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I've not actually seen one, just the web site. Netscape has a long list of on-line watch dealers. The Beat series all seem to come in around the US$60 mark.

This has got to be an uber geek accessory. I claim no association with Swatch apart from owning one of the electric/automatics :-)

This cycle is definitely possible, and probable, but one big question would be how long it takes to happen.

Look at what would be needed to break the barrier to entry that free software would present -- If the world becomes accustomed to using decent applications for free, what market will there be for someone who wants to charge $20 a copy? In light of the Microsoft Maneuver, is there any possibility that anyone can, in the forseeable future, produce a web browser that they profit from, regardless of what platform it ran on?

Once there are satisfactory products in the market that have zero cost to the consumer, it becomes extremely difficult to promote and profit from a pay-for product. Unfortunately, without some form of income, further development is often stymied, either due to lack of time (because of the need to maintain a personal form of income, ie. day job) or resources (why work on a product that can't be sold when you could work on one that can?) I think perhaps AOL is finding this scenario with their acquisition of Netscape.

Profitable software ventures now become a question of being the first in some niche, rather than producing a superior product. Be the first, grab the market share, make a profit quick before someone else undercuts you. As you said, "Lather, Rinse, Repeat".

"Invent, Bail, Repeat"

Free software is at a stage now where it's forcing commercial software to improve itself. But I think there's going to come a time where it's going to OVERachieve this goal, and will simply put many commercial sources out of the market. Is this good? Is this bad? Probably a little of both. A high quality free product can more easily create a monopoly than one that has an associated cost. However, it is in even more danger of causing a stagnation in development. From a profit standpoint, there's no reason to compete with a free product, especially if it's of a high enough quality.

If Apache could do everything IIS could do (and vice versa), but IIS was 1% more stable, would you pay $100 for that bit of improvement? $50? $5? The market has been fighting in terms of functions, not quality. It's as though Ford tried to make their Pintos more appealing by giving them flight capability rather than fixing the exploding gas tank problem. Compare:

"Sure, the Pinto explodes occasionally, but it does something the Chevy doesn't -- it can fly!"

"Sure, IE opens your computer to viruses, but it does something Netscape doesn't -- it can use ActiveX controls!"

Unfortunately, unlike a flying Pinto, it's much easier to sell added features than it is to sell improved quality. Laypeople just don't understand (or care about) why Linux is seen as better than Windows, or why so many people hate Microsoft products.

I'm babbling again. Sorry.

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If it's not important, you can probably find it in...

Judge Jackson today appointed another judge as a "private" mediator to help settle this thing. More here.

KDE & Gnome are slow (at least for now), whatever you people say. Gnome is helped a bit by not using E (some people say that sawmill is better). About KDE: i simply find the user interface too cluttered and confusing.

Some apps i use:

• Netscape for WWW browsing
• NEdit for text editing
• gentoo as a file manager

Go here: https://www.verisign.co m/server/cus/rootcert/webmaster.html which describes what's happening.

Then go here: http://verisign.netscape.com/securi ty/rootcert/" and download a new browser.

It used to be that you could just download the certificates that you needed, but the URL i had for that is now dead...

Wintel machines (I'm not sure about Macs) can set up "user profiles" so multiple users of the machine can have their own settings without installing a new copy of netscape. Each profile has independent user preferences (all of them) and bookmarks.

Netscape also has a feature called "roaming profiles" that allows user settings to be kept in sync on an LDAP server or on a web server. I personally use the roaming profiles with my linux boxes at home and the wintel/linux machines at work. It's damned handy.

A quick search at developer.netscape.com outghtta turn up something more descriptive...

I just loaded it under Opera 3.60 on Win98 with no problems. It did point out that I'm missing RealPlayer G2 and Macromedia Flash Player though.

Loading under IE5 on Win95 (I have to VNC for the Opera machine) it installed VB Scripting and still provided the same message. The only difference I could see between the two was the extra colours because I was VNCing in 8bit mode.

Now linux: VNC in 8 bit mode again (Netscape 4.51/Export). I certainly see what you mean, it tells me this.

I especially love the button on the bottom of that page ("Return to fox.com - just bounces you back again!)

Tried changing the User Agent string (using junkbuster) to Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98) without success. Looked at the code and noticed that it's all done with Javascript. Turned off javascript - now the document "contains no data".

Decided I don't really want to see fox.comanyway!

Oh - lynx version 2.8.1rel.2 just gives [EMBED] for / and blank for /frameset.html.

