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See, I just don't see this in the kind of "class-warfare" motif you seem to be pushing. I don't see what's so "obviously 'windows-centric'" about Liz Claiborne. Or Disney or Best Buy or Sonyfor that matter. All are hosted on *nix and work perfectly without complaint here with my Firefox/Gentoo. And now each has recorded a hit from me for WebSideStory. Happier?

These are just sites that see a lot of visitors, and are run by reputable outfits, and coded in such a fashion that they can accurately count users. I don't see how the conflict against the "pretty people" holds sway here.

And to the observant reader, it is obvious which of Apache or BSD is actually prospering.

Contrary to what our poor troll is trying to imply, the easy answer is: both. :)
About BSD:
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."

... facts are facts. ;)

FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

NetBSD:
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004)

OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)

*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

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Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

I'm glad mine doesn't.

I dunno, we're still waiting for conformation on you from netcraft http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http:/ /www.jerf.com/. ;-)

The first link in the Netcraft story linked to by the Slashdot article says that. For your convenience, here it is.

"IIS is the default most popular web software for corporate America and ecommerce sites."

You might want to double-check that whole IIS thing.
Netcraft seems to think otherwise.
http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/Reports/0501/

... facts are facts. ;)

FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

NetBSD:
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004)

OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)

*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

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Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

Not only that, but the irony of the "Netcraft" jokes is Netcraft actually runs FreeBSD themselves.

Right. Because obviously it was SO funny the other 10 million times we saw it last month, your using it has got to be even funnier. As well as the 1000 or so encores of the same we'll see on this thread.

*yawn*

Considering that the lame "joke" has no basis in reality, I wonder just why the people who continue to toss it around do so. Desperation? Jealousy? Do they feel threatened? Who knows.

Either way, it's a badge of lameness. Too bad the people using it can't figure that out.

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=Netcraft .com

Seems like they run FreeBSD them self :)

Here's a Netcraft link. Sad news. I just bought the game. :(

After the indignity of yet another "Yay! I've got a greased-up yoda doll shoved up my ass" troll getting FP on Slashdot, the Star Wars fanbase was hit by a further shattering blow when Netcraft confirmed what many had suspected:

Star Wars is in fact dying.

In a move that was described as "desperate & insane", George Lucas was described as readying himself to release another episode of crap masquerading as entertainment on an unsuspecting world. Yet you don't need to be a kreskin to know that the last decent movie he made was `American Graffiti'!

There can be no doubt that Star Wars is ready for the charnel house. Fact: Star Wars is DYING!

In other news: there's a retard camped out in downtown Seattle.

;)

See this story on Netcraft, which details the recent policy change by ICANN.

In short, if someone initiates a transfer request, you then have 5 calendar days to respond, or else the transfer happens unopposed. You can prevent this by activating the REGISTRAR-LOCK feature on your domain name. The procedure varies by registrar, but it's usually called "domain lock" or something similar. All registrars have to at least give you the option of requesting this feature.

Some registrars (godaddy, I know for sure does) activate this lock by default, Some require you to activate it explicitly. Check with the support dept. at your registrar for further details.

But now the Apple Store is not Slashdotted and Apple Expoed.

http://www.edgcm.org slashdotted?

It is on NetBSD/OpenBSD according to netcraft.

Must be a small budget project. Low end server hardware?

... facts are facts. ;)

FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

NetBSD:
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004)

OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)

*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

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Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

Netcraft reads that macworldexpo.com, 24 hours later, is STILL down. Maybe they just gave up and pulled the plug.

Who would go to the expo site? It's just sales-brochure type stuff. The blogs are where people get validated!

There were different amounts of traffic to all three sites, so a comparison is probably irrelevant.

But as far as the OS comparison goes, store.apple.com was running Solaris during the unavailability period. The article was probably written before the automatic scan took place.

How does this kind of crap getting modded up to +5?! Amazing.
I recall years ago having a 450 MHz AMD K6-2 LINUX box with 128 MB of RAM consistently beating out a 900 MHz Athlon with 768 MB of RAM (running Windows) when it came to downloads over my broadband connection.

Quite the scientific study you did there. Case closed on the case of the kludge TCP/IP stack! This has nothing to do with served content from Apache versus IIS 6 running on hardware designed to serve content. Lets instead ask the important questions, like how much hardware is backing each site up? How many requests was each site receiving, and how much content was it serving for those requests? How much hardware does each site have backing it up? I'll bet that macworldexpo didn't have Akamai and their 3000 linux servers mirroring content like apple.com does. Microsoft runs Windows 2003 and IIS 6, and their web servers didn't choke while serving 100meg downloads of XP SP2 to how many millions of machines?

