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Re:This isn't particularly new
If its an @msn.com address, particually with Hotmail, try and the associated bug report. I think it might be related.
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Re:That's odd......
Actually, I think you'll find Hotmail has more of a habit of losing non-spam messages.
Hotmail has another weird bug with firefox - some accounts (mostly @msn.com) have to log in twice. Here's a long forum post about it, here's a pretty bug report, and here's an easy fix. -
Re:But what about plug-ins such as Flash?
Try the IE tab extension.
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feeds
News feeds:
IE Blog - for keeping track of what MS is up to on the browser front
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/atom.xmlStandards Blog - not as many posts now days, was very important during the height of the ooxml/odf war
http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/backend/geeklog.rssI keep OSNews for completeness, but it is pretty useless - software news
http://osnews.com/files/recent.xmlAnandtech - hardware news and reviews
http://www.anandtech.com/rss/articlefeed.aspxArs Technica - tech news and commentary
http://arstechnica.com/index.rssxPhoronix - linux graphics news and info
http://www.phoronix.com/rss.phpLinux Weekly News
http://lwn.net/headlines/rssKDE announcements
http://www.kde.org/dotkdeorg.rdfOpen Source Software Planets:
http://planet.debian.org/rss20.xml
http://planet.fedoraproject.org/atom.xml
http://planet.ubuntu.com/rss20.xml
http://planet.gnome.org/atom.xml
http://planetkde.org/rss20.xml
http://planet.freedesktop.org/rss20.xml
http://planet.mozilla.org/atom.xml
http://planet.jabber.org/atom.xml
mostly software releases and XEP updates
http://planet.jabber.org/news/atom.xmlhttp://maemo.org/news/planet-maemo/atom.xml
environment feeds:
Good Pacific Northwest environmental news
http://www.sightline.org/daily_score/rssBest environmental news and discussion on the web
http://www.worldchanging.com/index.xmlI keep Treehugger for completeness, but I mark 90% of their posts as read without looking at them.
Really too "light green/consumer green" for me
http://www.treehugger.com/index.xmlother feeds:
Dive into Mark - not what once was, but good enough to keep around
http://diveintomark.org/feed/Loooong posts on software
http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/atom.xmlBruce Scheier knows Alice and Bob's shared secret
http://www.schneier.com/blog/index.rdfThe intersection of Science (especially Evolution), Liberalism, Atheism, and Squid
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/index.xml"Your comment has too few characters per line" - what a load of bull. Taco, I know this and the timer are supposed to cut down on spam, but I think they annoy legitimate posters more than they reduce spam. You should really reconsider these "features".
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Re:awesome bar = f u bar
Theres this code out somewhere that shows exactly how oldbar used to behave and this new code that could be modified to behave exactly like it used to either by
1) copy and paste of old code and bug fixing
2) rebuilding old code into new code and less bug fixing
3) building an extension to do thisso why don't you all STFU and do it?
hell you might not even have to go to firefox2 some of the early 3 alphas probably still had the old code in there. -
Re:awesome bar = f u bar
Theres this code out somewhere that shows exactly how oldbar used to behave and this new code that could be modified to behave exactly like it used to either by
1) copy and paste of old code and bug fixing
2) rebuilding old code into new code and less bug fixing
3) building an extension to do thisso why don't you all STFU and do it?
hell you might not even have to go to firefox2 some of the early 3 alphas probably still had the old code in there. -
The Daily Planets
http://planet.gnome.org/
http://planet.mozilla.org/
http://planet.ubuntu.com/
http://planet.i2p/ (only accessible through the i2p network) -
Re:awesome bar = f u bar
... For example, lots of people complain that typing "en" is no longer bringing up "en.wikipedia.org" as their first result.
At least for searches like Wiki, people should learn how to use Smart Keywords. ... -
The one thing that gets me...
about this release is the huge bug with the network home folders not working. I mean, come on guys, is it really that hard to test something like this in a Lin/Mac/Win environment that exists in virtually all of the corporate/academic world to see if this works. Granted the javascript performance is two to three times faster than v2, but if you release it in a state where I can't deploy it because you missed a bug in some library, it's a really hard sell to the PHB if the new whiz-bang version is fuxored.
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Re:awesome bar = f u bar
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Ad block
Would be great if I could install Ad Block onto this thing...
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Re:Why can't it be simple.
leetkey - this extension provides AES encryption/decryption of dynamic/static text in FF and TB.
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Re:Opera 9.50 is Also Out
... And the worst part is that you can't even change it!
...Erm..., themes?
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Re:Awesomebar?What could you do with the old address bar that you can't do now? Be reasonably sure what URLs would and, more importantly, *wouldn't* show up when you start to type. I only started allowing my browser to maintain any kind of history after discovering Stealther. For those who still don't, the awesomebar may be a problem.
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Re:Awesomebar?The other thing holding me back is firebug... does that have a 3.0 enabled version out yet? Here you go.
