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http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2211.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2212.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2213.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2214.html

Do you see the pattern here ? The changelog for 2.2.15 will most likely be available at:

http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2215.html

Be patient, have fun :-)

http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2211.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2212.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2213.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2214.html

Do you see the pattern here ? The changelog for 2.2.15 will most likely be available at:

http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2215.html

Be patient, have fun :-)

http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2211.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2212.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2213.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2214.html

Do you see the pattern here ? The changelog for 2.2.15 will most likely be available at:

http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2215.html

Be patient, have fun :-)

http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2211.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2212.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2213.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2214.html

Do you see the pattern here ? The changelog for 2.2.15 will most likely be available at:

http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2215.html

Be patient, have fun :-)

http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2211.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2212.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2213.html
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2214.html

Do you see the pattern here ? The changelog for 2.2.15 will most likely be available at:

http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2215.html

Be patient, have fun :-)

Well, there were 20 prereleases. And Alan's diary did note that he had sent a 2.2.15 to Linus. And there was already a 16pre1 out there. A bit more checking and you wouldn't have had this problem. Oh well, it's fun anyway, right? :)

I am wondering if this book is really necessary. Since Alan Cox and other core kernel developers are working on commenting the kernel themselves I don't really see the usefulness of this book.

Personally I would much rather learn how the kernel works from the actual kernel developers than anyone else. ( I don't know if Mr. Maxwell contributes to the kernel, but I have never heard of him.)

If you want a paper version (which is sometimes better then a computer screen) just write a little script that recursively descends the kernel directory hierarchy and prints each *.h and *.c file.

>Now - the real question is since there is a port of Linux on the StrongARM processor

Indeed. Here is the place to start looking.

There is also a NetBSD port in progress here.

Contrary to popular belief, Microsoft is probably actualy nice to many of its employees.

I know one of my freinds that works there (Microsoft) and he knows the "dirty tricks" MS trends to play with it's enemies, but from my freind: MS is extremely loyal to it's freinds (employees). My freind claims to make 2 times for sys admin work then any other company was willing to pay, and the longer employees work their, the more benifits they receive. Sure, most people look at Microsoft as a "stable" job that is sure to be there for awhile, it isn't as sexy as a "startup pre-ipo Linux company", but if you have a wife and kids, sometimes risk isn't the best thing.

He claims it is a really postive and uplifting place to work in, he says MS does take care of it's employees and maintains loyalies between them.

Sure they make Crappy Software and in that sense, socially non-responsible, but proving a decent to great workplace, in that sense they are socially responsible.

Not that I use or work for MS or anything, just stating information my freind gave me (which probably isn't worth a whole lot of /. :)

... is here.

Note that JFS isn't complete yet. The README says that hard and soft links do not work, you can't *write* to a JFS filesystem, reading is still in progress and it will only work on the Intel architecture due to endian problems. If you want to use a journeling file system now you should probably try ext3

This code is intended to build with gcc 2.7.2 and egcs 1.1.2. Patches for building with gcc 2.95 are merged but less tested than other compilers. Caution is recommended when using gcc 2.95 and feedback is sought.

These posts sicken me. It is a deep seated hatred of women that represents them as immobile sexual objects. They are openly hostile to women.

Just read Telsa Cox's diary page (and here)to see what she thinks about Slashdot.

Naked and Petrified posts are ruining Slashdot.

These posts sicken me. It is a deep seated hatred of women that represents them as immobile sexual objects. They are openly hostile to women.

Just read Telsa Cox's diary page (and here)to see what she thinks about Slashdot.

Naked and Petrified posts are ruining Slashdot.

Rob happens to like the idea of free speech. Toward that end, he has avoided deleting posts as much as possible (though I'm sure some AC here can contradict me here with some unverifiable anecdote). I take as my evidence the sheer quantity of crap strewn about these comment pages. I know if I were Rob, I would be tempted to delete some of the lame troll posts that are clogging his database. But he doesn't, 'cause I can sit here and read them until I lose most of my faith in humanity.

In fact, I've spent the last month reading Slashdot at -1, and I can say that it has been a depressing experience. When moderation first appeared, I set my threshold at 2, then 1. Things were fairly normal. I wondered what things were like at -1 and I finally decided to take a look. My month-long sample has not convinced me that moderation is evil. A few decent AC posts got left in the dust, and few good posts got taken down. But a whole hoard of juvenile graffiti and basic idiocy got labeled as such.

