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Based on Opera 12 "Wahoo": I've been using it for around 3 hrs. now, & it rocks!

You can download & read about 64-bit Opera for Windows & MacOS X, in these 2 links @ Opera:

http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/64-bit-opera-and-out-of-process-plug-ins/

or

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/12/15/64-bit-and-out-of-process-plugins-builds-now-available-on-labs

* COLOR ME "IMPRESSED" - Especially since works GREAT so far, especially for a "round #1 64-bit release port"...

(Per your post sneakyimp? Well - About "taking a long time" for things to happen? This took a LONG time to "go down" but it finally has!)

APK

P.S.=> What I truly DON'T understand though, is that I submitted this 2x to the "recent" section today & it disappeared BOTH times, here & here:

http://slashdot.org/submission/1881720/opera-goes-64-bit-for-windows-finally

&

http://slashdot.org/submission/1881604/opera-goes-64-bit-for-windows-finally

(Yet /.'s own SUBMISSION page states "we're powered by YOUR submissions", well... Seems to be untruthful "advertising" then on that account!)...

... apk

Based on Opera 12 "Wahoo": I've been using it for around 3 hrs. now, & it rocks!

You can download & read about 64-bit Opera for Windows & MacOS X, in these 2 links @ Opera:

http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/64-bit-opera-and-out-of-process-plug-ins/

or

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/12/15/64-bit-and-out-of-process-plugins-builds-now-available-on-labs

* COLOR ME "IMPRESSED" - Especially since works GREAT so far, especially for a "round #1 64-bit release port"...

APK

P.S.=> What I truly DON'T understand though, is that I submitted this 2x to the "recent" section today & it disappeared BOTH times, here & here:

http://slashdot.org/submission/1881720/opera-goes-64-bit-for-windows-finally

&

http://slashdot.org/submission/1881604/opera-goes-64-bit-for-windows-finally

(Yet /.'s own SUBMISSION page states "we're powered by YOUR submissions", well... seems to be untruthful "advertising" then on that account!)...

... apk

Based on Opera 12 "Wahoo": I've been using it for around 3 hrs. now, & it rocks!

You can download & read about 64-bit Opera for Windows & MacOS X, in these 2 links @ Opera:

http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/64-bit-opera-and-out-of-process-plug-ins/

or

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/12/15/64-bit-and-out-of-process-plugins-builds-now-available-on-labs

* COLOR ME "IMPRESSED" - Especially since works GREAT so far, especially for a "round #1 64-bit release port"...

APK

P.S.=> What I truly DON'T understand though, is that I submitted this 2x to the "recent" section today & it disappeared BOTH times, here & here:

http://slashdot.org/submission/1881720/opera-goes-64-bit-for-windows-finally

&

http://slashdot.org/submission/1881604/opera-goes-64-bit-for-windows-finally

(Yet /.'s own SUBMISSION page states "we're powered by YOUR submissions", well... seems to be untruthful "advertising" then on that account!)...

... apk

As others have said, ad blocking in Opera doesn't download anything from blocked addresses.

Personally I use Opera AdBlock, NotScripts and Password Hasher extensions. Not sure about a replacement for DownThemAll, since I've never seen a need for something like that.

As others have said, ad blocking in Opera doesn't download anything from blocked addresses.

Personally I use Opera AdBlock, NotScripts and Password Hasher extensions. Not sure about a replacement for DownThemAll, since I've never seen a need for something like that.

As others have said, ad blocking in Opera doesn't download anything from blocked addresses.

Personally I use Opera AdBlock, NotScripts and Password Hasher extensions. Not sure about a replacement for DownThemAll, since I've never seen a need for something like that.

Bullshit.
Straight from the horse's mouth.
If you weren't there from the beginning, don't try to look smart by making absolute statements which implies you were.

What's keeping Opera afloat?

Look for yourself

On javascript (as far as I am PERSONALLY concerned? I said this earlier to others here & why) -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2559120&cid=38269726

As far as HTML 5 standards adherence in Opera??

You MAY wish to read this:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

* I.E.-> Opera's undergoing MASSIVE changes to be ready for HTML 5 (better than what you're describing odds are)...

