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Speak out!
Geist has a page dedicated to "The Canadian DMCA: What You Can Do"
here it is:
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2431/125/
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Re:More like "Sigh..."
Please actually read the article that is linked. The French are reporting that apparently the Canadians are considering implementing this policy. That's second hand hearsay at best. And the quote included in the Slashdot article is from whomever made the original post on Techdirt.
Indeed. Michaeil Geist essentially says the same thing.And in any case, the system is far from being implemented in France, given the legalistic headaches involved. And, to further drive a nail into that proposal's coffin, the European Commission issued a directive specifically against such a "three strikes and you're out" policy.
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Comcast and Rogers....
WEe're currently experiencing the same issues up here in Canada. You guys have Comcast, we have Rogers and Bell. Also, I have to argue that Net Neutrality would hamper ISPs....if anything, it would promote MORE freedom do to whatever it is you do on the Net without having to worry about how much money is needed to guarantee that people can actually reliably access your website. In the US, the Gov't is by the people, for the people and of the people....who the hell in the US from the people want to give Telecorps more power? We, in Canada, are dealing with the same shite... http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2463/125/
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Re:Where Else?That said, I believe most EU countries, as well as Australia and recently Canada have laws similar to the DMCA. FYI: A DMCA-like law was proposed in Canada, but it was never ratified. Actually, it is being repeatedly tabled, but has always been struck down. For the time being, Canada doesn't have any DMCA-like legal provisions. (Refer to Michael Geist's blog for more information.)
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Re:email your MP
Yes, Knopf likes classical music and doesn't like pop, but that's a side issue. He mentions it on his blog, but it has nothing to do with the main issues he discusses concerning copyright. As far as copyright goes, he isn't extreme at all. He doesn't propose abolition of copyright or anything really radical. Much of what he does is just point out the facts. The talk that he was going to give is on the same topic as a recent post in which he pointed out various ways in which Canadian copyright law is actually stronger than US copyright law, contrary to the US propaganda. I've seen no substantive response to his points. Indeed, the highly respected Michael Geist recently pointed out that according to the far from radical World Economic Forum, Canada ranks well above the US in its adherence to and enforcement of copyright norms.
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Re:I sometimes feel sorry for the RedHat brand
Michael Geist seems like the logical person to play Bob Loblaw. He even has his own law blog.
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Re:What the hell.
You've completely misread this issue - they're throttling RESELLER lines now. You know, the only 'competing' ISPs who need to buy directly from Bell, who were previously not throttling anything and loudly advertising this fact to compete Bell who was already throttling torrents. And thus Bell is now throttling end-users with whom they have no contract, directly interfering with their competitors' business.
More info on this in Geist's latest post, covering the Canadian ISP Association's filing to the regulatory body.
Not only that, but they're throttling ALL encrypted traffic, albeit apparently only outside business hours, with a very small whitelist with few entries (mainly VoIP.) So VPN, SSH, SFTP are all now throttled as well. So your connections are suffering exactly as much as the next guy's hentai downloads. -
Re:Just before everyone gets excited....
Dr. Geist you say? Right here.
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Re:scapegoatI don't think that anyone ever claimed that movie piracy was set effect box office takings You think wrong.
They've been crying for years that camcorded copies are reducing box-office take.
Seriously, if you're gonna post complete and utter bullshit, you should make sure that it's not to an audience that knows it's complete and utter bullshit. -
Heavy Handed Hypocrisy
This is especially ironic since many of the Olympic Committees sue anyone using the word 'Olympic' or press governments for legislation protecting their precious name. For instance a few link samples:
US: http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15360
CA: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1777/125/
UK: http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/02/06/olympic-tussle-over-a-name/
Given the IOC and each local Olympic committee's approach trademark ownership, they should have no problem removing the game.
This is unlikely because, they will not treat other's work the same as they want theirs enforces. Hypocrisy at its finest. -
Re:No
Proper formating:
1. Nobody is 'taking' anyone's income.
2. Clearly amoral? I'd like to see you argue for that.
3. No, the enemy is copyright law that is completely fucked up, and corporations that have no clue about what their clients want, instead trying to sue them into buying their product.
