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Let's Put SCO Behind Bars
While the lawsuits being defended by IBM and filed by Red Hat are likely to put an end to The SCO Group's menace to the Free Software community, I don't think simply putting the company out of business is likely to prevent us from being threatened this way again by other companies who are enemies to our community. I feel we need to send a stronger message.
If we all work together, we can put the executives of the SCO Group in prison where they belong.
If you live in the U.S., please write a letter to your state Attorney General. If you live elsewhere, please write your national or provincial law enforcement authorities. Please ask that the SCO Group be prosecuted for criminal fraud and extortion.
It makes me very sad to write this, because I lived in Santa Cruz for fifteen years. Sam Sjogren, a close friend from Caltech, was one of SCO's first programmers, and for a little while my only friend in town after I transferred to UCSC. Many of my best friends used to work for SCO either writing code or doing tech support. I even used to sit in the company hot tub with my friends who worked there from time to time. I used to dance to the music of SCO's company band Deth Specula at parties around the town.
Before I ever installed my first Linux distro - remember Yggdrasil Plug-n-Play? - I was a happy user of a fully-licensed copy of SCO Open Desktop on my 386.
You wouldn't think the SCO Group of today is the same company that once had to tell its employees that they shouldn't be naked at work between 9 and 5 because they scared the visiting suits from AT&T. That's because it's not - the SCO Group got its name and intellectual property from SCO through an acquisition. I don't think any of the friends I once knew at the company are likely to still be working there. The SCO Group is in Utah. SCO was originally called The Santa Cruz Operation, a small father-and son consulting firm named for a beautiful small town between the mountains and the ocean in central California. The Santa Cruz Operation was once as much a bunch of freethinking hippies as any Linux hacker of today.
Yes, it makes me sad. But I digress.
It seems that SCO is asking a license fee of $699 for each Linux installation. Take a look at SCO's press release announcing the licensing program. That's just the introductory price - if we don't purchase our licenses before October 15, the price will increase to $1399.
I have three computers that run Linux. That means SCO claims I must pay $2097 today, or $4197 if I wait until after October 15. SCO says their fee applies even to devices running embedded linux, many of which were purchased by their owners for far less than SCO's "license fee".
My response is that SCO is guilty of criminal fraud and extortion. I didn't violate SCO's copyright or acquire their trade secrets through any illegal means, and it is fraud for them to claim that I did. It is extortion for them to tell me I must pay them money to avoid a lawsuit.
Even if SCO's claims are true, it is not a violation of their copyright for me to possess a copy of their code. Instead, any copyright infringement was committed by the vendors who supplied me with the Linux distributions I use.
SCO's license is actually no license at all - if it really is found that the Linux kernel contains any infringing code, the GPL forbids everyone who possesses a copy from using it at all. No one would be allowed to con
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Re:Must... have... licensing... revenue...
Except for this guy, Kevin Skousen... he's exercising an option at $10, if I read this right. What sort of upside does he see and what color is the sky in his world?!
Incidentally, can someone point me to a better spot that ir.sco.com to see 'SCO exec's dumping their stock over the weekend'... most edgar-ish sites seem to be a month or more behind in reporting compared to this page? Is the 24th the weekend AC meant?!
Hmm... I despise SCO enough that I'm finally found something journal-worthy... Details for the masses off http://ir.sco.com/edgar.cfm on my /. journal here in a few minutes... who had what # of shares when, etc. Otherwise, it's too much work to dig out a macro-trend for most people to waste all this effort tracking individual SEC filings.
PS: I propose a different kind of DDOS to the sco pages... lots of legalese asking for clarification of license terms for OpenLinux, FreeDos, BSD, or anything else. The tougher the question, the better. I suspect this is a method (overwork) that Shakespeare would feel applied when he said: First thing, let's kill all the Lawyers. (Henry IV or V?)
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Re:show sco where to stick their license fees
http://www.sco.com/company/feedback/index.html visit their webpage and tell them were they can stick their license fees.
Mod parent up, and this is an easier link. That was cool. They just got a request for Linux licensing requirements from Usama in Afghanistan, and they thanked me for it. Slashdotting their chosen extortion response system seems like a Good Thing.
