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Re:Doesn't make sense
I am glad you get it. You burn tons of coal and then using sunlight get back a couple gallons of fuel. Using solar heat to simply replace burned coal makes a lot more sense to me. I do understand that a few solar panels is not going to cut the coal consumption by much. Many greenies simply believe that once the process is perfected a small amount of sunlight will replace the tons of energy released in burning coal and reclaim all the CO2. It can be done, we just need to improve efficiency.
Look up over unity. It's this group who have all the answers on how to do it.
http://oupower.com/
http://www.phact.org/e/z/freewire.htm
http://www.energyvortex.com/energydictionary/overunity_energy.html
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Contracts in Another Language
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Heliotis [mailto:jeh@...]
>
> I have a student who is interested in doing a project adding
> design-by-contract assertions to another language. To my memory,
> I have never seen anything about how assertions are implemented in
> EiffelStudio, and what the challenges and pitfalls were. Can anyone
> point me to any documentation?
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> Thanks a lot,
> James
Dear Jim:
Your student should find the following links useful:
http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CircleSquaring.html
http://chemistry.about.com/cs/generalchemistry/a/a a050601a.htm
Hope this helps,
-- Bertrand Meyer
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/eiffel_software /message/3558 -
More info...
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Re:Not So Fast
could you explain how the magnetic flux of a permanent magnet retains the same strength over time
The gravitational attraction of a given mass of matter also remains constant over time (proton decay notwithstanding), but I would also ridicule any PMM based on known gravitational forces.
Keeping an open mind does not preclude rejecting extraordinary claims (unless there is correspondingly extraordinary evidence, which is clearly lacking here).
Be careful what you dismiss as pseudoscience
Good advice indeed -- but given that the inventor claims something that has never been demonstrated in a reliable or repeatable way, and has huge reams of both experimental and theoretical evidence against it, and has furthermore been repeatedly used in hoaxes and frauds over the years...
May I suggest easily-google-able sites detailing the unworkability of PMM's in general, and electromagnetically-based ones in particular:
http://www.phact.org/e/z/freewire.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion_mach ine
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm
http://www.kilty.com/pmotion.htm
http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html
http://burtleburtle.net/bob/physics/whythere.html
http://commons.bcit.ca/physics/rjw/pmm/text/em_pmm s.htm -
Re:Not So Fast
could you explain how the magnetic flux of a permanent magnet retains the same strength over time
The gravitational attraction of a given mass of matter also remains constant over time (proton decay notwithstanding), but I would also ridicule any PMM based on known gravitational forces.
Keeping an open mind does not preclude rejecting extraordinary claims (unless there is correspondingly extraordinary evidence, which is clearly lacking here).
Be careful what you dismiss as pseudoscience
Good advice indeed -- but given that the inventor claims something that has never been demonstrated in a reliable or repeatable way, and has huge reams of both experimental and theoretical evidence against it, and has furthermore been repeatedly used in hoaxes and frauds over the years...
May I suggest easily-google-able sites detailing the unworkability of PMM's in general, and electromagnetically-based ones in particular:
http://www.phact.org/e/z/freewire.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion_mach ine
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm
http://www.kilty.com/pmotion.htm
http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html
http://burtleburtle.net/bob/physics/whythere.html
http://commons.bcit.ca/physics/rjw/pmm/text/em_pmm s.htm -
Some info for the perplexed
About Brown's Gas:
Brown's Gas Information and Eagle Research
As for "When the electricity (in the Brown's Gas) is released by the 'flame,' it comes out as electricity and the water 'implodes' to it's original liquid form, with no heat and no expansion first."
As you said, pure rubbish. It does explode first to produce water vapor, and the condensation of water vapor to liquid water does liberate large quantity of heat. -
Re:Overly optimistic
Yes, he mixes some reasonably realistic schemes with stuff that's a pure crock. He seems to have no skepticism whatsoever. Good article on the "hydrino" nonsense here: http://www.phact.org/e/z/hydrino.htm
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Perpetual motion machine?