4. Corporations are already moving away from DRM, and they are futile and useless anyway since hackers can bypass them at will and normal users are encumbered. DRM decreases the perceived value of a product, and increases the perceived value of the pirated copy, the demand curves are shifted accordingly. It makes you wonder if anyone at the big recording companies has actually studied economics.
5. The pirate bay is not one of the bad guys either. They simply point you to material (in your analogy, it's the torrent client that gives the keys, but it doesn't work anyway, because the bank loses money, while the holder of pirated material doesn't.)
PS: You think people who download never have and never will pay artists for their work? http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2347/125/ A government commissioned study finds that people who download music are more likely to buy it.
PS2: hand in your geek license (or punch your astroturf license) on your way out. -
Re:No
1. Nobody is 'taking' anyone's income. 2. Clearly amoral? I'd like to see you argue for that. 3. No, the enemy is copyright law that is completely fucked up, and corporations that have no clue about what their clients want, instead trying to sue them into buying their product. 4. Corporations are already moving away from DRM, and they are futile and useless anyway since hackers can bypass them at will and normal users are encumbered. DRM decreases the perceived value of a product, and increases the perceived value of the pirated copy, the demand curves are shifted accordingly. It makes you wonder if anyone at the big recording companies has actually studied economics. 5. The pirate bay is not one of the bad guys either. They simply point you to material (in your analogy, it's the torrent client that gives the keys, but it doesn't work anyway, because the bank loses money, while the holder of pirated material doesn't.) PS: You think people who download never have and never will pay artists for their work? http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2347/125/ A government commissioned study finds that people who download music are more likely to buy it. PS2: hand in your geek license (or punch your astroturf license) on your way out.
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Re:Throttling encryption
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Re:Been there, done that
Writing to people with counter-points whose minds are already made up seems rather futile no matter how many people tell them they're wrong.
Then democracy is as dead in the UK as it is in the US.Here in Canada, we blocked the "DMCA" thanks in large part to Michael Geist, but it was the 30k+ people who signed up as facebook-friends, and the untold number of people who sent e-mail and snail-mail to Jim Prentice and others that I think really made the final difference.
Unless you Brits are corrupt like the US*, your politicians will change their mind if enough people make their voice heard.
I'm sorry if I offend my friends to the south, but the proper word for "campaign contribution" is bribery and used to be an offence. As long as companies can buy legislation, your votes are worthless.
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Some Canadian ISPs are going a step further
For example, my local cable ISP has marked ALL encrypted traffic as having a lower priority over non-encrypted content in their "war on P2P filesharing" (this means, amongst other obvious drawbacks, downgraded performance using ssh and sftp) reference. I am not sure on the specifics or legality of this kind of "filtering" but it would seem that nobody has made such a big fuss yet up here. Their practice is grey-zone at best I would think and it will be interesting to see what happens with the issue.
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Somewhat old newsThis was reported on December 3rd by Dr. Michael Geist on his blog here. If you're interested in copyright issues in Canada check out his site; he's very informed and an interesting source of information. While the SAC could have taken a stronger stand against DRM, this proposal should (though likely won't) cause the government to rethink its decision to import the DMCA into Canada. Even if you disagree with portions of this proposal, it is great to see Canadian songwriters, musicians, and music labels now singing the same song, promoting ways to make money from P2P rather than engage in failed attempt to stop it.
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Canadians: send this to your MPs
We are facing the same problem.
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Is it a crime?
I've often wondered about that. A lot of people will argue that "conspiracy to commit" == "thoughtcrime", but the fact is you can think about it all you want, it's when you start planning to bomb a building, abduct a politician, kill your boss or whatever that it becomes conspiracy.
In many cases I believe the consequences of "conspiracy" are much the same as committing the actual act. It's not just for nailing those that are plotting act X ahead of time, but for those that were involved with the plot after-the-fact. Can somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that conspiracy is in fact a crime as well, it's just that "conspiracy" is a different form of the crime.