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License agreement1. This is supposed to be the license agreement text http://lwn.net/Articles/43085/
2. Section 2.0 of their license text, says they don't grant any distribution rights. The whole license say it's a right-to-use, not distribute. So any OEM who signs up presumably should just leave their devices in the warehouse and not actually try to sell them, or use them only internally!
3. From http://www.sco.com/scosource/linuxlicensefaq.html
Why doesn't SCO offer an IP License for Linux to the Linux distribution companies so that they can bundle SCO IP with their Linux distribution?
The SCO compliance program is an end-user program for the right to use SCO IP in binary format. The IP License for Linux does not grant distribution rights, nor does it grant any rights associated with source code. SCO doesn't offer a license to cure the infringement on the part of the Linux distributor because SCO's source license agreement directly conflicts with the GPL.
But they want to offer licenses to embedded OEMs. So they don't offer distribution rights, except, er, on embedded.
To paraphrase SCO: We're not breaking the GPL. Red Hat is breaking the GPL by shipping Linux (McBride in conference call). Our license does break the GPL (FAQ). Even though we're breaking the GPL, we'll license embedded OEMs (Tivo). -
Re:tell SCO where to stick their license fee
http://www.sco.com/company/feedback/index.html clickable link
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Apple is giving people what's not theirs to give
Our next lawsuit is still being prepared, but subscribers can preview it early.
No, seriously, how long until SCO puts down another lawsuit for Apple's open-sourcing code that contains SCO's "proprietary" work?
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Re:That is so cool!!!
I'm sure these people will be happy to sell you one. Or several.
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Re:Time out!Is it not possible to start a thread on any issue without including 150 posts bashing SCO?
While you do have a great point, the new SCO license does not prohibit such bashing.
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SuSE is a SCO/United Linux business partner
I find it amusing that SCO is threatening action against Linux users. This includes customers of their own business partners.
And now SuSE bites SCO?
Moreover, the legally observant will notice that SCO continues to link to SuSE (and, therefore, to "infringing code".) Does that not make them contributors to their own IP infringement, at the very least?
It certainly would be a problem if the RIAA had (intentional) links to copyrighted MP3's, right?
Check out SCO's United Linux Page
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1800 numbers cost money...Every 1800 number dialed within the USA to SCO costs them money. How about calling 1-800-726-8649 for a few minutes a few times a day if you live in the USA and listen to their on-hold music? Or set your modem to auto-dial every few minutes?
Please note the above is not a serious suggestion, Mr SCO Lawyer
;)RG
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Home users no worry -- it's official!I telephoned SCO in the UK (my local branch) yesterday. I wanted to know what I, as a personal Linux user, had to do to licence my OS or change it to avoid infringing. After a short delay I was forwarded to a lady who told me that they didn't have any information packs on infringement, but that as a personal user "I didn't have anything to worry about".
When pressed, she gave me the number of the SCO Utah office 1-801-765-4999 (as specified on the SCO web site for further information.
So everything is OK folks -- SCO can't possibly go after home Linux users without having this waved in their face. I'm quite happy to sign an affidavit about these events. I'd also suggest that any worried US/CA Linux users give SCO Utah a call and ask for information on how to avoid infringement. Better safe than sorry!
SCO: We're Not Just Evil, We're Not Even Good At Being Evil.
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Let's Put SCO Behind BarsWhile the lawsuits being defended by IBM and filed by Red Hat are likely to put an end to The SCO Group's menace to the Free Software community, I don't think simply putting the company out of business is likely to prevent us from being threatened this way again by other companies who are enemies to our community. I feel we need to send a stronger message.
If we all work together, we can put the executives of the SCO Group in prison where they belong.
If you live in the U.S., please write a letter to your state Attorney General. If you live elsewhere, please write your national or provincial law enforcement authorities. Please ask that the SCO Group be prosecuted for criminal fraud and extortion.
It makes me very sad to write this, because I lived in Santa Cruz for fifteen years. Sam Sjogren, a close friend from Caltech, was one of SCO's first programmers, and for a little while my only friend in town after I transferred to UCSC. Many of my best friends use to work for SCO either writing code or doing tech support. I even used to sit in the company hot tub with my friends who worked there from time to time.
Before I ever used Linux, I was a happy user of a fully-licensed copy of SCO Open Desktop on my 386.
