infamous. Anyway, here you go:
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Re:Really? Infamous?
I didn't know you had to win awards to be infamous. Anyway, here you go: