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Northrop Grumman To Develop Brain-Wave Binoculars

An anonymous reader writes "An AP wire reports that DARPA has granted a $6.7 million contract to Northrop Grumman to develop 'brainwave binoculars'. The binoculars will be built into a helmet, which will include EEG electrodes that will monitor the wearer's brain activity for patterns consistent with object identification/recognition. From what I can gather, the idea is that when you look at a far-off or partially obscured object without noticing it, your subconscious probably did notice it and tried, unsuccessfully, to identify it. The EEG in these binoculars would pick up on that kind of subconscious activity and draw the wearer's attention to the object in question. The goal is that these binoculars would be able to pick up on any object anywhere in the wearer's field of view, where a person can only pick up on things that he focuses both his eyes and his attention on. This delves into some very interesting territory: it would be an electronic device that uses human eyes to collect data, and even uses a human brain to partially process the data. Since it also passes its results back to the human providing the data and initial processing, it essentially adds a second processing loop in parallel to the wearer's visual system."

149 comments

  1. wow. just wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Northrop Grumman gets to make all the cool stuff. It just isn't fair...

  2. waste of taxpayer dollars by wiggles · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If this makes it past vaporware, I'll dance a jig.

    1. Re:waste of taxpayer dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      waste of taxpayer dollars (Score:2)

      If this makes it past vaporware, I'll dance a jig.

      Probably said at the onset of most of the DARPA projects, most breakthrough technologies in all fields of science really, that's kind of the point.

    2. Re:waste of taxpayer dollars by 4solarisinfo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If this makes it past vaporware, I'll dance a jig.

      This is probably said at the origins of almost all DARPA projects. That's their point.
    3. Re:waste of taxpayer dollars by X0563511 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That said, it seems one of the best ways to get a technology developed is to figure out how to kill people with it.

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    4. Re:waste of taxpayer dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Northrop Grumman built the lunar lander and the B-2 Stealth Bomber...as well as countless other fixed-wing aircraft (manned and unmanned).

      They build the world's most advanced aircraft carriers and attack submarines. They have divisions that build systems from the mundane to the insane. Example - the division in Reston, Virginia has been selling large-scale (up to 84") touchtable computer systems FOR YEARS...not IN years. They build any number of other cutting-edge sensor systems, high-energy defensive lasers, and other systems too black to discuss.

      They also don't announce things like this because someone in marketing thinks that it will look cool, garner attention, or suppress some other company from doing the same thing. They submit proposals to clients to fund the development and the clients only decide to use THEIR OWN money to fund it after reviewing NGC's plan, technology, key resources, and past performance...and then decided that the effort is low enough risk to warrant the investment.

      NGC doesn't announce vaporware. They announce that they have been selected by someone else once again to do what does not seem possible.

      Ask Neil Armstrong how he feels about Northrop Grumman.

    5. Re:waste of taxpayer dollars by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 1

      I know it's vaporware, you know it's vaporware, but who else does? Does the military? Are they doing this in the full knowledge that it does nothing more than siphon money to a friend in research? Or maybe the military doesn't know but the researcher is deliberately lying to the military. Or maybe everyone at some level knows that the whole thing is a scam but government officials, who won't look at the details, will just rubber stamp it. Either way, I'd love to know how these things work because I have a lot of bullshit ideas I'd like to sell to gullible victims.

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    6. Re:waste of taxpayer dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      BTW, the movie Apollo 13 shows a Grumman employee being somewhat of a weasel and Gary Sinise playing NASA astronaut Ken Mattingly being a hero. The fact is that Grumman employee Sam Greenberg was the individual on the ground who devised the scheme to route the power from the LM to the CM...not Mattingly...but I suppose it's easier to portray an astronaut as a hero and a contractor as a weasel.

      That said, Sam Greenberg was a hell of a guy...and was also responsible for a great gag at the time - he had Grumman create an invoice for $312,421.24 and had them send it to North American Rockwell (CM builder) for "towing fees" for bringing the CM (and crew) back home. Rockwell refused to pay...even though Sam built in a per mile discount for paying cash. :)

    7. Re:waste of taxpayer dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The AC above is like a parallel processing loop for 4solarisinfo's own brain...

    8. Re:waste of taxpayer dollars by k1e0x · · Score: 3, Funny

      Really..

      If they do get it working it would be like this..

      Subconscious: *LOOK* LOOK LOOK LOOK! look at the big .. blue thing .., I don't know what that is! look!
      Conscious: uhh.. that's a mountain..

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    9. Re:waste of taxpayer dollars by BountyX · · Score: 1

      Duke nuke'em forever already has these binoculars. there so behind.

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    10. Re:waste of taxpayer dollars by L7_ · · Score: 1

      Yet their touch table technology isn't owned by them, its a subcontractor. Look up Applied Minds or something, I forget the exact contractor.

      Northrop Grumman and all of the large scale defense contractors are moving away from basic R&D into buying small contractors and integration of subcontractor developed technology. To them, there is no money to be had in the 200-500k research, they want multi-year, multi-million dollar contracts. That's why you hear something like this, and its not NOC developing the technology, its NOC being the middle man to small scale (100 person-ish) companies, and branding it with their name just because they had the right ex-lieutenant to get the money instead of the small company.

    11. Re:waste of taxpayer dollars by street+struttin' · · Score: 1

      Was it really Northrop Grumman, or one of the bajillion subsidiaries that the conglomerate known as Northrop Grumman is made up of? Is there even anything like a specific Northrop grumman any more? Or is it just a board of directors bossing a bunch of subsidiaries around? Because that's the way it was 4 years ago when I left (after TRW was bought out by them).

  3. Sounds Just Like ... by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... those x-ray glasses they used to sell in the backs of comic books.

    What do you want to bet that the only thing these binoculars register is 'tits'.