You wouldn't think the SCO Group of today is the same company that once had to tell its employees that they shouldn't be naked at work between 9 and 5 because they scared the visiting suits from AT&T. That's because it's not - the SCO Group got its name and intellectual property from SCO through an acquisition. I don't think any of the friends I once knew at the company are likely to still be working there. The SCO Group is in Utah. SCO was originally called The Santa Cruz Operation, a small father-and son consulting firm named for a beautiful small town between the mountains and the ocean in central California. The Santa Cruz Operation was once as much a bunch of freethinking hippies as any Linux hacker of today.
Yes, it makes me sad. But I digress.
It seems that SCO is asking a license fee of $699 for each Linux installation. Take a look at SCO's press release announcing the licensing program. That's just the introductory price - if we don't purchase our licenses before October 15, the price will increase to $1399.
I have three computers that run Linux. That means SCO claims I must pay $2097 today, or $4197 if I wait until after October 15. SCO says their fee applies even to devices running embedded linux, many of which were purchased by their owners for far less than SCO's "license fee".
My response is that SCO is guilty of criminal fraud and extortion. I didn't violate SCO's copyright or acquire their trade secrets through any illegal means, and it is fraud for them to claim that I did. It is extortion for them to tell me I must pay them money to avoid a lawsuit.
Rather than paying their fee, my response will be to write a letter to the Maine State Attorney General to ask that they prosecute SCO. I'm going to include substantive documentation, like a hardcopy of SCO's claim that I must pay them this fee, as well as IBM's and RedHat's responses to SCO.
I'm also going to write to the Federal Trade Commission to ask that SCO be investigated for illegal trade practices.
If you live in the United States, I ask you to write a similar letter to your state Attorney General, as well as to the Federal Trade Commission. If you live in a state where a Linux distro vendor is located, or a company that has a lot of Linux installations - doesn't Amazon use it? - write to your elected representatives to ask that they work with the state and fede
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Let's Put SCO Behind BarsWhile the lawsuits being defended by IBM and filed by Red Hat are likely to put an end to The SCO Group's menace to the Free Software community, I don't think simply putting the company out of business is likely to prevent us from being threatened this way again by other companies who are enemies to our community. I feel we need to send a stronger message.
If we all work together, we can put the executives of the SCO Group in prison where they belong.
If you live in the U.S., please write a letter to your state Attorney General. If you live elsewhere, please write your national or provincial law enforcement authorities. Please ask that the SCO Group be prosecuted for criminal fraud and extortion.
It makes me very sad to write this, because I lived in Santa Cruz for fifteen years. Sam Sjogren, a close friend from Caltech, was one of SCO's first programmers, and for a little while my only friend in town after I transferred to UCSC. Many of my best friends use to work for SCO either writing code or doing tech support. I even used to sit in the company hot tub with my friends who worked there from time to time.
Before I ever used Linux, I was a happy user of a fully-licensed copy of SCO Open Desktop on my 386.
You wouldn't think the SCO Group of today is the same company that once had to tell its employees that they shouldn't be naked at work between 9 and 5 because they scared the visiting suits from AT&T. That's because it's not - the SCO Group got its name and intellectual property from SCO through an acquisition. I don't think any of the friends I once knew at the company are likely to still be working there. The SCO Group is in Utah. SCO was originally called The Santa Cruz Operation, a small father-and son consulting firm named for a beautiful small town between the mountains and the ocean in central California. The Santa Cruz Operation was once as much a bunch of freethinking hippies as any Linux hacker of today.
Yes, it makes me sad. But I digress.
It seems that SCO is asking a license fee of $699 for each Linux installation. Take a look at SCO's press release announcing the licensing program. That's just the introductory price - if we don't purchase our licenses before October 15, the price will increase to $1399.
I have three computers that run Linux. That means SCO claims I must pay $2097 today, or $4197 if I wait until after October 15. SCO says their fee applies even to devices running embedded linux, many of which were purchased by their owners for far less than SCO's "license fee".
My response is that SCO is guilty of criminal fraud and extortion. I didn't violate SCO's copyright or acquire their trade secrets through any illegal means, and it is fraud for them to claim that I did. It is extortion for them to tell me I must pay them money to avoid a lawsuit.
