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Microsoft put little more than a CDDB lookup into their player.
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Re:Isnt this plan an impossible boondoggle?I believe that what they are talking about is the backbone, the top of the "upstream" as it were. The only problem with this is that the people that they want to watch could get arount this in quite a variety of ways. The encryption is only one. If I were them, I'd set up some relays over old POT(s) lines similar as to what was done in the BBS days.
And as far as the "Keeping your eggs in one basket" thing, that's been done, from the inside yet.
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802.11 is brokenI just got my Linksys wireless bridge and AP over Christmas because I got sick of tripping over all the wires in my apartment.
After I bought it and plugged it in, and I sat down and read up on security, and I was simply shocked at how the Linksys equipment have completely zero security.
The most you can do to protect yourself is:
1) disable SSID broadcasts
2) filter based on MAC addresses
3) use 128 bit WEP to obfuscate your data to only the casual
Of course, WEP can be broken by any hacker worth his-or-her salt, and filtering based on MAC addresses doesn't work because you can spoof MAC addresses. There is zero security from a determined hacker.
The Linksys APs also have a severe security issue where anyone can get the ssid through a simple udp broadcast, meaning they don't even need a valid IP address. Once they get your SSID, it makes it way easier to connect to the AP.
From what I've heard, Linksys even isn't doing anything about it.
It really seems as though 802.11X is going to only find a place at home where consumers care more about getting rid of wires than about security. There is no valid reason for a business or governments, where their information is worth much much more, to be using such a security-free mechanism.
I'm okay because I needed the wireless stuff for my gf's computer, and all she does is surf the web. I put in place a FreeBSD firewall just in case, so I'm not too worried about my neighbors or wardrivers getting connected. But for those people that don't care about security, this is probably the way that untraceable hacking in the 21st is going to go through - via some idiot that left his 802.11b connection open to hackers that live across the street, or just happened to pull by in their car to try and hack into some military site, etc.
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Re:Spyware, modified EULAs et alIf you've been agreeing with them to date you're already OK with the idea that the software could wipe your system and electrocute your dog without setting Microsoft back more than $5, so I don't know what else you want.
As to spyware, it's not exactly like any software house has to be complicit to get it on your system if you use the Internet and download programs. Read here for details.
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Certificate Chain Vulnerability
This is what makes the Microsoft certificate chain vulnerability and SSLSniff particularly dangerous.
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Re:Sniff SSL Connections?!?
You're assuming that your browser is immune to man in the middle attacks. It may not be.
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Good Security
It's nice to see that the computing industry as a whole is following Micro$oft's example and taking security "so seriously".
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SecFocus.com Link
Linked to here: Gov't Rests Case Against Russian SW Co.
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Re:You know... this brings up a question....
You could start by subscribing to the forensics mailing list over at securityfocus.com. The honeypots list is also of interest.
Both lists have a fairly good signal-to-noise ratio, and there is a lot of good info to be had.
If nothing else, it's certainly a good place to ask that exact question.
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Re:Privacy
No, the phone itself does not have a MAC address, in fact, it doesn't even have an IP stack. That is all managed upstream in the providers network. In GPRS that is done by devices called SGSNs and GGSNs, though I'm not sure about how EDGE and UMTS will handle it. Although, it does act like an "always on" connection. Interesting article here about how T-Mobile is dealing with the issue (or not).
As for figuring out where you are, providers have always known where you are to some extent based on the which tower you are registered to. They must store this to bill you effectively. The only difference with the new location based services (on the phone via GPS or on the network via triangulation) is how acurate they are and who this information gets shared with. It may be with your local 911, or with a friend. -
Re:Differences from previous releases?
depends - what version are you running now?
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So many tools - so little time!Security Focus Tools List
"Intrusion Detection" has over 50 systems. I use Claymore (utterly simply, has saved my arse completely on one occasion).
Tripwire has mindshare - not much else it seems.
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Yet another one...It's worthwile mentioning that this class of exploits has many instances, and that apparently, the security model of IE is designed in a way that makes it very hard to fix them.
Here's yet another one published, and here's David Ahmad's response in light of these recenty discussions.
What I don't understand in this whole mess: when I hear "execute arbitrary code", I know something's horribly broken. Why is it worse if someone exemplifies "arbitray code" with "format a:
/autotest" (in the ZDnet forum, reposted to BugTraq here) instead of "winmine" (as in Sandblad's original advisory)? The important bit is "arbitrary code", no? -
Yet another one...It's worthwile mentioning that this class of exploits has many instances, and that apparently, the security model of IE is designed in a way that makes it very hard to fix them.