Hmmmm... Did they ever force anyone to buy Microsoft products? No. Did they harm consumers by forcing them to buy Microsoft? No. Consumers have always had alternatives like Unix, MacOS, WordPerfect, NetWare, etc. etc. By their own fairly clear definition, Microsoft is not, and has never been, a violator of the unConstitutional anti-trust laws.

Clearly, you and I have different definitions of the word "force," as I would answer those first two questions with an unqualified yes. No, BillG never put a gun to anybody's head. But Microsoft did quite clearly threaten to bankrupt OEMs who did not toe the Microsoft line on how the sales channel should operate. The original 1995 antitrust complaint (PC manufactures being required to pay MSFT for Windows licenses for every PC shipped, regardless of the actual OS installed) is about as cut and dried a case of forcing consumers to buy your product that I can think of, short of the few de jure monopolies that we've had in this country.

I am quite clear on the point that Microsoft, "by their own fairly clear definition," do not consider themselves a monopoly. However, I (and more importantly, Judge Jackson) do not accept Microsoft's self-serving definition of "monopoly" any more than than I feel compelled to accept President Clinton's self-serving definitions of "sex" and "is."

As for your repeated assertions that antitrust laws are unconstitutional, feel free to point out to me an analysis of exactly which Article or Amendment the Sherman Anti-Trust Act or any other antitrust legislation violates.

So far as I know, nobody has ever been forced to use IE to browse a single website.

Try browsing Microsoft's pages sometime with Netscape, or better yet, Lynx. Now, imagine having a job that depends on getting technical information from Microsoft. Or doesn't that count as "force," since the threat is only to my livelihood, and not directly to my person?

What's so bad about enriching all of Microsoft's stockholders? What's so bad about making many Microsoft employees instant millionaires? What's so bad about making products that are at least usable enough so that plenty of people buy them and increase their personal and corporate productivity? What's so terrible about having Bill concentrate his wealth?

Nothing, if he can do it ethically and legally.

The point is, he didn't.

If BillG and MSFT had achieved and maintained their dominance simply through superior product value, saavy marketing, and innovating new goods as claimed, there would be no problem. When they use their dominance in the OS to destroy rivals in applications, when they dictate to PC manufactures what OS may be installed and what icons shall appear on the desktop, and when they can rely on their superior cash reserves to buy out or destroy potentially competetive products, they are no longer competing by offering value, but simply attempting to manipulate a market to their advantage. This is unethical, and it is illegal, rightfully so.

And speaking of "private" vs. "public" concentrations of wealth, how about having at least one person in this country whose own wits, sacrifice and hard work have made him worth as much as 1/1000th of the yearly budget of the Federal Government of These United States, not to mention 1/10000th of the National Debt.

It would be neat if such a person existed, but William Gates III is not that person.

I suspect this is just pointless -- I concede that Bill Gates never took a handgun, walked through the electronic stores of the nation, and threatened people with their lives if they didn't walk up to the register and buy Windows and Office. Anything less than this, it appears that you won't recognize as unethical and illegal behavior. So be it.

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.-- B. Franklin

I can quote Franklin too. I agree with Ben's sentiment -- which is why I'm glad the government is doing its job, and dealing with a dangerous monopolist before liberty is further eroded ...

It may be very difficult for modern people to imagine a world in which men are not generally admired for coveteousness and crushing their neighbors; but I assure them that such strange patches of an earthly paradise do really remain on earth.
-- G. K. Chesterton, "The Outline of Sanity"

But I think people are overreacting to the presence of these apps... why not have one program as an internet suite?

Because I never used any of that stuff in Netscape Communicator? Because I have a mail client and can get a newsreader if I want one?

Considering that Mozilla is only a 5 Meg download right now (including all the debugging tools), I would hardly call it bloated.

Considering that statements about Gecko at its introduction put its size at around 1.4MB, yes, I think adding over twice the code (granted, counting the debugging stuff) could be considered bloated.

Jay (=

The Ex-Mozilla site has a self-maintaining list of people who have fled Netscape. Ironically, there is also a My Netscape Network channel which lists the most recently changed entries on Ex-Mozilla.

There is and informal but generally accepted standard you should take a look at called "A Standard for Robot Exclusion"

Take a look at http://info.webcrawler.c om/mak/projects/robots/robots.html and http://info.webcrawler .com/mak/projects/robots/norobots.html

This does not address copyright issues, which have become even murkier with the recent revisions to the copyright law restricting fair use.