And I don't see what's so bad about the "awesomebar". It gets some time to get used to, and either way you should not reject Fx3 just because of that one feature. -
Re: Firebug for FF3
Is available, and has been for quite some time. You just need to click on the "releases" link on the http://www.getfirebug.com/ site. Or just go directly to the extension page: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843
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Re:Awesomebar?
Firebug ver 1.2 requires FF3.
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How to make the Awesomebar show only history
A lot of the complaints about the Awesomebar have been that bookmarks which have not been visited show up in the results. Luckily, there is now an extension to make the Awesomebar show history only.
Also, if you are not sure what the point of the Awesomebar is, Mike Beltzner recorded an informative 2-minute screencast showcasing what the Awesomebar can do.
Finally, Support Firefox Day is this Friday, which will include interactive video workshops and Q&A about the new bookmarks features. Several Mozilla developers will be in attendance, so it is a great chance to voice your opinions. The new bookmarks and history API is very flexible, so extensions will no doubt make it better.
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Re:Awesomebar?
Many, many users are complaining about the so-called "awesome" bar. Unfortunately, there is no way to completely restore the old no-nonsense location bar behavior. You can just approximate it with about:config settings and the oldbar extension.
Make your voice heard if you'd like the option to restore the old location bar behavior.
The Firefox team's feedback system is here.
If enough users complain, maybe this will get fixed. Or forked.
The location bar is for URLs, not searches through my bookmarks or wildcard searches through the titles of pages I visited last week.
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Re:Awesomebar?
One size does not fit all. Get the oldbar add-on.
"Oldbar makes the location (URL) bar look like Firefox 2. Specially designed for those that dislike the AwesomeBar."
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6227 -
dont bother - wait for 3.0.1
it doesn't even render pages on mozilla.org correctly: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1122
and https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/
(my friend downloaded it and says the above pages do not render right for him) -
dont bother - wait for 3.0.1
it doesn't even render pages on mozilla.org correctly: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1122
and https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/
(my friend downloaded it and says the above pages do not render right for him) -
Re:I wished archive.org stored even more stuffCombining a bookmarking / chaching service would be really handy. Install the Scrapbook add-on for Firefox, which does exactly that. You can save URLs, pages, sets of linked pages, and/or selected areas simply by right-clicking and selecting 'Capture'.
The pages are saved in a folder of your choosing, can be organized in a hierarchy and also searched and viewed using the add-on; It even has a feature to 'refresh' a saved paged from its URL, or just send you to the page's original URL.
Finally, it has a quick element editor that lets you remove page elements, add 'sticky' notes and keywords, and combine multiple pages into one. -
Re:Tried 3.0, downgraded back to 2.0
The URL bar is so damn annoying in 3.0.
I didn't like it either. However, I quickly found an extension, oldbar, that pretty much restores the old URL bar functionality.
Past that, FF3 is pretty damn nice, IMHO. JavaScript execution alone is so much better that the improvement in browsing speed reminds me of getting broadband for the first time.
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Doesn't work with FF3From a comment on its add-on page, emphasis mine: It appears the developers stopped supporting this in 2007. Among other things, this means it does not work with FF 3.0. http://code.google.com/p/foxtorrent/issues/list
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Re:Download Counter
You might not have searched enough. You may be interested in this plugin, which, to quote the page, is
... specially designed for those that dislike the AwesomeBar.
The memory & performance improvements are more than enough to convince me to upgrade. And personally I think the new location bar is a step up, but I can understand how others might dislike it. HTH. -
Re:I wished archive.org stored even more stuffCombining a bookmarking / chaching service would be really handy. WebMynd claims to do that; I haven't tried it myself though.
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Re:MD5s?
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Re:bittorrent ...
There is FoxTorrent, you know, an extension integrating BitTorrent client into Firefox. Doesn't support 3.0, though..
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Re:bittorrent ...
You might want to take a look at FoxTorrent (although sill not ported to Firefox 3)
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Re:Firefox Download Day
Obviously, the server's down. But I got through by going around to http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/firefox/
Direct link that work for me : http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US
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Re:Downloadand if you, for example, want to download firefox 4.0, you should change the link like so:
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-4.0&os=win&lang=en-US 404, they must have all been downloaded -- are there more due in stock? -
Re:DownloadSince not all of us use windows and want their system in english, let's decompose that link a bit:
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US
You select your version with the GET variables.
So, for other OS's:- Linux: change os=win to os=linux
- Mac: change os=win to os=osx
For other languages, you can substitute the language variable such as en-GB for British English, de for German and fr for French. Not all of them are up right now, but they will be soon. Do they have it in redneck (aka en-RN) or ebonic (aka en-G!)? -
Re:Download
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-11.0&os=mac&lang=eng-US/ This one goes to eleven
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Re:My findings...
You're wrong.
I'm typing this from Opera with 36 tabs open using ~155MB of RAM. These aren't all just small mostly text pages, either. They've got graphics and CSS and content and media...
