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Re:Can't switch 'til delicious add-on works
Delicious works if you install the Add-on Compatibility Reporter and enable it there.
I am currently using it on the release version and have been using it on RC1 and RC2 for some time. I haven't noticed any glitches yet. -
This is good news!
The visualization at http://glow.mozilla.org/ is really nice, and I like the fact that there are over 120 downloads every second!
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Re:Correct
Firefox has supported Cache-Control: public since late 2007.
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Re:Yeah right
Really? I've been told that the proprietary OpenGL drivers on Linux aren't that good quality, especially AMD's.
You might use Mozilla's list of Blocklisted Graphics Drivers as your guideline to the reliability of drivers in general at this time since they are currently going through it. They assert (in other sources as well) that only nVidia has a working OpenGL pipeline on Linux.
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Re:Not really running in a browser
> Anyone want to write a Gaussian Blur filter in
> ECMAScript, and run it on a four-million-pixel,
> 4-channel raster image?So like https://bug495499.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=380489 more or less, but doing gaussian blur instead of desaturate? The image there is a 4,096,000 pixel image (2560x1600); the desaturate filter takes 250ms on my machine in Firefox 4 (and that includes getting the bits out of the image and into JS and then back into image form).
Of course it's a bit slower in other browsers, but only by a factor of 2-4 or so over here.
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Re:Browser Addons
We already do. It's called RefControl.
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Re:Disabled people
Accessibility is a top priority for GNOME, KDE, Mozilla, OpenOffice and LibreOffice and many other major projects. Smaller projects often lack the resources to properly implement full accessibility. But then, so does the vast majority of smaller proprietary software.
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It is built in to Firefox 4
It is built in to Firefox 4 so soon you won't need an extension.
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Re:Microsoft has been changing
Did a quick check to amuse myself. Hmm, first 6 adds on every Bing search result are spam, pretty much guaranteed. Beyond that definitely more spam on Bing than on Google, oh wait, I am using https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/optimizegoogle/ to filter out crappy sites (including ebay). Well since you seem to be doing M$ advertising, is there a similar addon for Bing on IE to Optimize Google on Firefox.
Back on topic, I guess Ballmer's uncle is going to be really really disappointed to hear no more Zune, their number one customer. Using you phone to listen to music and watch streaming video is neat and convenient, apart from battery life and data download limits http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phone-battery-life-charts/.
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Protip
Use history.replaceState to avoid clogging people's browser history and effectively disabling their back buttons.
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Re:DirectX
What lunacy...I guess Linux didn't go anywhere either cause it's open source...or Chrome.....or Firefox.....
The Mozilla Foundation lives and dies by the add click.Where would Firefox be without the port to Windows?
Unrestricted net assets - Revenues and other support (2009)
Royalties: $101,537,000
Contributions: $50,000Note 2 - Summary of significant accounting practices
(e) Receivables
Receivables consist primarilly of amounts due from contracts with multiple search engine and information providers
Mozilla Foundation and Subsidiaries
As a desktop client OS, the traditional community-oriented Linux distribution may not be six feet under. But neither is it in the best of health:
Net Applications (March)
Linux 0.92%
iOS 1.8%
Android 0.5%
Operating System Market ShareStatcounter (March)
Linux 1%
Top 5 Operating SystemsW3Schools (January)
Win 7 31%
Up 31% since January 2009
Linux 5%
Up 3% since March 2003
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Experts Exchange is great, here's how to read itThere are three ways to read the meat in those experts-exchange links.
- Click on the Google Cache link and scroll to the bottom. After all the censored answers and a really large navigation bar, you'll see the real answers.
- Spoof your browser's User Agent to be Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html) using any of a plethora of extensions (I use Prefbar).
- Using the Greasemonkey add-on, install a userscript that does it for you, like Experts-Exchange Answers.
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Experts Exchange is great, here's how to read itThere are three ways to read the meat in those experts-exchange links.
- Click on the Google Cache link and scroll to the bottom. After all the censored answers and a really large navigation bar, you'll see the real answers.
- Spoof your browser's User Agent to be Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html) using any of a plethora of extensions (I use Prefbar).
- Using the Greasemonkey add-on, install a userscript that does it for you, like Experts-Exchange Answers.
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FlashVideoReplacer
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/flashvideoreplacer/ "Replace embedded flash videos and display them with a different plugin or standalone player, download or automatically redirect to WebM player when available."
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Re:Feature Bloat
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Re:Tabs!