I might also point out that Hotmail for a time (and may very well still be) was using FreeBSD for its DNS servers... that's because when MS tried using their own "dogfood" (Windows 2000), it keeled over.

Maybe you should do a little fact checking before randomly repeating something you think you remember hearing something about.

Hotmail used a BSD variant and Apache before they were purchased by Microsoft in 1998. Since then they have moved over to Windows and IIS. As it took a while to switch over the entire production enviroment, the Microsoft runs Apache jokes surfaced. Hotmail also went from a subsrciption base of 9 million in 1998 to over 100 million in 2001 while they switched over. Microsoft fun "facts" regarding Hotmail

XP has some serious flaws, but Server 2003 is a pretty strong OS, and IIS 6 is rock solid compared to IIS 5 and even Apache. More Linkage

Uptime pissing contest?

Nordea Bank Finland

FWIW...

list of subdomains http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=APPLE -WWNET,17.0.0.0,17.255.255.255

example http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=customer. apple.com

FWIW...

list of subdomains http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=APPLE -WWNET,17.0.0.0,17.255.255.255

example http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=customer. apple.com

... facts are facts. ;)

FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

NetBSD:
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004)

OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)

*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

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Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

Announcement will appear here.. :)

Oh please! There are ~100 paid hackers working on linux (just the kernel and closely related things) at any time now. Working on linux is no longer charity (well, more precisely: it isn't just charity). Now contrast that with the 2 or 3 (only one paid to work full time for 9 months) in FreeBSD, or [how many?] in OpenBSD. Than check kernel vulnerabilities in the past few years in either of these projects.

This article is an important eye-opener I think. We (yes, metoo) like to point at Windows and its horrible track record. But how many kernel vulerabilities have been detected in Windows Server 2003? How many in IIS 6? What about these reports?. I don't think linux needs apologies, especially not "its a volunteer project" kinda apologies, because projects with far fewer resources thrown at it can now manage a better security record. Why?

What may give an indication (but just an indication, one shouldn't take this too seriously either) of server stability/performance is the reliability chart of Netcraft, not their uptime chart. Bragging about uptime (or even taking uptime very seriously) is like publicly admitting that you are a fool.

Netcraft confirms it.

The parent was modded up to "Score:3, Insightful" for claiming that the popularity of Linux is new (it is "known" in his words), implying that this now makes Linux a target for security attacks.

But, in fact, the parent poster is ignorant of the facts.

Linux runs 30% or more of all websites. This has been the case since at least March of 2001 -- almost four years ago!

This means that for the last four years, there have been almost as many Linux webservers (30%) as Windows webservers (50%) on the Internet.

And yet almost all of the major virus and worm outbreaks have occurred against Windows platforms.

And let's not forget that there are over twice as many Apache servers as IIS servers, yet only IIS has been compromised on a regular basis.

Face it -- Microsoft's record on security is abysmal. And it can't be explained by popularity.

Interesting.

... some actual facts. ;)

FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

NetBSD:
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004)

OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)

*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

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Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

Google or even Slashdot might have been a better example since the user is guaranteed to have used at least one of them.

Im not sure hotmail still uses a free OS and webserver like it used to but looking at thenetcraft survey
Which shows on 7th Dec
FreeBSD - Microsoft-IIS/5.0 - 7-Dec-2004 - 207.68.172.239 - Microsoft Corp

Maybe they do have something to hide- I sure as hell didnt know IIS ran on FreeBSD...

... facts are facts. ;)

FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

NetBSD:
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004)

OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)

*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

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Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

.

... facts are facts. ;)

FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

NetBSD:
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004)

OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)

*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

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Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

So you install a new version of Tomcat over a running copy?

How hard is it to (in Windows):
1. Stop the Service (10-15 seconds)
2. Update Files (1-2 minutes)
3. Restart Services (10-15 seconds)

SQL Server is the same way except it does those things for you.

If you want evidence simply test it out for yourself. All you need to do is check the dll/exe/etc versions that are being updated.

Personally I generally do reboot because I'm lazy. But if you're really concerned with up-time it can be done.

BTW Here is a link to a longest up time on netcraft. It's doubtful that they have installed no patches on #15 (Windows running Apache).