Rather than paying their fee, my response will be to write a letter to the Maine State Attorney General to ask that they prosecute SCO. I'm going to include substantive documentation, like a hardcopy of SCO's claim that I must pay them this fee, as well as IBM's and RedHat's responses to SCO.
I'm also going to write to the Federal Trade Commission to ask that SCO be investigated for illegal trade practices.
If you live in the United States, I ask you to write a similar letter to your state Attorney General, as well as to the Federal Trade Commission. If you live in a state where a Linux distro vendor is located, or a company that has a lot of Linux installations - doesn't Amazon use it? - write to your elected representatives to ask that they work with the state and fede
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Let's Put SCO Behind BarsWhile the lawsuits being defended by IBM and filed by Red Hat are likely to put an end to The SCO Group's menace to the Free Software community, I don't think simply putting the company out of business is likely to prevent us from being threatened this way again by other companies who are enemies to our community. I feel we need to send a stronger message.
If we all work together, we can put the executives of the SCO Group in prison where they belong.
If you live in the U.S., please write a letter to your state Attorney General. If you live elsewhere, please write your national or provincial law enforcement authorities. Please ask that the SCO Group be prosecuted for criminal fraud and extortion.
It makes me very sad to write this, because I lived in Santa Cruz for fifteen years. Sam Sjogren, a close friend from Caltech, was one of SCO's first programmers, and for a little while my only friend in town after I transferred to UCSC. Many of my best friends use to work for SCO either writing code or doing tech support. I even used to sit in the company hot tub with my friends who worked there from time to time.
Before I ever used Linux, I was a happy user of a fully-licensed copy of SCO Open Desktop on my 386.
You wouldn't think the SCO Group of today is the same company that once had to tell its employees that they shouldn't be naked at work between 9 and 5 because they scared the visiting suits from AT&T. That's because it's not - the SCO Group got its name and intellectual property from SCO through an acquisition. I don't think any of the friends I once knew at the company are likely to still be working there. The SCO Group is in Utah. SCO was originally called The Santa Cruz Operation, a small father-and son consulting firm named for a beautiful small town between the mountains and the ocean in central California. The Santa Cruz Operation was once as much a bunch of freethinking hippies as any Linux hacker of today.
Yes, it makes me sad. But I digress.
It seems that SCO is asking a license fee of $699 for each Linux installation. Take a look at SCO's press release announcing the licensing program. That's just the introductory price - if we don't purchase our licenses before October 15, the price will increase to $1399.
I have three computers that run Linux. That means SCO claims I must pay $2097 today, or $4197 if I wait until after October 15. SCO says their fee applies even to devices running embedded linux, many of which were purchased by their owners for far less than SCO's "license fee".
My response is that SCO is guilty of criminal fraud and extortion. I didn't violate SCO's copyright or acquire their trade secrets through any illegal means, and it is fraud for them to claim that I did. It is extortion for them to tell me I must pay them money to avoid a lawsuit.
Rather than paying their fee, my response will be to write a letter to the Maine State Attorney General to ask that they prosecute SCO. I'm going to include substantive documentation, like a hardcopy of SCO's claim that I must pay them this fee, as well as IBM's and RedHat's responses to SCO.
I'm also going to write to the Federal Trade Commission to ask that SCO be investigated for illegal trade practices.
If you live in the United States, I ask you to write a similar letter to your state Attorney General, as well as to the Federal Trade Commission. If you live in a state where a Linux distro vendor is located, or a company that has a lot of Linux installations - doesn't Amazon use it? - write to your elected representatives to ask that they work with the state and fede
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Re:v2.6 is safe!
Strangely enough, SCO has a link right to the GPL on their SCO source page. How could anyone get through the Preamble and not be convinced SCO's license is bogus?
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Re:v2.6 is safe!
Strangely enough, SCO has a link right to the GPL on their SCO source page. How could anyone get through the Preamble and not be convinced SCO's license is bogus?
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Re:Different Strategy, Same AcronymThink twice, because this is MS do it is the same. That is just smoking mirrors again.
Proof? They have just hired a PR firm to do the dirty work while they polish their image.
Before: "they are the cancer of IP"
Now: "they stole our IP"Same message, just better wording.
By the way, every time the OSS community reads and discuss the MS FUD of the week, that is time wasted not focusing on its own strategy. Just as the Linux desktop needs to break away from the MS path and be innovative, the community needs to stop acting as complements and substitutions of MS products but as an autonomous end-to-end solution provider.