(That's where the "latest/greatest" builds of Opera, as well as their changelogs, are downloaded from & written about!)

APK

P.S.=> I've seen hassles in javascript using it in Opera, but that generally doesn't concern me (per my 1st link above & mainly for security purposes, but also for speed to a degree as well)...

... apk

I do things like that via HOSTS files (they operate beneath usermode, & via filtering @ the TCP/IP stack level).

Also, You can deny out various hosts/domains via Firewall rules tables as well (and use IP addresses as well there in the latter) - I do both (mainly vs. adbanners &/or known malicious sites).

I do so, for "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" online, & via methods that extend to ANY/ALL webbound programs I use is all.

APK

P.S.=> Lastly/per my subject-line above: Opera has "Addons" as well, & probably along the same types/functionality that FireFox variants as well as Chrome/Chromium variants use.

In fact, look here -> http://www.opera.com/addons/

(There, I've seen an AdBlock for Opera, perhaps there's tools like what you ask for there! I just do it in a different way (that extends to ALL of my webbound programs, not just a specific browser, though I do use Adblock & NoScript with WaterFox))... apk

Filters and scripts can scrub <video> and <canvas> tags. Filtering proxies installed in schools can do this. Security packages used in schools can do this. Browser extensions can do this.

Filters and scripts can also inject a preload="none" attribute into <video> tags to prevent your 100 MB movie from preloading, although this is really the duty of the browser. Some browsers are getting close. Opera can do this with plugins, including Flash. Adding support for HTML5 media should be trivial.

Flash is not just video. Keep your Flash blocker for every other Flash-based evil out there, like games, soundboards, Newgrounds-era cartoons, nuisance ads, sites that will never adopt HTML5, etc...

But let's not pay attention to the Wikipedia, let's check Opera's own browser history page, which appeared on April 1995. I find it hard to reconcile this with Wikipedia's assertion that the company was founded on August 1995, so I will just accept that Opera already existed by April 1995. It still seems to be later than Netscape, and even more than its predecessor Mosaic Communications Corporation whose webpage seems to have been last updated in October 1994.

But let's not pay attention to the Wikipedia, let's check Opera's own browser history page, which appeared on April 1995. I find it hard to reconcile this with Wikipedia's assertion that the company was founded on August 1995, so I will just accept that Opera already existed by April 1995. It still seems to be later than Netscape, and even more than its predecessor Mosaic Communications Corporation whose webpage seems to have been last updated in October 1994.

no more problem like these anymore:
http://www.opera.com/

True, is possible to split content into pages by way of JS. And JS libraries mean that not everyone have to write that code. But I challenge you to write a script that emulates the kind of layouts we are seeing here: http://people.opera.com/howcome/2011/gcpm/ss Each row is a series of pages from the same article.

The problem of staying relevant in an increasingly "Mobile App"-driven world.

Keep in mind that Opera makes its money as a broker for advertising networks. Reading the examples provided by the CTO within that context, it's clear that they are intended to increase the efficacy of web adverts: it not only breaks the content into pages, which forces multiple page views, but allows for the automatic inclusion of floating images on the content boundaries--perfect for guaranteeing that banner ads are always within the view-port.

            -dZ.

Opera already supports a full-screen presentation/projection mode, as defined by CSS (2?). See this example, then press F11 to go full-screen. The content is split into screens/pages, use Page Down to go to the next one.

Except in demonstrations of CSS, I've only once seen this used.

(more details)

I think the management sciences must be the part of politics specially for the less developed countries.
Sale of Franchises

To the best of my knowledge, Opera Turbo doesn't do rendering and layout on the server. It does image compression and caching on the server only, and uses a more efficient binary protocol - and that's that.

For example, if you go to their official page, the only explanation they give is:

How we squeeze out all that speed?