Don't worry, Netcraft hasn't confirmed it, so it isn't true.

I think it's true that market share has little importance for the BSDs, but before taking for granted what a troll says, it's always good to check it out. ;)

One more thing: I don't think that guy simply "wants to troll" as you put it. Since his/her/its FUD-spreading activity has been going on for *years*, that would probably qualify as something else.
(Of course I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility of a mental issue :)
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Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

When you can't pay the bills with your craft, you change to another craft. How many decent artists does that deny us the pleasure of seeing or hearing?

You do realize Slashdot runs Linux, an OS for which people don't get paid to contribute to (in general)?

Note to Slashdot: Upgrade Apache already! 1.3.29 has security holes. Don't get 0wned.

FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

NetBSD:
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004)

OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)

*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

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Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

Too many people (especially pundits) see such a list and take it as irrefutable evidence that the thing in question is destined to take over the industry.

Too many people (especially managers) see such a list and take it as irrefutable evidence that the pundits got it right this time. :-)

Around Y2K, I came under pressure from management to switch an Apache server to IIS. An employee had approached them with propaganda^W an independant white paper that showed that IIS was cheaper to operate, more secure and easier to develop for than Apache. Needless to say, this got my attention.

The white paper turned out to be a paid-for reprint of a magazine article. I went through ten reference customers, and found that three had their static content on Apache servers, two had unix based application level firewalls to scrub URLs, and one had an expensive load balancer in front. A further three were mere presence web sites, serving static content to a handful of users. The only site that really had gone whole hog was Disney. By the way, according to Netcraft, even they have seen the light.

At this stage, the pundit reprint backfired. If nine out of ten reference customers don't make the advertized solution shine, then what is a manager to do?

Buy iPlanet instead, of course. Sigh.

FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

NetBSD:
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004)

OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)

*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

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Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

OK, reading the slashdot comments, I found this:
Privacy Policy. A little more comforting...

Also, check this out:
68 http://login.passport.net November 2002 Microsoft Corp Go US
69 http://slashdot.org November 1997 Savvis Go US

I guess this proves that Microsoft's passport is more popular then slashdot :-)

OK, I'm a WinXP user, SP2, pop-ups turned completely off, run SpyBot, AdAware and look at my BHO's at least once a week because I don't trust computer programs, even though/because I write them for a living...

Installed it, read the instructions and FAQ (I know, I'm not supposed to do that :-), and have a couple of first impressions. I'm going to apply the "Mother Test" to the tool bar to evaluate it's usefullnes.

The tool bar installs with initally two items, Netcraft, and Services. Services is simply a drop down with links to all of Netcrafts services, trying to drum up business. I initally thought that services would hot link to some of the Netcraft tools like uptime and what is that site running, but no, just links to the main pages for them. There are 7 main items under serives, and 19 sub-items. Offerings
are impressive, but I don't think my mother would care at all about Hosting Providers or Web site auditing.

I can't evaluate the pop-up blocker since I have pop-ups completely turned off via XP SP2. I also run the Google toolbar, so pop-ups haven't bothered me in quite some time (except those occational ones that sneak through when you hold down the ctrl key to click a pop-up link. Who ever thought of using the same key to allow all pop-ups and allow one pop-up should be shot.)

As for the phishing, looks like it will work fine. The toolbar will have to pull down a new definitions file every couple of hours (2 by default), but that should be fine. Reporting a site is relatively easy. This is a thumbs up for the Mother Test

The Stats that it displays are pretty worthless. Pretty flags, but other than that, who cares. Rank is meaningless unless they get rid of their own sites. Pretty obvious that the most visited site is http://toolbar.netcraft.com.

The thing that most disturbs me are the stats that are gathered: http://toolbar.netcraft.com/stats/topsites
*Without*any*privacy*statement*, I have no idea what they are doing with my browsing information. This certainly scares me enough to uninstall this sucker. I understand that privacy is going away, I just like to fight it tooth and nail. (Except google, their cool. Until their IPO. oh wait... :-)

Oh yea. Regarding my subject: look at line 12 of the stats:
Rank Site First Seen Netblock Site Report Country
12 http://banners.netcraft.com June 2003 Netcraft Go UK

OK, I'm a WinXP user, SP2, pop-ups turned completely off, run SpyBot, AdAware and look at my BHO's at least once a week because I don't trust computer programs, even though/because I write them for a living...