Fight Microsoft where it hurts: ignore them.
I know it is fun to ridicule them, but they provide a cheap entertainment that is working for them the long run: we get accustomed to their style, they shape the "industry standards" at that level, and we don't get our work done. And we learn about all of their products.
Do yourself a favour, stop reading about the MS crap, there is never anything really new, and take it to the next level.
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Why not...
...send them feedback here:
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SCO adds $32 to the price...
Well, expect to pay a little more thanks to McBride and Thugs...
According to http://www.sco.com/scosource/linuxlicensefaq.html "The promotional license fee for embedded devices is $32 per device."Yet another reason SCO needs to burn...
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HP is an SCOForum sponser...
Really, check it out at:
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Re:ask the owners
a company seizes to exist
You're thinking of another company that siezes to exist. Chilliware has merely ceased to exist.
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Mein Kampf by SCO...
"Whoever said "You can't have your cake and eat it too" has never heard of the SCOx Xtreme Rewards Program.
NOT YOUR FATHER'S PARTNER PROGRAM
Does this sound attractive?
Build a successful and profitable business
Sell it
Make a lot of money
Enjoy your money!"
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can someone just make it stop spinning.
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Trying to purchase licenses from SCO
We tried to purchase the licenses we need for our offices. In order to we looked in their site anything about the possibility to buy them (online or with other methods). We didn't succeed so we posted a couple of questions to SCO online (that was possible, even if their site seems to be a little slow).
One of the requests we made:
Hello,
We would like to purchase Linux licenses for our servers.
We couldn't find a link on your home page. Is online payment possible?
Can we keep using our RedHat linux installations in the meanwhile?
Thank you.
We are now waiting for a quick answer from them (their form said You will be hearing from us soon), and very very curious about their answer. -
Thanks, but no thanks.
I'm pretty sure they won't go after the place where I get my linux code.
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Re:Too much crack!
And, according to their version of the Unix Timeline, SCO has code in there since Linux 0.01!
Maybe Linus has always been a secret agent for SCO!
The site www.sco.com is running Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6 PHP/4.3.2-RC on Linux -
More interesting info...The complaint filed by SCO. Fairly interesting in a legal sort of way. An interesting segment from the complaint...
Limitations of Linux Before IBM's Involvement
82. Linux started as a hobby project of a 19-year old student. Linux has evolved through bits and pieces of various contributions by numerous software developers using single processor computers. Virtually none of these software developers and hobbyists had access to enterprise-scale equipment and testing facilities for Linux development. Without access to such equipment, facilities, sophisticated methods, concepts and coordinated know-how, it would be difficult or impossible for the Linux development community to create a grade of Linux adequate for enterprise use.
83. As long as the Linux development process remained uncoordinated and random, it posed little or no threat to SCO, or to other UNIX vendors, for at least two major reasons: (a) Linux quality was inadequate since it was not developed and tested in coordination for enterprise use and (b) enterprise customer acceptance was non-existent because Linux was viewed by enterprise customers as a "fringe" software product.
84. Prior to IBM's involvement, Linux was the software equivalent of a bicycle. UNIX was the software equivalent of a luxury car. To make Linux of necessary quality for use by enterprise customers, it must be re-designed so that Linux also becomes the software equivalent of a luxury car. This re-design is not technologically feasible or even possible at the enterprise level without (1) a high degree of design coordination, (2) access to expensive and sophisticated design and testing equipment; (3) access to UNIX code, methods and concepts; (4) UNIX architectural experience; and (5) a very significant financial investment.
85. For example, Linux is currently capable of coordinating the simultaneous performance of 4 computer processors. UNIX, on the other hand, commonly links 16 processors and can successfully link up to 32 processors for simultaneous operation. This difference in memory management performance is very significant to enterprise customers who need extremely high computing capabilities for complex tasks. The ability to accomplish this task successfully has taken AT&T, Novell and SCO at least 20 years, with access to expensive equipment for design and testing, well-trained UNIX engineers and a wealth of experience in UNIX methods and concepts.