Has anyone noticed that this smells a lot like the perpetual motion machines widely purported (but never actually seen working) from the late 19th century? There's been plenty of coverage of the subject, and this just sounds like yet another variation on "harnessing gravity's power" and getting "free energy".
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Re:How!
I disagree. Roswell and other flying things are false in the way some represent them. Because people didn't understand some of the advanced reasoning and materials used it has blossomed into a UFO-alien crazy fad.
If they catagoricaly denied it, Someone would have come up with another memo proving a coverup, a conspiracy would ensue and it wouldn't have droped below the radar as it is now. Who would benifit form this? Al Jazeera could have benifited but more likley the "enemies" could have used it as proof they are right in thier cause. The most controversal items in politics are really the items that could be true but denied and were people are trying to prove some government lied to cover it up. This isn't like your friend syaing he wasn't at your house when you were away, there are groups of people whos sole intention is to create doubt or find governemtns in a lie. I think these groups are sometimes neccesary but thier existance would complicate a manor like this. Partial truths can make some outlandish scenario seem completly plausable. there are all kinds of sites on the internet dedicated to just this. Urban legends seem to hold just enough fact and truth to make somethign seem possible. Things like controling the weather and perpetual motion are some examples. It really comes together when someoen or somethign has somethign to gain. -
Browns Gas??? Re:Where does the energy come from?
I wondered how long it would take for the Brown's gas cronic scam folk to surface.
http://www.phact.org/e/bgas.htm for one debunk with links (Top item returned by Google, by the way.)
Short answer: "Brown's gas has been going to revolutionize automobiles, welding, and lots of other stuff for many many years. Too bad that in all these years direct experiment still doesn't confirm the claims. -
Re:People should get curious about overunity devic
They do exist and are proven to work, you just don't hear about it, since the powers that be would rather you didn't.
Not for any definitions of "exist", "proven", and "work" that I'm familiar with.Lots of info and references here.
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Hydrinos/Blacklight Power.These sound like very good criteria. The funny thing is that when I attempt to apply them to this guy I still don't know what to make of him. Are these respectable journals that he claims to have some of his papers published in? I am curious what you think of this whole deal.
A google search for "hydrino" brings up a fair bit of commentary on the topic.
The technical paper reads like crackpot material. He takes great pains to pooh-pooh current interpretations of quantum mechanics of electrons, and restates many times that it's "just a theory based on unprovables". That raises a rather large red flag.
More importantly, two problems with his scenario crop up:
- If a lower-energy ground state of hydrogen existed, all hydrogen would already be at that ground state. The fact that we don't observe this (or, indeed, any natually occurring hydrogen in the "hydrino" state) puts the whole concept in question, as the proposed transition is very favourable energetically (so the resulting hydrino would form whenever it could and would be very stable).
- Much as with cold fusion, this claimed effect has widespread enough practical applications that you'd get a *huge* amount of investment and R&D happening on it if a significant number of people thought it was real or even _might_ be real. The fact that they've failed to convince most of the scientific community raises a red flag.
I suspect that their proposed changes to quantum mechanics turn out to have very obvious effects on other systems involving electrons (like, say, semiconductors) that are easily shown to not be present, but I don't have the math background to grind through their claims and the materials equations to check this.
A list of skeptical responses to Blacklight Power's claims can be found at http://www.phact.org/e/blp.htm. As these pages set out to debunk the claims, you can argue that they are biased. However, they do make a good attempt to provide reasonable evidence/demonstration.
Summary: Almost certainly a quack. May or may not be a scam for investment money. - If a lower-energy ground state of hydrogen existed, all hydrogen would already be at that ground state. The fact that we don't observe this (or, indeed, any natually occurring hydrogen in the "hydrino" state) puts the whole concept in question, as the proposed transition is very favourable energetically (so the resulting hydrino would form whenever it could and would be very stable).
