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Re:More effective, yes...
Mozilla allows this--see the docs. You can either globally disable window.open() or disable it on a per-site basis.
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Re:Hashed passwords?
I dual boot, for instance, so I can't always use the same browser, even if I had a specific favorite
So go vote for bug 58647 :)
(My original suggestion could be implemented in a browser-neutral way, or at least in a way that you could use a web-based version of the password generator when you're using a different browser.) -
Re:Enough With The Monopoly
the latest IE for OSX fixes this probem with stuffit i think. anyway you can tell it to open the right stuffit in preferences.
OmniWeb is nice, but slow. and doesn't render the webpage i use most. which is a shame.
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Re:Mozilla rocks
Bug 88932 Have to restart browser to apply themes
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Mozilla supports selective popup removal and more
Have a look at Configurable Security Policies, specifically Setting Global Policies.
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Re:I would like to thank X10
Not only didn't I hack up prefs.js to add those customizations, but I didn't even read the release notes when I installed 0.92! Know why? I wanted the browser to work, and turning Java and Javascript off is fast and doesn't disable anything I like. These arguments are for another time and place-- like on Bugzilla. OB Ontopic: X10 has some neat gadgets, but a man ust take his stand somewhere. I've tossed a respectable amount of money at them for their home automation hardware and enjoyed the product-- once I realized that even their appliance modules can't control a fluorescent light in normal use for more than 8 months. One time you turn it on, it'll have been fried. I lost two fluorescent lights within 2 weeks of each other-- the only two in my house on X10 appliance modules-- and none of my other fluorescent lights were harmed. If you keep that restriction in mind, there are still lots of interesting things you can do, but nothing in my house that justifies the price. To answer the question from your
.sig, no I didn't compile my kernel today, I did that last Sunday. I did just compile the latest version of Wine though. I found out last month that I can use Quicken with a minimum of bugs. -
Re:Mozilla 0.9.2 Blocks Popups
Indeed it does! However that stops everything that attempts to pop up a window. Including Mozilla's very own bug helper form.
The solution is to disable Javascript then use: this one I believe.
Any website that depends on Javascript should be spurned.
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Re:Mozilla 0.9.2 Blocks Popups
Indeed it does! However that stops everything that attempts to pop up a window. Including Mozilla's very own bug helper form.
The solution is to disable Javascript then use: this one I believe.
Any website that depends on Javascript should be spurned.
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Re:More than 30 days hack?
Actually, Mozilla has some great features to deal with pop-up windows. This page goes over quite a few things that you can mess with that aren't available via the standard options dialog. Most notable is buried in the Other Useful Preferences section which discusses the user.js file. Within there are some great features to control when and what javascript is available to a page.. I personally love this feature.
This will help greatly with those websites that "require" that you have javascript enabled in order to view them, while also killing any javascript that you don't want to function..
Enjoy, and have fun..
;)-Greg
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Re:Konqueror's great; iCab somewhat more complete
Mozilla lets you deny access to specific javascript functions on a per-site (or per-group-of-sites) basis, but currently you have to edit your preferences file manually. See the documentation on mozilla.org for instructions on how to set up your security preferences.
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Blocking pop-ups with mozilla 0.9.2
While you're not running mozilla, edit your prefs.js to say:
user_pref("capability.policy.default.Window.open"
, "noAccess");Then if you want to allow certain sites to open new windows, also add the lines:
user_pref("capability.policy.allowpopups.sites", "http://www.foo.com http://www.baz.org");
user_pref("capability.policy.allowpopups.Window.op en", "sameOrigin");Mozilla's Configurable Security Policies document explains how you can create groups of sites with variable access to create new windows, use javascript alerts, etc.
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Re:Mozilla does not allow on site by site basis.With some manual tweaking, you can disable popup ads for specific sites. (I assume the converse would work, too)
For instance, my user.js looks something like this:
user_pref("capability.policy.strict.sites", "http://ads.x10.com http://popup.msn.com");
user_pref("capability.policy.strict.Window.open", "noAccess");
Despite what the release notes say, user.js seems to be a better location for custom settings, because configuration changes made through the UI will often cause the entire prefs.js file to be overwritten.
See the Configurable Security Policies document at Mozilla.org for more info.