When Opera Turbo is enabled, webpages are compressed via Opera's servers so that they use much less data than the originals. This means that there is less to download, so you can see your webpages more quickly.

and here is the comparison page for Mini vs Mobile (note that the latter has Turbo):

What is the difference between Opera Mobile and Opera Mini?
The main difference is what goes on behind the user interface.
Opera Mini always uses Opera’s advanced server compression technology to compress web content before it gets to a device. The rendering engine is on Opera’s server.
Opera Mobile is a full Internet browser for mobile devices. The full web-rendering engine – Opera Presto – is run on the phone using the phones’ hardware to download and display webpages.

Seems pretty clear-cut to me that only Mini does any server-side processing other than compression and protocol optimization.

If you have any references to prove otherwise, please give them.

To the best of my knowledge, Opera Turbo doesn't do rendering and layout on the server. It does image compression and caching on the server only, and uses a more efficient binary protocol - and that's that.

For example, if you go to their official page, the only explanation they give is:

How we squeeze out all that speed?

When Opera Turbo is enabled, webpages are compressed via Opera's servers so that they use much less data than the originals. This means that there is less to download, so you can see your webpages more quickly.

and here is the comparison page for Mini vs Mobile (note that the latter has Turbo):

What is the difference between Opera Mobile and Opera Mini?
The main difference is what goes on behind the user interface.
Opera Mini always uses Opera’s advanced server compression technology to compress web content before it gets to a device. The rendering engine is on Opera’s server.
Opera Mobile is a full Internet browser for mobile devices. The full web-rendering engine – Opera Presto – is run on the phone using the phones’ hardware to download and display webpages.

Seems pretty clear-cut to me that only Mini does any server-side processing other than compression and protocol optimization.

If you have any references to prove otherwise, please give them.

So, will Amazon follow Opera Mini's lead (see http://www.opera.com/mobile/help/faq/#security) and rewrite WebKit's security stack so that it doesn't check SSL certificates?

That's the million dollar question, here.

I don't care if Amazon sees what my family does on the public internet. But if they're going to proxy my GMail, bank account, and other HTTPS sites, then we have a problem. And, most likely, a Congressional investigation. Because unlike Opera Mini, Silk isn't being billed as a stripped down mobile browser. There really isn't any need for them to expose themselves to our private data, if all they are trying to do is optimize the public web for their CPU.

I wonder how we'll be able to tell if they do this, anyway? Will they release the source code? Will they admit to it, if no one important enough asks?

Opera Mini has the same problem.
Instead of avoiding the issue like Amazon though, they admit it openly: http://www.opera.com/mobile/help/faq/#security

I remember reading that FAQ few years ago, and they were even more candid about it. It used to say something along the lines of:
"Yes, technically we have access to every website you visit, even if it's encrypted. We promise, however to respect our user's privacy and never look, but ultimately it's up to you if you trust us. If you don't, please do not use Opera Mini to access sensitive websites".

Unfortunately I can't find that quote anymore. I guess some MBA must've found it "unprofessional" or something.

No, it's more like Opera Turbo. There's a server which preprocesses a web page for you, making it easier for the device to process and present. So yes, if Silk were ever down you'd be basically unable to surf the web.

Then again, every single online service i use daily has the same issue.

Which arm platform?

My N900 runs Opera Mobile 11 just fine. You can pick that build up from http://labs.opera.com/downloads/

They have just dropped support for Windows Mobile 6.5 though.

It's in the desktop version of Opera for some time now, Opera Turbo : http://www.opera.com/browser/turbo/

Or like, you could check out Opera instead if you're so impressed with Firefox 6. Sure it's better than Firefox 3 but it still suck imho.

(You can disable plugins and java-scripts and have them launch when you want to run them / add that specific site and there's a built in adblocker. That's totally sufficient to me since the only Firefox plugins I use and install in every single profile for all the times Firefox fuck up and I want to start new is Flashblock, adblock plus and no-script in that order.)

http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/personalize/content/#plugins

Or like, you could check out Opera instead if you're so impressed with Firefox 6. Sure it's better than Firefox 3 but it still suck imho.

(You can disable plugins and java-scripts and have them launch when you want to run them / add that specific site and there's a built in adblocker. That's totally sufficient to me since the only Firefox plugins I use and install in every single profile for all the times Firefox fuck up and I want to start new is Flashblock, adblock plus and no-script in that order.)

http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/personalize/content/#plugins

Or like, you could check out Opera instead if you're so impressed with Firefox 6. Sure it's better than Firefox 3 but it still suck imho.

