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Finger, mount, fsck, fsck, fsck, unmount, done.

Or something like that. ;-p

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"So you are in favour of race-hate campaigns, terrorist propagranda and bigotry in all its forms?"

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I am in favor of such things IF , and only if, all other sides can be fairly represented. Free speech is free speech only of all speech can be made. In other words, though I may not agree with your pro-Christian (belief|bigotry|zealotry), I will in no way hinder your ability to speak your mind or to communicate with others.

"It's that sort of thing which led to things like the Columbine massacre and bomb-threats to schools."

Actually, lack of parenting and an oppressive caste structure lead to Columbine. Bomb threats to schools were largely copy cat attempts.

Do tell me, AC; how does a six year old boy murdering a classmate with a(n illegal) handgun tie in with the spread of information or freedom of speech? Sounds like absentee parents to me.

"Children need to be protected from things like this which can lead them astray from living a decent life."

They also (IMHO) need to be informed of what's out there. Sticking your head (or your child's head) in the sand will not make the guns, bombs, hatred, or ignorace go away. Tell me, what's the short definition of ignorance? Not knowing. If children are not educated fully (made possible by *gasp* free speech and the spread of information), then how are they going to be prepared for the difficult issues in life? If you don't want your child to drink, which will be more effective: beating her ass when the subject comes up, or showing her what the effects of underage drinking can be?

"Trying to censor it out of existance is not dangerous...any good Christian and parent should attempt to do so as a matter of course."

I'm uncertain as to with which diety you hold allegience, but it does not sound like the God of Abraham.



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"Please folks, don't get your image of native Americans from John Wayne films."

Where, pray, does your image come from?

(Genuine questtion)

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Pertinant links:

Here, at Server51.net, is some info on SLASH.

-and-

This is the place you really want to go. Slashcode.com. Here, you'll find bug reports, feature requests, and the latest source (and a few trolls...just like home :-).

Also be sure to look through the mailing list archives... (at Server51, I believe)...

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...to this episode was seeing Gillian with a BFG ;-)

Anyone else think that was cool?

BTW, I missed the Cops episode. Did that one suck more than this one?

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"Parents could set up a proxy server for every computer their kid has access to, which remembers every URL the kid visits; later, the parents could review the list..."

That's a great idea. However, I read something here yesterday (on jamie's library story) that makes this a bad idea.

If you're a kid, and your parents are abusive, you don't want them to see you researching how to [run away|get help| remove yourself from their control]. If you're a fifteen year-old girl, you may not want your dad to see that you accessed Planned Parenthood looking for information on contraceptives.

There are other examples as well. These are situations where complete disclosure could potentially put someone's life at risk (especially the first example).

Any suggestions as to how to get around this problem, while still implementing this idea?


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Real Software Engineers

Real Computer Scientists

These and many others can be found here.

And, to anyone who might know, the evolut ion of a programmer page has code that looks like LISP (senior year in high school). Is this so?

Also, will the code for the master programmer compile?


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"with every participant at the web site giving up as many legal rights as any participant in any mailing list."

So you would ask that several hundred thousand users give up their rights to their comments, just to participate?

I, for one, would not participate if I did not have that choice avaliable to me. I would also resent it if ever Rob did such a thing.

"This is a much more direct solution than writing a new GPL something or other licence"

We probably wouldn't need to write a new GPL something. In my original comment, I suggested something HTTP specific (called it the SlashComment Public License). It would appear that the open content license could be easily modified to serve this purpose.

"put web hosted forums on the same playing field as majordomo mailing lists."

I would argue that there's enough of a difference between the two to call for a different license/redistribution structure. The biggest difference, IMHO, is that web forums allow you to be totally anonymous. With a maling list, you aren't totally guaranteed anonymity by virtue of having to have an email address to participate. If I wanted to badly enough, I could probably trace your email address back to you. With Slashdot, I have no such ablility.

Therefore, I would propose a slightly different structure. Just as you have the ability to pop in and post to /. as an AC, so should you have tha ability to decide what is done with the comment you just submitted.

Am I making sense here?

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Awww jeez...

Here we go again. This guy isn't Roblimo.

He's RobLimo_ User #146994

The Roblimo we know and love is user # 357

Keep this in mind when you respond to him...

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...those `GPL for Books' kind of licenses?

Combine that with an option below the Comment window (like Slashdot's) to `Include comment in SCPL (SlashComment Public License)'. That way, the poster still owns the comment *and* gives permission for others to use it in a manner consistant with the SCPL.

This would also allow people to opt in and out, legally, and at will. Make the option avaliable to all (AC and those with accounts) and, voila! Problem solved.

This would also make things easier for posters. Remember the _Jane's_ happening? There were people who were quoted and not given credit (at first. IIRC, all of those problems got sorted out). With something like the SCPL, the license writers could include a clause that made it mandatory to give due credit.

The best part about this is that it's a vouluntary system. Since it's a contract that you knowingly enter into, there's no problems with comments beig `stolen', taken out of context, or abused.

Comments?

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Yeah, that's the only way to get out of it.

Question is, how many people are actually dexterous(is that a word? ;-) enough to do that?

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Actually, this one would probably screw you worse...

Yes kids, it is malicious...

(Actually, I could make it worse still if I could figure out a way to make /. recognize onMouseOver and onMouseOut. Put a killer javascript link in, onMouseOver="window.status='http://friendlyplace.c om'; return true" onMouseOut="window.status='Document: Done'; return true". That would be killer...)

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"why hasn't some Linux developer written a driver for them?"

