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How Secure is Slashdot?I wonder why Slashdot doesn't post these?
Linux show website powered by Windows
Oracle to release patches for multiple vulnerabilities "Will /. discuss this?" (apparently not!)
MS employee banned from Slashdot!
Linux folks selling Linux insurance?... This smells to high heaven
MSDN comments on Slashdot 503 errors
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More Interesting Questions For You TodayI wonder why Slashdot doesn't post these?
Linux show website powered by Windows
Oracle to release patches for multiple vulnerabilities "Will /. discuss this?" (apparently not!)
MS employee banned from Slashdot!
MSDN comments on Slashdot 503 errors
Linux folks selling Linux insurance?... This smells to high heaven
"Slashdot and various online magazines which has no credibility" -
More Interesting Questions For You TodayI wonder why Slashdot doesn't post these?
Linux show website powered by Windows
Oracle to release patches for multiple vulnerabilities "Will /. discuss this?" (apparently not!)
MS employee banned from Slashdot!
MSDN comments on Slashdot 503 errors
Linux folks selling Linux insurance?... This smells to high heaven
"Slashdot and various online magazines which has no credibility" -
More Interesting Questions For You TodayI wonder why Slashdot doesn't post these?
Linux show website powered by Windows
Oracle to release patches for multiple vulnerabilities "Will /. discuss this?" (apparently not!)
MS employee banned from Slashdot!
MSDN comments on Slashdot 503 errors
Linux folks selling Linux insurance?... This smells to high heaven
"Slashdot and various online magazines which has no credibility" -
More Interesting Questions For You TodayI wonder why Slashdot doesn't post these?
Linux show website powered by Windows
Oracle to release patches for multiple vulnerabilities "Will /. discuss this?" (apparently not!)
MS employee banned from Slashdot!
MSDN comments on Slashdot 503 errors
Linux folks selling Linux insurance?... This smells to high heaven
"Slashdot and various online magazines which has no credibility" -
More Interesting Questions For You TodayI wonder why Slashdot doesn't post these?
Linux show website powered by Windows
Oracle to release patches for multiple vulnerabilities "Will /. discuss this?" (apparently not!)
MS employee banned from Slashdot!
MSDN comments on Slashdot 503 errors
Linux folks selling Linux insurance?... This smells to high heaven
"Slashdot and various online magazines which has no credibility" -
More Interesting Questions For You TodayI wonder why Slashdot doesn't post these?
Linux show website powered by Windows
Oracle to release patches for multiple vulnerabilities "Will /. discuss this?" (apparently not!)
MS employee banned from Slashdot!
MSDN comments on Slashdot 503 errors
Linux folks selling Linux insurance?... This smells to high heaven
"Slashdot and various online magazines which has no credibility" -
More Interesting Questions For You TodayI wonder why Slashdot doesn't post these?
Linux show website powered by Windows
Oracle to release patches for multiple vulnerabilities "Will /. discuss this?" (apparently not!)
MS employee banned from Slashdot!
MSDN comments on Slashdot 503 errors
Linux folks selling Linux insurance?... This smells to high heaven
"Slashdot and various online magazines which has no credibility" -
Waiting for these to show up on SlashdotI wonder why Slashdot doesn't post these?
Linux show website powered by Windows
Oracle to release patches for multiple vulnerabilities "Will
/. discuss this?" (apparently not!)MS employee banned from Slashdot!
MSDN comments on Slashdot 503 errors
"Slashdot and various online magazines which has no credibility"
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Waiting for these to show up on SlashdotI wonder why Slashdot doesn't post these?
Linux show website powered by Windows
Oracle to release patches for multiple vulnerabilities "Will
/. discuss this?" (apparently not!)MS employee banned from Slashdot!
MSDN comments on Slashdot 503 errors
"Slashdot and various online magazines which has no credibility"
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Waiting for these to show up on SlashdotI wonder why Slashdot doesn't post these?
Linux show website powered by Windows
Oracle to release patches for multiple vulnerabilities "Will
/. discuss this?" (apparently not!)MS employee banned from Slashdot!
MSDN comments on Slashdot 503 errors
"Slashdot and various online magazines which has no credibility"
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Waiting for these to show up on SlashdotI wonder why Slashdot doesn't post these?
Linux show website powered by Windows
Oracle to release patches for multiple vulnerabilities "Will
/. discuss this?" (apparently not!)MS employee banned from Slashdot!
MSDN comments on Slashdot 503 errors
"Slashdot and various online magazines which has no credibility"
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Waiting for these to show up on SlashdotI wonder why Slashdot doesn't post these?
Linux show website powered by Windows
Oracle to release patches for multiple vulnerabilities "Will
/. discuss this?" (apparently not!)MS employee banned from Slashdot!