Have a look at Tree Style Tabs. I can't live without it anymore. TST and Stylish are really the main things keeping me on Firefox these days.
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Re:If I wanted something that looked ugly like Chr
You can move tabs back on the bottom, restore the bookmarks bar, and change the Firefox button back to the menu bar. You can restore the statusbar with Status 4 Evar, and you can move and add any buttons you want with a simple right-click. All of these are very trivial to do, and if you don't like customizing your browser there's always Seamonkey, which is pretty much just Firefox without the shiny-ness and a more classic UI.
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Re:Now is the time *not* to try Firefox 4
The long beta cycle for Firefox 4 has paid off in this regard, and the majority of add-ons are already compatible. Pretty much every popular add-on already works well in Firefox 4.
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Re:Tabs!
Go grab Tab Mix Plus. It adds that feature, among others.
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Re:FF 4 is nice so far
I prefer the old buttons and liked having a status bar but i'm sure somebody will create add-ons to fix that.
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Re:Do not set
One small problem -- In order to register you must create an account... In order to create an account you must allow cookies (these pre-registration cookies serve as nonce values to help prevent spam).
I've got a better Idea: If you don't want cookies on your browser, don't enable them, those of us who aren't dumb know that cookies are useful.
User state must be maintained somewhere -- Cookies give state to the stateless HTTP protocol so you can "sign in" to this very website.Firefox > prefs > Privacy > Firefox Will : > Use custom settings for History
:Uncheck the "[x] Accept cookies from sites".
Less retarded individuals may leave cookies enabled, and instead uncheck "[x] Accept third-party cookies".
However, even the slightly knowledgeable individuals will note that this doesn't block flash cookies.
Back in the days before cookies we used the HTTP-REFERER header as well as the IP address and URL query portion (?USR=B4AC2.P3Y45) in links to "track" people so that they could stay logged in...
To disable your HTTP-REFERER header in Firefox: address-bar > "about:config"
filter "http.send", double click: "network.http.sendRefererHeader" and set the value to "0" (zero).
To disable websites from accessing your IP address or query parameters, simply press and hold Alt then press F4. (Mac: Option + W) -- This is actually the BEST way to keep websites from "tracking" you.
Seriously -- I've figured out ways to use cached JavaScript code, images, documents, style sheet text colors, the window size and position, the content size of the current window, the god damn USERAGENT string, and loads more to track people who disable cookies (Java Applets, Flash, ActiveX, auto-filled form contents, etc, Base64 encoded CSS images, ) Do you know why? Because idiots WANT to be tracked, (so they can log in), but they DON'T want to use Cookies!
These idiots that disable their cookies will call to complain that they can't log in, and when told to enable the damn cookies they fly off the handle because the media-fear-monger shit in their heads instantly reaches critical mass.
Fact: HTTP / HTML (the web) Was NOT originally designed to allow logins, or other nifty things like web-chat, web-mail, etc. It was supposed to be static. All the cool stuff you want to do has been hacked in -- many such features require user state, and a simple solution is to use cookies.
Don't get me wrong, there are harder solutions, but they all do the same damn thing: Store a bit a funky looking bit of data on your end to identify you when you make another connection. The web is free largely because of Advertising -- Disable 3rd party cookies won't keep a server from pasting your user token into the URL of the ad-server's file: SomeAds.com/affiliate/vc1030/?unique=YOUR_ID, disabling cookies doesn't disable the HTTP-REFERER header (that the embedded ads company will see).
Thus, the "no cooikes or text files" requirement is bogus -- HTTP-REFERER + GET query string == more than enough to track you server side (sans cookies). It's just harder... The ad server would create a mapping between the different sites unique user token and the internal data representing your data on the ad server. (I wrote such a program in 1999, all these techniques are already in use by many advertisers -- the cookies are just a bit of extra bonus data -- the "Sweet, I can save time on a database lookup" kind of icing on the cake.) Disabling cookies just makes it harder for you to use the web. For fuck's sake -- Get over the damn cookies! They have your IP address and the current time!
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Re:As long as they stick with that UI
They're freaking me out with making it go away, then bringing it back only it's broken, etc.
Agreed that taking it away sucked, but what is it about the new style that is 'broken'? I'm using FF4 beta 12 now and it seems to be working as intended - popping up for loading status messages or URLs when I hover over links.
And yeah, give me a 'clunky' (read: functional) UI any day over minimalist Chrome. The first thing I do with FF4 is configure large icons mode with icons and text, and add a bunch of buttons back in. And install my FF3 theme because the default FF4 theme seems dull and horrible to me.
