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SCO scares me.
They are so sure of themselves. They also said that.. they showed many people the offending source if they signed an NDA. Has anyone ever spoken to these people?
I mean.. if SCO wastes so much time on this seemingly-absurd plan, maybe they have a reason to believe they might win.

It's funny to read SCO's demand letter for unix licensees. It has some reasonable requests, like:

The company has not made available for export, directly or indirectly, any part of UNIX covered by their agreement to any country that is currently prohibited from receiving supercomputing technology, including Syria, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and any other such country, through a distribution under the General Public License (GPL) for Linux, or otherwise.

The company has notified each employee and its contractors to whom they have disclosed UNIX that their disclosure must be kept in confidence.

Then there are the funny demands:

The company, its employees and contractors have not transferred or disposed of, through contributions to Linux or otherwise, any part of UNIX.

I have no control over what the janitors who work for the contracted out janitorial service do on their spare time.

The company, its employees and contractors have not transferred or disposed of, through contributions to Linux or otherwise, any part of UNIX.

I can't dispose of it? I have to keep the old 150 meg qic tapes containing IRIX 4 forever? Riiight.

The company, its employees and contractors have held, at all times, all parts of the UNIX products in confidence for SCO.

I have no control over what contractors did before they come to work for my company. If a contractor disclosed copyright information they got from a previous job, that's the contractors fault, not mine.

No employees or contractors that have had access to UNIX have contributed any software code based on that product to Linux or any other UNIX-based software product.

access to UNIX???? You're claiming control based on on access to UNIX???? Most of the computer users in the world have access to unix - unix shell accounts, unix email servers, unix webservers. Access to unix source code, might be a reasonable demand, but this is ridiculous. And what is a software product? If I write a simple unix program (and is therefore based on unix) what I do with my program is my business.

No employees or contractors that have had access to UNIX have contributed any software code based on that product to Linux or any other UNIX-based software product.


There is a world of difference between "software code based on that product" and "software code based on that product in violation copyright law"

Sco isn't getting much value for their $9 million in legal fees. A 1st year law student can find a dozen holes in this demand letter.

SCO Group Fourth Quarter 2003 Webcast and Conference Call

SCO Group Fourth Quarter 2003 Webcast and Conference Call

The poster is trying to point out that the fiscal earnings call was today at 11 am, rather than tomorrow, so no need to mod him down.

I have heard somewhere that this guy is into hardcore crack!

But I'll answer instead.
* "More mod down than up." Maybe there are more trolls than interesting or informative people. I can easily believe this. Also, If something is well said, several people may mod it up at the same time - remember there's a time lag between post, mod, post score change, other people do stuff, etc.
* "logged in are modded down faster then AC." This is cuz when a user first gets mod points, they may not change their preferences. I go in and set "threshold" and "highlight threshold" to -1 when I get mod points. Then I put it back to 2,3 like I normally use. But some moderators may not change their thresholds, and may have AC modded DOWN -1 in their prefs. This would result in what you're seeing.
* "Once your karma hits -4 or -5, your posts are -1 and no one mods you down anymore. AC is 0". AC is higher than bad karma cuz it's not nice to assume the worst of a stranger. As for low karma users being ignored, well of course. See previous answer.
* "some posts modded down are clever but off topic....news site like /." Yup. There's an "Offtopic" choice when the moderator justifies his mod. PS: This ain't a news site. It's a gossip site where the topic is often something in the news.
* "digging deep..." You can this stuff right on the surface in a cow pasture. The motto here is "news for nerds. Stuff that matters", NOT "Fair and balanced". You don't want to hear about how great linux is? Try this.
* "I thank you for your time". You're welcome.

They did pay SCO licensing...what better way to "ensure compatibility with UNIX and UNIX services" than to stick a *NIX microkernel in windows?

I don't know why everybody is making such a big deal over this. If you want to see the infringing code get it from sco. They will make it available (provided you sign a NDA).

Taken directly from the SCO Linux IP License FAQ.

15. Is SCO willing to show any examples of source-code violations to Linux users?
SCO has been showing examples of direct line-by-line copying of UNIX code into Linux to hundreds of industry analysts, reporters, customers, partners, and industry influencers since June of this year. To view this code, interested parties have had to sign a non-disclosure agreement verifying that they would keep this code in confidence. SCO continues to identify and show this code to parties willing to sign a non-disclosure agreement.

