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DO NOT use the grayrest.com link. Use the plugindoc link. mozdev can take the load, grayrest can't.

You can find some cool add-ons for Mozilla at Mozdev. Among these are: Annozilla, a sidebar tool for annotating websites; Forumzilla, a tool for reading web discussion forums usenet-style; Jabberzilla, a Jabber-client; MozBlog for weblog authors; OptiMoz for mouse gestures, and many many others. Not all of these work with 1.0 yet, though.

You could give these a try.

If you're sick of that curly, blue lizard icon that appears on EVERY window, try installing the icons found here:

http://www.grayrest.com/moz/resources/icons.shtml

They're nice looking, and more importantly, I can now differentiate between the browser windows and the mail windows...

Supposedly these and other icons are available from the following page, but it's really slow right now for me...

http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/icons.html

Many thanks also to those of the rest of us who kept the faith, spending long expensive nights downloading another flakey nightly build, who never hit EXIT on a moz process until it had crashed...

Personally I feel more involved with Moz than any other Free Software project, I've been testing, logging bugs in Bugzilla, reading the docs, status reports and mozillazine ever since the news was first announced here on Slashdot. Anyone else out there coming to the London party? Gervase?

A million thanks to everyone who hacked code or helped out on the project in any way. Mozilla is the most enjoyable software I've ever used, apart from Perl that is. Oh frabjous day! Calloo, callay!!! =) *does a little dance*

PS: and a special thanks to Asa and the rest of the evangelist types who turn up here reliably and calmy refuting the FUD and bollocks that have come from Slahdotters over the years. Go back a couple of years and pick out a Slashdot moz story -- you lot /hated/ it and it sometimes seemed no-one else believed it would ever work...)

Microsoft is so good at screwing up its own OS, thank God they seem to do a good job with Mac apps (though 90% of our security problems are due to M$).This will be moot for Mac Users anyway with Chimera looking better every day (nightly build).

This update lets Carbon apps use Quartz text antialiasing, which everybody knows is the very best thing about Quartz.

errrr... I assume you're referring to ATSUI text rendering, which has been available in the Carbon API for quite some time. Apps like Chimera, a Cocoa version of Navigator that uses Gecko, compile with ATSUI rendering, but apparently not before taking a healthy speed hit.

So while this has been available to developers for quite a while, not all apps enable it, and from what i've seen, that's chiefly because of speed concerns. Hopefully Apple has gotten on the ball and sped up the ATSUI rendering code, but until Jaguar, when Quartz Extreme offloads everything to a graphics card, we probably won't see any serious speed improvements in antialiased text rendering.

"OmniWeb is my dad."

Really? Surely Chimera should be your dad. Or at least your mum.

Well here's the skin. Personally I find Mozilla renders pretty damn close to IE these days.

One URL: OptiMoz Gestures for Mozilla.

The Mozilla tabs are great. If you need even more tab features, there's MultiZilla.

If you want mouse gestures in Mozilla, there's OptiMoz Gestures. They work just great.

So, really, how is Mozilla blown away?

The Mozilla tabs are great. If you need even more tab features, there's MultiZilla.

If you want mouse gestures in Mozilla, there's OptiMoz Gestures. They work just great.

So, really, how is Mozilla blown away?

First, let me say, this is a *BAD* thing for the Internet. It's bad enough that IE goes around telling sites it's Mozilla/4.0, having Opera or Mozilla lie about being IE who's lieing about being Netscape is just silly.

If you want to fake the browser string, you can put the following in your user.js file (in your profile directory):

user_pref("general.useragent.override", "fake agent string");

This just alters what Mozilla sends, not it's behavior.

There's also the Useragent Toolbar which lets you adjust this on the fly.

He claims that "Opera only added tabs in its newest version after Mozilla had them already in its trunk builds."

Opera introduced its 'Window Bar' (buttons for each open within the MDI) with Opera 4, wich came out in spring of 2000. Around that time Mozilla was at M14 and the first Netscape 6 Preview was being released. Neither of those had the equivalent to Opera's Window Bar. The first mention of Mozilla 'tabbed browsing' I can find is a year later, contained in this post to the Mozilla newsgroups. Implementation didn't happen until late summer or fall of 2001, possibly being beat to it by the Multizilla project.

Of course NetCaptor (A shell for the MSIE HTML rendering component) had them back in '99, maybe even earlier.

Chimera seems to have succeeded in this effort just fine. Dave Hyatt made pseudo-Aqua widgets that obey CSS rules (though, actually, they don't have to), and they don't look half bad.