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    1. Re:Sounds Just Like ... by Shotgun · · Score: 5, Funny

      What do you want to bet that the only thing these binoculars register is 'tits'.

      And how would that be a waste of money?

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    2. Re:Sounds Just Like ... by wattrlz · · Score: 1

      Why pay for it when you can get it for free?

    3. Re:Sounds Just Like ... by ins0m · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why pay for it when you can get it for free? You must be new here.
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    4. Re:Sounds Just Like ... by SpyPlane · · Score: 1

      In some cases it will certainly get rid of "don't ask don't tell".

      "Why does Henry's Binoculars keep registering other soldier's asses?"

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    5. Re:Sounds Just Like ... by dwater · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > You must be new here.

      New anywhere, I'd say. ...or a woman..

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    6. Re:Sounds Just Like ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      New anywhere, I'd say. ...or a woman..

      Hey! I resemble that statement!

  4. Necromunger scope? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does this remind anyone of the Necromunger Scope beings from Chronicles of Riddick?

  5. Future press release. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Servicemen reprimanded for zooming in on young women's breasts. One of the servicemen was quoted as saying, "It's the damn sub-conscious link! I can't do anything about it!" Defense department reevaluating binoculars.

    1. Re:Future press release. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      However if you you think you are at risk of being shot at, your mind takes a different priority. Sex is usually at #2 after imeadeate survival.

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    2. Re:Future press release. by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wait, 9 of them zoomed in on the woman's breast, but why is this 10th one looking at the guy beside her?

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    3. Re:Future press release. by PawNtheSandman · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't ask, don't tell.

    4. Re:Future press release. by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 4, Funny

      However if you you think you are at risk of being shot at, your mind takes a different priority. Sex is usually at #2 after imeadeate survival.

    5. Re:Future press release. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      threat?

    6. Re:Future press release. by dlevitan · · Score: 3, Funny

      New defense tactic: send out naked, beautiful women. Shoot the Americans while they can't see anything else.

    7. Re:Future press release. by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      However if you you think you are at risk of being shot at, your mind takes a different priority.

      Unless you're in THIS situation...

      ...and thanks for the mammaries! ;)

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    8. Re:Future press release. by smoker2 · · Score: 1

      Defense department reevaluating binoculars. Followed patiently by Homeland Security, the IRS and a Walmart rep.
    9. Re:Future press release. by edwebdev · · Score: 5, Funny

      This tactic would work even without subconscious binoculars!

  6. Oh i'm not sure if this is such a good idea - by Gat0r30y · · Score: 1

    would pick up on that kind of subconscious activity and draw the wearer's attention to the object in question I'm not sure if I could handle that, my subconscious is pretty messed up.

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  7. Alternative use: by Hyppy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Think about using this in interrogations.

    Interrogator: "Do you recognize these photos of bomb making materials?"
    Suspect: "No, no I don't."
    Interrogator: "Liar! Our brain wave scanner says you do! Off to the waterboard with you!"

    1. Re:Alternative use: by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "Interrogator: "Liar! Our brain wave scanner says you do! Off to the waterboard with you!"

      Waterboards are crude (not that applied stress coupled with sophisticated analysis of interrogation results is a bad idea) and the ideal would be to bypass the need to stress subjects at all.

      If responses to imagery can be evaluated without stressing the subject, that well get more information. The enemy subjects experience (pain, pleasure, neutral) is a side issue.

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  8. I think the question on every ./er's mind is... by jockeys · · Score: 3, Interesting

    can your brain be made to run Linux?

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    1. Re:I think the question on every ./er's mind is... by bsDaemon · · Score: 5, Funny

      So long as you don't try and reformat with ReiserFS -- I hear that's a little dangerous.

    2. Re:I think the question on every ./er's mind is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used my last two mod points to mod this +1 Funny, and then -1 Bad Taste.

    3. Re:I think the question on every ./er's mind is... by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 3, Funny

      Only to spouses. Only to spouses.

    4. Re:I think the question on every ./er's mind is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where exactly is this dotslash forum you're talking about?

    5. Re:I think the question on every ./er's mind is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brubuntu?

    6. Re:I think the question on every ./er's mind is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Liar. You can't mod the same post twice.

  9. Oh no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The important question: Can it see through tin-foil hats?

  10. Oh Wow, Man... the Images by Stanistani · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From reading the short article, it looks like a method to take images the brain filters out as unimportant, and bring them up to the conscious level.

    Problem: if you do this, wouldn't this clutter your view with unimportant images, or alternatively cause cognitive confusion? A person with this device attached literally couldn't trust their eyes anymore.

    Sounds like Mescaline.

    1. Re:Oh Wow, Man... the Images by Gat0r30y · · Score: 1

      Sounds like Mescaline. sounds like awesome to me.
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    2. Re:Oh Wow, Man... the Images by Shotgun · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your the guy sitting on top of the HumVee. You're job is to continuously scan for suspicious activity. A mind numbingly boring job for the most part.

      I would expect this to give the scanner's mind something to do, bringing their attention to much more activity. Most of which will be subsequently ignored, but occassionally it might make all the difference.

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    3. Re:Oh Wow, Man... the Images by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like Mescaline. Yep, sounds like a hell of a lot of fun!
      Dude, did you see that strange object over there? ........
    4. Re:Oh Wow, Man... the Images by georgewilliamherbert · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's an old saying, along the lines of "To see something, you must look at it, and then you must see it."

      A lot of what you look at you could match / comprehend properly but don't. In many cases, parts of the brain used for the pattern recognition do fire, but the process doesn't complete (due to overload, fatigue, etc).

      Having something mechanical flag those for you will help with the final seeing part.

