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Either way, I don't know why this is surprising except for one fact: That it didn't happen much, much sooner. That's what happens when there's no real world consequences for your behavior (or you think you can avoid them).

That's not surprising. It happened before and it will happen again.
EVE has a very rich history of large scale scams, reaching from investment scams like this one to long-planned infiltrations of alliances like the infamous heist by GHSC (who incidentally ripped assets to the tune of 200ish billion ISK off one of the major alliances again just recently).

The only "surprising" and novel bit about this story is that he apparently/supposedly didn't do it for the e-fame or e-gain, but for RMTing the scammed ISK because of real life troubles, which was the reason for his subsequent banning.

If you're interested in some fiction that's not quite so fanboy specific, you might want to check out http://eve.klaki.net/fiction/ which is a collection of stories written by Istvaan Shogaatsu set in the Eve universe. You might remember Istvaan better as the perpetrator of the Eve Heist that was covered in PCGamer as well as here on Slashdot. ( http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ )

Istvaan is also Tom Czerniawski, who has had several stories published in the Eve magazine EON. On the article linked at Massively, there's a picture of the front cover of a story he's written.

/guiding hand social club operative

If you're interested in some fiction that's not quite so fanboy specific, you might want to check out http://eve.klaki.net/fiction/ which is a collection of stories written by Istvaan Shogaatsu set in the Eve universe. You might remember Istvaan better as the perpetrator of the Eve Heist that was covered in PCGamer as well as here on Slashdot. ( http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ )

Istvaan is also Tom Czerniawski, who has had several stories published in the Eve magazine EON. On the article linked at Massively, there's a picture of the front cover of a story he's written.

/guiding hand social club operative

EVE has PvE but they have almost zero relation to the actual gameworld storyline. Yes you can get some decent gear an money out of the PvE but all of the storyline is PvP. But it really wouldn't be difficult at all to blend PvP and PvE in EVE. You already have four factions, each with their own faction space. You already have an NPC faction (Concord) that will hunt and kill certain players based on their security ratings. It would seem a simple thing to make a players security rating vary depending on which faction space they were in. A Gallente in Amarr 0.9 space would be chased down by Concord, even if they had high Concord security ratings when they were in Gallente space. Make it possible for Alliances or large zergs to overthrow the sovereignty of a system and you have a workable blend of PvE and PvP (a system being overthrown would bring in a lot of attention from players in nearby systems) Right now EVE storyline is PvP because instead of NPC factions all the story is between the big alliances. But it's better story than anything that content creators would ever dare put in a game. Read about: The Guiding Hand Social Club.

Sorry man, but any MMORPG that allows exploits like the Guiding Hand Social Club's is incredible. I don't think there's another game out there that allows playing on that level.

Why not hire the GHSC to take BoB down?

http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ (PC Gamer article scans)

Did you know that in this game you can also kill people???? Won't someone think of the children??? If it is legal in the physical world to "kill" someone in the game, then why would it be illegal in the physical world to steal "money" that has no official worth in the physical world? It may be a violation of terms of service punishable by banning, but it certainly doesn't seem like an offense that should be prosecuted by any government in the offline world.

From what little I know, this type of activity seems par for the course in Eve online. I remember reading about an event that occured last year where a group infiltrated another group and basically acted as undercover agents. They got into the highest ranks of the group then killed the CEO, destroyed ships and took over some assets.

Call me crazy, but that sounded pretty cool to me. It sounded much cooler than any scripted or planned event I've heard about in any other online game. So does this latest event. If you have created a game where the players can create such interesting events rather than have to artificially create them, it sounds like you've done something right.

The "Great Scam" was pretty much entirely fictional, an entertaining story written and inspired by a much more simple scam where someone got investments, paid 50% on top back for a while and then ran off with all the money once he got some publicity and massive investments.

Quote from thread: "Haha, oh Nightfreeze. You wonderful "goon", people still think your piece is real."

The stuff about the Ubiqua Seraph "job" is for the most part true, apart from a couple of minor points, such as the article writer overestimating the rarity of Mirial's Apocalypse Navy Issue (about 2 billion worth), the Apocalypse Imperial Issue used to destroy it is indeed a unique item in the game, only two of which still exist, and no more of which will be released according to the devs (estimated value 15-25 billion isk).