However, it's still a moot point. To my knowledge it's still not (yet) an actual violation of the criminal code to copy music. The only thing that I know of that's a crime at the moment are things like camcording in a theater in Canada (thanks to US lobbiests literally sleeping with Canadian politicians). I wonder if a bunch of kids planning a way to record a movie from a theater would thus guilty of conspiracy. Notwithstanding that camcording a movie is a dumb thing to do anyways, it's kinda sad to see that such a thing can now hold a jail term, and I can guarantee you that the theaters and movie companies are very happy to advertise things like "You won't be able to record a movie when you're in jail" up here in Canada. -
Good and bad?Here's Dr. Michael Geist's take on it:
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2552/125/ While this kills the application of the private copying levy to iPods (subject to a possible appeal by the CPCC), it also means that Canadians who copy music from their CDs to their iPods are not covered by the exception and thus arguably infringe copyright. The issue therefore moves from the Federal Court of Appeal to Industry Minister Jim Prentice who must decide whether he will amend the law by creating a clear, uncompensated exception to format shift (as the United Kingdom has just proposed) or leave millions of Canadians in legal limbo. -
Not withdrawn, delayedAs per Michael Geist's own comment -
I can't say with certainty why the bill has been delayed, nor whether it will be for a day or two, or for longer. I think that this presents an excellent opportunity for Prentice to engage in broader consultation and hold off introducing the bill until 2008.
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Re:the usual
Yeah, well, apparently, Dr. Geist looked carefully at what the Minister said. He also noticed what was in the throne speech. If you read this entry of his http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2295/125/ you'll see where he noticed what was mentioned and what *wasn't* mentioned. Therefore inferring what it contained. Also, in this post of Dr. Geist's from a House of Commons debate http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2321/125/ Again, what was spoken of, and what *wasn't* mentioned. Therefore inferring it. So, as to whether or not he's being fed info from the Minister's office directly? I'd not know that. But we can always hazard a guess.
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Re:the usual
Yeah, well, apparently, Dr. Geist looked carefully at what the Minister said. He also noticed what was in the throne speech. If you read this entry of his http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2295/125/ you'll see where he noticed what was mentioned and what *wasn't* mentioned. Therefore inferring what it contained. Also, in this post of Dr. Geist's from a House of Commons debate http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2321/125/ Again, what was spoken of, and what *wasn't* mentioned. Therefore inferring it. So, as to whether or not he's being fed info from the Minister's office directly? I'd not know that. But we can always hazard a guess.
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Re:Those pesky rights of citizens
Yeah, some citizens tried to ask the Minister some pointed questions today at an Open House at his Calgary office today. Here's the link http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/blogsection/0/125// to Michael Geists blog, the great Canadian who's a Law professor at Uni. of Ottawa, and a champion of "Fair" Copyright for Canada. There are pictures up on the Facebook group as well. But sounds like the Minister was very stand-offish and dismissive of this group. "C'est la vie" or in other words "piss off you stupid idiots who voted for me. Hahaha, we've got the power now, we're not going to listen to you!
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Morality laws
I think the US imperialistic tendencies are seeping out.
Like Britain(India, Ireland), they are convinced that they know better then the rest of the world.
The US is happy legislating its morality. As long as you have the US as the only super power, it truly is the west against everyone else. In the US they arrested and jailed the owners of a 3 day old online-poker law.
The US decided that even Credit Card companies that are making payments to these 'scum of the earth' would be held liable. Even after the WTO slapped them for it. They even tarried the crap out of our softwood lumber, aing that it was somehow federally subsidized. They took billions. WTO agreed with us.. but that still didn't matter. Good luck getting them to do what is right. But we MUST bow to the almighty walmart.
Even in the recent past couple of years Canada has been playing catchup. With its own set. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050325-4734.html/ http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2016/275/ -
Re:"It costs $X billion per year"
...you're armed with little more than those bullshit, hypocritical arguments...Highly highly unfair toward the GP.
I discourage my friends from infringing copyright, and I don't do it myself. It's ethically and legally wrong.
It is wrong because it's copyright infringement, it is not wrong because it's theft. In Montreal we have ads before theater showings that have the tag line "Piracy...it's theft". No it's not theft. It's copyright infringement. Why does the industry get to redefine and incorrectly use language this way then use that language to justify new laws and police style organizations?
TFA:
film[ theft] costs foreign and domestic distributors, retailers and others $18 billion a yearaccording to the MPAA head. No, it's not theft. It is NOT theft. And yet the MPAA gets away with this re-definition of words for marketing purposes. It makes a person frustrated which explains the language of the OP. If I was 10 years younger I'd be using the same language.