      Of course, it has to be tuned right. A lot of the brain's pattern match stuff fires on things which aren't a real pattern. Every edge is autodetected early in the processing, etc. I don't know how wide the actual useful range for this is, where fatigue or overload will prevent the last couple of steps but enough happened that one can meaningfully statistically say "you should look at that again" to the person in the loop...

    5. Re:Oh Wow, Man... the Images by JerryLove · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Agreed: As described this device would seem to bring specific attention to everything in your field of vision you didn't take the time to try to identify.

      More useful, in my opinion, would be one of the three other possabilities:
      1) Auto zoom/focus on anything you attempt to focus on.

      2) Perform its own pattern/image recognition and attempt to highlight things which it deems potentially important (not just everything you see).

      3) Create an artifical focus (flat focus) for the field of vision (I suppose this would not need to read brainwaves, and I'm not sure if that would be helpful or cluttering).

  11. Feedback by spungo · · Score: 1

    Is there not a risk of weird feedback, and the wearer's head eventually exploding like that bloke in "Scanners"?

  12. FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one welcome our helmet wearing overlords.

  13. Sweet by sneakyimp · · Score: 1

    I bet master chief's got one of those.

  14. Sounds a little overhyped by Bombula · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article may make this sound a bit too original, but it is nevertheless extremely cool. While it's certainly a fascinating combination of thought-recognition, object-recognition and Augmented Reality, it is not the first implementation of any of those things - but it IS really exciting to suppose that thought recognition could be used to help filter noise out of a detail-rich image field and improve AI object-recognition. How well the AR will work, well I guess we'll see - the military has had pretty good AR in their HUDs for a long time. But we're finally starting to see some cool AR in consumer tech too. In fact, there was just an article about an iPhone hard hack this morning implementing it over on digg. Definitely worth checking out.

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    1. Re:Sounds a little overhyped by slashflood · · Score: 1

      there was just an article about an iPhone hard hack this morning implementing it over on digg [vimeo.com].
      This is not an iPhone.
  15. future war tech scares me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Technology in the Muslim-West war will be the stuff of nightmares.

  16. Can you imagine.... by sherpajohn · · Score: 1

    Looking through these and watching Natalie Portman covered in hot grits, running Linux on a Beowulf cluster? What would you look at and what would it keep reminding you that you noticed but weren't focusing on?

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  17. Ad block by e03179 · · Score: 1

    Would be great if I could install Ad Block onto this thing...

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865/

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  18. The important questions by omar.sahal · · Score: 1

    1.Can this help me if I am drunk, and am looking to ascertain if a lady will be a suitable partner.
    2.I am cross eyed! Will it effect its performance ?

    1. Re:The important questions by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      I've got amblyopia. My guess is it would work fine - my brain knows to ignore that eye (I had a lazy eye, and they didn't fix it right til too late), so this thing would know too, right??

  19. false positives? by Alexis+Goyet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember reading about the research behind that; that the "subconscious" detected things quicker than the conscious human. But if I could find it again, I'd like to see the details of the testing.

    My guess is that the time between subconsciously and consciously recognizing something is used for verifications. So you get quicker results in the case where the image is, in fact, what you are asked to recognise, but you'd get false positives in the other cases.

    I mean, recognizing threats is pretty important, evolution-wise. Since this device just takes existing data from the brain and feeds it back in, it's hard to believe it would be of any help, or we would have evolved the same thing.

    1. Re:false positives? by SydShamino · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Since this device just takes existing data from the brain and feeds it back in, it's hard to believe it would be of any help, or we would have evolved the same thing. The system we evolved was "good enough" to get us to age 30 or so and pass on our genes. It's not necessarily good enough to recognize someone on the horizon with a shoulder-mounted RPG launcher pointed at you. Sure, we can be trained to recognize the shapes and shadows which indicate that, but then we have to look at it and focus for a second to consciously realize what we're seeing.

      Our brains are incredibly good at parallel pattern matching. We can see patterns - real or spurious - in almost anything. But those thousands of parallel pattern matching units have to be funneled through a single consciousness to be useful. If a computer can sort through the synapses, find the ones that are looking to match "man with RPG in the distance", and figure out when they fire, it can perhaps bring something up on the display faster than the person can. Computers, after all, can process a small number of things faster than we can. They just can't process as many complex things in parallel.

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    2. Re:false positives? by maxume · · Score: 1

      I seem to remember seeing research that showed that there is object and movement detection that goes on before conscious 'seeing'.

      It will be interesting to see if they get anywhere with the machine recognition.

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    3. Re:false positives? by shadowofwind · · Score: 1

      If a computer can sort through the synapses, find the ones that are looking to match "man with RPG in the distance", and figure out when they fire, it can perhaps bring something up on the display faster than the person can. Computers, after all, can process a small number of things faster than we can. They just can't process as many complex things in parallel. No such device will be able to 'sort through the synapses' - it won't have that kind of access. At best it can detect that something was noticed. Furthermore, given a detection, the human is (in my opinion) still much better at recognizing what it is, even subconciously. Although computers do process certain types of problems faster and better than humans, that does not include this type of pattern matching, even for a single shape.
    4. Re:false positives? by spectro · · Score: 1

      Your mind perceives much more information about your surroundings is amazing. We are "blinded" by our 5 senses we "ignore" what some people call six-sense. Let's say you have a leak somewhere in your house, you could be guided under hypnosis to point the exact source even if it is 3 feet under an area of your yard you never walk through.

      And before some skeptic replies to this laughing, there was an episode of mythbusters where they actually confirmed you can get an amazing amount of detail about an scene under hypnosis.

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    5. Re:false positives? by Plutonite · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's a good point, but don't you think there are reasons that make it practical for our conscious efforts to be focused on one problem/issue at a time? Apart from the fact that our sentience dictates much of how we process data (e.g we recall something from our memory that looks similar..etc), our sentience also "learns" to prioritize the objects on which to focus. If you're driving at high speed at a critical point and something catches your eye only slightly and you ignore it, it may be good that you do that. Similarly, if there are too many of these guys with RPGs around(battlefield non-ambush situation), maybe you are (correctly) focusing on the ones that are nearer to you, rather than the ones that the computer would politely be pointing out if it were picking up your mind-debris.