There you go, talk with SCO, sign the NDA and start grep'ing the source tree, then lets really see if SCO has anything.

First off, why is such a worthless OS front page news on /.? SCO Unix is mediocre, and nobody would even think of using it. The only reason a SCO Unix review is on /. is because of the lawsuit hubbub.

I was poking through the SCO web site some time ago, to find good stuff for my SCO Report website and I discover SCObiz. Check it out. For $5,000, they'll basically give you a template site, with mediocre ecommerce ability. The datasheet is here (pdf), while the quick facts (pdf) is here. A Flash tour is here.

The Flash tour is pretty snappy, but you can tell, it's nothing more than a glorified template driven website builder for newbies, similar to what Tripod and Geocities provide with their drag and drop stuff. It's probably even worse.

Remember to visit SCO Report, where I do my part to annoy SCO with the truth, and SCO Countdown, where there are clocks counting down to SCO's demise...

First off, why is such a worthless OS front page news on /.? SCO Unix is mediocre, and nobody would even think of using it. The only reason a SCO Unix review is on /. is because of the lawsuit hubbub.

I was poking through the SCO web site some time ago, to find good stuff for my SCO Report website and I discover SCObiz. Check it out. For $5,000, they'll basically give you a template site, with mediocre ecommerce ability. The datasheet is here (pdf), while the quick facts (pdf) is here. A Flash tour is here.

The Flash tour is pretty snappy, but you can tell, it's nothing more than a glorified template driven website builder for newbies, similar to what Tripod and Geocities provide with their drag and drop stuff. It's probably even worse.

Remember to visit SCO Report, where I do my part to annoy SCO with the truth, and SCO Countdown, where there are clocks counting down to SCO's demise...

First off, why is such a worthless OS front page news on /.? SCO Unix is mediocre, and nobody would even think of using it. The only reason a SCO Unix review is on /. is because of the lawsuit hubbub.

I was poking through the SCO web site some time ago, to find good stuff for my SCO Report website and I discover SCObiz. Check it out. For $5,000, they'll basically give you a template site, with mediocre ecommerce ability. The datasheet is here (pdf), while the quick facts (pdf) is here. A Flash tour is here.

The Flash tour is pretty snappy, but you can tell, it's nothing more than a glorified template driven website builder for newbies, similar to what Tripod and Geocities provide with their drag and drop stuff. It's probably even worse.

Remember to visit SCO Report, where I do my part to annoy SCO with the truth, and SCO Countdown, where there are clocks counting down to SCO's demise...

First off, why is such a worthless OS front page news on /.? SCO Unix is mediocre, and nobody would even think of using it. The only reason a SCO Unix review is on /. is because of the lawsuit hubbub.

I was poking through the SCO web site some time ago, to find good stuff for my SCO Report website and I discover SCObiz. Check it out. For $5,000, they'll basically give you a template site, with mediocre ecommerce ability. The datasheet is here (pdf), while the quick facts (pdf) is here. A Flash tour is here.

The Flash tour is pretty snappy, but you can tell, it's nothing more than a glorified template driven website builder for newbies, similar to what Tripod and Geocities provide with their drag and drop stuff. It's probably even worse.

Remember to visit SCO Report, where I do my part to annoy SCO with the truth, and SCO Countdown, where there are clocks counting down to SCO's demise...

First off, why is such a worthless OS front page news on /.? SCO Unix is mediocre, and nobody would even think of using it. The only reason a SCO Unix review is on /. is because of the lawsuit hubbub.

I was poking through the SCO web site some time ago, to find good stuff for my SCO Report website and I discover SCObiz. Check it out. For $5,000, they'll basically give you a template site, with mediocre ecommerce ability. The datasheet is here (pdf), while the quick facts (pdf) is here. A Flash tour is here.

The Flash tour is pretty snappy, but you can tell, it's nothing more than a glorified template driven website builder for newbies, similar to what Tripod and Geocities provide with their drag and drop stuff. It's probably even worse.

Remember to visit SCO Report, where I do my part to annoy SCO with the truth, and SCO Countdown, where there are clocks counting down to SCO's demise...