Here's yet another one published, and here's David Ahmad's response in light of these recenty discussions.
What I don't understand in this whole mess: when I hear "execute arbitrary code", I know something's horribly broken. Why is it worse if someone exemplifies "arbitray code" with "format a:
/autotest" (in the ZDnet forum, reposted to BugTraq here) instead of "winmine" (as in Sandblad's original advisory)? The important bit is "arbitrary code", no? -
Yet another one...It's worthwile mentioning that this class of exploits has many instances, and that apparently, the security model of IE is designed in a way that makes it very hard to fix them.
Here's yet another one published, and here's David Ahmad's response in light of these recenty discussions.
What I don't understand in this whole mess: when I hear "execute arbitrary code", I know something's horribly broken. Why is it worse if someone exemplifies "arbitray code" with "format a:
/autotest" (in the ZDnet forum, reposted to BugTraq here) instead of "winmine" (as in Sandblad's original advisory)? The important bit is "arbitrary code", no? -
Yet another one...It's worthwile mentioning that this class of exploits has many instances, and that apparently, the security model of IE is designed in a way that makes it very hard to fix them.
Here's yet another one published, and here's David Ahmad's response in light of these recenty discussions.
What I don't understand in this whole mess: when I hear "execute arbitrary code", I know something's horribly broken. Why is it worse if someone exemplifies "arbitray code" with "format a:
/autotest" (in the ZDnet forum, reposted to BugTraq here) instead of "winmine" (as in Sandblad's original advisory)? The important bit is "arbitrary code", no? -
Re:Know the code, avoid the code?
The point is that even full disclosure only requires 'proof of concept' malicious code. There is no benefit on going the last step and widely circulating examples of code that actually f***s your hard disk.
The page with the code example linked from the Wired article is completely benign; the worst it does is write a text file to your C: drive. Someone would have to know more about IE tricks in order to turn it into something malicious. -
Fight javascript with javascript
After reading the proof-of-concept script at http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/1/298748, I now know at least to avoid blind links.
Also, I've come up with this possible solution:
In IE, bring the potentially malicious page to the front, then press Ctrl-O to get the Open prompt. Enter this:
javascript:void(location.replace=null)
then click OK. Now anytime that a javascript on that page tries to do a location.replace command will now instead issue a null command (no command at all). (Assuming the script hasn't already been activated, under an onLoad event or something)
This works with annoying exit pop-up ads too:
javascript:void(window.onunload=null);
You can do this with all sorts of javascript commands that get abused. Find some offensive pages, look at their source, and disable the commands you see used often. (onunload is probably the worst and most often used).
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He Gave Them a Month
If you read Sandblad's actual BugTraq posting you will see that he had notified Microsoft more than a month before posting the details of the exploit. Quoting:
Microsoft was initially contacted 2002-10-04. After several mail exchanges, their final response were that the technique used to run programs with parameters from the "Local computer zone" was no security vulnerability. A fix should instead be applied for all possibilities for content in the "Internet zone" to access the "Local computer zone".
How much time does a company have to actually fix a problem this serious? When somebody takes the trouble to notify a company about a defect, they've already demonstrated helpfulness and responsibility. It would make sense for the company to take that helpful, responsible person into the loop, and at least update them periodically about what is being done about the problem. That would give a helpful person like Sandblad a basis for continuing to wait. In this case Microsoft gave no indication that they were doing anything about the problem or intended to do anything about it. Continuing to sit on the information certainly wouldn't give them any further incentive. Sandblad reported this problem, got a thanks-but-no-thanks, then after a month of no news went over their heads to the public. I would say he handled it very responsibly. -
the security hole is known for two weeks 6-11
In germany Heise.de even published an exploit:
C't Browsercheck
You can test your IE and report the results to your boss.
See also:
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Re:Yay, verily
Parent's comments are stolen from SecurityFocus: Computer Break-Ins: Your Right to Know
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Re:Yay, verily
This is taken right from SecurityFocus: Computer Break-Ins: Your Right to Know
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Re:Yay, verily
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Recent incidents that I know of
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fragroute, dsniff, fragrouter
BitchX
This message says Recently there have been a spat of well publicized attacks against what I would consider to be the backbone of the open source movement - it's source code distribution system. Hackers have been penetrating people who download, say, OpenSSH and then compile it to use on their systems by trojaning OpenSSH itself. This strikes at the very HEART of Open Source by making the act of installing the software a weakness. Because Open Source has no one distribution point, there are many places for someone to verify if they want to install software securely. Because there are no vendors, the sites people download software from are usually not provided with a dedicated security staff.