You should also take a look at the XML syndication format (aka RSS [RDF Site Summary]). It's based on RDF and is becoming supported by alot of larger news sites, even /. Here are some links: http://www.edventure.c om/release1/abstracts/syndication.html for background info. http://www.w3.org/RDF/ for the low level info, and http://my.netscape.com/publish/ help/quickstart.html for the RSS implementation.

I travel a lot, and I use mainly a laptop (company issued) with Windows 98 on it (yeah, yeah, but I have to use it for Arabic support, as well as exchanging documents with colleagues and customers - so it will stay for a while). I also use a Palm Pilot, and have my home computer (dual boot on Linux).

Moving the data back and forth on these three platforms is a royal pain (in all places!)

My dream would be a web service that allows ALL of the following to be done:

• Access and Reply e-mail from whatever host(s) you access our e-mail from
• Sync my Pilot remotely, so as to have all my e-mails, addresses, appointments both on the Pilot and on that virtual desk top
• Upload and sync all my bookmarks

• Visto Briefcase has most of this, but the sync doesn't work well.
  Netscape Netcenter also has some of this functionality, but the bookmarks do not upload all of them. The same happens to synching my address book. Not all addresses are uploaded (truncation). It has Portfolio, Weather, News which are all nice, but still not the one true desktop
  Other sites I am looking at are
  WorkSpot.Net are a Linux deskop over the net, and was featured in a Slashdot article a few hours ago.
  

  So, I am yet to find an ideal web site that I can use as a one stop shopping for all this.

  Security you say? Who cares? I just have to be aware that there is a potential security issue, and not to put sensitive data there? Same goes for ICQ, ...etc. Regards.
  

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I have always designed my web pages to work with all browsers. And Netscape has always been my browser of choice, because it was the best. Though it lacks nifty features like IE's rebars, I really like the Netscape Communicator 4.x interface. I find bookmark handling in particular easier to deal with in Netscape than in IE.

Unfortunately, Netscape dropped the ball, and stopped improving their browser engine after Communicator 4.0 was released in June 1997. Though it wasn't standards-compliant then, I fully expected Netscape to remedy that as soon as possible. They never did. In fact, I've never even heard them say that they were working on full HTML 4.0 support.

Instead, Netscape has wasted time with side projects, first trying to push (no pun intended) its ill-fated Netcaster client, then its portal site, and then all kinds of useless junk like AOL Instant Messenger and the Shop button.

Meanwhile, Microsoft wasn't just relying on bundling IE with every conceivable piece of Windows software. IE4 was released with a solid lead over Netscape in HTML and CSS support. While Netscape's ill-named SmartUpdate was and still is broken and difficult to use, IE4 introduced Windows Update, which makes installations, upgrades, and add-ons a snap.

Now IE5 is the undisputed best web browser. Under the hood, it is so far superior to any other browser that there is no contest. To initiate an exodus from IE, Mozilla will have to be fully compliant with HTML, CSS2, XML, and be amazing to boot. And it will need to be released soon.

As for Netscape, I am resigned to its crushing defeat. Over a year ago, it was already clear that it lost the browser war. People have waited patiently since 1997, but there is still no sign that Netscape 5 is forthcoming, let alone any indication that it will be as good as IE5.

Unless there is a dramatic reversal in this situation, I think you can expect to see more and more Netscape holdouts give up and start writing web pages to today's standards, whether Navigator can deal with them or not. I am unhappy about this state of affairs, but that's just the way it is. Netscape stood still while the world kept on turning.

This preliminary Finding Of Fact is an interesting devolopment, and has micros~1 crying in it's beer. I, for one, am happy to see Bill gates and micros~1 be exposed for what they trully are. Sneeky, snivling, childish thieves.

Acording to many analysts the DOJ has MS cornered and will push on with the case. While IANAL, I blieve that this case (including apeals) will drag on for years and will keep MSs' hands tied behind there back. They will be forced to sit back and watch as other companies move in on the desktop space. Look for OEMs to start customizing desktops. Look for venture capitol to consider companies "going for the desktop".

My hope is that the DOJ makes this a very very long and painfull process for micros~1. I hope they don't settle for a consent decree that will only end up (when MS violates that agreement) with everybody back in this same place 2 years from now.