But guess what:

You can still read it!

And finally: please stop repeating the hackneyed complaint about Rob having sold out to The Man. It's just as annoying as every other bit of "Slashdot wisdom" that gets repeated so many times that people forget it orignated from someone's rear end. Rob is human. Rob is lazy. Rob did not receive a brain transplant when Andover bought Slashdot. If you believe Slashdot isn't catering to your (and others who agree with you) need, blame it on Rob being too stupid or too lazy to implement a system that works. Those reasons are a lot more plausible than: "Andover did it!" That's about as dumb as claiming that Doom makes kids shoot each other.

The world is not so simple.

[In defense of Rob's intelligence: USENET, IRC, and Slashdot seem to have shown in three different environments that online discussion tends to degenerate when enough people are put in one place. Two people can have a conversation, a couple hundred can share ideas, but tens of thousands seem to just turn things into a squabbling mess. Solving this problem is hard, and I don't think Rob is an imbecile for not having solved it yet.]

What hardware would I need to load in a movie? WHat hardware would I need to put it back out to a VCR?

I'm not directly familiar with Broadcast, but I have had some pretty good results messing around with Adobe Premiere and Aftereffects. I have an Asus V3800 TNT2 with TV out, and exporting to a VCR via that, was quite simple. As for getting video in, check out http://roadrunner.swansea.linux.org. uk/v4l.shtml which has some pretty good info on linux supported video capture cards, as well as other v4l stuff.

hummer

The release notes for Linux 2.2.14 state:

This code is intended to build with gcc 2.7.2 and egcs 1.1.2. Patches for building with gcc 2.95 are merged but less tested than other compilers. Caution is recommended when using gcc 2.95 and feedback is sought.

It looks like gcc is coming around, maybe it was improving towards the end of the year. The warning I read from these Release notes are not as strong against egcs and gcc 2.95 as the last time I looked.

Have fun !

Usually Alan Cox posts a very detailed and informative changelist on www.linux.org.uk which is much more useful than the stuff you can find on KernelNotes or Cutting Edge .

I believe Alan Cox put together the remnants of a DOS COBOL compiler into a package that would run on Linux (try looking in ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/alan/ Cobol/.

who stood up to IDG on the issue of speaker funding:

Mucho fun on the IDG front. Seems my original diary entry started a small grass fire that then blazed out of controller across slashdot (not that slashdot is exactly known for its ablative properties). Anyway IDG are now paying some speakers on the basis of need. I'm told that some of it is a misunderstanding between their higher and lower echelons. I don't actually care too much if they've learned or just sorted a problem internally. Its now going in the right direction. I know Miguel of Gnome fame now has his funding sorted.

Three words for ya, guys: Alan Cox 3:16.

And what did he do then?

They did offer to pay my travel expenses but since they can only fund some people I figure they should fund others instead. The Bazaar can afford me somehow on their low budget but IDG can't on their not insustantial price per stand budgetting. I don't wish to overtax IDG's budget.

AC's record is stone cold.

Alan Cox mentioned in his diary that a preliminary driver for the scaler on Matrox G200/G400 cards is out there, so we may see some advances in the next few weeks/months.

XFS
Originally made by SGI for their IRIX OS, XFS is one awesome filesystem. Read this white paper (http://www.sgi.com/Technology/xfs -whitepaper.html). This white paper describes all of its cool features. The main features of XFS make it a super scalable, very reliable, ultra fast journalling filesystem utilizing many cool FS technologies like B-trees and other cool stuff.

Unfortunately, it seems that currently there are many problems with the Linux implementation of XFS. I don't know any details of this, but I guess it is safe to say that XFS will some day become available for Linux. This would be great.

ext3fs
I've only read about this in the linux mailing lists. ext3 appears to be a standard ext2fs implementation with journalling data, allowing backward compatibility with ext2, although one of the authors hinted that they may not make it backwards compatible in some later version. It is currently in super early alpha testing and definately not anywhere close to usable, stable and reliable.

In my opinion this project is very new, and holds much promise. From their README, they appear to be done basic journalling code, and what remains to be done is error handling contingencies, metadata only journalling, performance tuning and lots of other coding. As a result, it may take some time but this could hold much promise and give another viable option for a journalling FS for Linux. Choices are always good.