This is serious, guys and gals. Use the source, Luke - but what if I can't trust the source any more? Open Source has to find a method to get around this problem; see this post.
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Re:How is this unfortunate?
Not exactly. The question was more complicated than "how do I make sure no one can decrypt a datastream on my wireless network?" It was how to make sure no unauthorized user is connected. This is much more difficult.
A similar question spawned a thread on security focus' vuln-dev mailing list a couple of weeks ago. Good read. -
Re:Why don't you just get a REAL server OS...
yep. definitely a much safer, and more secure choice.
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That's quite simple
Just a few points here: - I don't think there's a conspiracy here. J is moving and that's it. ICANN does not have to go "stop the presses! J ROOT SERVER is moving". They just have to release the new hints file. There's no need to panic, as someone posted before. - The 13 root servers were attacked, A (hosted by Verisign at undisclosed location ) survived the attack and J didn't. Why not move J to a safer place? - Improving the security of the root servers is a *good* thing, not a bad one. The root servers network is a sensitive one, and everything done there must be done very carefully, especially after the DDoS. - Go get some sleep, the root servers around the world will grant you the right to translate IP addresses
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Her site is bustedI just tried to send her this but couldn't. Yay, using Slash as a stand in for participatory democracy:
As a technology professional and, based on someone who I think would agree with most of your political stances (that is, I'm want to be nice about this), please have your website amended by a qualified professional. The form used to send this message has a couple of problems that really ought to be addressed:
- There is no good reason for a web form such as this to force visitors to use a particular kind of browser software to access it. In spite of the recent court decision t hat would suggest otherwise, Microsoft has been tried & convicted as an abusive monopolist, and if visitors take the initiative to use alternative software they should be applauded, not excluded. Keeping out users based on their commercial choices seems very anti-democratic to me.
- Skimming the HTML source of this form, I note that it includes hidden fields for "mailto" and "url". That is a very bad sign, because there are well known security problems with certain freely available web form processing programs that are widely used on the web today, and one of the signatures of these dangerously broken programs is that they allow users to set fields like this. The reason that is a problem is that it allows a malicious user to send false data to your program, and by so doing hijack it & do anything from send out spam mail to carry out certain forms of identify theft or defamation of character. Rather than allowing the user to set this data in the web form, you would be much better off by moving that data into your server script instead. Your tech staff will hopefully know how to do this; if not I would be happy to answer any questions. To give a couple of reference URLs, I offer:
- http://www.securityfocus.com/corporate/research/t
o p10attacks_q1_2002.shtml - http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/faq_nms.html#But%2
0 there%20are%20perfectly%20good%20programs%20alread y%20out%20there%2C%20why%20bother%3F - http://www.scriptarchive.com/nms.html
- http://www.google.com/search?q=formmail+security+
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Thank you for your attention, and for God's sake keep voting against Bush's war against Iraq. I'm sure history will prove that you were right to oppose this. Your speech against it, at http://www.house.gov/tubbsjones/pr021009.htm, was wonderful. Thank you.
Hey, it got written up, it might as well get posted somewhere. Maybe her staff will decide to start reading Slashdot today...
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Re:Old News (proof)
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Bugs mostly fixed
The vulnerabilities listed are all already fixed in mozilla 1.01 and 1.1, except for the potential privacy violation in onUnload (bugzilla). That one's hardly terrible - it's possible to add javascript to your website so that you can tell which url the user went to when he leaves your site. Pretty minor given that a) it just tells the "attacker" which of his links you clicked and b) a lot of sites already achieve the same effect using links to redirect scripts instead of direct links.
This whole thing is really overblown. The issue the register picks on as the most important - the https-http-https redirect warning thing - is actually the least important. They talk about the importance of HTTPS for ecommerce but they don't seem to understand what the real security issues here (Oh my god, a malicious website can confuse me about whether my connection to it is encrypted! Doom! We're all doomed!).
Most of those bugtraq/securityfocus listings are from a list of fixed security bugs that the mozilla people fixed and listed in bugzilla that were posted to bugtraq. It doesn't help anyone improve security if your reward for being open is a scaremongering article that says your product is "riddled with security holes". It's an easy way for The Register to get hits knocking mozilla with most of their work already done for them - by the mozilla developers.