I can't help but feel we brought this on ourselves. You know, for a long time, I thought that the idea of paying for a decent browser was Unspeakable -- it was like my birthright as an American included having a stable, free (as in beer) Web browser. Now I look at the market, though, and I wonder if what we're seeing isn't just the logical extension of that expectation:

• Netscape, realizing that it couldn't stay alive if its primary product was something you couldn't sell, focused its attention on things it could make money on, such as Netcenter and Enterprise Server. Not surprisingly, development of the browser suffered as Netscape's priorities shifted away from it, sputtering and finally dying out.
• Microsoft, knowing that it didn't need browser revenue one way or the other, used its browser to defend the thing it makes money on -- the Windows platform.

The thing is, these corporate strategies are perfectly rational reactions to a market where web browsers are regarded as economically valueless. Would you expect Netscape (a public company, don't forget) to have poured millions of dollars more into R & D for a product they would never see one cent of revenue from?

Maybe if we had voted with our dollars for the proposition that a good browser was important to us, rather than expecting one to automagically appear and get better every year, things would be different today. Maybe if, back in 1996 when it mattered, we had stepped forward and said "Yes, I'll gladly pay a fair price for a good, stable cross-platform browser," someone would be providing one today, rather than what we ended up with: one browser that's cross-platform and another that's stable. Just a thought.

-- Jason A. Lefkowitz

The FOF refers quite specifically to the browser wars, which for the most part were waged between competitors who were both offering free products.

The FOF talk about how a free product was a threat to Microsoft's Operating System as a platform. About how Microsoft used it's unbelievable wealth and power (it's monopoly) to kill Netscape, because it realized that a cross-platform development environment would weaken the strength of Windows as the only choice for the consumer.

Everyone talking loudly about the FOF and whether the government should have gotten involved seems to think that the monopoly case is about the Operating System Wars - Windows, Apple, BeOS, Linux, etc. The FOF, however, only refer to those other OSs to point out that Windows is the current clear winner. Given the OS strength that they have, they used their power to crush a competitor - Netscape.

Reading the portion of the FOF about how Microsoft screwed IBM makes me sad. I don't think IBM is the best company in the world, but if anyone could have defended themself, it would have been IBM. The FOF details how IBM lost hundreds of millions of dollars because Microsoft jerked them around.

Anyway, the Findings of Fact are easy to read, very interesting, very well written, very consice, and very damning for Microsoft.

I believe that this is the Internet's "Declaration of Independance." We will not allow Microsoft to exist as a monopoly, while abusing its power to kill competition.

Open Source aside, there are a few other free Desktops on the web, with varying degrees of functionality.

There was an article in Computer World about them.

I used two of them, Netscape Netcenter, and Visto's Briefcase. Each has its strong points, but neither is perfect (Visto fails to sync the Pilot flawlessly, and NetCenter doesn't upload all bookmarks and Address books).

The idea of syncing my Pilot to the web, having all the web bookmarks, E-Mail anywhere in the world when I travel, at home, at client sites, or at the office is very appealing.

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Well...

In my observations Netscape's development went severely downhill after release 4.05.

Don't get me wrong, I used to be a member of DevEdge and loved Netscape. :)

I think as soon as they started integrating Netcenter, what's related, and other nonsense the number of problems increased.

What really pissed me off is that I had to edit prefs.js to turn off the Netcenter crap. Then again, AOL purchased them, what could you expect? User-friendly way to turn off annoyances? ;-)

I would advise using Netscape's FTP archive for previously released versions and download release 3.04gold. That's probably the most stable release they ever had with no Netcenter nonsense and quality engineering.

I have a DevEdge CD with all releases of Netscape up to 4.5 for all platforms, and this is the most stable version.
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Leonid S. Knyshov
Network Administrator

THE GOOD

• LinuxCare's little bootable Linux recovery CD kicks ass. No bigger than a business card, it fits in the 3" diameter groove in CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive trays and has the potential to save your butt when lilo eats itself. They also had some Linux stickers that now adorn the case of my 386... (Yes, it runs Linux.)
• IBM had a presence. Although certainly not the largest or flashiest booth in the show, Quake 3 on a rather large plasma display attracted lots of attention. Dual PII-400 Intellistation + Voodoo 3 3000 + large plasma display. Mmmmmm. Thanks to the guys there for letting me get some game time on that mammoth thang...
• O'Reilly also had a presence, and their trade show pricing kicks much booty. Picked up a few books for 20% off list and got a shirt to boot...
• Mad props to VA Linux Systems for not only having a cool booth and giving away lots of stuff but for supplying the machines used for public Internet access. Their Debian boxed set is pretty cool and sports Learning Debian GNU/Linux from O'Reilly. (Yes, I was one of the people who stood around in line for ten or fifteen minutes to win this...)
• Thanks to the Sun and Rave Systems folks for all the free stuff. Learn to play Quake 2 without cheating before next year's show... :-) (Now where's my complimentary Sparc 5?)