      I think it will be very difficult for them to strike a balance between informativeness and harmful distraction.

    6. Re:false positives? by Kristoph · · Score: 1

      The question I have here is why don't they just attach a helmet mounted camera (or two) to a computer that can identify people and just paint them in a HUD the soldier is wearing.

      The camera's could be infrared too so they could 'see' much more easily and in the dark.

      Also, if the soldier was connected to some sort of network to command and control they would give them better situational awareness and they could feed friend/foe identification to all soldiers on the battlefield.

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    7. Re:false positives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I mean, recognizing threats is pretty important, evolution-wise. Since this device just takes existing data from the brain and feeds it back in, it's hard to believe it would be of any help, or we would have evolved the same thing."

      Not necessarily. We have a highly evolved subconscious threat detection system, but we haven't had time to evolve identification patterns for modern military weapons. Those are the patterns this system would be looking for and bringing to the attention of the conscious mind.

    8. Re:false positives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tokyo, June 16, 2008 - Researchers at RIKEN's Laboratory for Human Brain Dynamics have been successful in understanding how the brain's spatiotemporal response changes, depending on whether a person is paying attention or not, even when viewing or listening to the same stimuli. The research was presented in the latest edition of Neuron (June 12).
      www.riken.jp/engn/r-world/info/release/press/2008/080612/epress_080612.asx
      www.hbd.brain.riken.jp/index.htm

    9. Re:false positives? by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, we're talking about binoculars, I'd assume you wouldn't be using them when you aren't trying to find something in the distance.

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    10. Re:false positives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Since this device just takes existing data from the brain and feeds it back in, it's hard to believe it would be of any help, or we would have evolved the same thing.

      Or maybe we did evolve the same thing. There's a thing called 'blindsight': some people are blind because of damage to their visual cortex, but when prompted they still show some ability to guess what's in front of them, detect movement etc.

      What this device is supposed to do sounds a little like what the (undamaged) visual cortex does for us - it raises an unconscious stimulus above the threshold of consciousness.

    11. Re:false positives? by street+struttin' · · Score: 1

      If it weren't for policies dictating how we conduct ourselves during war, we could all just use a quake-like FPS strategy and blast everything that moves. I bet with the money saved by NOT developing brainwave monitoring binoculars, we could afford LOTS of ammo.

    12. Re:false positives? by Crazyswedishguy · · Score: 1

      At best it can detect that something was noticed. Precisely. I think the point is that it will bring your attention to something that you subconsciously noticed but didn't consciously process. That way you can take a second look at it and determine how to deal with it.

      I'm wondering if it would bring lots of useless stuff to your attention and just give an information overflow. There's a reason we're applying a sort of filter. This would somewhat result in eliminating that filter. It may bring important stuff to your attention, but it might also risk distracting you unnecessarily.
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  20. In other news by Jawnn · · Score: 1

    Iomega has applied for a DARPA grant to develop a digital brain interface that will allow the subject to store in his noggin as much as 80 (160, with a doubler) gigabytes of sensitive data.

    1. Re:In other news by PawNtheSandman · · Score: 1

      Too bad the only person who can recover said data is a friggin dolphin.

  21. Recursion issues abound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Guy wearing binoculars notices some object
    Binoculars sense this and draw attention to object by putting some kind of HUD symbol on screen
    Guy wearing binoculars notices HUD display object
    Binoculars sense this and draw attention to object by putting some kind of HUD symbol on screen
    Guy wearing binoculars notices HUD display object
    Binoculars sense this and draw attention to object by putting some kind of HUD symbol on screen
    Guy wearing binoculars notices HUD display object
    Binoculars sense this and draw attention to object by putting some kind of HUD symbol on screen
    ...
    Binoculars and/or Guy's brain explodes
    ???
    Profit

    1. Re:Recursion issues abound by Entropius · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Profit

      The issue is that with the current state of DARPA and US military "research", you can put pretty much anything in front of this line (including as many lines of ??? as you want) and it'll still happen.

    2. Re:Recursion issues abound by dwater · · Score: 1

      My first thought was similar...what about some sort of positive feedback loop? Could be mind blowing.

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    3. Re:Recursion issues abound by revengebomber · · Score: 1

      1. Build robust military telecommunications network in case the commies nuke us.
      2. ???
      3. ???
      4. ???
      5. Profit!

      Doesn't seem like much of an "issue" to me.

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    4. Re:Recursion issues abound by grahamd0 · · Score: 1

      Except that DARPA and the US military aren't profit-seeking organizations.

      They drink from an essentially boundless well of cash. They have other goals which you may or may not agree with, but profitability is *not* one of them.

    5. Re:Recursion issues abound by Entropius · · Score: 1

      Everyone points to ARPANET as an example of "see, military R&D does produce useful things!"

      I call shenanigans. While I wasn't alive at the time, the concept of having computers talk to each other, and getting those computers to automate the routing of messages, surely would have been developed in the private or academic sector as soon as it was useful to do so. It's not a terribly outlandish concept, after all.

      DARPA did it first because they were interested in a particular kind of robustness, not the efficiency of an automated decentralized communications network. But once computers developed a little further such that networking computers together would produce a gain in efficiency (i.e. email being more efficient than telegraphy), I imagine the academic/commercial sectors would have set up something very similar to ARPANET.

    6. Re:Recursion issues abound by Entropius · · Score: 1

      No, but profit certainly *is* the goal of the contractors who lobby Congress to give money to DARPA. DARPA themselves, whatever that means, doesn't care about profit ... but the people at Northrop Grumman certainly do, and they've got a large amount of influence when it comes to allocating money in Washington.