Kinda tough to write code for something you can't get specs to.

From the Winmodems are not Modems MiniFAQ: (third section on the page)
3. But someone must have adapted or reverse-engineered one by now!
Winmodem vendors will not release the source code. Without it, creating a software modem is a non-trivial programming task.

There's a link to Deja.com on the subject. Appears the manufaturers don't want to release specs for the community until there's a demand. There isn't really a demand because people know that Winmodems don't work with Linux.

Feel free to draw your own conclusions...

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1. Dell has figured out a way to make Linux play with Winmodems (hw/sw). This is an immeasureably Good Thing(TM), for obvious reasons...
2. The PC Card (I still prefer PCMCIA; rolls off the tongue better) is actually not a Winmodem. This is what the article seems to imply (citing IBM's troubles with Winmodems).

...Yeah, but do they run...oh nevermind... :-)

ObOt: Do those things come with real modems or Winmodems? (I seem to have misplaced the specs)

DOH! RTFA. PCMCIA. Well, great! I guess it's time to go buy a laptop...

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• Break even. Take in as much money as they pay out. Give each subsidiary a cap on how much can be charged for goods/services. Then bring in one good manager at the top and give 'em free reign.
• Improve effeciency. Make whatever processes that need to be in place as simple and effective as possible. This saves money and makes your `customers' (the People(TM)) happier. HappyCitizens == HappyGovernment.
• Compete. Compete with other government `companies' Compete with companies in the real world. Do whatever is needed to make your workers more than mere `clerks'. Give performance bonuses. Make it clear that they can loose thei job very easily if they don't perform. Give them something to work toward and be proud of. Think about it. When's the last time you saw a government employee who was proud of their position?

ROFL!!

(Of course, the parent I'm replying to has been moderated (Score:1 Redundant))

Either there is a moderator that just doesn't get it, or there's a moderator with a very twisted sense of humor.

I prefer to think that the latter is the case...

:-)

Oh, and thanks Rob!!!!

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The gyros [snip] were flawed designs however.

Actually, (IIRC) the gyros were designed to last for a period of time x. They lasted something like x+6months. These were the water-filled gyros.

The new gyros are gel-filled and designed to last a period of time x^3.

So, as far as designs go, the gyros weren't flawed, they just lasted as long as the materials dictated that they would. Now that we have better materials, we can make better gyros. Dig?

Now the mirror is a different story entirely....

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I can see it now... An AOL/TW/EMI merger with the United States Government.

Hrmmm...Segfault is actually useful nowadays...

Look here.

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"What's wrong with a yellow car?"

Two words...

Taxi cab.

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"Offtopic: why do the & lt/gt characters get processed and displayed for preview mode, but not after the post has been submitted?"

Probably because the logic behind itwould be wierd. That's mainly due (this is a guess, here) to the fact that Rob allows html in the posts. I doubt SLASH is designed to try and figure out what you actually mean by & gt; or & lt;.

I mean, are you trying to make a tag, or illustrate a tag? Is that really html, or are you just trying to show a tag properly?

Add to this the fact that you're viewing /. in a web browser and things get kinda complex.

I just try to keep in mind the fact that SLASH is going to act this way, and that I need to respond accordingly...



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Hm...

How Appropriate
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"I already have all the latest software."

"Only then do they kill you. The bullet always comes in the back of the head. "

Da, Tovaritch.

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Please, please, PLEASE be careful what you say!

"sick of kids complaining that their schools or parents are being nosey...you children have no 'rights'"

Stop right there. To say that kids have no rights is to condone child labor. To say that kids have no right to privacy _at all_ is to open the gates and let Big Brother(tm) walk right on in for the rest of us. If a child can have no expectation of privacy or rights at all, then they will simply become more clever at hiding things. I know I did. If a child has no expectation of rights at all, then how will they learn to stand up for their rights as an adult?

"your parents are responsible for your actions"

Apparently not in this situation. Also, that premise is faulty. Why are there 16 year olds on death row?

"Get off of your high horse and come down to earth Mr. Katz, yes some of these things are a bit extreme, but if it saves lives then it's all for the best."

While we turn out a generation of hollow conformist shells. You obviously thought this one out...

"You want a solution to this problen, lets start with school uniforms and strict curfews."

Boundries are good. Still kinda tough when both parents work late. By your standards, I would have been a troublemaker in high school. I got to school at 6:30 in the morning and usually didn't get picked up at night until 8:00, oft-times later. But, still a good start...

I am unclear as to where your ideas end and the sarcasm begins...

"parents need a tighter rein on kids these days, quit blaming guns, games, internet, and movies. The fault can be laid directly at the feet of the parents and the school."

Verily. Let's just not go overboard and create (note I do not say raise here) a leigon of young'uns that are seen and not heard, do not speak out of turn, and always do what they are told. Hell, while we're at it, let's hobble 'em like they do women in China. That should help.

"So on a serious note kiddies, your parents have a
right to anything you "own" or that you put in writing, you have no right to privacy."

See earlier in this post.

In conclusion, I whole-heartedly agree with the idea of discipline and parental involvement. I _do not_ agree with the concept that kids are property, which is what you have implied. Ever stop to think that maybe that concept got parents into trouble in the first place? 'Oh, it's a cute little possession. I hope I don't have to take care of it.'

When we start treating our young like young adults, not new machines, not toys, not trophies, then maybe we can start to fix this problem. Hysteria and knee jerk reactions (in either direction) will not help. Check my sig; I believe in what I say...



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