You think it's bad living in the same town as a small grade spammer, try having to be a linux user in the same town as one of slashdot's favorite companies
Talk about not wanting to show your face at times.
Then again, it's a great chance to start doing something about it.

• Director of Investor Relations (posted 21 Nov)
• Executive-Assistant, Investor Relations (27 Oct)
• Internal Auditor (21 Nov)
• Director of Financial Reporting (8 Dec)

Now pay attention to the date on that last job opening. That is Monday following SCOX's 5-Dec lame oral arguments.

Why suddenly is this position vacant? Some theories...

• Are they looking for a more compliant director who will report to the SEC what they want reported? Maybe not, the new position says that the person must be familiar with the Serbanes-Oxley act of 2002 (passed after Enron) which makes the CEO have to sign SEC statements and be criminally liable for misstatements. (So was the last Director of Financial Reporting unaware of this?)
• Does this have anything to do with SCO moving their financial results from Dec 8 back to Dec 3 to be before the lame Dec 5 oral arguments, and then suddenly delaying the results to Dec 22 due to "internal audit problems"? I thought one of the investors said that they need an external auditor?
• Is Darl trying to book the recent $50 Million investment as "revenue" so that he can get his 4th and 5th profitable quarter? (Background: Darl gets a big golden parachute if he pulls off four profitable quarters, and he needs a fifth in which to dump his stock before the house of cards collapses.) It seems like SCO's recent "revenue guidance" suggests something in the 22 to 25 million range for this and next quarter. (Am I mistaken here?) For the benefit of those slashdotters who cannot add, this and next sounds to me like they add up to about the $50 million.
• finally, another theory would be connected to rats and sinking ships
• Maybe looking for a fall guy?

So, if you're out of work and qualified, a great career opportunity would be to work at SCO!



Director of Financial Reporting and SEC/GAAP Compliance Requisition# 40238


http://www.sco.com/company/jobs/
Type: Exempt
Posted 08 December, 2003

Location: Lindon, UT

Department:

Reports To: Controller
Apply Now

Job Description:
Responsible for the financial reporting of quarterly and annual results in accordance with SEC rules and regulations. Responsible for the filing of registration statements and other periodic filings as required. Duties will include the drafting and review of quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, annual reports on Form 10-K, periodic reports on Form 8-K, as well as assist in the preparation of registration and proxy statements and any other filings. Other responsibilities will include the monitoring of the Company's compliance with current SEC, FASB and other regulatory literature that pertains to accounting and financial reporting. This position will also lead the Company's effort on maintaining an effective system of internal control, and ensuring the internal control structure is in compliance with the requirements of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act. Additional special projects will be given on an "as occurring" basis.

Job Responsibilities:

Financial reporting of quarterly and annual results in accordance with SEC rules and regulations Filing of registration statements and other periodic filings as required Drafting and review of quarterly and annual reports Assist in the preparation of registration and proxy statements and any other filings Monitoring of the Company's compliance with current SEC, FASB and other regulatory literature that pertains to accounting and financial reporting Additional special projects will be given on an "as occurring" basis.

Job Requirements:

Masters degree in accounting and experience as a manager with a public accounting firm and a minimum of 8 years accounting experience. Extensive financial reporting experience

Well since the alleged flood on SCO's web site, I was curious enough to go visit it. Interesting are the news items there.

SCO Ranked 75 In Deloitte Technology Fast 500

The SCO(R) Group (SCO) (Nasdaq: SCOX), a leading provider of business software solutions, today announced its ranking-number 75-on the 2003 Deloitte Technology Fast 500, a ranking of the 500 fastest growing technology companies in North America.

Darl McBride Ranked in Top 25 IT Executives for 2003

Darl McBride, president and CEO of The SCO Group, was ranked among the top 25 executives in the IT industry, according to CRN. The ranking represents McBride's fight to raise industry awareness of the importance of protecting intellectual property in a digital age"

and then this little troll from SCO in the NEWS

Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux

It's sad to see how people are so misguided.

My point exactly on ftp.sco.com, I check them during the incident, and response time seemed normal.

What bothers me avout the whole incident is that we just have one confirmation that there was a 32 hour attack on SCO.
Just where are all the zombies? What OS where they running? What vulnerability on the zombies was exploited? Where are the rest of the confirmations that this was a DDOS?

