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Mac OS X 10.1.5 Update Available
krugdm writes "The Mac OS X 10.1.5 update which was hinted at in the MS Office update changelog is now available through Software Update. From the updater: 'Update 10.1.5 delivers enhancements which improve the reliability of Mac OS X applications, delivers improved networking, security, support for PC Card serial communication devices, and expanded peripheral device support.'"
When hell freezes over, or when Steve's reality distortion field fails. Whichever comes first.
It now supports 2D hardware acceleration and Quicktime support for the Rage Pro. Finally, the rev/A iMacs and iBooks can use OS X faster. Works quite well, windows on it seem snappier.
So when is MacOS X 10.2 planned?
From earlier stories, it looks like some really nice speed enhancments adn goodies are planned!
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I'm not wearing any pants.
But I am downloading 10.1.5
Right now
No pants !!!!
Weeeeeeeeeeeee
Any news on when Mac OS for intel based systems is planned?
Okay, from you posting history you don't appear to be a troll, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and treat your question seriously.
The answer, of course, is "never." Duh.
But what I'm much more interested in is why you, and lots of other people and trolls, seem to think that such a thing might happen? Even the phrasing of your question-- when is it planned?-- implicitly assumes that such a port will appear eventually.
What possesses you to think such a thing?
Is it available for download yet ?
Software Update doesn't work behind the office firewall.
No mention of updates to the slow-ass finder. Finder as an application is so slow, with large numbers of files and directories it's effectively useless. This isn't too bad, as I usually use the shell. When an application necessitates me using the finder though, it's infuriatingly slow compared to windows explorer.
I'm beginning to get annoyed, I've had my Tibook for a long time now (8 months?) and this issue still hasn't been addressed.
And yes, I run the maintenance files. That does nada. We'll see if there's any improvements tomorrow, but no mention either.
..don't panic
This update lets Carbon apps use Quartz text antialiasing, which everybody knows is the very best thing about Quartz.
In about five minutes, I'll let you know if IE takes advantage of this feature yet. I'm betting that it won't without an update.
What possesses you to think such a thing?
The source of this questioning is probably the Darwin 1.4.1 ISO image for x86 that's available....
Does 10.1.15 do anything to alleviate the speed problems that OS X has suffered from?
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"But what I'm much more interested in is why you, and lots of other people and trolls, seem to think that such a thing might happen?"
Maybe because it already happened before but was killed because Apple did not want to sell Mac OS for x86?
It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
The source of this questioning is probably the Darwin 1.4.1 ISO image for x86 that's available....
Sure, Darwin has been available for IA-32 for a long time. But Darwin isn't OS X. The question remains, why would anybody think Apple would port their flagship operating system-- meaning OS X, not Darwin-- to a different architecture? Isn't that kind of like asking when Tivo is going to port their software to Replay TV's hardware?
If the original poster had even known to look at the Darwin x86 ISO's, s/he might have focused the original dopey question a bit more. The only thing even closely relevant in the release notes says: "Darwin 1.4.1 should not be installed onto a Mac OS X partition. It is a goal for a future release of Darwin to be easily interchanged into a Mac OS X system."
To then read into this that "Aqua will be easily compiled into a x86 system" is rather a long leap.
What the note is really pointing out is that on a *Mac*, for now you can either compile and run Darwin, or you can run MacOSX, but you can't do both. Copying a Darwin module you've compiled yourself into an OSX system is gonna fsck you up.
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my iBook 300 is much faster rendering windows after this update. I ve been waiting for this one.
I cant wait till 10.2 comes out. that is supposed to be much snappier on slower g3 based systems.
Thank You apple
or when Steve's reality distortion field fails. Whichever comes first.
It's been going strong for decades now...I wouldn't expect it to fail anytime soon.
...Though I don't own a mac, I wll say that the G4 is a fairly respectable cpu, I very much look forward to seeing the G5...though it may be some time...
Maybe because it already happened before but was killed because Apple did not want to sell Mac OS for x86?
Sure, the Star Trek project. That project failed for the obvious reasons:
1. Apple didn't think it likely that PC vendors would choose to bundle a Mac OS for Intel with their systems, and Apple didn't like the odds of trying to sell an after-market OS to customers that already had one for their computers.
