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from uh NOT ESR...

turns out there is a LARGE body of very useful info online -- (and nerds can appreciate it.. unlike most "how to get laid for shy people" crap the methods are largely empirical/scientific -- you can read many tips/strategies with groundings in tested hypotheses and psych, NLP, etc. then read real stories of people who have tried them and succeeded). check it out, nothing to lose, except some wrist muscle, right?

(usenet) alt.seduction.fast
Pickup Guide - http://www.pickupguide.com
Fast Seduction 101 - http://www.fastseduction.com

good luck, happy bangin'... this stuff works. it talks about basic rules on how to carry yourself, body language, what to say to women and how to say it, basic attitudes, lots of war stories. interesting read at the very least

You are looking for the pickup guide.

"Strip" away all the manipulative embedded suggestion nonsense and the dumb macho ideology, and there's a few gems in there :)

Well, there are sites such as fastseduction.com that provide guides that are based upon the premise that lust and love are remarkably similar and can be installed in people by using using certain patterns of behavior. Click, whirr, anyone?

Don't waste your time with this crap.

http://www.pickupguide.com/classic/

> to be honest, getting girls has less to do with your mental
>ability and more to do with your physical ability.

I know this is off-topic, but...

Getting girls has most to do with your social skills.

How easy do you blend in society? How many non-geek friends do you have? Do you socialize often?

Do you enjoy talking to people and to girls, being in the middle of people, being in society?

If you interact very often to other non-geek people, are used to this, and you like it, then you can easily get a girl, even if you don't have a great body.

More information about getting girs can be found at:

http://www.fastseduction.com/

http://www.pickupguide.com/

... AKA "Let's Just Be Friends.

Check out those websites:

• http://www.pickupguide.com/ -- non commercial
• http://www.fastseduction.com/ -- non commercial
• http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/ -- non commercial
• http://www.seduction.com/ -- commercial

... and don't hear the abhorred "LJBF" line ever again!!!

-- Nathan SZILARD

See http://www.pickupguide.com or http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/ or the newsgroup alt.seduction.fast

*DO* RUSH IT!
In the past 3 months I've had sex with 5 women who I had just met at most 3 hours before! (Nah I did'nt pay anything -- actually I don't even buy women drinks! It's for frsutrated losers who think love can be bought!)
Whereas when I was in highschool ... duh.
I'm now 25 BTW.
I have the same approach with women as I have with programming: learn, experience, fail, debug, retry, score! Women want *sex*.
See http://www.pickupguide.com/
-- Nathan SZILARD

(From a former lonely geek now banging chicks left and right):

Useful resources:

• alt.seduction.fast
• http://www.fastseduction.com -- noncommercial despammified archive of the above newsgroup.
• http://www.pickupguide.com -- noncommercial compilation of advices
• Anton's PU guide -- noncommercial
• Ross Jeffries' Speed Seduction -- commercial

• alt.seduction.fast
• Open source info on picking up chicks
• Collaboratively developped guide HOWTO pickup girls

Stop whining, start playing!