THE BAD

• None of the shirts I got fit. None. Zero. Zip. Zilch. I'm 6-foot-3-inches tall and weigh 295 pounds. Show me the big-assed shirts!
• The IBM guys told me that the Showcase had a T-1 connection to the 'Net. I couldn't verify -- the packet loss and latency was horrible on the connection. I'm hoping this is only because lots of geeks were pounding on the connection like a pack of wild monkeys...
• Food choices were few, and lines were long. Within the Galleria, your choices were Subway, some cafe whose name I don't remember, Ruby Tuesday's, and Chick-Fil-A. If you were bold, you could go to the movie theater downstairs and buy a big tub of popcorn. The group I was with walked across the street to another mall and ate at Arby's. Yum... I think.

THE UGLY

• Where the hell were the Slackware people? I wanted Slackware apparel... Hmmph.
• Linux merchandise places came out of the woodworks to hock their goods. Yay capitalism...
• Don't eat at Shoney's. Our group waited over an hour for food before giving up and leaving.

THE REST

• The andover.net/freshmeat.net/slashdot.org booth was smack dab next to the linux.com booth. Taken together, it looked like one big congregation of slackers with laptops. All things considered, however, I wouldn't have minded flopping down on the couch for a rest after walking around for a few hours...
• I will seek revenge against the guy in the Debian shirt who shot me in the arm with a Nerf dart... muahahahaha
• The Debian folks had a Sun Ultra 5 running XaoS, Netscape, and some Tetris clone in separate windows. Just for kicks, I maximized the XaoS window. Can we say slideshow?
• I had nothing interesting enough to trade with the lady at the VA Linux booth, so I didn't get one of those nifty enlightenment shirts. Dammit.
• NetBSD was there. Go figure.

Overall, it was a pretty cool show, but I wish I didn't have the 2-1/2 hour drive. It was put on very professionally and appeared to be very well organized. I was only slightly disappointed that the show wasn't any bigger... The nifty canvas bag attendees got and the included CD made up for that, though.

once you have that, all you have to do is mouse-select a URL anywhere and press F6.

Anyway, you're wondering why I'm posting this under here, it's because all you have to do is to type 'more evil than satan himself' in a Netscape URL bar (if you're running a recent version) and you get the same search results, so I guess that's what Netscape mean by 'Smart Browsing'! What's funnier is that if you download the Netscape Tuneup for IE (available from http://home.netscape.com/smartupdate/ if you're running IE). This'll make the same search result appear by typing in the search query in an IE browser! I haven't tried the IE one however as I'm running Linux.
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Anyway, you're wondering why I'm posting this under here, it's because all you have to do is to type 'more evil than satan himself' in a Netscape URL bar (if you're running a recent version) and you get the same search results, so I guess that's what Netscape mean by 'Smart Browsing'! What's funnier is that if you download the Netscape Tuneup for IE (available from http://home.netscape.com/smartupdate/ if you're running IE). This'll make the same search result appear by typing in the search query in an IE browser! I haven't tried the IE one however as I'm running Linux.
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The CCK is written in Java/JavaScript and probably runs on Unix too. One can also create a netscape.jsc manually and turn it into a netscape.cfg using something like this:

#!/usr/local/bin/perl -wp0777
use MD5;
$cookie = "VonGloda5652TX75235ISBN\0";
if (/^66/) {
s/(.)/chr(ord($1) - 7)/egs;
($hash, $_) = /(.+?)\n(.+)/s;
$hash =~ s/[^\da-f]//g;
warn "Incorrect Hash.\n" if $hash ne MD5->hexhash($cookie.$_);
} else {
$hash = MD5->hexhash($cookie.$_);
$hash =~ s/(..)/ $1/g;
$_ = "//$hash\n$_";
s/(.)/chr(ord($1) + 7)/egs;
}

Use ResEdit. I've thoroughly customized my copy of Navigator on my Mac at home. I've removed and changed buttons, pasted in my own graphics for the splash screen, changed the mouse pointers, added my name to the credits found in about:netscape, and so on. :) People usually do a double take when they see it running since it looks so different. Good stuff.