Of course, it would be nicer to disable ad sites on the fly, as they are encountered. If I knew a bit more about how Mozilla worked, I could probably do it myself, but I'm lazy, and Mozilla documentation is still a bit scattered. For all I know, it might be possible to do this sort of thing now with Galeon, but I haven't tried the latest release.
-jacob
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WWWOFFLEI used to use WWWOFFLE with a configuration like:
replacement =
to kill image based ads. /local/images/ad-killer.gif
http://*.doubleclick.net/*ad/*
http://images.slashdot.org/banner/*
etc.Which was great until I switched to using Mozilla as my browser of choice. (WWWOFFLE doesn't seem to like Mozilla's HTTP/1.1 requests - which is fair enough as it's an HTTP/1.0 proxy - and sometimes pages are truncated).
Which is a pity, 'cos WWWOFFLE has lots of other cool features too. Like de-animating GIFs, removing <BLINK> tags, demoronising MS non-Latin1 characters. (As well as being quite a cool caching/offline proxy).
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Re:mozilla can block popups
Here's a better link to Mozilla's Configurable Security Policies
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Mozilla 0.9.2 Blocks Popups> Fortunately, Konqueror allows you to disable popups with a single checkbox.
Mozilla 0.9.2 can block popups, too, but there's no UI for it yet. Add this to your prefs.js file:
user_pref("capability.policy.default.Window.open"
, "noAccess");You can also allow popups from some sites. See the 0.9.2 release notes for details.
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mozilla can block popups
There's no UI for it yet, but you can edit your prefs file. See the release notes for details...
user_pref("capability.policy.default.Window.open ", "noAccess");
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Re:Some popups are goodMozilla allows this. Check out the release notes on the latest version. It's through JavaScript, but it's easy to see what to do. I just blocked all of them, though.
--Kevin
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Re:Just playing catch-up is not good enough
Mozilla comes to mind, but its not done, nor is it timely, nor is it new or started from scratch.
Yep, it's not done (though I've been using it as my primary browser for ages now, as have my family who're non-techies), but I'd like to take you up on the other points. Mozilla is started from scratch. Netscape 5 started with the Netscape 4 codebase. They decided it was too rubbish and wrote Netscape 6/Mozilla from the ground up. Several core components have also been rewritten at various milestones, with performance improvements each time (and it's a credit to them that they can do this). What do you mean by new? OK, a browser (or rather an internet suite which is what Mozilla really is) isn't an innovative idea. They do have some innovative ideas on that theme though. There're loads of small features that I use in Mozilla and find incredibly useful that I don't get elsewhere.
Timely? OK, it's been a while in development, but it's a big project. They've never said "we shall be releasing 1.0 on this date" (Netscape have, but we're talking about open source projects here). If you look at their roadmap - when does it say 1.0 will be out? "When it's ready." You might chastise them for not fixing a date, but you can't say they're not timely when they haven't broken any promises.
Lets face it, with few exceptions, OSS and its development model is good at imitating existing stuff, that usually was developed commerically.
I disagree. I've seen far more (to my mind) innovative ideas in OS software than I have in programs commercial programs (with the notable exception of games). One example I put to you is the huge variety of window managers available. Yes, yes, some of them have things similar to Windows's taskbar, but not all. I've always liked Enlightenment, and its stated aim of becoming a desktop shell. I think they're doing something new there. If you read the documentation for Evas it's pretty damn interesting stuff. Saying OS projects can't be innovative is rubbish.
Bottom line: commerical software or paid-OSS has the advantage of a focus team of creative individuals working towards a common goal.
This is true. If you've got a paid up team that's working on something full time then you're going to get a good product sooner. That doesn't mean that OS projects can't be innovative or deliver on time. You make the distinction here where you didn't before... OS projects can be done by paid developers - it's not the OS part that's the "problem". It's more to do with the fact that OS coders are working in their own time for their own goals. We get the benefit from this - thank them, don't moan.
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Re:Mail clientI really hate that 'show attachments inline' feature. With Netscape you could turn that off.
Well, if you hate it - Check Bugzilla and if one doesn't exist, create a bug asking that that capability/option be maintained from 4.7x.