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RC1 is not even out
If you don't see a folder for it, then it's not the final product.
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Re:I don't use Firefox for performance reasons...
Since I tried pentadactyl, firefox has become the only browser I can stand to use. The interface is worth the performance issues.
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Re:Wish they made it cheap
Do yourself a favour and install Firefox with the Fox Replace add-on. You can define a list of your pet peeve words (and it also has regular expression matching) so they are replaced by the words you want to see. Its not perfect and won't correct every dumb mistake and typo but it will do wonders to keep your blood pressure down.
I use it to auto-correct retards that write 'rediculous' instead of ridiculous and some others, but I also replace 'god' by 'superman' and 'christian/muslim' for pastafarian with hilarious results
:)Seriously, give it a go
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Re:Want to send email in Germany?
Starts to be the same crap everywhere - not only Germany. Look at the "bastion of freedom" (The United States) again and see how it really is.
Feels like the world of Max Headroom is going to be a paradise utopia soon rather than a dystopia.
Soon we will have blipverts... And stuff like AdBlock Plus will be illegal.
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Re:What an experience!
Crashes here too on ubuntu 11.04 alpha. I don't see an incident ID anywhere, but here's what it did tell me:
Add-ons: {d10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d}:1.3.3,{e4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781}:0.9.1,betterfacebook@mattkruse.com:5.300,{987311C6-B504-4aa2-90BF-60CC49808D42}:2.2,{D4DD63FA-01E4-46a7-B6B1-EDAB7D6AD389}:0.9.7.2,firegestures@xuldev.org:1.6.1,testpilot@labs.mozilla.com:1.0.6,{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}:4.0b12
BuildID: 20110227020049
CrashTime: 1299277082
EMCheckCompatibility: true
Email: xxxx
FramePoisonBase: 7ffffffff0dea000
FramePoisonSize: 4096
InstallTime: 1299093973
ProductName: Firefox
SecondsSinceLastCrash: 59
StartupTime: 1299277038
Theme: classic/1.0
Throttleable: 1
URL: https://demos.mozilla.org/
Vendor: Mozilla
Version: 4.0b12
This report also contains technical information about the state of the application when it crashed. -
Re:Facebook is not your photo storage.
Sites which recompress your pictures *usually* strip out EXIF data, I assume simply because it takes up space and they're trying to pack the image into as small a filesize as possible.
To verify, you could use one of a couple of EXIF viewers that can be installed as Firefox plugins (Exif Viewer, FxIF). Note that if a site offers multiple versions of the same image, you should check all of them (i.e. I'd check both the standard-resolution image that Facebook displays, and the high quality version that's available to download).
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Re:Facebook is not your photo storage.
Sites which recompress your pictures *usually* strip out EXIF data, I assume simply because it takes up space and they're trying to pack the image into as small a filesize as possible.
To verify, you could use one of a couple of EXIF viewers that can be installed as Firefox plugins (Exif Viewer, FxIF). Note that if a site offers multiple versions of the same image, you should check all of them (i.e. I'd check both the standard-resolution image that Facebook displays, and the high quality version that's available to download).
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Re:TiniUrl has a nice preview feature as well
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/long-url-please-mod/
According to the description it supports 182 short URL services.
(Works with Firefox 4 beta it he compatibility checking is disabled.)
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Re:Interesting link on the history of HTML5
Actually found out this was a better addon:
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Re:Advertisers/Spammers will love Firefox 4
Actually found out this was a better addon:
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Re:Crazy Flash-like shit is not content
Actually found out this was a better addon:
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Crazy Flash-like shit is not content
Look, look with your special eyes:
https://demos.mozilla.org/en-US/#dashboardI don't know what to do here. I don't even know what I'm looking at here. I move the mouse around the screen and things glow and whir and slide, but none of it makes any sense to my mind. HTML 5 apparently means "Hey now I can do that crazy shit I used to do with Flash, right in my HTML."
Yeah, and now instead of that crazy Flash shit being isolated to a little box of your page that I could disable, now your entire page is rendered a confusing mess of utter unusability to anyone over the age of 30.
When will web site designers learn that people don't come to their websites for their crazy Flash shit or really anything they do. They come to their web site for their CONTENT. Content doesn't mean what your web site designer does. Content means what's between the covers of a book. Content means a video. Content means user discussion boards.
Great technical browser implementation, guys. You're doing good work, but this crazy Flash-like shit shouldn't be the poster child for your work.