Not to mention Opera actually stores a pre-rendered version of your history as to make navigating back and forth instant along with all sorts of other fun stuff, like hanging on to multiple closed tabs so you can just hit "Edit->Undo" and open them back up if you close them by mistake.
Firefox is just bloated. Always has been, probably always will be. I don't know why everyone's so damn excited about it... all they've really done in the latest release is make it more like Opera.
That stupid as fuck address bar thing? Been in Opera for a little while (was only officially released in 9.5). And actually supports searching the in-page text as well, as Firefox plans to implement eventually (fairly far down in the comments).
Speed? Opera has been pretty significantly faster than all these other browsers for a long time. One version of Opera or another holds the winning speed in almost every catagory across all the OSs tested (Windows, Mac, Linux).
Opera incudes a mail client, news reader, bittorrent client, a bunch of functionality only available in FF as plugins (mouse gestures, anyone?) and some I'm not even sure is available like tab thumbnail previews, full MDI and ACTUAL USEFUL TAB ORDERING. You'd be amazed how much time you can save when hitting Ctrl+Tab takes you to your most recently used tab instead of just whatever one happens to be next in the list. It also has the option to open new tabs next to your current one so that all of your related tabs will stay together.
All of this, and Opera's download is STILL smaller than Firefox's and it's STILL a faster browser and STILL has better standards compliance.
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Official count?
OK, so everyone is downloading the latest version of Firefox today to help beat the world record. I, like many of you, contributed my fair share by downloading a copy for Windows. But where is the official download count?
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Re:Download
I got mine from
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/win32/en-US/
last night, and as far as I'm able to tell (looking at help->"about mozilla firefox" and help-> "release notes" ) what I have is 3.0; not the RC.
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Direct links to mirrors
Direct links to win32, en-US, from the official mirrors:
http://mozilla.isc.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
http://pv-mirror01.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
http://mozilla2.mirrors.tds.net/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
http://pv-mirror02.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
http://mozilla.mirrors.easynews.com/mozilla/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
Other international sites (navigate to appropriate OS and lang)
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/
http://mozilla.ftp.iij.ad.jp/pub/mozilla/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/
http://mozmirror01.true.nl/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/
For more, see google cache of mirror list here:
http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:_PnqbgP1GpIJ:www.mozilla.org/mirrors.html+firefox+3+download+mirror&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
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Direct links to mirrors
Direct links to win32, en-US, from the official mirrors:
http://mozilla.isc.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
http://pv-mirror01.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
http://mozilla2.mirrors.tds.net/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
http://pv-mirror02.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
http://mozilla.mirrors.easynews.com/mozilla/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe
Other international sites (navigate to appropriate OS and lang)
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/
http://mozilla.ftp.iij.ad.jp/pub/mozilla/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/
http://mozmirror01.true.nl/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/
For more, see google cache of mirror list here:
http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:_PnqbgP1GpIJ:www.mozilla.org/mirrors.html+firefox+3+download+mirror&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
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Mirrors
It looks like the 3.0 release is available at all the usual mirrors. The only thing I'm unsure of is that the 3.0 install file is dated June 11th. Has this thing really been done for a week? Or maybe that's just the Win32-US-English version and they had to work on the other versions to have a simultaneous release?
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Re:Download - Mac OS X
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Re:Download
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Re:DownloadDownload Thanks for the direct link to the file. There are two bad things about the kick off...only starting downloads @ 10 AM PDT with the website itself being unreachable for the past hour or so. Great way to try to get a record when no one can connect to it to get the file...except for the link above.
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Re:FTP
I did a diff between the FTP install
.EXE and the one I got from here: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US and they were the same. YMMV. -
Re:FTP
Not to mention the EULA is dated May 2008. And it says RC3 specifically... But, this just in: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/firefox-3.1a1pre.en-US.win32.installer.exe
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Re:DownloadDownload That's the Release Candidate.. Not the final version...
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The mirrors have FF3
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Google cache of the Mozilla mirror list
I was able to download the release by going to the Google cache of the mirrors list. A little navigation required, but at least the server wasn't dead.
http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:_PnqbgP1GpIJ:www.mozilla.org/mirrors.html+firefox+3+download+mirror&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
The download from ISC - San Francisco for me was lightning fast.
Here's the link at ISC for the en-US release:
http://pv-mirror01.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe -
Direct Download-Day Links
The FTP links that have been posted DONT COUNT towards the download day stats.
The official links from download.mozilla.org are:
Win32 (exe):
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US
Linux (tar.bz2):
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
OS-X (dmg):
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=osx&lang=en-US
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Direct Download-Day Links
The FTP links that have been posted DONT COUNT towards the download day stats.
The official links from download.mozilla.org are:
Win32 (exe):
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US
Linux (tar.bz2):
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
OS-X (dmg):
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=osx&lang=en-US
happy downloading :-)