MSDN comments on Slashdot 503 errors
"Slashdot and various online magazines which has no credibility"
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LINUX SHOW POWERED BY WINDOWS
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msdn.general and channel9
Isn't that what Channel9 and the msdn newsgroups are all about?
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IEBlog
Taken from the IEBlog:
"Basically, consider this real world analogy: we have improved the fences and doors that separate your yard from the street and your yard to your house. If someone manages to get through the barriers, s/he will find your valuables locked in a safe inside the house. We have made it harder to break in and less interesting if you do."
Very funny!
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Is complex better than long?
Robert Hensing (MS Security Response) has an interesting article on this in his newly-created blog. His basic assertion is that we should all forget password complexity and just go for something long but simple to type. The spacebar opens a whole new dimension in uncrackable passwords, apparently. Robert's blog is at http://blogs.msdn.com/robert_hensing/
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WINDOWS XP SP2 GOES RTM THREE DAYS *EARLY*Three days EARLY!
Whats the matter slashdot? Another attack of news censorship on your part eh?
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WINDOWS XP SP2 HAS BEEN RTM
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Release schedule
source
8/6 Release to manufacturing
8/9 Release to Microsoft Download Center (network installation package)
8/9 Release to MSDN subscription site (CD ISO image)
8/10 Release to Automatic Updates (for machines running pre-release versions of Windows XP Service Pack 2 only)
8/16 Release to Automatic Updates (for machines NOT running pre-releases versions of Windows XP Service Pack 2)
8/16 Release to Software Update Services
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Re:Gosling, Java? Hmmm.....
Ok, but C++ templates aren't really generics either. They are basically sophisticated macros that look like generics, which has the side effect of allowing them to do all sorts of weird, powerful things. But it has downsides as well. Some more info
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blogs.msdn.com
Don't forget blogs.msdn.com where a lot of MS developers have blogs.
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First blog service? Huh?
"Microsoft is turning to Japan to launch its first blog service
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Um, what about http://blogs.msdn.com/? "It's sooo small, it's internal only..", etc etc. So what? It's still an M$ blog. -
What "potential threat?"
I can't help notice the completely random accusation that Microsoft thinks blogging is a "potential threat."
Barring the fact it's just another random Slashdot statement with no backing evidence, I guess Longhorn Blogs, Channel 9, and the massive MSDN blogs from actual Microsoft employees are threatening their own company.
In the past few years, Microsoft has become incredibly open as a company. I think Slashdot has greatly underreported that fact, and as a result, people here have a wrong impression about Microsoft's developers. Slashdotters should step outside of Slashdot once in a while for its tech news. -
What "potential threat?"
I can't help notice the completely random accusation that Microsoft thinks blogging is a "potential threat."
Barring the fact it's just another random Slashdot statement with no backing evidence, I guess Longhorn Blogs, Channel 9, and the massive MSDN blogs from actual Microsoft employees are threatening their own company.
In the past few years, Microsoft has become incredibly open as a company. I think Slashdot has greatly underreported that fact, and as a result, people here have a wrong impression about Microsoft's developers. Slashdotters should step outside of Slashdot once in a while for its tech news. -
Re:Core Image?
MS Research is an open research group much like Xerox PARC was (with some of the same people). They publish papers and have been working on stuff like this for years. So it isn't so easy to say who stole which idea from whom. All you can say is that Apple beat them to market with it.
check out:
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Stop Demonizing Microsoft
Sorry, I mean to post this URL.
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Re:I've always seen him as a good man
Bill Gates has created one of the best places in the world to work, this is from a blog I read:
I need to thank Microsoft for several things: our benefits, our technology, and the people with whom I work. Three months ago, my oldest daughter, Jenna, age 9, was diagnosed with a brain tumor. She was a normal, healthy kid one day and being rushed in for emergency brain surgery the next. She's now recovering from her second surgery, during which they were able to get 90 percent of the tumor out. Her treatment plan will take many more months, but she's come a long way and continues to make progress daily. When you and your family are healthy, you might tend to take our benefits for granted. I certainly will never do that again. We have the best benefits of any company. Everything has been covered--surgeries, hospital stays, chemotherapy, prescriptions, home nursing and equipment, physical and speech therapy, follow-up visits, and consultations. The medical bills are very large, but everything is covered. We were provided with a case manager who oversees the entire process and helps us deal with the paperwork, organization, and approval processes. In short, they've been phenomenal to deal with. Our technology was also a godsend during this ordeal. A friend and coworker set up a Web site for Jenna the day after her first surgery (http://www.caringbridge.org/sc/jennawit). We have used this site to keep family and friends updated on Jenna's condition and progress. There was no network or wireless access in the hospital, so I used my Smartphone and my laptop to dial in and keep the Web site up to date. I also was able to help other families get their Web sites set up for their children who were in the hospital. Jenna's Web site has had more than 97,000 hits to date, and thousands of well wishes have been posted by friends, family, coworkers, and even complete strangers. If you ever doubted that our technology has had an impact on the world, just take a look at the guestbook on Jenna's site, and you'll see how technology has helped to bring people closer together. Lastly, I must comment on the wonderful people with whom I work. The support has been incredible from day one of Jenna's illness. I was able to take family leave with no questions asked. My team stepped in and took care of my job while my manager worked out a replacement for me, and I was able to just walk away and focus on my family for three months. Also, hundreds of Microsoft folks have offered to help me and my family in any way that they can. We can't thank you all enough for everything that you've done. Thank you, Microsoft, for our benefits, and thank you, employees of Microsoft. The work you do has truly made a difference in my family's life.
