Domain: pinboard.in
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Comments · 11
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Re:Oh, that Maciej!
He acquired the crap out of it. Choice comment:
Even Yahoo, for whom mismanagement is usually effortless, had to work hard to keep Delicious down.
...and he ends with:
Do not attempt to compete with Pinboard.
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Oh, that Maciej!
Maciej Ceglowski, a Polish-American web developer,
...better known as the owner of Pinboard (which recently bought Delicious!), and is somewhat well-known on Twitter for his snarky, witty commentary. He's not just some random guy with a blog.
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Have they fixed their terms?
In March this year, the owner of Pinboard complained about IFTTT's terms:
https://blog.pinboard.in/2016/...What it comes down to, is that if you integrate IFTTT with your product, you have to agree to the following terms:
- You implement their API but it's not the public one, instead it's an API which is only shown after agreeing to the terms
- When they change their API, you promptly update your code as well
- You will never compete with them
- They own the rights to all content that's pumped into IFTTT
- If you add something clever to the API, they own the patents -
If This Then Assholes
This is the same IFTTT that was a total dick to Pinboard.
https://blog.pinboard.in/2016/03/my_heroic_and_lazy_stand_against_ifttt/
Covered on Slashdot back on May 29
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Re:I'm usually hard for privacy but you know what
Whoa, slow down and back up a little... define "social"? Do you actually mean being social, or Being Social(tm)?
Also: http://blog.pinboard.in/2011/11/the_social_graph_is_neither/
He has completely lost his touch on reality. In the world WE ALL live in, together.
And you really think by playing word games you're anything but being ironic when you say that? Seriously?
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Re:Invulnerable?
The problem is that you just need to be on the same blade server to be affected; see Pinboard.
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Re:It's not really social
It's not even really social.
older, but always a good read:
http://blog.pinboard.in/2011/11/the_social_graph_is_neither/
The social graph wants to turn us back into third graders, laboriously spelling out just who is our fifth-best-friend. But there's a reason we stopped doing that kind of thing in third grade!
You might almost think that the whole scheme had been cooked up by a bunch of hyperintelligent but hopelessly socially naive people, and you would not be wrong. Asking computer nerds to design social software is a little bit like hiring a Mormon bartender. Our industry abounds in people for whom social interaction has always been more of a puzzle to be reverse-engineered than a good time to be had, and the result is these vaguely Martian protocols.
But let's say an inspired mathlete proves me wrong. There's a brilliant hack that fixes all the issues I've raised and we go ahead and build the Platonic social graph. What can you actually do with it?
Well, one thing we've seen is that machine-readable lists of friends make it much easier to launch social sites. Letting a thousand startups bloom is one of the big justifications in Fitzpatrick's essay. But is removing this friction a good thing? It is admittedly annoying to have to re-follow people every time you sign up for something, but it also forces the authors to make the site appealing enough to get us over that hurdle. We're already starting to see apps whose first act is to suction down our contact list and spam our various accounts with invites without bothering to woo us at all. I can't imagine having open API access to the social graph is going to improve that.
In other domains, a big graph would be good for recommendations, but friendship is not transitive. There's just no way to tell if you'll get along with someone in my social circle, no matter how many friends we have in common.
But one thing you can do is mine a huge amount of information about my friends and infer things about their interests, income, social status and tastes. And then maybe you can use that information to bring them valuable news and offers, or help them digitally engage with their favorite brands.
Imagine the U.S. Census as conducted by direct marketers - that's the social graph.
Social networks exist to sell you crap. The icky feeling you get when your friend starts to talk to you about Amway, or when you spot someone passing out business cards at a birthday party, is the entire driving force behind a site like Facebook.
Because their collection methods are kind of primitive, these sites have to coax you into doing as much of your social interaction as possible while logged in, so they can see it. It's as if an ad agency built a nationwide chain of pubs and night clubs in the hopes that people would spend all their time there, rigging the place with microphones and cameras to keep abreast of the latest trends (and staffing it, of course, with that Mormon bartender).
We're used to talking about how disturbing this in the context of privacy, but it's worth pointing out how weirdly unsocial it is, too. How are you supposed to feel at home when you know a place is full of one-way mirrors?
We have a name for the kind of person who collects a detailed, permanent dossier on everyone they interact with, with the intent of using it to manipulate others for personal advantage - we call that person a sociopath. And both Google and Facebook have gone deep into stalker territory with their attempts to track our every action. Even if you have faith in their good intentions, you feel misgivings about stepping into the elaborate shrine they've built to document your entire online life.
Open data advocates tell us the answer is to reclaim this obsessive dossier for ourselves, so we can decide where to store it. But this misses the point of how stifling it is to have such a permanent record in the first place. Who does that kind of thing and calls it social?
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Re:Yahoo has TWO things that don't suck...
I'd recommend http://pinboard.in/ for a replacement. It's like del.icio.us back when it was just a place to have tagged, web-accessible bookmarks. It does have a mild one-time fee, but I'd say it's well worth it. (Standard "just a satisfied customer" disclaimer here.)
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Re:Sad
Pinboard? I just heard about it myself. You have to pay around $7 for an account (the price increases as the user-base grows), however you can get a refund in the first three days if you don't like it.
It has the ability to import from Delicious and, naturally, export your data back out. Thought I'd give it a whirl.
Something in the roadmap caught my eye:
Get acquired by Yahoo and slowly grow useless
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Re:Sad
Pinboard? I just heard about it myself. You have to pay around $7 for an account (the price increases as the user-base grows), however you can get a refund in the first three days if you don't like it.
It has the ability to import from Delicious and, naturally, export your data back out. Thought I'd give it a whirl.
Something in the roadmap caught my eye:
Get acquired by Yahoo and slowly grow useless
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Re:Crap.
I think several sites can import from Delicious (but maybe not using the xml).
http://pinboard.in/ doesn't seem to be getting very many mentions here and will import from Delicious.