  22. don't get how it works ?? by KernelMuncher · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So what if you're looking at an enemy tank and some bird 100m behind it starts flying around. Do the binoculars automatically refocus on the bird even though you don't want them to ?

    1. Re:don't get how it works ?? by mea37 · · Score: 1

      I would assume that if you're watching a specific known subject from a distance, you turn this feature off.

    2. Re:don't get how it works ?? by Boronx · · Score: 1

      No, they don't. They stay focused on the tank.

  23. Here's a link to NGES's press release by fintler · · Score: 3, Informative
    1. Re:Here's a link to NGES's press release by fintler · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually that's the product page. The following is the actual press release:

      http://www.es.northropgrumman.com/news/2008/06/144249_Northrop_Grumman-Led_Te.html

  24. YORE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    You're the guy sitting on top of the HumVee. Your job...

  25. The Company is Formulaic by rhinokitty · · Score: 1

    Northrop Grumman is always developing things like this in prototype, their entire business model is based on trying to sell the US Military things they don't need.

  26. Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They can't monitor your 'subconscious' at all. Do some google searching for neural interface devices if you want details.

    Here's a brief rundown on this tech:
    You have to train the software to recognize patterns that happen when you perform a physical action. After it learns that pattern, it is easy for you to learn how to generate that pattern without the movement, or even the intent of movement.

    Essientially, it is the use of Bio-feedback to train yourself how to trigger the software. It is all active on the human's part, not some sort of 'mind-reading' device.

  27. More by misterhypno · · Score: 2, Interesting

    garbage to hang on a GI that will distract him, or her, visually, at critical moments and which will run out of battery power at the worst possible times as well.

    Remember Heinlein's comment about combat gear - it has to be easy enough for a grunt to use so that someone equipped with something simpler, like, say a rock, who then comes up from behind the soldier using the hardware and bashes his brains in while he's trying to read a vernier.

  28. Gene Roddenberry's impact on technology continues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Borg must be so proud....

  29. Already done, hooked to one like this once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ive been monitores with this.

    Its annoying they know exactly what you are thinking, and where your eyesight goes.

    They also know the ammounts of energy your brain is using (i.e. for making a large concatenation of ideas in the learning process).

    its used in acreditation process for working for the state or some major clans.

    ugly.

  30. Too much information? by Five+Bucks! · · Score: 3, Insightful

    On looking at any scene the human brain must catagorise thousands and thousands of schemas and frameworks while trying to determine objects of interest in that scene. Clearly most of the things the brain identifies are not of value and the schema is not raised to high-level consciousness.

    When you step out of your front door every morning, the brain would identify squirrels, grass, hose on the lawn, a car with four tires, a motorcycle, the sun, clouds, milkman (ad nauseum)... If the wearer of this helmet were to be interested only in the newspaper on the step, what would stop the helmet from identifying every other object in view?

    Basically, there's so much information in the world, how can a helmet determine that the terrorist in the bush is more important than the cat in the bush? They're both potentially threatening.

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    1. Re:Too much information? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called "Heuristics" - check it out on Wikipedia or something. The helmet would determine the terrorist in the bush from the cat in the bush because we could preprogram it to only look for potential enemies. And then, drawing attention to something doesn't have to be distracting to do so, maybe a small red outline around the object, so that objects of potential interest would be outlined in a thin red line, making them easier to pick up. If you know what they are, you can still continue to not pay attention to them, but if you don't, it gives you a spot to scrutinize. I'm sure all of these concerns will be considered - Maximize ease of use, minimize false positives, accurately predict potential threats - I hear the military is pretty good at this kind of stuff.

    2. Re:Too much information? by Five+Bucks! · · Score: 1

      Not sure why you would post as AC... maybe it's your subconscious telling you not to let the world know you live in a comic book fantasy.

      How can a machine -- reading the output of an EEG -- determine 'Cat' from 'Terrorist' which "would be outlined in a thin red line, making them easier to pick up."

      Snake? SNAAAAAAAAKE!!

      C'mon....

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    3. Re:Too much information? by grahamd0 · · Score: 1

      ...how can a helmet determine that the terrorist in the bush is more important than the cat in the bush? They're both potentially threatening. What are you, a first-level wizard?
  31. Training the mind or confusing it by jovetoo · · Score: 1

    It would be interesting to know if this would not just train the brain to warn you in those cases too. You are creating what could be considered a correcting feedback loop.

    The question is, where do you make your brain draw the line and will it not teach the brain to just turn off all filters...

  32. Already exists: by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2, Informative
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  33. Prerequisites... by DirtySouthAfrican · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...learn to think in Russian.

    1. Re:Prerequisites... by soliptic · · Score: 2, Funny

      In Soviet Russia, binoculars focus you?

  34. Where's Waldo? by Cruciform · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's right Waldo, you can run but you can't hide!

  35. My tin-foil hat buisness... by Cherita+Chen · · Score: 1

    Sweet! This may help me in soliciting investment capital for my tin-foil hat business.

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  36. Pro-Spam filter by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    ... this particular kind, extract the spam and forces you to eat it, specially after your built-in, 1 million years (?) into development, antispam filter discarded it.

    If anything, will be useful to understand more how and why our perception process discard things. But maybe even walking wearing that things could prove being very hard.

  37. X-ray glasses by mollog · · Score: 3, Funny

    Finally, X-ray glasses that actually work.

    As a kid, I sent in my money for the x-ray glasses on the back of the comic in my bubble gum. What a rip-off. Maybe I'll finally get a pair that work.