(You can disable plugins and java-scripts and have them launch when you want to run them / add that specific site and there's a built in adblocker. That's totally sufficient to me since the only Firefox plugins I use and install in every single profile for all the times Firefox fuck up and I want to start new is Flashblock, adblock plus and no-script in that order.)

http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/personalize/content/#plugins

See subject-line above... & THIS is WHY UPDATING YOUR SOFTWARE TO "LATEST/GREATEST EDITIONS" is important - to keep up not only with featureset enhancements, but also security features (like TLS 1.2 in Opera).

* Now, it MAY be in earlier models, but that's the latest "full/stable" edition & I'd suggest updating/upgrading to it on YOUR end... for the purposes of protecting yourself vs. this "BEAST" scripted attack.

APK

P.S.=> Here, THIS link should help on that account so you can get ahold of it (or even the "12" models in 'beta' etc./et al):

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

... apk

Opera does not need to be updated. They have always warned you if a certificate is revoked, and if they can't verify that it is not revoked they regard it as unsecured. See http://my.opera.com/securitygroup/blog/2011/08/30/when-certificate-authorities-are-hacked-2

Try Opera. I use Opera Mobile on my Android phone and it renders pages a lot better than the standard browser.

with the Opera gestures.

Hold your arm and move to the right for the next high.

Boss coming? Minimize: down and then left.

Those days are long gone. http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2009/02/05/meet-carakan-and-vega

We're owned by Opera Software, see http://www.opera.com/press/releases/2010/04/30/ and http://blog.fastmail.fm/2010/04/30/fastmail-fm-has-been-acquired-by-opera-software/

We have always disabled free accounts after 120 days of inactivity, it's right there in the information available you sign up:

https://www.fastmail.fm/pages/fastmail/docs/pricingtbl.html

When the account gets closed, the emails get discarded - we don't hold your data forever.

Yahoo! (oops, I think I infringed somebody)

And I don't really trust an organization like Mozilla to be able to create something that meets the needs of most people. Their staunch opposition to H.264 is a prime example of this. H.264 is an non-negotiable requirement for me. If you won't support it, I can't use your product. Period.

Then the Web is not for you. It isn't some kind of Mozilla standard that Mozilla is worried about, it's Web standards. Most Web software developers disagree with the idea that closed, royalty bearing formats are an acceptable choice for the Web. Mozilla, as we know, disagrees with you. The W3C disagrees with you. Opera disagrees with you. Google disagrees with you. And Tim Berners-Lee, of course, disagrees with you.

As another poster mentioned, you can change it to use the system theme. There are also lots of skins you can download, some of them very nice. I like the glassy ones that utilize Aero like Z1 the most, but there are many other less "flashy" skins available too.

Seems like the most important part was excluded - the download counter! http://www.opera.com/

Currently, more people have downloaded Opera 11.50 than have disliked Rebecca Black!

I'm surprised nothing was said about spatial navigation (particularly because Opera touts this as a big feature). It looks like Chrome is getting this too, though.

"I'm going to make a baseless claim, and I'm sure as hell not going to waste my time proving it!"

If Opera had 200 million users, it would have a higher market share number.

Since you're too lazy to Just Fucking Google It, take a look at Opera's financial reports (see p.3 of the 2011Q1 presentation). You can argue with them about their user count.

For the most part, if not entirely, the only thing that is incorporated are codes/methods/etc that can crash/freeze the browser, which is entirely expected.

The website fixing parts are done by BrowserJS (currently a 106KB JS file) which can be disabled.

I met Jon years ago, and found him to be a great guy. The company at the time was focused on making a good browser for power users, and they did that really well. It also helped that back then they were focused on performance and working on older systems.

At some point I noticed things changing years later. Opera got bigger, and slower. UI stuff that worked forever was broken in favor of a less flexible Firefox clone model. Attention was diverted to writing an email client. Then a BitTorrent client. Then a web server built into the browser. I only wish I was making that last one up.