The MPAA does not get the benefit of the doubt. I don't trust their numbers, their language, or their motivation. Particularly when I'm aware of an Industry Canada study that shows
"a strong positive relationship between peer-to-peer file sharing and CD purchasing. That is, among Canadians actually engaged in it, P2P file sharing increases CD purchases."Unfortunately this misbehaviour by the MPAA makes it easy to dismiss everything they say, including the fact that copyright infringement is wrong. If geek culture wants to have it's voice heard in the mainstream it must be seen to be on the right side of that issue. The MPAA is scary, and illegal downloading is wrong. Both these things are true.
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Re:Let's do it![...] I am in Canada and it doesn't look as though it is as illegal here to copy DVD's (I have not actually looked that deep into it). Not for long... Better get informed.
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Re:Contact Your MPHere's what I wrote my MP (not knowing the details of the legislation):
I am very concerned about the upcoming potential copyright reform legislation as discussed by Law professor Michael Geist at http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2419/125/. From what is presented, it seems that the suggested legislation will be in step with the DMCA of the US, which, as you are probably aware of, some consider rather draconian in nature.
I have two points for your consideration that I would like to focus on:
1) We have recently, relative to human history, developed technology that enables producers and consumers of art to collaborate and communicate on a level practicably inconceivable only a few generations ago. Unless we plan on halting all advances in computer hardware and software, which seems unlikely, we must admit to ourselves that this technology fundamentally changes the way we do business in that it greatly decreases, potentially eliminating in some cases, the need for a connecting agent between producers and consumers. Understandably, any currently existing entities that act as such agents do not enjoy entertaining this fact but it is just that: a fact.
2) Copyright legistation does not only effect commercial enterprise; it effects all Canadians, including (but not limited to) independant artists, local media outlets, and, perhaps of particular importance, educators and students. It does more than regulate financial transactions; it has a direct impact on our cultural environment. Any reforms that focus primarily on the commercial scope of copyright law run the risk of alienating those inspired to participate in the development and promotion of Canadian culture.
Thank you for your time.
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Re:Not newsCanada has its own laws, and its own legislature. It can choose to withdraw from the treaties (very unlikely since there a major downsides to leaving WIPO). Yes, this is largely about complying with international treaties which Canada has already agreed to. So, to a large extent, the complaint is that said treaties should never have been signed in the first place. The WIPO provisions for DMCA-like legislation greatly over-reaches. So, even though this treaty has been signed, it should not be followed. Signatories should "do the right thing" and repeal their support for said treaties. (Wishful thinking, I know.) Just because a treaty has been signed does not, of course, make it proper and correct. This is not about bending to the will of America, it is about complying with international treaties. Well, actually Michael Geist explains the situation as:
The new Canadian legislation will likely mirror the DMCA with strong anti-circumvention legislation - far beyond what is needed to comply with the WIPO Internet treaties - and address none of the issues that concern millions of Canadians. The Conservatives promise to eliminate the private copying levy will likely be abandoned. There will be no flexible fair dealing. No parody exception. No time shifting exception. No device shifting exception. No expanded backup provision. Nothing.
(Emphasis added.)
In fact, there is a concern that while legislation is being proposed to conform to treaties, the opportunity will be seized to extend the laws beyond what is strictly required. In particular, it was found that some members of Canadian government are being influenced (financially, etc.) by U.S. lobbies. So, there is a real danger that overly restrictive laws get put in place in order to appease U.S. corporations (or the U.S. government, depending on how you want to look at it).