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  38. Yes Sir, I think they're all dead... by MRe_nl · · Score: 1

    BRAINWAVE COUNT (0)

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  39. Darwin says... BZZZT! by goodmanj · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The primate brain evolved in a situation where noticing hidden things was kind of important. Didn't see that shape in the grass? Oops, it was a skulking lion, you're dead, return genome to sender. We're the product of millions of years of life-or-death vision tests, and as a consequence, we're pretty good at it.

    This device is based on the idea that some part of your brain might notice a hidden thing, but doesn't bother to tell the rest of you so you can react. This is evolutionary suicide. I'd have a hard time coming up with a trait that would be naturally selected out of the gene pool faster.

    If this device worked, anyone who could use it would have gone extinct long ago.

    1. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by X0563511 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You have to filter, otherwise the signal/noise ratio leaves us in a worse state than not noticing. This looks like it might help negate an overly-zealous filter.

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    2. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something the article fails to point out is that these binoculars would potentially increase the recognition time of objects. While the human brain is very good at recognizing a pattern, a misplaced object, etc., it sometimes does it much slower than is now needed.

      For instance, the "double-take". Since I first read about these a few months ago, I began to realize how often we do this. You'll be turning your head, look right over something, keep turning, then you realize that what you just glanced over was important and you shift your attention back. This happened just last night when I cat approached me in my garage from the border of my peripheral vision. At first I jumped from the movement, but about half a second later my mind knew it was a cat before looking again.

      These binoculars would attempt to reduce that time drastically. And all this talk of Darwin: weapons and threats that we've invented in the past couple hundred years far outpace evolution. Those were lions (or any other predator far slow than a bullet, jet, whatever) 2000 ft away running towards you. Today these are threats with near-instant strike weaponry where half a second can mean life or death. And if you're touting this evolutionary suicide - what are your thoughts on vaccines, and many modern medicines in general? Should we have let Polio kill hundreds of millions or billions of people rather than eradicating it, in hopes that it will somehow force us to evolve? IMO, human evolution is going backwards - just look at reproduction rates and education. It only takes a slight statistical offset to encourage evolution - and the scales are certainly tilted more than slightly against intelligence folks now. Regardless of how you feel about that, it seems like you're worshiping evolution as some sort of religious law that humans must abide by.

    3. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OOh, so you automatically notice EVERYTHING, all the time. Never miss anything. I am impressed.

    4. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by Sun+Chi · · Score: 1

      Most lions can't kill you faster than the speed of sound from hundreds of feet away.

    5. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or *should* have. Maybe they should make all the generals wear them?

    6. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by goodmanj · · Score: 1

      Point taken. Let's go for a walk in the savanna, blindfolded. I'll let you go first.

    7. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Oooh, can I volunteer?

      Let me just put on my sneakers so I can run faster.

      Yes, I know I still won't be able to outrun the lion. But I'll be able to outrun you.

      --
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    8. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could be that as the soldier subconcious wish to flee, it's what get promoted to the counscious and threats get less chances to be processed.

      As the google can see what the subcounscious do, it can bypass that subcounscious censorship/filtering and put objectives back onto the conscious.

      I guess that if that soldier wished to fight, he would not really need these google as, anyway, it would be someone quite trigger happy.

    9. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by Sun+Chi · · Score: 1

      It is an arms race.

      They use camouflage or hide in distracting surroundings, possibly a long way away. You get electronics that help identify things that you are not biologically inclined to identify.

      By using our greater intellect we can be better at both hiding and spotting than anything born in a million years.

      Tell you what, I'll take a modern assault rifle and you can take along anything you biologically grew from millions of years of evolution.

    10. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Threats on the modern battlefield haven't had time to influence the evolution of our visual system. The whole idea behind this system is to *prevent* natural selection...

    11. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by Prune · · Score: 1

      This has already been addressed by another poster. I suggest you read previous comments in a topic before posting an objection that has already been covered.


      SydShamino wrote in post #23877239

      The system we evolved was "good enough" to get us to age 30 or so and pass on our genes. It's not necessarily good enough to recognize someone on the horizon with a shoulder-mounted RPG launcher pointed at you. Sure, we can be trained to recognize the shapes and shadows which indicate that, but then we have to look at it and focus for a second to consciously realize what we're seeing. Our brains are incredibly good at parallel pattern matching. We can see patterns - real or spurious - in almost anything. But those thousands of parallel pattern matching units have to be funneled through a single consciousness to be useful. If a computer can sort through the synapses, find the ones that are looking to match "man with RPG in the distance", and figure out when they fire, it can perhaps bring something up on the display faster than the person can. Computers, after all, can process a small number of things faster than we can. They just can't process as many complex things in parallel.

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    12. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, my thoughts exactly. This device is idiotic at best, at least from the perspective of an individual. It creates echo of the data that your brain already deemed unimportant at the expense of the stuff that matters. I guess the soldier of today on the field is ever more expendable... This conclusion shouldn't be a surprise after Iraq I guess. I wouldn't wear this helmet.

    13. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by bgackle · · Score: 1

      The systems we evolved were specialized to detect dangers that could kill from an arms length away. We would probably disregard predators at 200 meters, since they were simply not a threat, even if they did trip the pattern matcher circuits. The sorts of threats that soldiers need to deal with are nothing like the sorts of threats that instinct prepares us for.

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    14. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by sp332 · · Score: 1

      Look, it's already been verified that this happens, the only question is whether it can be usefully harnessed.

      The facts don't fit your theory. Therefore, your theory is wrong.

      (Note to mods: I'm not bashing evolutionary theory, I'm bashing parent's completely half-assed, uninformed, knee-jerk criticism.)

    15. Re:Darwin says... BZZZT! by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

      I think this design is actually more important with regard to the speed of recognition. In other words, your subconscious brain registers precursors of the identification of an object (or partial object /pattern in the case of camouflage) - and this helmet picks up on those precursors causing a marker to appear in the hud pointing to the object before you would normally be conscious of it.