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Oh, yeah. The Adams Motor. (roll eyes)
Hmmm, no wonder it sounds familiar. Oh, wait, it's a crock of shit. SUPRISE!
Ever build one yourself? Did those storage batteries last as long as you thought they would? And what math do you speak of? -
Debunked soundly here"The bottom line: You don't have an over-unity system until you can demonstrate a stand-alone device which drives itself and simultaneously generates a non-zero output power."
FWIW, YMMV, TWAGOS (Take with a grain of salt), DYOM (Do your own math), etc...
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Re:bullshitIf you postmodern relativists could even follow a rational thread in your own arguments, it might be worth a discussion, but this "there are no right answers" and "every point of view is just as valid" crap is killing math and science education.
So are you suggesting a Wile E. Coyote universe where gravity doesn't kick in until after you realize you've stepped off the cliff? Is your computer going to suddenly stop working when some other laws of physics are discovered?
The point the parent was making is that these zero-point and free energy people base their arguments on violation of some very fundamental tenents of physics. For them to be correct means that a whole lot of things we observe shouldn't be happening. This isn't like relativistic corrections to Newtonian physics that you have to look very carefully to observe, we're talking about "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats, living together... mass hysteria!" type of effects.
And, as it has been pointed out, these people pushing these zero point energy devices are con men suckering people out of millions of dollars. If you don't believe me then feel free to purchase a "dealership" from Dennis Lee or invest in Randy Mills "hydrinos." If they're right, you'll end up very wealthy, but the smart money says you'll get a better return on your investment by flushing it down the crapper.
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Notes on TilleyHere is a good page of random tilley stuff, including his ad hominem attacks on his critics. here are photos of a Tilley Vehicle from various angles.
the photos of the various parts and signage for his 'building power system' are here. I think it's the book 'Voodoo Science' that includes a chapter on it, also? (i think. Have to go home and check.) But this guy's a treat. I'm not surprised to find out about the heist. I AM alarmed that this guy has any credibility at all, but i guess there's always someone willing to believe...
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history of perpetual motion/free energy failures
If you have your view settings low enough to read this (or it somehow gets rated up by the people who do...)
look at
Eric's History of Perpetual Motion and Free Energy Machines
lots of failures. Thats a given.
also there is how to become a Free Energy con man -
history of perpetual motion/free energy failures
If you have your view settings low enough to read this (or it somehow gets rated up by the people who do...)
look at
Eric's History of Perpetual Motion and Free Energy Machines
lots of failures. Thats a given.
also there is how to become a Free Energy con man -
Idiot on the internet
It's hard to believe so many respectable publications ran the perpetual motion story, but we shouldn't be surprised; there have always been gullible people.
In fact, check out this guy's website: he's selling a book he wrote that explains the secrets of a true perpetual motion machine!
Fortunately, there are some sane people in the world too. Check out Professor Hibbert's Perpetual Motion Page, as well as Eric's History of Perpetual Motion and Free Energy Machines and Prof. R.P. Feynman's Perpetual Motion Page -
I know what it is
I have the explanation for how this gizmo works. As you lean in the direction you want to go, gravity acting on your body tries to pull you in that direction. The scooter, using its internal smarts, rolls that way without tipping over, maintaining balance, and thus you move off efficiently. It's the same propulsion system used in many perpetual motion machines. You can go as far and as fast as you want, powered by the acceleration of gravity.
(Please realise this is tongue-in-cheek. Though on a flat surface you can do alot with gravity and momentum -- that's why scooters work.) -
Re:free energy
Looks like Lee was recently arrested in Kentucky and freed on bail. More info at the following sites:
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Re:end of broadband = not!
I'm being reminded now of why this thing sounded so familiar. People might also want to check out the Adams Perpetual motion machine. And other free energy sources from Austrailia. One might expect this from an island formerly a prison colloney. j/k but I think it raises some interesting questions like whats in the water down there. Cause this runs right along side the perpetual motion scams.
http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html