Ext3 Site - ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/sct/f s/jfs/

Reiserfs - http://devlinux.com/namesys/
I've been following reiserfs for a few months now. Its actually been available for quite some time now as a very stable, reliable and quick filesystem for Linux, but it was only recently when journalling was added to the code. Apparently this new addition is supposed to make it faster.

In "releasing" reiserfs, SuSE doesn't mean that it is the first journalling filesystem for Linux. It is the first journalling FS for Linux to be dubbed reliable and suitable for normal use. This is great as journalling has long been a stumbling block for enterprise adoption of Linux. Alan Cox hinted that he may include reiserfs in the standard kernels soon. Excellent =)

Warren Togami
warren@togami.com

The ext3 journaling filesystem has its first beta a few months ago. It does't require you to reformat your existing ext2 partitions to convert to ext3. And an ext3 filesystem can still be used as an ext2 filesystem, you just need to update the journaling information if you go back to ext3 after using it as ext2. Read more about it at Stephen Tweedie's ext3 site.

For those readers with short attention spans, I'll summarize:

TurboLinux has no intention of forking. He says its far too much work.

The userland stuff is probably going to be open-sourced with the next release

Now I'm sure everyone has much more important things to do, like updating their much beloved and witty diary entries *cough* Alan *cough* (oh, and maybe those kernel whatchamadoos...)

Please don't moderate total falsehoods like this up - this is flamebait. Alan Cox, the actual primary code architect of the Linux Kernel, is a Red Hat employee. While RH does often ship a 'tweener' kernel, or one that is in some state of AC's patches, there is nothing at all non-standard about it.

I sense you've missed the point. The Linux 2.2.5-15 kernel that came with RedHat 6.0 is not identical to the stock Linux 2.2.5 kernel. Configuration issues aside, the 2.2.5-15 that shipped with RedHat 6.0 included a handful of other patches as well. This is what makes it a nonstandard kernel. Sure, the patches may be publically available, and sure, they're probably included in an "-ac#" patch, but that doesn't make them part of the mainstream kernel series.

If Pacific Hi-Tech places their clustering patches online for all to download and use, what's the difference? Since it sounds like they're going to try to get Linus to accept them, they've got to be made public anyway. What's the difference if distribution vendor X ships a kernel with H.J. Liu's latest knfsd patches or Pacific Hi Tech's latest clustering patches? Both result in kernels that differ in more than configuration selection from the mainstream kernel.

Just because Alan Cox works for RedHat doesn't mean that RedHat's patches are part of the mainstream kernel. (Same would be true if Transmeta got into the Linux Distrib business and shipped their own tweaked kernel -- despite the fact that Linus works there.) Alan knows and acknowledges that the "-ac" kernels are a sort of feature enhancement mini-fork. (His diary entry for October 21 refers to 2.2.13-ac1 as a feature enhancement addon kit.) To give another concrete example: While the "large FDs" patch was not part of the mainstream kernel, Alan offered it as a separate patch and stated publicly that it's one that many vendors may apply to the kernels they ship, even though it wasn't part of the mainstream kernel. Those patched vendor kernels are non-standard kernels once patched.

There's nothing wrong with shipping a modified kernel, particularly if the modifications are public and can be applied to any kernel. But, such a kernel can hardly be considered standard.

PC hardware is very icky, I agree, but Mac hardware design is hardly saintly. See here for details.

Assuming that The Portaloo uses RSS/RDF to get its headlines they should be able to use many more existing channels (including /.).

Have you seen Alan Cox's Portaloo yet? It provides a reasonably spartan display, and seems to focus on providing information only, rather than glitz.

What's even nicer is that it's open source, and so you can modify it to provide whatever you like. :-)

Have you seen Alan Cox's Portaloo yet? It provides a reasonably spartan display, and seems to focus on providing information only, rather than glitz.

What's even nicer is that it's open source, and so you can modify it to provide whatever you like. :-)

Sigh. When will Slashdot newbies learn to write HTML for clickable links? ;-)

I saw this in the changelog

SCSI Updates

DVD handling
The DVD handling code has been cleaned up.


Can anyone give me a quick "State of the DVD" update for Linux. Reccommend a drive??

Here is the release notes from Alan:
http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2213.html

Enjoy!

For those who want to know what might have been changed, Alan Cox posted the announcement for 2.2.13pre18 with a changelog.
His diary says he sent it to Linus for the official ok.