It's not as simple as saying that Canada must comply with the treaties it has signed. As you say, the law can be implemented in various ways, and we must all do our best to insure that they are implemented in sane, democratic, and freedom-preserving ways. (Which may mean not implementing them at all.) -
Re:Not newsCanada has its own laws, and its own legislature. It can choose to withdraw from the treaties (very unlikely since there a major downsides to leaving WIPO). Yes, this is largely about complying with international treaties which Canada has already agreed to. So, to a large extent, the complaint is that said treaties should never have been signed in the first place. The WIPO provisions for DMCA-like legislation greatly over-reaches. So, even though this treaty has been signed, it should not be followed. Signatories should "do the right thing" and repeal their support for said treaties. (Wishful thinking, I know.) Just because a treaty has been signed does not, of course, make it proper and correct. This is not about bending to the will of America, it is about complying with international treaties. Well, actually Michael Geist explains the situation as:
The new Canadian legislation will likely mirror the DMCA with strong anti-circumvention legislation - far beyond what is needed to comply with the WIPO Internet treaties - and address none of the issues that concern millions of Canadians. The Conservatives promise to eliminate the private copying levy will likely be abandoned. There will be no flexible fair dealing. No parody exception. No time shifting exception. No device shifting exception. No expanded backup provision. Nothing.
(Emphasis added.)
In fact, there is a concern that while legislation is being proposed to conform to treaties, the opportunity will be seized to extend the laws beyond what is strictly required. In particular, it was found that some members of Canadian government are being influenced (financially, etc.) by U.S. lobbies. So, there is a real danger that overly restrictive laws get put in place in order to appease U.S. corporations (or the U.S. government, depending on how you want to look at it).
It's not as simple as saying that Canada must comply with the treaties it has signed. As you say, the law can be implemented in various ways, and we must all do our best to insure that they are implemented in sane, democratic, and freedom-preserving ways. (Which may mean not implementing them at all.) -
Re:Relationship w/ Government
That Geist guy rules. Here is a link on what you are referring to:
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2251/125/
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Geist's list of 30 things
Geist's list of 30 things you can do, linked to in TFS, is pretty good, actually, no matter where you live. Even if your country already has a DMCA-like law, you can still fight for it or certain provisions of it to be repealed. Just replace the Canadian-sepcific info with the equivalents in your country.
Furthermore, some of it just plain good advice -- only buy DRM-free music and videos, release stuff under the Creative Commons licenses. And so forth.
Most of you are gonna be like, yeah, yeah, but no one cares. That's not true anymore. Now that the MAFIAA have become a nuisance and even public enemy #1 as far as some are concerned, the public will push for change. Like it or not, most politicians eventually cave to public opinion. After all, they need the public's support in order to get elected. -
Re:she's rightSo... what you're saying essentially is that someone who creates a piece of music, a work of literature, a computer program, anything that is not physically tangible should get absolutely no protection against anyone else making a bunch of free copies and distributing them?
They'd better not quit their day jobs in order to create such things, then! Of course I never said that.
If people want to make money off of their artistic works then so be it. If people want "protection" from artistic works then so be it. But that protection should not be an 800 pound guerrela. What I did say is that having no protection in place is better than having protection in place. This is the way it is now. If the government and industry want to change the laws to make things more fair then I may change my opinion. making a bunch of free copies and distributing them I have nothing against pursuing organized crime. Although there is an assumption on your part that people won't buy DRM-free music or support artists in other ways. Just a couple of links to give that argument a rest:
Gov't Commissioned Study Finds P2P Downloaders Buy More Music
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2347/125/
Radiohead's 'In Rainbows' Paid for by 38% of Site Downloaders
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9088/Radiohead's+'In+Rainbows'+Paid+for+by+38%25+of+Site+Downloaders
38 percent is certainly a high figure considering the people who would not have bought the album in the first place (whether it be available freely or not). A 38 percent profit off of the millions who downloaded that album is really quite a lot of money, not to mention the free advertising.
And let's face facts, people signing up for American Idle aren't making God Save the Queen (the punk version or otherwise). Same as the people chasing music labels in general. More likely than not their music will get perverted into "loudness" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war or some form of top-10 type copycat sound.
But yes, people should keep their day jobs unless they don't want to live in poverty. Being a musician is hard even if you're signed on to a major label. Same as with book publishing. The corporates will own everything and give you very little. The issue of IP ownership in this context has very little value. -
Re:News Flash from our cute neighbors to the north
According to a study by Industry Canada, file sharers actually buy more music than non-file sharers. All file sharing allows people to do is to find music that they like much easier. The more stuff they find that they like, the more money they will spend on music. If you've only ever heard of Britney Spears, because that's all the radio ever plays, then you can't buy that many CDs.