86. It is not possible for Linux to rapidly reach UNIX performance standards for complete enterprise functionality without the misappropriation of UNIX code, methods or concepts to achieve such performance, and coordination by a larger developer, such as IBM. -
Re:Too much crack!
Think about it. XP for 1 CPU license? $199 Guess SCO doesn't believe in linux for the desktop...
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Re:Business Tactics
By charging $600 they make it seem like "stealing" linux is a really serious offense.
The thing is, how can they possibly claim this, when they're giving it away for free?!?!
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Actually just $199...
For a single user desktop system, anyway. Not that that is really any better.
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Gotta give them credit
They actually believe this'll work.
The only advertised job opening from SCOX: Senior Sales Account Manager -
Kernel still on SCO's FTP
So whats that?
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Interesting analysis from Gartner...
I was just looking around, found this on the SCO website. Seems like kind of a strange document for them to put up, especially when you look at the second to last paragraph, where it says
"SCO has yet to provide Gartner with specific details of stolen or misappropriated intellectual property. In Gartner's opinion, SCO's claim that IBM misappropriated trade secrets from AIX will be difficult to prove, because an enterprise OS consists of many components, including high-availability features, diagnostics, security, kernel hardening, scheduling and queue management."
Though it does go on to say, "However, one thing is certain: The community process is fraught with risk to users. How well does the open-source community examine its code and weed out potentially misappropriated intellectual property?"
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Re:Too much crack!
with 1 CPU $699
Yeah, I don't like that licensing scheme. I like their other one much better. You see, it's this new thing called the GPL. I know you're all skeptical, but it's really a cool license, and the price is much better. SCO may try to hold you to those terms and make you give out modifications that you make to anyone that you give binaries to, though so be careful! ;-) -
The Appropriate Response...in song
I believe my thoughts are best described by the closing lyrics to the Rolling Stones' "You can't Always Get what you want":
I saw her today at the reception
In her glass was a bleeding man
She was practised at the art of deception,
I could tell by her blood-stained hands
And you can't always get what you want, honey
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want,
But if you try sometime, yeah,
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Re:Too much crack!
That's server licensing. Client (Desktop) licensing is more reasonable.
What is the cost of the License?
The promotional fee for the client (desktop) license is $199.
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FAQSCO has a FAQ on their website. There are also several other pages on the Linux licensing.
There are a lot of weird answers in the FAQ. One is a statement about not offering the license to Linux distro vendors, because that would conflict with the GPL. Also of note is that Caldera/SCO Linux users need to register for a license. It doesn't say if it's free for them or not. Embedded devices can be registered for $32, but it never says what constitutes and embedded device.
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FAQSCO has a FAQ on their website. There are also several other pages on the Linux licensing.
There are a lot of weird answers in the FAQ. One is a statement about not offering the license to Linux distro vendors, because that would conflict with the GPL. Also of note is that Caldera/SCO Linux users need to register for a license. It doesn't say if it's free for them or not. Embedded devices can be registered for $32, but it never says what constitutes and embedded device.
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SCO's SEC Filings
The scoop on who at the company is selling their stock can be found here in SCO's SEC filings. It appears that some of the chief people in charge are dumping thousands of shares of stock.
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Re:I got my license for freeIt appears that they finally realized that they were distributing two conflicting licenses - log in and they welcome you -
Welcome to SCO's FTP Site!
- and then immediately close the connection.
It's not very nice of them. But I suppose that I don't deserve them being nice to me - I'm infringing their IP...
"All distributions of Linux 2.4 and later versions of the kernel contain major infringments, regardless of whether Linux is being used in a commercial or non-commercial environment." - Their FAQ
It's funny to read the "Excerpts from Complaint." Apparently, IBM working to make Linux better - whether contributing "illegal" IP or not - is part of their suit. It makes me sick. -
Re:Oh, sure, hang on just a second...
I should have put this in the first one, but just FYI, here's a link to SCO's contact information:
http://www.sco.com/company/feedback/index.html
Let's call them, fax them, email them, etc, and demand that they call off their lawsuit immediately. If anything, let's demand that they tell us the exact line numbers and the exact kernel version where we can find the disputed code. Tell them you're Emiliano Zapata, a Linux developer from Mexico City if you need to.
This is always a good beginning tactic for pressuring corporations that behave badly. It's perfectly legal, and totally within our rights to lobby corporations just as much as they lobby the government.