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The benefits at Microsoft are second to-none, anywhere in the country, and probably the world. Paid family leave. The best medical care money can buy. Supportive work environment.
The top execs at Microsoft could gut the benefits and give the employees basic HMO coverage for probably 1/50th the per employee cost, and in the process reap another couple of hundred million a year for themselves.
They wouldn't be the first place to go that route. But did they?
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see the patent in action
Microsoft has a video of the app that uses this patent
http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1427 5#14275 -
so I asked Channel 9 folk...
and I got this response
http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1463 3 -
Re:You have to wonder...
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Re:They want the source out as far as possible
Odd, i don't see the connection between working at MS in the MBU and posting anon...
Is that an MBU policy?
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Evidence?
I found the article quite interesting, but lacking in supporting evidence for many claims. Specifically, he states that on both speed and efficiency (not quite sure the difference, but I'm guessing that he's referring to memory usage for the latter) ASP.NET is weak. I'd be interested to see comparisons showing the difference between equivalent sites written with PHP5 and ASP.NET to see the difference.
Also, he mentions (a few times) about IIS insecurities (at posts a link to bugtraq), however I'm unable to check since the site seems to be crawling. How does PHP5+Apache's security record compare to ASP.NET+IIS6?
-- Cyrus (http://blogs.msdn.com/cyrusn) -
Re:Just a bit biased....Tell us how much of a difference in speed. If it speeds up a program by less than 5%, I don't care.
It depends on what you're doing - In my office, I've seen differences as low as 3% for apps that had very few allocations, but I've also seen differences as high as 20% when manipulating large sums of data and pushing it to/from a database.
Interestingly enough, every time I see a test that comes out and says that Java is as fast/faster than
.NET, and I look at the source code for the test, its always fibonacci sequences and other things that don't involve alot of object allocations. When you test two real world apps against each other (excluding GUI code because that's not fair to Java, and only using threads when the Java code is run on Windows since Linux/Win32 threading models vary so much), the differences are much more visible.The autoboxing is a good feature, and Java 1.5 has it as well. You seem to imply that you cannot call a method in java such as this:
set(int i);
without incurring an object creation cost. This is simply not true. If you have a function of the form:
set(Integer i);
and you call it as
obj.set(5);
I believe that a new object will be created in either java or .net. I don't buy (or understand) your point here.The key difference is that in Java, you're always autoboxing - In
.NET, you only have to autobox when you cast to type object.In Java, calling set(Integer i) as set(5) actually translates to set( new Integer( 5 ) ) in bytecode which incurs a heap allocation (not to mention Integer consumes more memory than a simple int does by I think either 4 or 8 bytes) and eventually, a garbage collection on the "new Integer( 5 )". In
.NET, value types do not need to be boxed - there was the stack allocation when you created "5", but there's no heap allocation involved in passing it.More importantly, imagine 5.ToString() in
.NET - in the IL, ToString is a method on the value-type itself, and no additional allocation is needed (in fact, ToString in the int case is also inlined, so there's not even much work on the stack). In Java, 5.toString() is silently converted to (new Integer(5)).toString() which is one allocation, an eventual garbage collection and one virtual method call more than the same .NET code. Its not much faster in .NET, but that stuff adds up fast.It is also a surprise to programmers who find out that the method they think should be called is not. The virtual marker was kept out of Java for the sake of simplicity, and I have to say as a former C++ programmer, I have not missed it.
Again, you say that it is much faster. Do you have numbers? Do they outweigh the downside?
Eric Gunnerson summed up the MS approach to it pretty well in one of his blog postings (the discussion continues on for several more postings over the next week) that I happen to agree with. As such, I happen to think its not a downside at all.
As for performance - I've seen it add another 3-6% when comparing two internal apps. Consider it this way - A virtual method lookup is at least 4 processor instructions, plus the cost of setting up the stack for a new function (at least another 7, but can creep pretty high). At a bare minimum,
.NET shaves off those 4, and at best, it knocks off the entire setup for the stack frame, which can be 30-40 instructions.One interesting thing about implementing in
.NET v Java is that the speed of the JIT'd code relies heavily on awesome bits of optimization in code in the JIT compiler. Sun put alot of money into optimizing parts of the JVM that MS didn't into the CLR, and vice versa. Mono, for instance, despite all the speed advantages in the IL over Java bytecode, is slower than Sun's JVM - no surprise. M -
Re:in Japan
Sony would be foolish to discount Microsoft's resolve to be successful in Japan. Read up on the failure of Word 6.0 in Japan, followed by the success of Word 95.