2. Apple didn't want to start a political battle with Motorola by appearing to endorse Intel's CPUs over the PowerPC.
3. Apple was-- and is-- a hardware company, not a software company. Porting the OS to another platform would do nothing but reduce Apple's hardware revenues, which would very quickly be self-defeating.
Same reasons Apple wouldn't want to port OS X to any other architecture. So the question stands: why would anybody assume that Apple would want to port their OS to a non-Apple hardware platform?
2. Apple didn't want to start a political battle with Motorola by appearing to endorse Intel's CPUs over the PowerPC.
Of course, then Motorola went and did it to themselves. Their corporate IT folks mandated an all Intel PC corporate policy - effectively outlawing anyone using computers based on their own processors.
Bloody brilliant, that move....
> Maybe because it already happened before but was killed because Apple did not want to sell Mac OS for x86?
Apple makes money because it has differentiated itself as a boutique brand. That brand includes a boxen with noticeable industrial design and the label on the side.
Going software only would be a radical move for a company that's profitable, and stockholders of profitable companies hate radical moves. They rarely suceed, and are a sign of desperation.
No matter what cpu Apple runs with, it will control the form and function of the boxes that go around it, and be the exclusive distributor. You are never, ever going to load OSX into a generic Intel box and expect it to boot.
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I have a Powerbook G4 550Mhz with 256MB RAM. I'm not noticing much increases in performance, (a la: bounces on loading, altho iTunes seemed to pop right up, but maybe it's just my perception) but the boot up seemed to take a shorter time, and the login screen looked crisp as hell. Just little touches as far as I can tell. Oh, and I just fired up MS Entourage. (Did not update it to the newest version, as I have a "grey area" copy of it) and the email inbox window seems nice and smoothe with the text, but the actuall message bodies are still jagged.
I must say tho, that I can always count on looking foward to Apple updates. They always add stuff while fixing things. Never just a fix/patch up holes release. They always sweeten the deal just enough to keep ya comming back for more. Unlike MS updates, which we all dread and regret in some cases....
Oh, and my friend that has a 700Mhz G3 (yes THREE) iMac is reporting huge performance increases (iTunes loads in one bounce) and says it's friggin awesome. Maybe cause they optimized for the Rage Pro and not the Radeon like my PBook has. Oh well, WHENS JAGUAR GETTING HERE! I want it now, dammit!
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Sweet stuff inside!
When you press eject button (F12) you see eject icon on the screen,
New option in Energy Saver preference, "reduce processor performance" on my iBook.
Access to iDisk is so much faster, not as fast as Goliath but really fast now.
I know someone on the Apple board of directors who told me over a year ago that the G5 is ready to go, but the demand for the G4 has been so strong that they won't release the G5... yet.
Perhaps he was just blowning wind up my shorts, but I don't think so. Steve is a smart businessman (especially since NeXT taught him a thing or two) Be ready. It's coming. I expected it a macworld in January, but MWNYC is coming up, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him announce this wonderous piece of silicon.
3. Apple was-- and is-- a hardware company, not a software company.
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This statement is posted quite often, but I have to (somewhat) disagree. Apple is not just a hardware company. Apple is a COMPUTER company. They make the whole shebang, the hardware, the OS, and a lot of the best software for the platform. Very few other companies can say that. (Sun, IBM, HP, perhaps... with various Unices in ONLY the server market)
I am glad that Apple doesn't port to x86. As a long time windows/linux user, I can say that I was surprised at how much I love my Mac systems. OS X, how I love thee.
surely not? are Moto REALLY that stupid? no wonder Iridium was such a fuck-up!
OS X for generic PCs - who cares? OS X for Apple boxes with processors other than G3/4/5? Could be, if the need arose - eg for a cheap X-Scale based X-Serve thin client, a StrongArm based Mac-Tivo-like or an AMD Opteron based rendering engine, among other unlikely possibilities. Though the MacTivo would probably be running Pixo like the iPod anyway.
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All powerbook users that use DoubleCommand to turn the useless second enter key into another beware ! 10.1.5 crashes at boot time due to DoubleCommand.
Delete the folder in your Library/Startup Items folder !!
blaah !
I really don't care about iTunes launching in fewer bounces. They really should decrease the amount of CPU playing an mp3 file requires with iTunes.