Dominion -
SCO Contact Us link
Just in case anyone wants to contact SCO... Click here!
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SCO's feedback page
Write them a nice little message
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Binary Only; Souce code is even more!
The $699 cost is only for binary releases of Linux. If you want to 'properly' license the source code (and most distributions carry the source code) then the cost is even more.
From the IP License for Linux FAQ:
"This license only applies to the use of SCO IP in these compiled and linked object code versions of Linux. The license does not grant any rights to SCO IP in source code form either separately or as a component of a Linux source code distribution." -
ehm, yes terribly sorry
Shamelesly reposting the same thing to another thread, but this is what their linux license faq states:
the distribution of an in house customized Linux OS to internal data centers, what is the value of correcting the infringement on the part of my end users when my company as a whole is still infringing SCO's intellectual property? What should I do?
Consider migrating from an in house customized version of Linux to a shrink wrap, off the shelf version of Linux or to an alternative operating system. If you are unable to migrate, consider outsourcing the development of the customized Linux distribution. SCO understands that these options are very constraining and is investigating alternative that both protect its intellectual property and are less burdensome for end users.
So in other words, if you bought, or have a redistributed version of linux then you're already in the clear...even though the faq states quite clearly that EVERY LINUX USER need their license.... I mean, am I reading this wrong or can't these guys get their faqs straight? -
We need more protest!
Has anyone been organizing protest for the SCO forum 2003?
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I got my license for free
SCO licensed me all their IPs for free. Sure, they are willing to license them to you for $699 but why not just accept their free offer? Go here and download the linux kernel and rest easy. It's not like SCO is unaware they are still willing to license the kernel under the GPL, I told them a couple of weeks back.
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Disruption of event
First, I hope that this is a total flop for SCO,
second, I think every Linux user for 500 miles around should crash this party and give these bastards HELL.
Here's how to do it properly.
Dress like everyone else. Blend in.
Seperate. Don't go in in pairs or teams.
Don't acknowledge one another. Don't tip off security to your compatriots.
Don't carry signs that they can spot, if you must, hide it until you deploy it.
Don't all jump up and harrass the speakers at the same time. Just disrupt the speakers with very brief, abrupt events, like lots of loud coughing, snippy comments, whatever. But S-P-R-E-A-D it out so as to disrupt the entire event to the point of it being a waste of their time and money. Make the event a non event for SCO..
Bottom line, fuck SCO...
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Interesting
Got this off the CSO linux license faq...wich along with other CSO faqs is a funny thing to read in it's own right
:-)
If SCO doesn't offer a license that would permit the distribution of an in house customized Linux OS to internal data centers, what is the value of correcting the infringement on the part of my end users when my company as a whole is still infringing SCO's intellectual property? What should I do?
Consider migrating from an in house customized version of Linux to a shrink wrap, off the shelf version of Linux or to an alternative operating system. If you are unable to migrate, consider outsourcing the development of the customized Linux distribution. SCO understands that these options are very constraining and is investigating alternative that both protect its intellectual property and are less burdensome for end users.
So in other words, if you bought, or got a redistributed version of linux then you're already in the clear...even though the faq states quite clearly that EVERY LINUX USER need their license....
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From SCO's web site:See http://www.sco.com/products/server/datasheet.html
: "Linux 2.4 Kernel - The new Linux 2.4 kernel is a key component of the OpenLinux Server product. The Linux 2.4 kernel provides significantly improved hardware support for new hardware devices, improved SMP scalability, larger memory support (up to 64 GB of RAM), faster I/O performance, and many other performance boosting enhancements."
It's too bad SCO has already distributed Linux 2.4.x under the GPL. Thanks, SCO, for delegitimizing your own claims.
They even specifically mention SMP improvements. Isn't their claim to copyright infringement against Linux 2.4's SMP code? So they can jump on the Linux bandwagon, say, "Hey, we've got improved SMP scalability, and we're distributing it under the GPL (because we have to)!", then jump off when their business fails and sue everybody for code they themselves distributed under the GPL?
I browsed through their RPM archives on their FTP. They've removed all the kernel RPMs and SRPMs. Oh well.
Fuck SCO. I hope they crash and burn.
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Re:Isn't It Ironic?
How is it ironic? They sell linux.