As for stability, I have stand alone navigator 4.6? installed. I have infrequent problems with it. In linux, I've gotten to the point where I've written a shell script aimed at cleaning up after Netscape when it craps out. (includes a kill -9 and an rm -f ~/.netscape/lock to remove that goddamn "lock" file....)
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You can write filter scripts! See the documentation for javascript mail filters and the filters of the guy who implemented them.

It lets you change buttons, menus, default options, throbber and lots of other neat stuff. It's primarily designed for ISP who would like to package their own Navigator versions.

I also believe they have a different CCK package for every Communicator version, so you'll probably need to wait for 4.7 CCK to come out.

Alternatively, some hackery can be done using Windows resource editor that ships with most Windows IDEs.

The Netscape Linux developers were on Slashdot many months ago urging Linux users to send bug reports. They really do want the product to be stable.

-jwb

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Bravery, Kindness, Clarity, Honesty, Compassion, Generosity

This is not a particularly surprising inclusion. Media companies put all kinds of language in their standard contracts assigning ownership to The Company.

For example, cartoon companies routinely have the creator sign away rights to the characters and style, allowing The Company to continue to publish the strip even if the creator quits. I'm sure some of us remember how bitter Bill Watterson, creator of Calvin and Hobbes was...

Unfortunately, people go ahead and sign these contracts since their only other alternative is to be forever consigned to oblivion. Without a publisher, these artists would never have been noticed.

With the advent of cheap (or even free) web publishing, this is all changing. Anyone can make their art readily available-- witness the popularity (for both consumer and supplier) of mp3.com, User Friendly, and others.

The Internet is starting to force media publishers back into the role of promoters rather than controllers, and they are understandably upset and/or scared. Consumers will still need publishers to help pick out what is good, but they no longer need be restricted to only what the publishers wish to promote, so the publisher will no longer have the same power over the artists they once had.

OK....

1. Jane's Defence Community
2. Jan e's Defence Community
3. Air&Space Smithsonian Magazine
4. Website Central
5. Netsc ape Products: How to Make Communicator Your Default Browser
6. Member Directory
7. Netcenter Enterta inment Channel
8. Search - Photogra phy
9. Search - Arts > Photography > Galleries
10. S earch - Arts > Photography > Galleries > People
11. EROS // Male Nude Photo Gallery - Gale ria de Nu Masculino.
12. EROS // Fine Art Male Nude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Home
13. EROS // Fine Art Male Nude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Index
14. EROS // Fine Art Male N ude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Links
15. Lady Lynx - erotica for women, links to g alleries of naked men
16. Lady Lynx - Erotica for Women
17. Free Sites with Galleries o f Pics

Although soem of the URLs say "search", I didn't do any searching, just clicked on links.

And I have now just proved how easy I can get to male pr0n on-line -- oh, no, what have I done?!

OK....

1. Jane's Defence Community
2. Jan e's Defence Community
3. Air&Space Smithsonian Magazine
4. Website Central
5. Netsc ape Products: How to Make Communicator Your Default Browser
6. Member Directory
7. Netcenter Enterta inment Channel
8. Search - Photogra phy
9. Search - Arts > Photography > Galleries
10. S earch - Arts > Photography > Galleries > People
11. EROS // Male Nude Photo Gallery - Gale ria de Nu Masculino.
12. EROS // Fine Art Male Nude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Home
13. EROS // Fine Art Male Nude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Index
14. EROS // Fine Art Male N ude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Links
15. Lady Lynx - erotica for women, links to g alleries of naked men
16. Lady Lynx - Erotica for Women
17. Free Sites with Galleries o f Pics

Although soem of the URLs say "search", I didn't do any searching, just clicked on links.

And I have now just proved how easy I can get to male pr0n on-line -- oh, no, what have I done?!

OK....

1. Jane's Defence Community
2. Jan e's Defence Community
3. Air&Space Smithsonian Magazine
4. Website Central
5. Netsc ape Products: How to Make Communicator Your Default Browser
6. Member Directory
7. Netcenter Enterta inment Channel
8. Search - Photogra phy
9. Search - Arts > Photography > Galleries
10. S earch - Arts > Photography > Galleries > People
11. EROS // Male Nude Photo Gallery - Gale ria de Nu Masculino.
12. EROS // Fine Art Male Nude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Home
13. EROS // Fine Art Male Nude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Index
14. EROS // Fine Art Male N ude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Links
15. Lady Lynx - erotica for women, links to g alleries of naked men
16. Lady Lynx - Erotica for Women
17. Free Sites with Galleries o f Pics

Although soem of the URLs say "search", I didn't do any searching, just clicked on links.