Chimera seems to have succeeded in this effort just fine. Dave Hyatt made pseudo-Aqua widgets that obey CSS rules (though, actually, they don't have to), and they don't look half bad.

Set them up with the MSIE skin for Mozilla. :)

If you are interesting in getting help for installing plugins goto MozDev's Plugin Documentation.

And of course there's the Mozilla Google Toolbar for people who don't use IE.

Ack! Our party has been Slashdotted!! Anyway, for any folks who want to party, in addition to the 800,000 or so who have signed up in the past 2 hours, the gig is at Remote Lounge, in the East Village. Our web site is (graciously!) hosted at mozdev.org.
The date is currently scheduled for Friday, the 7th, but it might move to the 12th, to coincide with the bash at DNA Lounge.
Party on!

David Hyatt, Chimera's principal developer, said that since he was on sabbatical no new builds were in the works until July. However, the demand for more development was so high, and the rumors were so rampant, that he released a new build this morning. See for yourself. David has denied the rumors repeatedly, and I doubt that Apple will take Chimera and rename it iBrowser or (even better) iBrowse. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it eventually became the default browser and shipped with future versions of the OS.

- Nicer interface (although Chimera has Aqua interface widgets, the ones in OmniWeb are nicer).

By the way, Omni Group wants you to pay for OmniWeb, and they give you little 'encouragements' to do so, but it's not crippleware

I think the majority of people who are using OmniWeb are using it for one of these two reasons:

• Pretty anti-aliased text
  
• It's not microsoft made.
  

I know I keep pushing it, but once Chimera hits primetime it will be the best browser around.

I posted the comment in the bug after yanking the feature; admittedly, the comment was probably a bit inappropriate.

Nevertheless, this illustrates just how easy it is to get a poorly designed, marginal feature into Mozilla, and then in short order be able to enforce "squatter's rights" to keep it there. (With wild conspiracy theoretic claims, nonetheless!)

The "feature" -- and I use the term loosely -- threw up a dialog for each image on the page before loading it. It was implemented without understanding how the layout engine worked, and caused us to crash on all but the most trivial pages.

For those who continue to thirst for this capability, note that the hooks to implement this feature well remain in Mozilla. And there is plenty of room on mozdev.org for a mixin that would take advantage of the hooks (hopefully, in a more useful way than spamming the poor user with hundreds of dialogs on each page load).

For Mac see Fizilla: or, for the boring, "Mozilla for MacOS X" http://www.mozilla.org/ports/fizzilla/

Actually, the two Fizillas are simply carbon Mozillas. For a Gecko-based browser with OS X's look and feel, you should download Chimera, a Cocoaized Mozilla-based browser. Chimera I think is a browser-only version, as is mozilla/browser (for Windows; don't have a URI).

Well, I need netscape anyway because some sites won't let you install a plugin for mozilla but only netscape or explorer.

Redundant, I know. But if you want the speed of gecko, with quartz-rendering and tabbed browsing too, you can do worse than use Chimera.

*cough* Chimera *cough*

I don't know anything about developing for Opera ("developing for" here meaning "writing extensions and plugins and such", not "writing HTML that targets a specific browser"), but IE has a very robust, very powerful extension model. You can write BHOs (Browser Helper Objects) that do anything from display a document inside the IE frame (Adobe's PDF plugin does this) to blocking pop-ups (Like this [daishar.com]) to most anything else. You can add new toolbars (like Google's bar [google.com]), new sidebars (like the vertical favorites bar, or you can make a horizontal bar), add items to the Tools menu, and more. I'm sure you can do all of this using Mozilla, too, but the beauty here is that you don't need the source for IE to be able to do all this.

Sure, I know about BHOs. The BHO interface is used by quite a bit of spyware. :-)

Speaking of features, Mozilla has built-in popup blocking. It also supports inline Acrobat, and it has an unofficial Google toolbar available for it. Mozilla also has a customizable sidebar, which the equivalent of IE's. Mozilla has extra features too, such as folders that can search the whole bookmark list and bookmarks that link into the Mozilla core via Javascript. It is even possible to enable mouse gestures with Mozilla. By the way, for all the things I listed, the source code isn't necessary for either, even though it is available, which is more than I can say for IE.