Answers to the above questions were flying all over the 'net when Microsoft was DDOSed, where are they now? I know more people hate Microsoft than SCO, but the people with the tools to detect the DDoS attacks are vendor neutral.

An interesting quote from CAIDA:
"Around 2:50 AM PST Thursday morning, December 11, the attacker(s) began to attack SCO's ftp (file transfer protocol) servers in addition to continuing the web server attack. Together www.sco.com and ftp.sco.com experienced a SYN flood of over 50,000 packet-per-second early Thursday morning. By mid-morning Thursday (9 AM PST), the attack rate had reduced considerably to around 3,700 packets per second. Throughout Thursday morning, the ftp server received the brunt of the attack, although the high-intensity attack on the ftp server lasted for a considerably shorter duration than the web server attack. At 10:40 AM PST, SCO removed their web servers from the Internet and stopped responding to the incoming attack traffic. Their Internet Service Provider (ISP) appears to have filtered all traffic destined for the web and ftp servers until they came back online at 5 PM PST."

So not only did the ISP filter the traffic for the ftp servers, it seems to have mirrored the ftp server, since I was able to explore the ftp site and also download download an ISO: SCOX Dev CD

So the Bandwidth to the DDoSed ftp server either was not saturated, or the ftp server was not DDoSed, or maybe, just maybe, it was an inside job!

...and JPriest starts another round of DDOS at SCO

SCO form

SCO feedback form

SCO feedback form

That is what one gets when one keeps crying wolf!

Unfortunately, the number of words in that sentence did not exhaust the immense volume of even the big lies told by SCO.

I hope the wolf is IBM.

Quoting the article in CAIDA report...
Their Internet Service Provider (ISP) appears to have filtered all traffic destined for the web and ftp servers until they came back online at 5 PM PST.
To the best of my recollection, I connected to the SCO ftp servers some time in the late afternoon (~4pm Mountain time). The www2.sco.com server also was up all the time. You would have a hard time checking this with netcraft though - SCO Unix does not provide uptime information.

Uhm, go here --> SCO.com

Join the Silly Characters Organization. I can't see them becoming very popular.
I'm not sure if that's better than cannibalism, tough.

Maybe it's time to stop reading so much /.

How slashdot handles these bogus urls :)

Nice, looks like everyone took your advice. SCO is already dead.

No, no. This is Slashdot. Here's how you do it:

Hot girls willing to do it with geeks!

1001 reasons why Micro$oft sucks!

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What you've all waited for: the Torvalds-McBride Grudge Match!!

What you've all waited for: the Torvalds-RMS GNU/Grudge match!!

Find new ways to bash Star Trek, win a prize! (with apologies to CleverNickName)

No, no. This is Slashdot. Here's how you do it:

Hot girls willing to do it with geeks!

1001 reasons why Micro$oft sucks!

Free LOTR stuff!!

What you've all waited for: the Torvalds-McBride Grudge Match!!

What you've all waited for: the Torvalds-RMS GNU/Grudge match!!

Find new ways to bash Star Trek, win a prize! (with apologies to CleverNickName)

No, no. This is Slashdot. Here's how you do it:

Hot girls willing to do it with geeks!

1001 reasons why Micro$oft sucks!

Free LOTR stuff!!

What you've all waited for: the Torvalds-McBride Grudge Match!!

What you've all waited for: the Torvalds-RMS GNU/Grudge match!!

Find new ways to bash Star Trek, win a prize! (with apologies to CleverNickName)

No, no. This is Slashdot. Here's how you do it:

Hot girls willing to do it with geeks!

1001 reasons why Micro$oft sucks!

Free LOTR stuff!!

What you've all waited for: the Torvalds-McBride Grudge Match!!

What you've all waited for: the Torvalds-RMS GNU/Grudge match!!

Find new ways to bash Star Trek, win a prize! (with apologies to CleverNickName)

No, no. This is Slashdot. Here's how you do it:

Hot girls willing to do it with geeks!

1001 reasons why Micro$oft sucks!

Free LOTR stuff!!

What you've all waited for: the Torvalds-McBride Grudge Match!!

What you've all waited for: the Torvalds-RMS GNU/Grudge match!!