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Bugs mostly fixed
The vulnerabilities listed are all already fixed in mozilla 1.01 and 1.1, except for the potential privacy violation in onUnload (bugzilla). That one's hardly terrible - it's possible to add javascript to your website so that you can tell which url the user went to when he leaves your site. Pretty minor given that a) it just tells the "attacker" which of his links you clicked and b) a lot of sites already achieve the same effect using links to redirect scripts instead of direct links.
This whole thing is really overblown. The issue the register picks on as the most important - the https-http-https redirect warning thing - is actually the least important. They talk about the importance of HTTPS for ecommerce but they don't seem to understand what the real security issues here (Oh my god, a malicious website can confuse me about whether my connection to it is encrypted! Doom! We're all doomed!).
Most of those bugtraq/securityfocus listings are from a list of fixed security bugs that the mozilla people fixed and listed in bugzilla that were posted to bugtraq. It doesn't help anyone improve security if your reward for being open is a scaremongering article that says your product is "riddled with security holes". It's an easy way for The Register to get hits knocking mozilla with most of their work already done for them - by the mozilla developers.
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AD and Unix integration
A disclaimer first: I haven't tried to do this on MacOS X, but just did the same for Linux; you can do it on any unix that supports PAM for authentication.
It is certainly possible, however I wouldn't call this integration a "seemless" one (I didn't use samba for that).
You can extend AD schema to support unix by using AD4Unix package.
After that you need to install nss_ldap and pam_ldap. A good starting point on how to configure these two can be found at Security Focus. You may want to use Kerberos for authentication, as pam_ldap transmits username and password over the network (although with SSL support this data will be encrypted).
Hope this helps,
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try a link
just use:
<a href="http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/82/1 73944">http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/82/ 173944</a>
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try a link
just use:
<a href="http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/82/1 73944">http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/82/ 173944</a>
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See commenting article at online.securityfocus.com
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Re:is this for real
Idiot, it's been on bugtraq for days now... http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/1/296819.
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Re:One critical
Sure, do an AXFR (A-record transfer) with DiG on a root server. Of course, you have to be a priviledged user--AXFR requires full-duplex TCP instead of an ordinary UDP connection, so unfortunately *.root-servers.net and *.gtld-servers.net don't allow transfers. Yet some of the international country-code TLDs (ccTLDs) allow AXFR transfers; if you wanna host
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Re:good idea
Umm, nope, I would challenge that point. VBS and other scripting stuff is turned off by default. I've never heard of a buffer overflow exploit in OL, but if you have an example somewhere I'd love to read about it. (in other words, I'm not claiming it doesn't exist.)
Well, take for instance the vcard Buffer Overflow vulnerability that was unique to Outlook 2000.
The long GMT date field bug bug caused a buffer overflow which allowed running arbitrary code in all versions of Outlook, as well as in some versions of Outlook Express.
Seeing as Outlook uses Internet Explorer to display HTML content, just like Outlook Express does, it inherits IE's flaws as well, as was demonstrated in the Buffer Overrun in HTML Directive flaw.
As for VB scripting being turned off by default now, that may be the case with Outlook XP (2002) or 2000 with all security patches applied, but I can assure that wasn't the case back in 2001 when the Anna Kournikova Worm and other similar exploits scourged through the Outlook community. -
Re:good idea
Umm, nope, I would challenge that point. VBS and other scripting stuff is turned off by default. I've never heard of a buffer overflow exploit in OL, but if you have an example somewhere I'd love to read about it. (in other words, I'm not claiming it doesn't exist.)
Well, take for instance the vcard Buffer Overflow vulnerability that was unique to Outlook 2000.
The long GMT date field bug bug caused a buffer overflow which allowed running arbitrary code in all versions of Outlook, as well as in some versions of Outlook Express.
Seeing as Outlook uses Internet Explorer to display HTML content, just like Outlook Express does, it inherits IE's flaws as well, as was demonstrated in the Buffer Overrun in HTML Directive flaw.
As for VB scripting being turned off by default now, that may be the case with Outlook XP (2002) or 2000 with all security patches applied, but I can assure that wasn't the case back in 2001 when the Anna Kournikova Worm and other similar exploits scourged through the Outlook community. -
Re:Does anyone here actually understand TCP/IP?