I don't know anything about developing for Opera ("developing for" here meaning "writing extensions and plugins and such", not "writing HTML that targets a specific browser"), but IE has a very robust, very powerful extension model. You can write BHOs (Browser Helper Objects) that do anything from display a document inside the IE frame (Adobe's PDF plugin does this) to blocking pop-ups (Like this [daishar.com]) to most anything else. You can add new toolbars (like Google's bar [google.com]), new sidebars (like the vertical favorites bar, or you can make a horizontal bar), add items to the Tools menu, and more. I'm sure you can do all of this using Mozilla, too, but the beauty here is that you don't need the source for IE to be able to do all this.

Sure, I know about BHOs. The BHO interface is used by quite a bit of spyware. :-)

Speaking of features, Mozilla has built-in popup blocking. It also supports inline Acrobat, and it has an unofficial Google toolbar available for it. Mozilla also has a customizable sidebar, which the equivalent of IE's. Mozilla has extra features too, such as folders that can search the whole bookmark list and bookmarks that link into the Mozilla core via Javascript. It is even possible to enable mouse gestures with Mozilla. By the way, for all the things I listed, the source code isn't necessary for either, even though it is available, which is more than I can say for IE.

Well, maybe it's only supported on IE, but you can get it for Mozilla.

What do you mean "use the Aqua interface"? It certainly uses Aqua to render the appearance of the buttons via the theme engine (assuming they've specified to render with the native style), and the behaviour is pretty similar too. I doubt many people would be able to tell a "native" app from Mozilla.

Here are some links to the java and flash plugin installers that just automatically work with mozilla (or netscape):

Java Plugin for mozilla (win32)
Flash Plugin for mozilla (win32)

And you thought tabbed browsing in Mozilla was cool...

Check out the Google Toolbar

Awwwwe, I have found true love... Mozilla + Tabbed Browsing + Google Toolbar

See BannerBlind for blocking your in-page adds.

You can find a XUL-Plugin for mozilla here.
I haven't tried it with NS7 jet, but it works nice with mozilla.

Try Chimera. It's to OSX what Galeon is for Gnome.

Googlebar for Mozilla

Not a perfect implementation, but good enough for me.

S

FYI, there is a spell checker for Mozilla, which is suposedly to be integrated to the Mozilla source after the 1.0 release.

While it is a native OS X application in the most basic sense of the word, it does not yet use the Aqua interface. For this functionality, check out the Chimera browser.

There's a Mozilla version over at MozDev It's pretty sweet really. Hope this helps!

And for those that haven't found it yet, enigmail should allow you to use GNU Privacy Guard with Mozilla, even under Windows. Haven't tried it myself yet.

Yes, I'm sure we all agree that popups are truly a pain, but we also run into some other issues with this: at what point do you draw the line between annoying and helpful?

What if a page is designed to use window.open() in a helpful way? Is disabling it in this scenario beneficial?

This was most of the reason why <blink> disappeared (mostly... now it's available in CSS): There weren't ANY ways to use it without being obnoxious.

Looking for http://spellchecker.mozdev.org/?

Mozilla doesn't have a pointy-clicky way to change the useragent out of the box, but you can add that with the Mozilla Useragent Toolbar. That's what I used (on Moz 1.0 RC1) and it got me past Hotmail's browser Nazism without a problem. Many thanks to David Illsley (developer of uabar) for the nifty add-on!

-- Jason Lefkowitz

This was pretty brave considering that chimera is only at version 0.28 ;-)

I was pretty suprised when I noticed that not only was Phil Shiller not using IE for his Xserve demos durin this introduction, but he was using Chimera instead! This was pretty brave considering that chimera is only at version 0.28 ;-)

<conspiracy theory>Could this mean that Apple may dump IE in the future in favor of chimera once it's finished?</conspiracy theory>

Go Chimera! Go Phil! Go Steve!

Knowing the mental qualities of most page-restrictors, this fools their detection scripts quite nicely. This can blow up in your face, however, if the malicious web designer chooses to intentionally exclude Opera, by denying all browsers that contain 'opera' anywhere. I have complained about this to the Opera support groups [opera.com] but they told me it wasn't possible to do a "complete" fake header. If you want that I guess you have to rewrite user-agent headers with a proxy.

Or use Mozilla and the UA Toolbar or UA Sidebar

But once you get used to the mousegestures and the superfast page rendering it's hard to getaway.

Mozilla _has_ mousegestures.

As far as superfast page rendering, how much faster than instant can you get??? Maybe it's just the sites that I goto, but I never have a noticable page loading lag...

Try:

http://optimoz.mozdev.org/gestures/