Installed it, read the instructions and FAQ (I know, I'm not supposed to do that :-), and have a couple of first impressions. I'm going to apply the "Mother Test" to the tool bar to evaluate it's usefullnes.

The tool bar installs with initally two items, Netcraft, and Services. Services is simply a drop down with links to all of Netcrafts services, trying to drum up business. I initally thought that services would hot link to some of the Netcraft tools like uptime and what is that site running, but no, just links to the main pages for them. There are 7 main items under serives, and 19 sub-items. Offerings
are impressive, but I don't think my mother would care at all about Hosting Providers or Web site auditing.

I can't evaluate the pop-up blocker since I have pop-ups completely turned off via XP SP2. I also run the Google toolbar, so pop-ups haven't bothered me in quite some time (except those occational ones that sneak through when you hold down the ctrl key to click a pop-up link. Who ever thought of using the same key to allow all pop-ups and allow one pop-up should be shot.)

As for the phishing, looks like it will work fine. The toolbar will have to pull down a new definitions file every couple of hours (2 by default), but that should be fine. Reporting a site is relatively easy. This is a thumbs up for the Mother Test

The Stats that it displays are pretty worthless. Pretty flags, but other than that, who cares. Rank is meaningless unless they get rid of their own sites. Pretty obvious that the most visited site is http://toolbar.netcraft.com.

The thing that most disturbs me are the stats that are gathered: http://toolbar.netcraft.com/stats/topsites
*Without*any*privacy*statement*, I have no idea what they are doing with my browsing information. This certainly scares me enough to uninstall this sucker. I understand that privacy is going away, I just like to fight it tooth and nail. (Except google, their cool. Until their IPO. oh wait... :-)

Oh yea. Regarding my subject: look at line 12 of the stats:
Rank Site First Seen Netblock Site Report Country
12 http://banners.netcraft.com June 2003 Netcraft Go UK

OK, I'm a WinXP user, SP2, pop-ups turned completely off, run SpyBot, AdAware and look at my BHO's at least once a week because I don't trust computer programs, even though/because I write them for a living...

Installed it, read the instructions and FAQ (I know, I'm not supposed to do that :-), and have a couple of first impressions. I'm going to apply the "Mother Test" to the tool bar to evaluate it's usefullnes.

The tool bar installs with initally two items, Netcraft, and Services. Services is simply a drop down with links to all of Netcrafts services, trying to drum up business. I initally thought that services would hot link to some of the Netcraft tools like uptime and what is that site running, but no, just links to the main pages for them. There are 7 main items under serives, and 19 sub-items. Offerings
are impressive, but I don't think my mother would care at all about Hosting Providers or Web site auditing.

I can't evaluate the pop-up blocker since I have pop-ups completely turned off via XP SP2. I also run the Google toolbar, so pop-ups haven't bothered me in quite some time (except those occational ones that sneak through when you hold down the ctrl key to click a pop-up link. Who ever thought of using the same key to allow all pop-ups and allow one pop-up should be shot.)

As for the phishing, looks like it will work fine. The toolbar will have to pull down a new definitions file every couple of hours (2 by default), but that should be fine. Reporting a site is relatively easy. This is a thumbs up for the Mother Test

The Stats that it displays are pretty worthless. Pretty flags, but other than that, who cares. Rank is meaningless unless they get rid of their own sites. Pretty obvious that the most visited site is http://toolbar.netcraft.com.

The thing that most disturbs me are the stats that are gathered: http://toolbar.netcraft.com/stats/topsites
*Without*any*privacy*statement*, I have no idea what they are doing with my browsing information. This certainly scares me enough to uninstall this sucker. I understand that privacy is going away, I just like to fight it tooth and nail. (Except google, their cool. Until their IPO. oh wait... :-)

Oh yea. Regarding my subject: look at line 12 of the stats:
Rank Site First Seen Netblock Site Report Country
12 http://banners.netcraft.com June 2003 Netcraft Go UK

FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has a secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

NetBSD:
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004)

OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)

*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

Pretty much, and he/she/it's a big one, considered what Netcraft actually says. ;)

Oh, and btw: Netcraft runs on FreeBSD servers!

Pretty much, and he/she/it's a big one, considered what Netcraft actually says. ;)

Oh, and btw: Netcraft runs on FreeBSD servers!

FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has a secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

NetBSD:
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004)

OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)

*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

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