;-)
I'm reading 27% cpu as I'm typing this. While it rarely skips on my powerbook G3/400 firewire, I really could use the CPU cycles when I'm compiling stuff with ant...
Please do not exagerate load times when other performance issues are a lot more important.
I've run a copy of the Jaguar prerelease and it's much better performance wise in a lot of area's.
Terminal is just one bounce in 10.2 , which is crucial for us *nix lovers ! Quicktime 6 is a huge improvement over 4 and the finder is much quicker and even more productive with the excellent integrated find !
Can't wait untill it ships
blaah !
Just a reminder to all OS X users: 10.1.5 is rumored to be the last no-cost upgrade to OS X. 10.2 (Jaguar) will be a pay-to-play upgrade per Steve Jobs.
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
Here's an update to our software. Now update your operating system to support it.
My tsch prompt in the terminal has changed. I'm pretty sure it's b/c of this update.
t er:~] elliotj%
When I launch my terminal.app this the prompt:
[elliot\032johnson\226\149\146s\032compu
but if I "pwd", it reports that I'm at:
/Users/elliotj
Wierd. Any ideas?
You forgot SGI and they do more than server market. Of they make Macs look cheap.
Updated to 10.1.5, G4-350 with AGP. Still slow as shit to scroll finder windows. Still slow as shit to redraw window contents. Still takes forever for a menu to appear when you mouse over the submenu. Still can't burn with my "supported" cd-rw which works great in OS9. Still the SAME OLD SHIT FROM APPLE.
i have the G4 400mghz tower, rage 128 card and about a gig of Ram..... the install went smooth as ever..... everything does seem a bit snappier. restarts seem faster (though i usually only restart every few weeks if i need to goto OS 9 for something). in general apps seem to launch a lil faster too. i am noticing a MASSIVE speed increase trolling through my pictures in iPhoto. i have about 800 pictures in the library and it used to be a bit pokey changing thumbnail size or scrolling through the list.... it is at least a good 4 or 5 times faster. i was never sure if the lag was due to my graphics card or my seemingly now older processor.... but it has gotten a lot faster. idisk is faster too, but i have not played with it too much. i have heard the developer copy of 10.2 is faster even on older machines,a nd after installing this somewhat minor update, i an quite optimistic. anyway, no issues so far for me..... when i rebooted it moved my second display tot he right side (Apple default setting) but so far everything else i see is unchanged. even mouse speed stayed fast... that occasionally resets to some mid tracking speed. overall i give it the big thumbs up.
i have read on other sites that people trying to install 10.1.5 on top of the developer jaguar (10.2?) are having issues in some (many?) cases.... you may want to investigate. i don't know if Apple said anything to the developers about that or not but just a heads up.
side noe, jumping from 10.1.4 to 10.1.5 on my G4 400 went well... and it's a good bit faster all around. (i already posted elsewhere on this thread about specific stuff)
good luck!
I have only used the update for a couple hours. My observations: 1. Has not broken anything. 2. Seems 'speedier' 3. I enjoy using OSX more every day. 4. iDisk still seems slow. Final score: 3 out of 4.
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I've heard rumors about 10.1.6, so that's not entirely true. Presumably the usual mix of bug fixes and driver additions.
And semanticly, I'm sure there will be plenty of free updates beyond 10.2 (such as 10.2.1).
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I'd bet more of my money on a Transmeta PPC compatibility layer being released as a firmware update and Apple signing OEM contracts with HPaq and other hardware manufacturers to put an Apple case/label on their hw where Apple isn't producing an entry in that field. With Jaguar's Inkwell handwriting recognition being rolled in, an OEM Apple machine sporting a Transmeta chip would actually fit the Steve desire for clones, something that would add, not cannibalize from the Apple lineup, something that would strategically benefit Apple like if HPaq sales channels would offer the Apple OEM line to their enterprise customers), and something that would generally fit with Apple culture. Steve hates fans, Transmeta is a very cool chip, Steve might be tempted here in a way that he wouldn't be with an intel line.
Transmeta would be validated as well since they would become the hardware to go for if you want to protect your investment. After all, if MS and/or Intel implodes under a Supreme Court ruling, you have maximum flexibility to the point of changing your emulation layer to the new most viable chip line.
No , DoubleCommand is loaded before your machine reaches the loginwindow. So you can never login.
/Library/StartupItems/DoubleCommand.