One thing I would like to see is region independance - both the creative card and the DVD deck I have are region free since I ship DVDs in from the States due the the
1. Crap prices in most UK stores (19ukp seems about average)
2. Dreadful release timetable - we seem to get releases way after video and way way after America gets the DVDs.

Out of insterest is there any legal requirement for these boards to support Macrovision - which I believe is only available as a licensed chipset - and if so is that a global requirement or is it per country?

Well, just to piss you off, I'm glad to report that Alan Cox himself is working on the USB speaker/sound system driver; if there's one thing you can count on, it's that Alan will get it working. So sorry to disappoint you, but Linux will be able to drive those speakers in not too long a time.

• Changelog for 2.2.12
• Alan's 2.0.38 announcement
• Linus' 2.3.15 mail

Actually, there are now release notes written by Alan Cox for every stable kernel release. You can go see the Release notes over where Alan's written them. I rather like this, saves waiting for Myrdraal.

I liked Tessa's comments about the affair.

Hmmm..transparent windows over a Scottish loch with waves gently rippling? No *wonder* he is happy with the speed!

:-)

Ben

I am normally not one to advocate "up"(?)grading just to have the largest available version number, but this isn't a case of something that is "not broken."

" It fixes security holes in the kernel so should seriously be considered as an important update for all Linux 2.2 systems."

Anyone considering not upgrading to this kernel should go read http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2211.html and reconsider.

I looked all over last night for this, but didn't find it until tonight.

Apparently there are some significant SECURITY UPDATES in this one.

Take a look at http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2211.html for details.

" It fixes security holes in the kernel so should seriously be considered as an important update for all Linux 2.2 systems."

Swansea, Wales. Also check out Alan's diary. Not quite as funny though

Alan Cox is supposed to be the official maintainer of the stable series of the kernel.

You can take a look at his web page at http://www.linux.org.uk/diary/ . These pages should contain alot of useful information if you want to use the ac's (tecnically beta releases).

He gets paid by Red Hat, and possibly others, I think.

If you want to know more about the "shadowy" alan cox, just hop over to his website. Be sure to check out the diary, it's fun.

Sure. It's all in Video4Linux or V4L2. The heroic Alan Cox has been hacking on drivers for the open-source LML33 and similar Iomega Buz MJPEG compression cards. This'd allow you to record compressed video to HDD.

MPEG2 has some licensing problems, and the owners are leery about open-source versions of their security measures, but work is progressing.

I don't know about that double-headed HDD one fellow hinted at, but good caching, a quiet HDD and a well-designed custom filesystem may make that unneccessary.

Quantum has a new technology caled QuickView that might be that double-head dealie. Should be fun to write drivers for.

Sure. It's all in Video4Linux or V4L2. The heroic Alan Cox has been hacking on drivers for the open-source LML33 and similar Iomega Buz MJPEG compression cards. This'd allow you to record compressed video to HDD.

MPEG2 has some licensing problems, and the owners are leery about open-source versions of their security measures, but work is progressing.

I don't know about that double-headed HDD one fellow hinted at, but good caching, a quiet HDD and a well-designed custom filesystem may make that unneccessary.

Quantum has a new technology caled QuickView that might be that double-head dealie. Should be fun to write drivers for.

I've read about Sony using a modified gcc with some added targets to compile code for their game machines so it's not that surprising though that free software is taken into the world of embedded system.

Often, when developing an embedded system, you can spend weeks or months just building the first stages of an embedded system that can support some application. If you instead choose to port the Linux kernel or make gcc able to compile native code for the CPU of your choice, they you have already gained several months of development.

Unfortunately, I have been in the situation recently where I have had to deal with Windows CE and I can say for a fact that I didn't very much like the experience. I'd honestly rather spend some time porting gcc so I can compile native code.

How would you feel about readline support on your remote control? Alan Cox recently wrote in his diary that he couldn't believe how Unix vendors can ship ancient shells without cursor control or job control with their systems. Well, I can't believe my stereo remote control still won't let me schedule playlists!

I also recall Alan Cox saying in his diary that Raster's code was spaghetti-like. That might be true or not. I've never seen any of Raster's code. But I know I'd be pissed if a fellow employee wrote that my code was unreadable, and posted it in his .plan or in a public diary for the world to read.

Nick

is avalable at www.linux.org.uk. It talks about the impartiality of the tests, and how companies are starting to go out of their way to criticize Linux.