And I have now just proved how easy I can get to male pr0n on-line -- oh, no, what have I done?!

OK....

1. Jane's Defence Community
2. Jan e's Defence Community
3. Air&Space Smithsonian Magazine
4. Website Central
5. Netsc ape Products: How to Make Communicator Your Default Browser
6. Member Directory
7. Netcenter Enterta inment Channel
8. Search - Photogra phy
9. Search - Arts > Photography > Galleries
10. S earch - Arts > Photography > Galleries > People
11. EROS // Male Nude Photo Gallery - Gale ria de Nu Masculino.
12. EROS // Fine Art Male Nude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Home
13. EROS // Fine Art Male Nude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Index
14. EROS // Fine Art Male N ude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Links
15. Lady Lynx - erotica for women, links to g alleries of naked men
16. Lady Lynx - Erotica for Women
17. Free Sites with Galleries o f Pics

Although soem of the URLs say "search", I didn't do any searching, just clicked on links.

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2. Jan e's Defence Community
3. Air&Space Smithsonian Magazine
4. Website Central
5. Netsc ape Products: How to Make Communicator Your Default Browser
6. Member Directory
7. Netcenter Enterta inment Channel
8. Search - Photogra phy
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10. S earch - Arts > Photography > Galleries > People
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17. Free Sites with Galleries o f Pics

Although soem of the URLs say "search", I didn't do any searching, just clicked on links.

And I have now just proved how easy I can get to male pr0n on-line -- oh, no, what have I done?!

OK....

1. Jane's Defence Community
2. Jan e's Defence Community
3. Air&Space Smithsonian Magazine
4. Website Central
5. Netsc ape Products: How to Make Communicator Your Default Browser
6. Member Directory
7. Netcenter Enterta inment Channel
8. Search - Photogra phy
9. Search - Arts > Photography > Galleries
10. S earch - Arts > Photography > Galleries > People
11. EROS // Male Nude Photo Gallery - Gale ria de Nu Masculino.
12. EROS // Fine Art Male Nude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Home
13. EROS // Fine Art Male Nude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Index
14. EROS // Fine Art Male N ude Photo Gallery - Galeria de fotos de nu masculino - Links
15. Lady Lynx - erotica for women, links to g alleries of naked men
16. Lady Lynx - Erotica for Women
17. Free Sites with Galleries o f Pics

Although soem of the URLs say "search", I didn't do any searching, just clicked on links.

And I have now just proved how easy I can get to male pr0n on-line -- oh, no, what have I done?!

This is actually a comment in Netscape's server-push animation sample code. You can view it here. For the impatient, here is the relevant section:


if(x == LASTCHAR) goto thats_it;
else ++x;
}

/* This goto is Marc's fault. Marc digs goto. */

thats_it:
exit (0);

So, what they did was negotiated a deal where Barksdale would go almost immediately but stay on the Board of Directors, and Andreesen would stay for indefinitely in a fairly nebulous but senior role.

Now, sufficient time has passed where this is no longer on the public's RADAR screen. Sure, some will be interested, but most people won't see this as a big deal. After all, to the typical consumer, not much has changed. http://home.netscape.com/ is still there.

With respect to us (slashdot fans), many of us hadn't liked Netscape for a while anyway. We always suspected that Mozilla didn't have as much support as we would have liked. But, AOL hasn't actually killed it either.

I hope it doesn't make people mad to hear this (or to hear it again), but the AOL-Sun-Netscape deal wasn't about the browser anyway. Everyone knows that Micros~1 killed that market a while ago.

This was always about the servers -- not the SuiteSpot which are Netscape's basic server products. This is about the Xpert server series: PublishingXpert, CommerceXpert, etc. These are the Web-based workflow automation products that Netscape developed in a joint-venture with General Electric's EDI business. These are pound-for-pound the most valuable things that Netscape ever developed, from a commercial perspective.

So, if I am right in this analysis, I think that AOL, Sun, and the Netscape shareholders are getting what they wanted out of this deal. We shall see if it truly works to the competitive advantage of them all.