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Re:of course he does
Thats actually not what he envisioned. Or did you not read the article? What he envisioned was decoupling the information from the storage medium so that you wouldn't be so dependent on a flimsy disk with all the limitations brought about because of it.
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Re:More to it than cost...
How would that be difficult to copy? At some point the image has to be displayed somewhere. What is to prevent capturing at that point and copying?
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Re:Vested interestIf you'd read the article, you'd see that that wasn't the case:
If you consider that nowadays we have to carry around film and music on little silver discs and stick them in the computer, it's ridiculous," Gates said
He's not advocating dropping DVD for HD-DVD, he's advocating dropping it because he feels that the concept of media-based-media (no pun intended) is archaic.
-- Cyrus (http://blogs.msdn.com/cyrusn) -
I hope he's rightFrom the article he says:
"If you consider that nowadays we have to carry around film and music on little silver discs and stick them in the computer, it's ridiculous," Gates said in comments reproduced in German in the mass-circulation daily Bild.
"These things can scratch or simply get lost."
Gates' vision of television of the future was: "TV that will simply show what we want to see, when we want to see it.
I certainly hope he's right. I hate CDs and I'm trying to get them out of my life. They do scratch, I do lose them, and they're just annoying to use. The perfect system to me would be something similar to iTunes but which would remember everything I had purchased so that my music would be available anywhere I ever went. Like the now defunct mp3.com.
With the speed of network connections increasing at a phenomenal pace, I can easily see the same technologies being present for video. Just a few days ago I wanted to see Rounders and I found that the DVD was missing from its case. Aaaaaaaaaaaargh. What I would have given to just go into my HTPC scroll through a list of movies (maybe sorted by ranking so that Rounders would be near the top), find the one I want and just hit play.
I won't shed a tear if DVDs go and are replaced with what he's talking about.
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Re:Goodbye Perl?
Microsoft makes all its compilers available for free. You can find them all at http://msdn.microsoft.com
-- Cyrus (http://blogs.msdn.com/cyrusn) -
zerg
Want to help a Microsoftie switch to Firefox? See if you can help, I'm sure once he gets it working he'll go and convert others...
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Jason Zions' Blog
Jason has not posted lately on his blog . But here was an earlier post that referenced the January Slashdot article on SFU.
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Jason Zions' Blog
Jason has not posted lately on his blog . But here was an earlier post that referenced the January Slashdot article on SFU.
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Old news
I've been able to hear Saturn hailstorms for quite some time now...
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Re:M$ still employs IE engineers?
Well, maybe they are getting back to work on IE. After all, there are no more free towels at Microsoft's gym
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Re:IE to block popups.
Do you really think that the people designing the web sites for banks will be unaware of XP SP2? You can download the release candidate right now and test your web site against it.
I can't imagine any reputable site being broken by this when the final is released.
-- Cyrus (http://blogs.msdn.com/cyrusn) -
Re:IE to block popups.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
y !!
-- Cyrus (http://blogs.msdn.com/cyrusn) -
Re:In support
Internet Explorer runs in Ring3.
-- Cyrus (http://blogs.msdn.com/cyrusn) -
Re:It's hardly ignorant users, is it?
Using your car analogy, would you be upset if instead of a tiny warning label printed at the back of the battery tray, you got a big blinking light on your dashboard saying "go in for service!!" If a driver saw that and chose to ignore it, who would you be upset at?
This akin to how WindowsUpdate works. You get a notification that critical updates are available and that you really should install them to protect the computer.
Who's at fault when the user ignores those messages?
No software is bug free and issues will have to be fixed as time goes on. However, unless we're going to automatically install updates without asking the user first, then it's goign to be a process where the user needs to be involved in some way.
This is true with any OS. Imagine someone complaining that they got hacked on their linux distro of choice, afterwards when asked it turns out they never once ran anything like up2date, emerge, apt, etc. to make sure they had all the necessary software patches in place. Would you blame the distro for shipping with those bugs. You could, but you'd be ignoring the real fact that bugs are inevitable right now. Instead, you would teach the person that responsibility lies partly with them in keeping their computer safe. This is no different on a windows system. Teach users to keep their system up to date (all it takes is one click to make that completely automated!).
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Re:he's right
If it was a bug then your support call would have been refunded: http://www.winnetmag.com/Article/ArticleID/14203/
1 4203.html
-- Cyrus (http://blogs.msdn.com/cyrusn)