Please see this post and other related posts in this mailing list for details about what exactly is being observed.
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A Recent Microsoft Bug - swept under the carpet?
How many bugs for Windows have been swept under the rug?
It amazes me. Really. Authors bandy about Slapper and its varients as a new kind of Linux boogyman (despite the existance of previous Unix and Linux worms) - proof that the argument for Linux, and perhapse even Unix, security is falling apart. Yet there is no talk of actual numbers in the wild. No talk about how long the actual window of vulnerability from discovery to patch existed.
Meanwhile... my organization's main VPN service (running a Microsoft PPTP server... unfortunately) has been vulnerable to a DoS, and possibly a remote compromise since at LEAST Sep 26. Exploit code that demonstrates this vulnerability was released shortly after (I believe Oct 1). Yet there has yet to be any word from Microsoft acknowleging the issue, much less any forthcoming fix/patch.
Microsoft PPTP servers - Win2k, WinXP, AND WinNT 4.0 sp6a (I have personally tested Win2K and WinNT varients) are all susceptible to this exploit as demonstrated by this code - and have been for over 2 weeks.
Sure. Sticking a Sun box, or Linux, or even OpenBSD in your server room doesn't give you instant security. Unix is not a fire-and-forget solution. But these folks have been in the trenches, successfully dealing with the technical issues of security for the last couple decades.
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A Recent Microsoft Bug - swept under the carpet?
How many bugs for Windows have been swept under the rug?
It amazes me. Really. Authors bandy about Slapper and its varients as a new kind of Linux boogyman (despite the existance of previous Unix and Linux worms) - proof that the argument for Linux, and perhapse even Unix, security is falling apart. Yet there is no talk of actual numbers in the wild. No talk about how long the actual window of vulnerability from discovery to patch existed.
Meanwhile... my organization's main VPN service (running a Microsoft PPTP server... unfortunately) has been vulnerable to a DoS, and possibly a remote compromise since at LEAST Sep 26. Exploit code that demonstrates this vulnerability was released shortly after (I believe Oct 1). Yet there has yet to be any word from Microsoft acknowleging the issue, much less any forthcoming fix/patch.
Microsoft PPTP servers - Win2k, WinXP, AND WinNT 4.0 sp6a (I have personally tested Win2K and WinNT varients) are all susceptible to this exploit as demonstrated by this code - and have been for over 2 weeks.
Sure. Sticking a Sun box, or Linux, or even OpenBSD in your server room doesn't give you instant security. Unix is not a fire-and-forget solution. But these folks have been in the trenches, successfully dealing with the technical issues of security for the last couple decades.
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Red Herring, and LIESThe man is a disingenous fraud, a good politician, and an incompetant in the fields of security and intelligence.
Freeh needs to find a whipping boy for the failures of correlating the various peices intelligence datum, which occurred on his watch. Restricting legal access to crypto will only assist in the illicit observation of constitutionally protected speech by private individuals, and destroy what little competitive advantage is enjoyed by U.S. software industries over their counterparts in Israel and India.
The algorithms and the source will not go "back in the can."
Louis Freeh is responsible, in a large part, for the biggest intelligence failure in modern recollection. None of the failure in this effort was for lack of access to encrypted communications, but from standard failures of organization and communications within the concerned agencies.
The Heritage Foundation - not normally critical of the FBI's mission - has this to say:
But what if FBI intelligence fails to collect, analyze and share this information? This could happen, the commission found, because "the guidelines under which FBI agents operate
Encryption wasn't used in this instance. No evidence for it has ever been found. Freeh has a broader, more insidious agenda here, involving free speech and civil liberties. Unfortunately, the record shows that deep, analytical thinking about these issues is outside the grasp of the majority of America's elected representatives. ... are badly written and confusing. These are guidelines that set out the terms under which the FBI can open a preliminary inquiry against somebody who may be suspected of being a terrorist. All of us read them (they run to about 42 pages) and we had a number of current and former FBI agents testify that they found them confusing."The commission recommended that then Attorney General Janet Reno and former FBI Director Louis Freeh rewrite the guidelines into "more easily understood English."
Moreover, the FBI had no procedure for disseminating useful information for analysis within the agency or sharing it with other government agencies.
Information which was obtained, in Los Angeles, for example, but did not immediately apply to the case at hand, would simply not leave the regional office, even though it might provide important clues for another investigation, says Ambassador L. Paul Bremer, Ambassador at Large for Counterintelligence during the Reagan Administration and former Managing Director of Kissinger Associates.