      Essentially it creates a jump instruction in the identification functionality of the brain, allowing the user to bypass the full assembly of a clear identification prior to bringing it to the fore.

      I see this as both useful, and potentially dangerous. On the one hand, the user of this device would have a fraction of a second advantage - which might spell the difference between life and death. On the other hand, the risk short circuiting the brain's identification mechanism runs the risk of providing false positives - which may lead to collateral damage or friendly fire. Users would have to be trained to deal with this problem before being released into the wild.

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  40. MGS4 Rip Off by mrsuge · · Score: 1

    Same concept of Snakes "Snake Eye Patch" Maybe it will work the same and tell me where all the Playboys are in a room.

  41. Outside the deflector shield by amliebsch · · Score: 1

    This should make it much easier to spot imperial walkers on the north ridge.

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  42. Scope by nickname29 · · Score: 1

    This may be off topic. I think that an auto-zoom telescope would be cool â" when you look at something far of, your scope focuses until the object it clear.
    My optometrist does something similar â" he asks you to focus at an object while he changes the lenses. He does this automatically by looking at how much the muscles in my eyes strain. If you could do that automatically with a little pattern recognition magic you will hit pay dirt!

  43. Firefox the movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clint Eastwood's FIREFOX hasn't played on TV in a while has it?

    This is news?

    I was thinking what a great way to raise money it is to keep secrets and then keep getting refunded for projects that already exist. lol.

  44. Why? Al Gore invented it already. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Didn't Al Gore go on an inventing binge and invented the internet, the brain wave binocular and the remote control on one very productive evening?

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  45. You "see" much more than you perceive by whyde · · Score: 1

    Since this device just takes existing data from the brain and feeds it back in, it's hard to believe it would be of any help, or we would have evolved the same thing.

    This calls to mind an exchange between Dirk Gently and Richard MacDuff in "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency":

    Richard: "Well there was probably some detail of it I missed, but..."

    Dirk: "Oh, without question. But the benefit of questioning somebody under hypnosis is that it allows the questioner to see the scene in much greater detail than the subject was even aware of at the time. The girl Sarah, for instance. Do you recall what she was wearing?"

    Richard: "Er, no," said Richard, vaguely, "a dress of some kind, I suppose."

    Dirk: "Colour? Fabric?"

    Richard: "Well, I can't remember, it was dark. She was sitting several places away from me. I hardly glimpsed her."

    Dirk: "She was wearing a dark blue cotton velvet dress gathered to a dropped waist. It had raglan sleeves gathered to the cuffs, a white Peter Pan collar and six small pearl buttons down the front - the third one down had a small thread hanging off it. She had long dark hair pulled back with a red butterfly hairgrip."

    Richard: "If you're going to tell me you know all that from looking at a scuff mark on my shoes, like Sherlock Holmes, then I'm afraid I don't believe you."

    Dirk: "No, no," said Dirk, "it's much simpler than that. You told me yourself under hypnosis."

    Richard: "Not true," he said, "I don't even know what a Peter Pan collar is."

    Dirk: "But I do and you described it to me perfectly accurately."

    I know that's just fiction, but there's a grain of truth to it. You see a lot more than you choose to pay attention to in the moment. Thank you, Mr. Adams, may you rest in peace.

    1. Re:You "see" much more than you perceive by TheLink · · Score: 1

      That's _recall_ though, and that's different - it's proven that most people can form false memories.

      Some people might see more, but I bet most other people don't see much and they make most of it up when you ask them based on what they think they saw (which can be influenced by what you tell them).

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  46. Pentagon Bullshit by overtly_demure · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This is not currently possible. The idea that "when you look at a far-off or partially obscured object without noticing it, your subconscious probably did notice it and tried, unsuccessfully, to identify it [and] EEG in these binoculars would pick up on that kind of subconscious activity and draw the wearer's attention to the object in question" is pure speculation reminiscent of the "Subliminal Seduction" bullshit from the 1970s. Subliminal perception undoubtedly occurs, but this is simple-minded speculation.

    One can only wonder whether this is yet more Pentagon disinformation to scare dim-witted Third World generals, like the anti-matter bomb.

  47. Re:wow. just wow. by dogdick · · Score: 3, Funny

    Have you ever pointed a video camera at a tv it was outputting to and seen theinfinite tunnel... What happens when you look at a monitor that outputs the results of the binoculars while you wear them?

  48. Other Valid Projects... by fcon · · Score: 1

    Damn, I wish DARPA would fund my neurofeedback turntables... ;)

  49. Re:false positives? The REAL reason for this: by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    (Multi-spectral response here....)

    To help old codger politicians up their gains when combined with Viagra.

    Imagine: The Love Guru Meets Linthicum Meets Issac Hayes' The Chef Meets Marvin Gaye's Sexual Healing Meets The Teletubbies Meets....

    Well, this might have some "knock-on" effects if it can be tied to porn and the x-box. QOS will take on a hole.. umm, WHOLE new MEANING when tele-sex can be used to keep the POP-ul-LASH-ON under complete control.

    Talk about visual stimulation.

    But, even if this thing pans out to its claims for it, this might end up causing sensory overload for the military personnel.

    ONE WAY TO DEFEAT THIS: fire multitudes of multi-spectral weapons at the wearers. They won't TRUST the damned thing, and even if it discriminates real from seduction targets, eventually the device and the wearer will become worn out. To ensure the device doesn't "learn" to discriminate correctly, make sure the seduction/distraction launchers fire as few duplicates as possible...

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  50. Re:waste of taxpayer dollars Reserectuion? by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    This could single-handedly (bun, umm, pun intended) reserect the Porn vs Beta arguMENts and breath mints in one fellow swoop.