The company lost focus on what made Opera good in the first place as they went from trying to be a good, fast browser to trying to do everything for everybody. Finally I stopped using it when the drift got so bad that it wasn't really better then Firefox at anything.

This drift coincided with the company growing in size and it being less about how it started: Jon and a few other guys trying to make a good browser.

Indeed. For my users, I'm tempted to say "Sorry, I can't support Firefox because Firefox doesn't support Firefox", and switch them all over to Opera.

How would that help? Opera doesn't provide security updates for old versions either.

Quoting myself:

This is why we must aim to get servers upgraded, so that browsers can start to warn about this risk when dealing with unpatched servers.

Clarification: The reason, why browsers don't warn yet, is that browsers would have to warn very often. Currently there are too few patched servers. According to numbers provided by Yngve Pettersen, in May 2001, about 45% of all servers in total were still unpatched. A frequent warning would likely have the undesired effect to educate users to ignore the warning.

There is a simple explanation why major sites are not supporting RFC 5746. A lot of these sites are probably sitting behind F5 hardware. The SSL is probably implemented just on the F5. F5 hasn't implemented the RFC in any version of their software yet.

http://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/solutions/public/10000/700/sol10737.html

Smaller sites of course are probably just a single http server running Apache. They or their hosting provide update their OpenSSL and Apache httpd versions. So the smaller sites get fixed. Major sites do not.

It'd be interesting to determine how many of these sites on his list are behind F5 hardware. I'm guessing that other load balancing vendors have similar problems, but F5 is the 800 lb gorilla.

The Opera article: http://my.opera.com/securitygroup/blog/2011/05/19/renego-popular-unpatched-and-vulnerable-sites seems to make a mention of this by saying that a major vendor will release an RFC implementation in June. But they don't say who this is and I'm not sure if they're talking about F5 or not.

This is what happens when you abandon the tried-and-true.

If Mozilla, had only stuck with the original Mozilla Labs they wouldn't come up with cockamamie crap like this.

Yes because you can always include something like

Dear valued customer, we regret that the browser you are using does not adhere to web standards and is not capable of handling all the great things this website has to offer, May we advise you to download a browser instead of an explorer. Any choice will do really as it seems that only Microsoft is incompetent enough to adhere to world wide web standards. we suggest a browser like Chrome, Firefox, Opera or Safari. This will not only greatly improve your internet experience but will also protect you against allot of Virus & Malware treats. We hope to see you again soon with a browser of your choice.
if you continue browsing on this page with your current browser you may experience incorrect page behaviour.


maybe leave some of the anti microsoft speak out of it but you get the pickture

Opera's actually removed its Qt dependency since 10.50:

Like Opera for Mac, the Unix version will have some big changes under the platform hood: it will no longer be necessary to have Qt installed.

It means [Qt] is totally removed and no longer required at all. Hence UNIX [Opera] required a bigger rewrite than the other platforms.

It's not like you can't find alternatives.

Opera has already added support for WebP. Not just support, they are using it in their Turbo feature to recompress JPEG images because it produces smaller files and they think it looks better. See for example this release from April: http://my.opera.com/portalnews/blog/2011/04/12/opera-11-10-barracuda-released-to-the-wild

(In another post they said they thought it made people look younger.)

You are the type of pedantic nerd that drives me crazy. The type who gets so wrapped up in an (utterly irrelevant, yet fervently followed) belief that you'll go on a rant about how Microsoft is jerks for being different. The sad thing is, you're being pedantic, nobody cares, AND YOU'RE WRONG.

I think you need to take a very close look at your life. Look at your reaction here and think how religious people respond to irrelevancies and differences of opinion. Congratulations, you're one of them.

1) Chrome -- http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=95440

"The address bar that sits at the top of the browser window (sometimes called the "omnibox") doubles as a search box"

2) Opera -- http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/intro/layout/#opera_layout

"1. Address field on the address bar"

3) Safari -- http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html

"Can’t remember the exact address for that website you visited the other day? Safari can. In the Smart Address Field," (ok, "Address Field" isn't exactly the same as "Address Bar" but it's closer than location bar)