Find new ways to bash Star Trek, win a prize! (with apologies to CleverNickName)

No, no. This is Slashdot. Here's how you do it:

Hot girls willing to do it with geeks!

1001 reasons why Micro$oft sucks!

Free LOTR stuff!!

What you've all waited for: the Torvalds-McBride Grudge Match!!

What you've all waited for: the Torvalds-RMS GNU/Grudge match!!

Find new ways to bash Star Trek, win a prize! (with apologies to CleverNickName)

On a different note, perhaps we should all (all /. readers) visit the SCO site each day, maybe even multiple times a day, to make sure we don't miss out on some important information.

And remember, you'll want to disable your cache to do this. Oh, and if you have a browser that allows you to set it to auto refresh, that would be a good idea too. It would really be a shame to miss an important press release just because you forgot to hit Refresh often enough...

Unfortunately, SCO's unknown (linux) server is having some difficulty right now.

What (obviously) amuses me is that this frequent refreshing of their news page would be justified, given their proclivity for using press releases to disseminate important information.

Don't nobody link to anything on the SCO site today, wouldn't want them to think they are getting DDoSed while they are being /.ed!

Just to make sure people know what not to link to, this is it: http://www.sco.com

So, whatever you do, don't click that link or add additional links to it.

kthx

SCO Experiences Distributed Denial of Service Attack

It was suggested on the Yahoo BBS that perhaps this was a DNS IP transition that wasn't properly planned by the BOFH admin. Could that mean this website has been up and running all along on this new IP address?

SCO Grows Your Business http.://216.250.128.20 vs the old address of 216.250.128.13?

Inquiring minds want to know! News editors are breathless waiting! Investors are fretting! BSD users dread being blamed next! The SLTPD and FBI need your assistance in tracking down the real SCO-flaws

Hey guys, the trailer for the next Star Wars movie is RIGHT HERE!!!!.

something like this ? http://www.sco.com or ftp://ftp.sco.com

something like this ? http://www.sco.com or ftp://ftp.sco.com

Uhm....

(The content confuses me, too).

Plug your web server back in SCO. Unplugging your web server and claiming you're under DDoS == very amusing.

www.sco.com

Hey, the link isn't working...

All this looks rather dodgy. Maybe they just hope to get slashdotted and then claim that this was the DDOS attack...

Grow up. Settle it by the law.

or atleast taking down the site the old fasion way... by posting it on /.

www.sco.com

ain't no synflood at *.sco.com ... click me.

Um, "simoniker" -- you should have posted when they had suffered ... not while they're still suffering. Of course with a link back to SCO.

...wait for them to fix it and THEN /. them all over again. Suckers.

You can help out by clicking here....

You didn't think I meant you should help SCO out did you?...

Something might be going on. When trying www.sco.com I do get a connection refused. When under heavy load, I would expect a connection time out ... unless course I don't know Jack [flash animation] about HTTP ;-)

Evert

Yahoo story
Check for yourselves
SCO Experiences Distributed Denial of Service Attack
Wednesday December 10, 3:19 pm ET
Syn Attack Halts Availability to SCO's Internal Operations

# LINDON, Utah, Dec. 10 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The SCO Group, Inc., (Nasdaq: SCOX - News) the owner of the UNIX operating system, today confirmed that on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 at approximately 4:20 a.m. Mountain Time, it experienced a large scale distributed denial of service (DDoS) attack. The attack caused the company's Web site (www.sco.com) and corporate operational traffic to be unavailable during the morning hours including e-mail, the company intranet, and customer support operations. The company's Web site remains unavailable while this DDoS attack continues to take place. The company is working with its Internet Service Provider to restore www.sco.com to legitimate Internet users.(Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/19990421/SCOLO GO )

This specific type of DDoS attack, called a "syn attack," took place when several thousand servers were compromised by an unknown person to overload SCO's Web site with illegitimate Web site requests. The flood of traffic by these illegitimate requests caused the company's ISP's Internet bandwidth to be consumed so the Web site was inaccessible to any other legitimate Web user.

"SCO is working with law enforcement officials and gathering information through mechanisms that we have in place to help us identify the origin of these attacks," said company spokesperson, Blake Stowell. "We deplore these activities by those who try to intimidate or harass legitimate businesses through cyber terrorist tactics while hiding their true identity."