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Is the mail client still sending referrer info?Take a look at Last 20 Referrers from Email:
http://212.142.37.162/open;ref1?tag=newcrit(Also, check out Last 20 Referrers from Harddisk.)
Related bugs:
#83038
#55477Looks like mail referrers might be fixed but file:// is still a problem. UI preference is not built either.
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Is the mail client still sending referrer info?Take a look at Last 20 Referrers from Email:
http://212.142.37.162/open;ref1?tag=newcrit(Also, check out Last 20 Referrers from Harddisk.)
Related bugs:
#83038
#55477Looks like mail referrers might be fixed but file:// is still a problem. UI preference is not built either.
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That's http://recall.mozdev.org - Re:Check out ...
Try http://recall.mozdev.org, but see also http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36810 -- quote: "I started a project here but haven't worked on it in a while."
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Re:multiplatform
However, their entire front page is a flash applet. Doh!
However, Mozilla works entirely perfectly with flash (insofar as mozilla ever works perfectly), so what's the beef?
Download the Netscape version, throw the libflashplayer.so into Mozilla's plugins directory, and then restart Mozilla. Don't see the problem. =:>
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Re:Can I change the UserAgent string?
Add user_pref("general.useragent.override", "yourbrowserhere"); to the prefs or user.js. Works nicely on the Mac. This and other useful tips courtesy of the Mozilla end user docs.
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Re:Same graphics rendering problem as in 0.9.1.
Its a bug in ATI Rage cards. You may wish to try XFree86 4.1 and see if the problem is fixed.
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Read the release notes
From the release notes
There is a new turbo mode pref on Windows which allows you to "pre-load" Mozilla when you boot in order to reduce browser startup time. (Bug 84882)
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Read the release notes
From the release notes
There is a new turbo mode pref on Windows which allows you to "pre-load" Mozilla when you boot in order to reduce browser startup time. (Bug 84882)
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Performance
Wondering how this release stacks up to previous ones in terms of performance? Check out this page.
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Re:Using 0.9.2 right now
and there is a fine alternative, Konqueror, if for some reason Netscape/AOL/Time-Warner is prevented from continuing development of Mozilla due to the new anti-GPL/viral clauses in their EULAs.
Go ahead and prevent further development. I have the source code now and it was licensed to me here.
This code is mine now, even if they AOL-ize the next version, I have this one to work from, and I'm sure hundreds of other people who want a superior alternative to Internet Explorer XP are willing to work on it. -
Slow typing in URLbar info:
This bug is described here.
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Different icons for Mail / Navigator info:
I think there's a fix in hand.
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What's better this time out (linux p.o.v.)I've been using mozilla as my main browser since M16 maybe and my main e-mail app a bit after that. Only with the release of 0.9.1 have I really been able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, a stable 1.0 product that is better than Netscape 4.7 in all ways. (I don't have much experience with IE.)
Several things are worth mentioning as major improvements recently:
- MIME type/helper app support: In the past, mozilla was difficult to configure for helper apps, didn't read my
.mailcap (still doesn't, but RSN), and was generally a pain in the butt. A lot of work has been going on here recently which means that 0.9.2 is much easier to deal with and 0.9.3 looks to be even better. See bug 78106 for an overview of this work. - Stability: I don't ever remember 0.9.1 crashing on me (but it might have) and 0.9.2 promises to be even better. If you are having problems in this area, try renaming your ~/.mozilla directory, restarting, and then moving back in just the files you need (bookmarks, cookies, etc). It sucks, but this can sometimes help.
- Speed: mozilla just keeps getting more and more responsive. It's not as fast as 4.77, never will be since it does so much more, but it is certainly getting better.
- Autocomplete: Overall better since it seems to match anywhere in the URL, but it does tend to get cluttered up with non-top level URLS.
Some things still need some work:
- Printing on linux might be getting better but there are still lots of problems leading to ugly printouts
- The newsreader doesn't seem to thread entirely properly
- Perhaps the biggest obstacle to mozilla acceptance is the number of sites that are written with non-standard HTML/JavaScript and fail to render properly with mozilla. If you see this at sites you frequent, file an evangelism bug and send the webmaster e-mail.
If you haven't tried mozilla recently (since 0.9) you owe it to yourself to download this one and try it out.