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Then they will throttle all encrypted traffic
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Re:It would be nice....
Having said that, I hope it scares the crap out of Comcast (and any other ISP dumb enough to try this).
I hope it scares the crap out of every ISP that promotes high speed internet connections for large file transfers, while manipulating traffic behind the scenes.
For example, Rogers in Canada which states "Enjoy the next generation of Internet service great for sharing large files and much more", while throttling the P2P services (or any encrypted connection) that are required for the very same as reported here. -
Expert OpinionMichael Geist, the lawyer, weighs in on the issue In this particular case, UE demanded that the site use IP addresses to filter out non-Canadian users, arguing that failing to do so infringes both European and Canadian copyright law. It is hard to see how this is true given that the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that sites such as IMSLP are entitled to presume that they are being used in a lawful manner and therefore would not rise to the level of authorizing infringement. The site was operating lawfully in Canada and there is no positive obligation in the law to block out non-Canadians.
As for a European infringement, if UE is correct, then the public domain becomes an offline concept, since posting works online would immediately result in the longest single copyright term applying on a global basis. That can't possibly be right. Canada has chosen a copyright term that complies with its international obligations and attempts to import longer terms - as is the case here - should not only be rejected but treated as copyright misuse. -
Question....
Actually two of them:
1. What hardware/software would carriers have to use to do this?
2. Can it be defeated?
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Re:So did the jury ...Disclaimer: I'm as anti-riaa as the next man, who is the crazed tinfoil slashdot poster. They were legally required to assign a penalty appropriate to the crime, but they did not do so It can be argued that what they assigned was completely "appropriate", according to the way the law is written. Statutory damages are the amount that is set out in the statute that would be considered "fair" against someone who committed that offence. After their finding of guilt, the jury HAD to pick an amount of damages ranging from $750 to $150,000 per song. Since its laid out in the statute, you can't blame them for picking that amount. Who you SHOULD be blaming are the silly politicians that included these "statutory damages" when they wrote the law. Instead, they should have left out the damages entirely and left it up to the discretion of the judge.
Thankfully I live in Canada where the amount of statutory damages are far more sensible for a crime of this nature. To quote Michael Geist from his blog: Second, the statutory damages provision in Canada is marginally better, with the prospect that a court would never arrive at this kind of award. Indeed, the Act allows a court to go below $200 per infringement. Statutory damages still have no place in these kinds of cases, but at least Canadian law is a bit more reasonable. -
Re:My two cents
People might find the views of a Canadian IP Lawyer interesting. He seems to think that the copyright claim is non-sense, and the official mark one likely won't fly based on recent Supreme court rulings.
I dunno much about either, but the copyright on an image from 1937 does seem like a stretch. Maybe someone should have some t-shirts printed and really rub it in.
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Re:Legal?Coincidentally, the CRIA is now opposing the private copying levy. The Canadian Recording Industry Association this week quietly filed documents in the Federal Court of Appeal that will likely shock many in the industry. CRIA, which spent more than 15 years lobbying for the creation of the private copying levy, is now fighting to eliminate the application of the levy on the Apple iPod since it believes that the Copyright Board of Canada's recent decision to allow a proposed tariff on iPods to proceed "broadens the scope of the private copying exception to avoid making illegal file sharers liable for infringement."- Michael Geist
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Re:Precedent!(Since you're "that" lawyer, I will take the time to research my reply to you...
:) It's an honour to dialogue with you here, on Slashdot)...3. Congratulations. I'm happy for you that file sharing "has been determined to be legal" in your country.
It was not a "code" that was interpreted, but the privacy act. From what I gather, the discovery process cannot override privacy laws. But don't take my word for it, have a look at Pr. Michael Geist's take on it, and, while we're at it, the actual text of the decision (Citation: BMG Canada Inc. v. John Doe (F.C.), 2004 FC 488, [2004] 3 F.C.R. 241 -- Date: March 31, 2004 -- Docket: T-292-04).4. Question. Was the "determination" in a "code" or was it a judge's decision interpreting the code?
5. Question. Do you want the judge's decision to be "perpetuated", or would you rather leave it up to other judges to ignore it because it was "misguided"?