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Re:Interesting link on the history of HTML5
Hey, do you know you can just leave out all the fancy stuff and only view the real content ? It is all interpreted you know and you can make the browser interpreted it as you like. You can make a lot of stuff just disappear.
For example with this addon:
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Re:Web Sockets in Firefox 4
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Re:Depends...
Well, poop... seems that one's out of date. OTOH, there seems to be a lot of others out there as well
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Depends...
There are already a few third-party (for a fee) options out there, or if you have firefox, perhaps this add on for it may do the job for you.
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Re:What does Jetpack get you...
The forward-compatible API is still an unclearly-marked subset of the useful API, so unless you're writing something really simple it's not all that helpful. See for example this post and the surrounding thread to try to open a file picker.
Restartless add-ons are now available for old-style non-Jetpack extensions too, see boostraped extensions. Much of this was made possible by the effort to make Jetpack work, I believe.
Something like Jetpack has potential; unfortunately, it's being implemented by throwing out the good things about Firefox extension development along with the bad.
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Re:#2 position-- mulit-core scaling
And before someone chimes in and posts this saying that they're working on it, take a look again, that page hasn't been updated since May 2010.
I am afraid that page is out of date, I edited the 'Status' section of it now - thanks for pointing it out!
The status of multiprocess Firefox is that we have been working very hard at it, and made lots of progress. In fact Firefox Mobile is multiprocess already, you can run it right now and see that the UI remains responsive even if you load lots of tabs, JS heavy sites, etc. So that shows that rendering, networking, etc. etc. are ready for multiprocess.
But getting desktop Firefox to be multiprocess will take more time, since there is a lot more stuff to support there, in particular addons, developer tools, etc. The plan is to finish that stuff later this year. -
Re:Better Link
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Re:Plugin Support
Someone's beat me to it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=584064
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This mean the memory issues will get fixed?
Before you say that since it happens to you it must be my addons, it[1] happens with 1 tab open to about:memory in Safe Mode. The only thing left to do is try a clean profile, but if a dirty profile can make an idle Firefox eat all your ram that's still a bad bug.
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Re:#2 position-- mulit-core scaling
You have to be kidding. Firefox is faster and kicks the other browsers asses. This whole speed thing must have something to do with non-GNU/Linux platforms cause I'm just not seeing it go slow. A browser shouldn't need additional cores to run fast. This sounds like "me too" thinking. While it might improve certain things I'm extremely sceptical. Video is already being accelerated and having 10 tabs open is not something that slows Firefox down. Maybe you are on MS Windows and that has something to do with it.
No, not really.
It's a well-known fact that current versions of Mozilla only run plugins on a separate process, and that was new in Mozilla 3.6.4... Mozilla claims that it's still working on this for web content and graphics.
In other words Firefox is a single-process, single-threaded application on all platforms, except when launching plugins.
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Re:Plugin Support
If your extension doesn't work with 3.6, edit your install.rdf file and change the MaxVersion to 3.6 (or wildcard)
Nah. Just install the Add-on Compatibility Reporter plugin and help the beta effort. This add-on lets others run irrespective of the version, but then you can also rate the compatibility of all plugins and indicate if they work or not.
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#2 position-- mulit-core scaling
all they have to do is make firefox scale to multiple cores. There's no reason the UI from the current webpage I'm browsing should grind to a halt because I loaded 5 slashdot discussions in the background using middle-click. Both Chrome and Opera 11 have no problem handling this.
And before someone chimes in and posts this saying that they're working on it, take a look again, that page hasn't been updated since May 2010.
At the moment I couldn't care any less about javascript benchmark speed. I just want multicore scaling from Firefox and then I'll be happy.
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What does Jetpack get you...
that I don't already have? Just curious. I've looked at it a little, and it looks like building Plugins with javascript & HTML/CSS instead of pure XUL, but I'm already doing that with the next release of my plugin. It's easy enough to use the DOM to load custom HTML and insert it where you want. I've seen lots of these frameworks build up super complex stuff that'd be great if I was writing a complete application, but in the end it's just a plugin...
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Bugzilla link + vote
This is the relevant bug. The developers don't seem to think this is a serious issue. So feel free to upvote it.
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Re:Modern browser on retro OS?
Seems that there's some ways of mushing up Win98 to get FF3 working:
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I've actually had
people complain about sound quality of podcasts downloaded with my plugin, so I guess could see the use of it. I can't hear the difference, but I guess if you start with sources meant for 24-bit...