:
Because I booted into Jaguar and removed the folder that way, I can't say this works. But if DoubleCommand doesn't get loaded when booting in single usermode this will certainly work:
The only way to fix it is to boot in single user mode using holding cmd-s while booting. And then remove the folder in
See this page for more boot and startup commands
blaah !
Just want to add that my Sawtooth 400 with Adaptec SCSI 2906 now hibernates!
There was a problem in previous versions where (if I recall correctly) the OS didn't know what to do about supplying power to SCSI PCI cards when the system tried to hibernate, so they just disabled the feature. With the upgade to 10.1.5 it now goes into a deep sleep, which is a big improvement!
When you have nothing left to burn you must set yourself on fire
The 10.1.5 update both fixes and BREAKS support for the Radeon 7000 PCI cards.
An incompatibility with Beige G3 systems has been corrected but now the video gets scrambled when the system wakes from sleep.
At the risk of perpetuating advertising for Unsanity... today I received this email from Unsanity (I use several of their "haxies"):
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Dear friends,
When we saw MacOS X 10.1.5 out this morning, we got all excited about the ability of Carbon applications to use the native Quartz text rendering for ultra-smooth, antialiased text display. In order to take advantage of this feature, however, every Carbon application needs to be updated
"That's not fair" - we thought, so we sat down and wrote a small freeware haxie, called Silk (smooth as silk, get the feeling?). Silk enables the Quartz text rendering and smoothing introduced in Mac OS X 10.1.5 for all Carbon applications. This means antialiased text in Microsoft Internet Explorer, Mozilla, and many others. And if it doesn't look right in some application, you can add it to the Exclude list to get it to the way it looked before.
So, grab it now:
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More information and some pretty screenshots:
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Thank you for your support and participation!
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It really does work. I d/led silk from www.haxies.com and it immediately made IE test anti-aliased.
Woo-hoo Unsanity is great!
Is anyone else having problems with iPhoto after upgrading?
Later,
Phil
when they did the demo of Jaguar at the devcon Jobs said it would ship late summer, and to expect one more update before then. that *should* make 10.1.5 the last update before Jaguar. they also have not been making updates frequently, so i would think Jaguar in August is about time for another update. i assume we also will not see anything much of new hardware till MWNYC (maybe a minor speed bump or something), and anything released there will probably be shipping right off with Jaguar.
the only way i see them releasing a 10.1.6 is if there is some sort of problem with this release working on all machines (10.1.5.x?), or if something comes out between now and Jaguar that Apple wants to have built in drivers for (like they find another solution for the pesky bluetooth device). i guess it is also possible 10.1.6 would exist for people that do not jump to Jaguar (if it really is a pay upgrade, likely) and Apple still REALLY wants them to be able to access something. time will tell.
I've just installed the update on a G3 600MHz Graphite iMac. It lost my dock and desktop settings, but apart from that it seems like it hasn't made any difference at all. For a 22.4MByte download, I'd expect something a little more dramatic to happen, good or bad.
I haven't tried printing yet. My printing was fscked after ugrading from 10.1.2 to 10.1.3. It took an age to get that working again.
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My monitor settings seem to have gotten reset to the "recommended" default setting.. lower res. Lots of reports that it seems faster, but I can't tell (yet?).
Nothing broken. Hooray!
Powerbook G4/1.5GHz 12", Toshiba Satellite 1135-S1554
Steve is a smart businessman (especially since NeXT taught him a thing or two)
I once saw an interview with a venture capitalist who said he wouldn't invest a dime in a company unless the founder had had at least two failures prior to starting it. Failing, and learning from the experience, is part of the path to success.
To bring this back at least somewhat on topic, the inclusion of better Rage Pro support in the 10.1.5 release, and the release of the eMac to the general public, is evidence that Jobs has learned from his failures, and is a better CEO for having been through them. The "old Steve" would have stuck to his guns and defended his decisions in these areas to the last. The "new Steve" better understands the price of stubbornness.
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Well, after the upgrade, and some playing around, I noticed that sshd is now defaulting to ssh1 instead of ssh2, nicely breaking my auth keys in the process.
Bad Apple, Bad Apple.
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...is that it's still not running on my Quadras.
(back to recompiling darwin on 68k for me... 3 months & seventeen days and gcc's STILL going...)