GH-SC's Press Release on the EVE forums at the time; http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topi c&threadID=172529

The heist and assassination were extensively covered by PCGamer UK in the september edition and have been all over the news ever since, here's a link to online scans of the article:

http://eve.klaki.net/heist/

I'm pretty sure that'll stand up to being slashdotted ;p

PS. I'm the CEO of GH-SC.

Err reposted, because I'm a dumbass, can previous post be deleted or something ? :/

Here's a topic about the article on the EVE-Online forums; http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topi c&threadID=248136 The "Great Scam" was pretty much entirely fictional, an entertaining story written and inspired by a much more simple scam where someone got investments, paid 50% on top back for a while and then ran off with all the money once he got some publicity and massive investments. Quote from thread: "Haha, oh Nightfreeze. You wonderful "goon", people still think your piece is real." The stuff about the Ubiqua Seraph "job" is for the most part true, apart from a couple of minor points, such as the article writer overestimating the rarity of Mirial's Apocalypse Navy Issue (about 2 billion worth), the Apocalypse Imperial Issue used to destroy it is indeed a unique item in the game, only two of which still exist, and no more of which will be released according to the devs (estimated value 15-25 billion isk). The heist and assassination were extensively covered by PCGamer UK in the september edition and have been all over the news everywhere since, here's a link to online scans of the article: http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ I'm pretty sure that'll stand up to being slashdotted ;p PS. I'm the CEO of GH-SC.

Yeah, fortunately, when Ballmer told Ward "just tell me it is not Google!" he could answer calmly "No, it is not Google".

Now I know why did I saw the BG borg sad

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NO NO NO!!!! The blog article is from 2001. For once Slashdot were right in rejecting. Bruce tried Technocrat in a different form back then, and did shut it down until a few months ago when he reopened it. But I don't think its recent sudden disappeance from the web -- I can't even get its DNS to resolve -- is deliberate on his part. His personal domain, Perens.com, is similarly AWOL, and as that's where the only email address of his I know is, I haven't been able to follow up. Something is going on, but I have no idea what -- domain hijacks?

Is this 100% and have you got any links to an anouncement by Bruce.
http://bre.klaki.net/dagbok/faerslur/978545404.sht ml is the 2001 announcment
of it shutting down so thats fairly out of date

Bias of Slashdot editors is a time-proven fact. Which is okay in the overall scheme of things--it is their website, after all.

Nonetheless, as a service to those with an interest, I offer the following (which the editors chose not to post):

11 May 2005: Bruce Perens, owner of Technocrat.net, a site based on the Slashdot model and running the same open source Slashcode http://www.slashcode.com/, has shut down the site, citing declining readership and lower than expected growth. Sometimes touted as "a more mature Slashdot," the site carried news and discussion on topics ranging from politics to technology, and many involving biological sciences. This blog article http://bre.klaki.net/dagbok/faerslur/978545404.sht ml suggests Perens might be making a mistake shutting down the site because syndication offerings through RSS feeds and other technology obscure the actual number of readers. The article contains more info and a letter to Perens about the shutdown. On a side note, as of this posting Perens' personal website http://www.perens.com/ was inaccessible.

Use tircproxy in transperant mode. I have found it to work better then either the linux or OpenBSD irc modules. As an added advantage you can tie it in with auth/identd to work with IRC servers that require it. I run OpenBSD identd with the -h option to hide users which works quite well.

• I set up an OpenBSD NAT box for a friend of mine, who happens to be an IRC (Undernet) junkie. Most (if not all) of the Undernet servers
• require ident before completing a connection. I would have just forwarded the port 113 if his room-mate didn't want to do the same thing...

  but he did. Dammit.

  That left me searching for something to make IRC work through NAT, and I found the "Transparent IRC Proxy." It (optionally in conjunction with identd) handles ident requests, and returns a proper response based on entries in /var/run. These entries are quite simple -- they're just files named "user-n.n.n.n" and containing just the name to be returned for ident. Easy enough...

  It makes DCC work again, it enables ident to properly identify NAT'd users, and (as long as you find an Undernet server that allows more than one connection per host) it allows two people to be on at the same time. End of problem.

NAT is a necessary evil right now. Hopefully, once IPv6 is in widespread use, ISPs will no longer be as stingy with the address space... and then it'll be a simple function of routing. Until then, I hope this helps.