    Now, all those "angle of the dangle" jokes could be reserected, tool. Now, tie this device in with an ocular implant (7 of Mine/NINE comes to mind), with a Vinculum, and all those back-alley adult film studios and we're talking about serous... umm seerious sin-sory overload.

    NorGrum might have better luck positing this thing at the porn industry. But, since it records images going on in the brain, strapping one of these onto prisoners might help prevent jail riots, monitor thoughts of those about to be executed, or just ferret out perverted pilots who are in their own single-handed miles-high clubs or troopers in their own Six-inch-trench clubs.

    (No, you're NOT free to hook up one of those things to my brain or brains...)

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  51. Re:waste of taxpayer dollars... Sell them to con by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    sumers...

    (rant on)

    Then the BONE-US COULD be OHN-US. These things could help musicians, artist, poets, the audiences of mimes, and so on. Police could use them, sure, but so could hikers, nature observers, and scores of other types of people.

    Why does that f&cking device have to be announced solely as a military gadget? Sexy seduction of tax payers' dollars is probably why. I'm sure they DO product non-combat gear, but dammit, I'm tired of my tax dollars going to producing shit for those who want or prepare to kill when they can produce expensive, but affordable stuff for the masses. Oh, maybe they'll sub-license under some brand non-related to their name....

    (rant off)

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  52. Re:Sounds Just Like ... And, market to women or by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    to same-sex males the ...

    "BONE-OC-U-LARS", for the low-low price of $69.99.

    Butt, WAIT: Act NOW and get a FREE cortical stimp-lulator (yes, STIMP is a word boyz-n-gurlz) for those who like nice ass-trough-turf beneath their noses...

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  53. Do you have to think in Russian? ;) by Danny+Rathjens · · Score: 1

    I can't wait for augmented information processing. This reminds me of projects like Peep that take advantage of our natural ability to parallelize sound processing in our mind by representing status information that way because vision is more restricted in focus.

  54. Somebody Else's Problem fields by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    Sounds like it would pierce an SEP field quite neatly!

  55. Hooray! by Goaway · · Score: 1

    Just what I've always wanted, a Psychosis Helmet!

  56. infinite loop anyone? by ItsPaPPy · · Score: 1

    so if the brain can process it, and the helmet can process it and pass it on to the brain what happens when a dumb person wears it? infinite loop? will there be a timeout variable?

  57. In Soviet Russia ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Plane flies you!

    Seriously, where are all the Firefox jokes? You know, the one where Clint Eastwood had to think in *hacckk-ptooey* Russian in order to fly that goddamn canard-ridden piece of Soviet propaganda? Where's Elia Kazan when you need him?

    That's it - I'm leaving. I don't care, call the weekend guy. *door slams*

  58. news flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This just in, ninjas are now obsolete.

  59. This is FAR from magic or mind-reading by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

    This is merely an attempt to signal a human consciously when the unconscious notices something but it gets filtered out. Maybe -- if they are VERY clever -- they might even be able to highlight the general region in the view where the object is.

    This is not artificial intelligence, or mind reading, or anything of the sort. It would merely be a slight enhancement of native human ability... and I bet it would take a pretty large piece of hardware today to do it.

  60. neuroscientist's opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a visual systems neuroscientist that has done work in primates and seen data from electrodes implanted in humans.

    What's valid - the brain receives a lot more visual information than we consciously perceive. The brain's activity can be compared to a bayesian estimator. It compares the current stimulus to a set of priors and determines what it will attend to, what it will note but not attend to, and what it will dismiss. It does so along two main pathways, one goes through the brainstem (superior colliculus) and mediates primal reflexive responses, and the other is to the visual cortex. It is conceivable that you could extract the stimuli that were close misses and zoom in to get a better look at them.

    The problems - we absolutely do NOT understand how the above computations are performed in dynamic natural environments. When we do understand it, it will almost certainly be through observations of networks viewed at single neuron resolutions. This is nothing like EEG, which even at its most modern has mediocre resolution. There ARE EEG systems that can get sufficient resolution to determine general retinotopic map location...if the subject is static...and the activity patterns are analyzed offline. But if you're doing that you might as well just beam the images to a room full of people to analyze stills.

    Conclusion: It's not practical for field use...if you want to do it in the lab, fine, but then it's simpler to just pay multiple people to watch the images and watch their saccade patterns.

  61. Re:wow. just wow. by indi0144 · · Score: 0

    head implodes!?

  62. Risky by Archtech · · Score: 1

    "If you load a mudfoot down with a lot of gadgets he has to watch somebody a lot more simply equipped - say with a stone axe - will sneak up and bash his head in while he is trying to read a Vernier".
    - Robert Heinlein

    This rig could easily distract the wearer by continuously dragging his eyes into distant "ratholes" where some conceivably suspicious activity might be going on. But the very amplification of the binoculars would limit the field of vision to a very small area. Meanwhile, someone might very well sneak up and bash his head in with a stone axe - or, perhaps more likely, simply shoot him from the middle distance.

    Another fundamental weakness is that the rig could only detect suspicious movements the wearer could actually see. So, if his head happened to be turned slightly away from an attacker, there would be no chance of seeing him.

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  63. Thoughtcrime by scum-e-bag · · Score: 1

    Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime IS death.

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  64. Ocean Rescues by dbcad7 · · Score: 1

    This might be useful for something like search and rescue in the ocean, where you might only have a fraction of a second glimpse of someone bobbing in the water.

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  65. Re:false positives? The REAL reason for this: by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

    Er, what? You mean set some form of decoy weapon up? why not a real weapon with real bullets that kill stuff real dead?

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  66. I'm sure there's a movie about it by DrYak · · Score: 1

    What do you want to bet that the only thing these binoculars register is 'tits'. Hmmm.... A brain wave recording device that is mostly used to record porn ?
    I'm sure I've seen some movie about that...

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  67. Re:wow. just wow. by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

    42.

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