"So, by your logic, we should ignore anything that needs improvement, simply because it is not "fully implemented" or "fully supported?" It doesn't matter whether or not there are games at launch that fully support the connectivity features. The design of the console is poorly concieved for that purpose."

Now, which purpose do you speak? The online play or the online browsing? As far as the online play, IT ISN'T OUT YET! There is nothing to compare it to! When the games are out, get back to me... As far as the browser, to be quite honest, no sarcasm this time, I would imagine that the browser is targeted for a way to connect to multiplayer games with browsing the web an after thought. Sure, it is being marketed as a full browser, but it is because it has that ability. Do you think the people who came up with passive displays on laptops ever thought that it might be a security feature not to be able to see from the left or right, but straight on? No, but it has been marketed that way! I fully agree that feedback would be warranted on the product, but until the online play is available and the browser is more stable, I will hold off on my review. Think Microsoft wants people to review the commercial version of W2k yet? You can say that it is beta but why are they charging people for it and putting it on some Compaqs that are sold?

"How many people do you think are going to go out and purchase the upgraded modem in the future? Only those that think like us. The vast majority of users, like my brother, are going to assume that they bought a fully functional and implemented design, and won't need to upgrade. What systems prior to this had the major upgrades planned that Sega does?"

By that logic, most people should still be running the original version of Quake2 and have not upgraded to the latest 3.20 or whatever it is right now. I would have to disagree with you there! Plus, the first thing a Dreamcast web browser user should see will probably be some form of Dreamcast website. You will honestly say that they will not paste the upgrade info all over that site? That is like saying a person who goes to the Netscape Homepage would not find any links to upgrade to 4.61!

It's also important to note that these are one directional links. The 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon are all bi-directional links, where A working with B is the same as B working with A.

Yahoo does a good job of sending feelers out to other pages, but does a shitty job of getting linked to. A page like Netscape.com probably gets a lot of references (This page brought to you by blah blah.) if not as many connections out.

We just need more pages that say This page brought to you by /. to really change the world.

yes and no.

Netscape are kind enough to release quite good JavaScript documentation. version 1.3 is out with docs downloadable from http://developer.netscape.com

the problem is that Microsoft's implementation of the "standards" doesn't follow Netscape's version. an example is the use of "JavaScript1.2" in the language attribute to the script element. IE 4 & 5 run scripts using 1.2, but it doesn't support all of 1.2 found in the Netscape docs. result is that you'll get broken scripts if you use it.

but, in the future there should be a standard for scripting too. it's called ECMAScript. combine it with W3C's Document Object Model and you have something better than JavaScript as of today.

Yeah it does. Go to developer.netscape.com The current standard is v 1.2 I think (though maybe it's up to 1.3 now).
-Mike

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[Referring to Intel's counter to the Athalon]
"A 700-MHz version is due in the fourth quarter, while Intel is planning 667-MHz and faster versions of the Pentium III."

I find it particularly interesting how Intel convieniently now rounds UP the .666_ instead of the canoical rounding down. Fear the marketing of a 666Mhz chip!

To force reload even of cached pages and cached inline images in Netscape Navigator/Communicator, use Shift-Reload, or View|Reload.

Netscape's Reload button is crippled by design. Also see this page for more details.

To force reload even of cached pages and cached inline images in Netscape Navigator/Communicator, use Shift-Reload, or View|Reload.

Netscape's Reload button is crippled by design. Also see this page for more details.

I think it's better than their last attempt. They were in danger of becoming another useless site like http://www.netscape.com. At least with Red Hat they've now put the important things back on the front page (like Products, Updates and Errata, for instance).

Try a step into 1999.

Posted by !ErrorBookmarkNotDefined:

OK, so extrasolar didn't hold his punches, but he makes a good point.

Perhaps I should follow up with something like:

We need a Beowulf cluster of the developer.gnome sites.

...just make sure we cover all the cliches.

But here's a better question:
Look at the site. Ask yourself: what isn't here that I need.
Compare it to some other developer connections, like Sun's Java site and Netscape's rat-nest of a developer page.
Now ask of yourself how can I get involved to provide what I think is missing.
Documentation will really help with the acceptance of Linux, I think.


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Computers are useless. They can only give answers.

Well, they used to be at archive.netscape.com (username archive, password oldies) last time I looked, about a month ago when I was digging for a 3.0 version for Solaris. But now there appears to be nothing there either. Anybody know what happened to them?
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