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Re:Take it easy..it's not as bad as it sounds
Thank you! A voice of reason!
My own concern is not how GOL will be used by government (spelled out by the Privacy Act), but the potential for abuse by third parties. PKI systems are no panacea, but done right, offer assurances at least as good as what we currently have. I say bravo for my government taking this bold step.
I'm off to get mine right now - I'm keen to see what kind of certificate I'll be issued
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pam/nss_ldap from padl.com
I'm not too familiar with VMS, but Linux can and IRIX might (not support is mentioned for it) be able to use the pam_ldap/nss_ldap modules from padl.com to authenticate against Active Directory. IIRC, this requires SFU, but I could be wrong. There is a document about it in the tarball for nss_ldap.
Here's some links to Linux/AD integration from padl.com's doc section:
Active Directory and Linux
Linux-AD Integration
Active Directory and nss_ldap
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Re:Must start to do back-traces
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Re:Must start to do back-traces
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Re:FunnyYou apparently don't read Slashdot enough if you think they don't cover Linux worms in some attempt to make Linux look more secure than it is.
You apparently don't understand the term "security through obscurity". There have been dozens of Linux and thrid party vulnerabilities that are mentioned in passing is Slashback or delegated to one of the topic sections without making it to the front page. Off the top of my head, here's one. It doesn't matter if it's Slashcode or Apache or SSH. It's always "HEY, ANOTHER IE SECURITY HOLE!!!1!!" and 'obythewaytheresanewsshexploitkthx'
If you want to be on top of security issues, follow SecurityFocus, not Slashdot.
When one of these finally makes it to the front page, it's filled with "No, it's Symantec's fault" and "fuck Micro$oft" posts instead of recognizing the problems for what they are - plain and simple software bugs. It happens to the best of us.
Apache is far more secure than IIS and Pine is more secure than Outlook. No one is trying to deny or contest that, au contraire. But I'll be fucked if I understand why Slashdot does this sort of thing. Maybe you can explain it to us.
Funny that pretty much any "bash slashdot" post can get modded up, even if it is completely (and provably) false.
Funny that pretty much any misguided and FUD-ish post attempting to defend Slashdot from something it is clearly guilty of gets modded up.
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Re:Just exploit the IE SSL bug
Who sells key pairs...
Verisign.
...and how do you make the certificate show that it was verified with the intention of accting as a CA?You don't make the certificate show that, but IE doesn't check correctly. That's the point.
I have a horrible feeling this is a +5 troll... anyone got a link to prove me wrong?
Yes, this explains in more detail.
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MSNBC uses Cookie Exploits so stop linking to them
You see that msnbc link ? seems innocent huh
when you click it though you are actually sent to msn in order to transfer your cookie from any of msn's domains which includes hotmail (any of the *.msn.com domains) in order to track you personally (if you use hotmail notice hm is actually a subdomain of msn)
so while you click on the story link of
www.msnbc.com/news/814100.asp&0dm=-23ET [msnbc.com]
you are actually sent to here
http://msid.msn.com/mps_id_sharing/redirect.asp?ww w.msnbc.com/news/create_p1.asp?URL=www.msnbc.com/n ews/814100.asp&0dm=-23ET
why ? so they can steal your hotmail/msn cookie and transfer it to the msnbc domain and track you across any of microsofts domains (hence the msid = microsoft id or guid), this gets round all browser cookie privacy limitations that browser manufacturers (including mozilla/msie/ns) implementation so websites cannot read cookies from other domains and is a blatent privacy breach,
whats happening is msid server is reading your cookie and passing it to the create_p1.asp page via a GET which then creates a new cookie with your old cookie values then finally redirects you to the story complete with transfered cookies contents, clever but not clever enough for those that spot it
of course all this cookie sharing happens in the blink of an eye so the average user doesnt see it (dont believe me look at the 302 redirect headers sent when you click the msnbc link) and has no idea they have actually visited msn.com in order to steal their msn cookie
more information about this exploit can be found here
http://www.pc-help.org/privacy/ms_guid.htm
http://online.securityfocus.com/news/83
i really wish that the /. would not link to msnbc stories as every reader is being exposed to this no matter what browser they use
of course if you block msid.msn you cannot access the msnbc site , basically if you wont let msn track you they wont let you in the site
yeah im anon cos who iam doesnt matter