- MIME type/helper app support: In the past, mozilla was difficult to configure for helper apps, didn't read my
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Re:Mozilla shrinkingThe 2MB footprint improvement is mainly due to XPCDOM code integration:
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?bugidtype= include&order=bugs.bug_id&bug_id=,76534,76535,7654 0,76543,76568,76871,76942,77404,77410,77412,77418, 77469,77471,77557,77559,77560,77561,77562,77574,77 575,77802,78386,78782,78783,79010See Mozillazine update from May, 9:
http://www.mozillazine.org/build_comments/May2001_ buildbar_comments.html--
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Re:Quick Launch??mozilla can be started with the -turbo option which will preload Mozilla when you boot. When you actually launch Mozilla, it will come up quickly. This is a similar trick to what IE does.
This is documented in the Release Notes.
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Opera-like gestures
If you're interested in support for Opera-like gestures, please vote for bug 76537 (of course, you'll need a free Bugzilla account to vote).
In case you're not familiar with the feature, Opera has gesture support. For instance, to reload a document, just hold down the right mouse button, and move the mouse up then down. Or, to go back a page, hold down the right mouse button and click the left mouse button ("forward" is just the reverse: hold down the left mouse button and click the right mouse button).
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Opera-like gestures
If you're interested in support for Opera-like gestures, please vote for bug 76537 (of course, you'll need a free Bugzilla account to vote).
In case you're not familiar with the feature, Opera has gesture support. For instance, to reload a document, just hold down the right mouse button, and move the mouse up then down. Or, to go back a page, hold down the right mouse button and click the left mouse button ("forward" is just the reverse: hold down the left mouse button and click the right mouse button).
Alex Bischoff -
Opera-like gestures
If you're interested in support for Opera-like gestures, please vote for bug 76537 (of course, you'll need a free Bugzilla account to vote).
In case you're not familiar with the feature, Opera has gesture support. For instance, to reload a document, just hold down the right mouse button, and move the mouse up then down. Or, to go back a page, hold down the right mouse button and click the left mouse button ("forward" is just the reverse: hold down the left mouse button and click the right mouse button).
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Very good - *but* some annoying little bugsI've been checking out most of the Mozilla builds since M8 and it is greatly improving. It renders pages well, and fast! I know most
/.-ers write HTML by hand, but the Composer is also greatly improved from 4.x. Mozilla will be a major competitor in the near future, but there are a couple of annoying little interface issues (and yes, I have submitted bug reports):- The same icons are used for Mail/News and Navigator, so when minimised, sometimes "which one's my mail window?!" becomes a problem. It only requires the Mozilla developers to add 2 words somewhere, but it's still not fixed.
- In the "Tasks" menu, the "Mail" entry is used to access the mail and news client. With such a poor description you could be thinking Mozilla doesn't have a news client.
- The release notes say "The preferences dialog now allows you to turn off animated gif images or set them to only animate once". And where is this animated GIF preference? In the Privacy and Security category... right...
- Not interface-related, but it is very annoying that Mozilla only imports 4.x profiles during profile migration, in the mail client.
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Very good - *but* some annoying little bugsI've been checking out most of the Mozilla builds since M8 and it is greatly improving. It renders pages well, and fast! I know most
/.-ers write HTML by hand, but the Composer is also greatly improved from 4.x. Mozilla will be a major competitor in the near future, but there are a couple of annoying little interface issues (and yes, I have submitted bug reports):- The same icons are used for Mail/News and Navigator, so when minimised, sometimes "which one's my mail window?!" becomes a problem. It only requires the Mozilla developers to add 2 words somewhere, but it's still not fixed.
- In the "Tasks" menu, the "Mail" entry is used to access the mail and news client. With such a poor description you could be thinking Mozilla doesn't have a news client.
- The release notes say "The preferences dialog now allows you to turn off animated gif images or set them to only animate once". And where is this animated GIF preference? In the Privacy and Security category... right...
- Not interface-related, but it is very annoying that Mozilla only imports 4.x profiles during profile migration, in the mail client.