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for anyone who can tell me what the other enter key is *supposed* to be used for, anyway! ;
No problems on a newly upgraded iMac 400 DV
And it should be noted that the Darwin IA32 port has pretty strict hardware limitations. How many of these "when is OS X gonna be available for my cheap Intel box" folks have actually managed to get Darwin running on their Intel box?
Asume for a moment that Microsoft were split into 2 companies. One with applications and one with Operating Systems. Assume then that the newly formed OS division were to cut off either AMD OR Intel. At that juncture, (AMD let's say) could purchase apple outright, compile it for x86 and market it to any company wishing to build AMD based systems. A far reach though this setup is, it's something that could happen. All you have to do is take the hardware interest in PPC away from apple, and find a way to keep MS from with-holding it's killer applications. Then you have a viable setup to produce OSX on x86. It's NOT impossible, only improbable. I do agree with you on one thing though, I don't understand why this guy thinks it's already being planned or slated for production...
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I have spent the last 2 Months writing Image files using toast in OS X then writing them in OS 9 which is a pain in the ass! (created Desktop folders when viewed in X)
I have been emailing Iomega support and bitching about the lack of drivers
Installed the update, and toast now sees the Iomega drive in OS X
Happy Happy Joy Joy!!
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I can absolutely verify that the video improvements in OS 10.1.5 work on a Rev. A iMac with a Rage IIc chip and 6MB of video RAM. I am positive mine is a Rev. A iMac... it was purchased on the first day possible: August 15, 1998 at midnight. The VRAM was upgraded from 2MB to 6MB, and before I installed OS X (Public Beta) I upgraded the processor to a 400MHz G3 via a PowerLogix iForce upgrade. Before 10.1.5, the trailer for the movie "Heartbreakers" (I have been using that file as my benchmark... trying it after each OS X update!) downloaded from the Apple QuickTime site (T1 speed version) would play at about 6 to 8 frames per second (normal size), would stop and start while playing, and would not maintain audio/video sync under Mac OS X... while it would play perfectly at 24 frames per second (at normal size or at full screen size) under Mac OS 9.x. After upgrading to Mac OS X version 10.1.5, this movie plays through at the normal 24 frames per second without any problems. It will even play through in full screen mode... and while it does drop frames at full screen size, it does maintain audio/video sync! iTunes visuals now play at 8-10 frames per second at full screen (was measured in seconds per frame prior to 10.1.5!) I didn't notice much difference in iPhoto (but I don't have a lot of photos in there!) The Slideshow Screen Savers (Cosmos, etc.) still do not fade and pan... they still simply switch from one picture to the next. (Of course this is done by Open GL... was not expecting that to be accellerated by this upgrade!) While this did not make my iMac a speed demon, I am very pleased with the improvement... just the QuickTime playback improvement alone was worth threatening Apple with a class-action lawsuit! jimdkc
If MS splits into two companies, I will be one happy guy. This way, MS' OS side, the one without Gates, would go happily on its way, migrating towards the future of Unix systems, while application-based MS would be left in the dust as the Unix revolution begins! Of course, the OS war would be something like: OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, Linux, Hurd, Solaris, OpenUNIX, HP-UX, and OS X/Darwin. But, since source code is wholly compatiable between these OSes, your choice won't matter, unless they don't use GCC or ICC. Meanwhile, Gates will try catching up with his applications, and would release, say, IE for MS-UX, binary only. Well, well, well, you just left out everyone running all the other sorts of Unix. Then Bill would have killed his own company. Granted, MS did create some standards, albeit crappy standards, but its time to move on to more powerful OSes.
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Ever since I install this I notice my new imac lcd sreen dims after inactivity. Has anyone else seen this?
Okay, The 10.1.5 broke the sleep function of my second monitor on my Beige G3/333.
Primary display: built-in ATI Rage Pro
Secondary display: 3DFX VooDoo 5/5500
I've got my monitiors set to power down after 10 mins of inactivity. The system itself is set to never sleep.
After waking the monitors up, the main display comes back as normal. The second one powers up to full power mode, but the screen stays black. Going to the monitor's control panel and setting "mirroring" to on enables display on the 2nd mon. Turning mirroring off returns to normal display.
Other than than, one sweet little upgrade (esp the 2d and QT accell on the Pro).
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