It can hardly be ignored, because it was a federal court decision, which do establish the state of federal laws.6. I am guessing that
File sharing is actually legal. The canadian copyright act provides for "private copy"; you can copy music you borrow from your friends and/or the library -- libraries are full of people ripping CDs on their laptops:
-it was a decision by a judge, because the "code" did not specify whether file sharing was legal or not, and[...]the act of reproducing all or any substantial part of [a sound recording] onto an audio recording medium for the private use of the person who makes the copy does not constitute an infringement of the copyright in the musical work, the performer's performance or the sound recording.
See for yourself in the relevant section (80) of the actual law.-you would want other judges to follow that decision, rather than for each new case to be a guessing game as to what the judge's personal opinion will be.
No guessing game here! We're talking about federal law... :)7. People need to know, when they wake up in the morning, how to plan their lives so they don't run afoul of the law. They need to know what the law is, and can't have a random system where each judge's personal opinion is all that counts. And no legislator is so much of a prophet that he can write a code that will cover all eventualities. Sometimes one needs a judge to apply the law to the facts. So you see, the 2 systems are not so dissimilar after all. And you are not so different than the people you are attacking. You too, want good judicial decisions to be followed by future judges.
Of course they are not too different; there is jurisprudence in our civil code system, but new cases aren't crap shoots, they are carefully reviewed and applied to the relevant civil codes articles. And when necessary, the civil code gets updated.However, the main advantage of a civil code is that cases are very rarely murky so the outcome can be most often determined early enough to keep down litigation to an acceptable level.
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Re:Illegal evidence?
Maybe we don't need a "pirate party" per se, but we need more people representing the "other side" of the copyright debate. The current Conservative government stated in their platform from the last election that they would eliminate the 'levy" on blank media (look under Section 35 Copyright Legislation). Well, that certainly has not happened, and the music industry is lobbying them hard to extend the tax to other forms of media. Add to that the efforts of industry shills from the US who would like Canada to radify WIPO and enact legislation similar to the DMCA, and I would say we are currently at a serious disadvantage.
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Re:Classic Bait & Switch
It's not just that. It's about deceit. The cell companies led consumers to think that the system access fee was mandated by the Canadian government, when in fact it wasn't.
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Re:No Piracy
It's part of the reason behind the tarifs we pay on storage media (as much as $25 on an iPod, for example).
Actually the levy on blank media stands (though it was recently reduced), but the levy on iPods was challenged and overturned. Apple has a page explaining that the levy was overturned and how to request a refund if you paid it.
(Unfortunately, the $ millions overpaid by Canadians on the blank media levy will apparently not be refunded to consumers.) -
...and in Canada
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Re:Encryption
Rogers (a Canadian ISP) is rumoured to be throttling tunneled traffic on its cable Internet service.
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1859/?a=1
Really, it's getting to the point that if you use your high-speed Internet for anything beyond simple web surfing and email, you're the enemy. -
Re:Good Lord.Maybe because your man-about-the-town Wilkin (US Ambasador to Canada) makes speaches where he states that he is going to ask for Canadians to pass laws, and the MPAA (the US group representing Hollywood) wants Canada on the watch list and the USTR puts Canada on the watch list citing specifically cam'ing as an issue. (More details are here)
So before you act all indignant-like better double-check the actions of your representatives.
I can't verify it now (damn firewall!), but I'm pretty sure this is the video explaining how to get Canadian legislation passed...
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Re:Extortion...
It's not just you. Most of us who pay the levy feel the same way! Incidentally, the iPod levy was overturned by the Supreme Court of Canada a couple of years ago, but the CPCC (Canadian Private Copyright Collective) is currently in the process of trying to ram through another levy, this time covering iPods and flash cards for your camera as well (http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2112/125
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Re:Tax them for using law enforcement resources
This has nothing to do with downloading music illegally and putting it on your iPod.
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Re:As a canadian...
Well according to various federal courts of Canada (including rulings by the Supreme Court) it is legal to download music and it is also to make your shared music folder available over the internet. Sounds to me like sharing is legal though purposely sending music to someone would still be illegal.
See for example http://www.michaelgeist.ca/resc/html_bkup/may30200 5.html or for the text of the Supreme Court decision http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/scc/doc/2004/2004scc45 /2004scc45.html