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Very good - *but* some annoying little bugsI've been checking out most of the Mozilla builds since M8 and it is greatly improving. It renders pages well, and fast! I know most
/.-ers write HTML by hand, but the Composer is also greatly improved from 4.x. Mozilla will be a major competitor in the near future, but there are a couple of annoying little interface issues (and yes, I have submitted bug reports):- The same icons are used for Mail/News and Navigator, so when minimised, sometimes "which one's my mail window?!" becomes a problem. It only requires the Mozilla developers to add 2 words somewhere, but it's still not fixed.
- In the "Tasks" menu, the "Mail" entry is used to access the mail and news client. With such a poor description you could be thinking Mozilla doesn't have a news client.
- The release notes say "The preferences dialog now allows you to turn off animated gif images or set them to only animate once". And where is this animated GIF preference? In the Privacy and Security category... right...
- Not interface-related, but it is very annoying that Mozilla only imports 4.x profiles during profile migration, in the mail client.
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Multi-user installation: here's howThe release notes *still* don't document how to install Mozilla properly on a multi-user system.
Thanks to Ben Bucksch you will be able to find how to do that here:
bug 74574. It could use some more votes. (hint)
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IE is sneaky and EvIl, use Mozilla
with recent builds from Mozilla.org, I think they've surpassed IE in both features and performance....
at least where I live in Linux Land that's how it is.
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Re:compiler and CLI
You may be right there - but I doubt it would keep them all that honest.
:-)
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of implementation inheritance in the first place. I prefer composition in most cases from a design standpoint.
I'm also not sure that it is very far ahead of what's already possible with the JVM. I've already used Rhino, Beanshell, DynamicJava and JPython. All of them interoperated pretty seamlessly through the common denominator of Java objects, and with RMI and/or CORBA, you even get a fair degree of language and network transparency.
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Re:But why?
I've done a bit of development imbedding mozilla on win32 but I've never done anything more complex, but from what I understand you could use XUL, Mozilla and XPCOM as an application development framework. I notice on the XPCOM home page a few cool things you can do with it. It does beg to be asked thought, what ELSE does it offer? I'd love to hear from people out there about the cool stuff they're doing with it. I concur with the person who posted the article, Python is the prince of languages.
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Re:I'll use GPG... [it's being done]This is bug 22687.
This is a fascinating bug, BTW. Discussion about NSA security policy, an NAI developer offering his time for the feature, and the effect the patch would have on the tree.
It's highly unlikely (based on the history and state of 0.92) that the patch will make it into the main build, but if you are brave and foolhardy you can try out the code yourself.
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But isnt AOL right?Isnt GAIMs name based off AIM's name? Same as KICQ (KDE ICQ) is using ICQ's name.
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Windows portAll the other trendy open-source killer apps have a windows port, including the GIMP, Mozilla, GNUPLOT, GhostView, Emacs, etc. etc. etc.
With libraries like SDL being built cross-platform, and now even seeing a Windows port of the GTK+ library, why not? How better to take customers from Intuit and Microsoft than to attack them on their own native platform?
I'm a Quicken user right now, but I would jump to a free (as in beer, speech, whatever) alternative for Windows if I had the chance (cause installing Linux is not my preferred course of action right now)
-ubermuffin
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Good for MozillaThis is good for people who want to see websites that are actually written to standards because this means AOL are more likely now to use a Mozilla browser in the next release of their software, giving Mozilla a reasonable market share which will mean people will have to code their pages to web standards and we'll not have a Microsoft only web.
BTW Netscape 6.1beta1 is now out and it's based on Mozilla 0.9.1 it's a MASSIVE improvement over Netscape 6.01 and 6.0 which were quite frankly a joke, therefore Netscape's not dead yet and if we can get AOL to support Netscape/Mozilla then there's a good future for the browser.
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Mulithreaded C++ XPLat Application FrameworkIf you want to do some multithreaded programming, a nice way to do it in C++ is to use ZooLib. Here the threads and locks are easy-to-use C++ objects.
ZooLib supports Linux, BeOS for x86, Mac OS PowerPC and 68k, and Windows out of the box. It can be bound to other platforms in a straightforward way.
I believe the Mozilla framework is multithreaded as well.
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What about Mozilla?
Mozilla already has cookie and image blocking features!!!
http://www.mozilla.org/
I don't care about MS... they got it hard if they want to convince me to stop using mozilla and install IE on my Windoze again.