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Re:Just how bad
A few weeks ago I used sed to search and replace some words in almost one million files. It took about 40 minutes to do a search and replace on that many files. I don't even know of a windows tool off hand that would let me do that.
SlickEdit will, for future reference!
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PHP needs stats functions
I worked on a project several years ago that had a lot of statistical calculations (standard deviation, correlation, distributions, etc.) and was surprised to find that PHP doesn't offer these functions so I had to write my own PHP code to calculate this stuff. I was thinking that implementing an optimized library of various commonly used stats functions would be something that might fit your skill set well. PHP is written in C (and possibly some C++ but I'm not sure). I am re-learning my long lost C chops at the moment in order to contribute to AMFEXT:
http://pecl.php.net/package/amfextAMFEXT is an extension to PHP and can either be compiled into the PHP executable itself or compiled as a shared object -- a separate file. This extension structure makes it pretty easy to expand PHP because your extension is entirely optional for folks building PHP so it would not be critical to write perfect code right away. In order to get started developing such an extension, there are a variety of tricks to get oriented.
One is to read the pecl-dev mailing list:
http://news.php.net/php.pecl.devAnother is to read some tutorials. This one is pretty good:
http://devzone.zend.com/article/1021Here's a quick start guide describing how to make your own 'hello world' extension:
http://blog.slickedit.com/2007/09/creating-a-php-5-extension-with-visual-c-2005/You don't need permission to download the source and compile it yourself and start building your own extension. If you want it to be included in the PECL repository, you just have to join the mailing list and submit your extension for the other contributors to see. They'll let you know what further steps to take.
I could also use some help with my open source project:
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Re:Expensive cake, but you can eat it
Great piece of software. But yes, quite expensive cake. http://www.slickedit.com/
You aren't kidding. $300 for a code editor? What features could this thing have that could possibly be worth that much money?! I read some of the "cool features" like: code navigation, syntax completion, and auto-completions. There are lots of IDEs and editors that are free that have these very same features, so I am at a loss as to why anyone would choose to spend hundreds of dollars for this.
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Re:Expensive cake, but you can eat it
Buy a copy of Visual Slick Edit for Linux.
Great piece of software. But yes, quite expensive cake. http://www.slickedit.com/
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Slickedit
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Just give it a shot.
Some people tend to get religious when it comes to text editors (emacs. vs. vi, etc), so I'll just say this: TextMate is still young (it's v 1.5.5 for now), but already good enough to be honored in "editor hall of fame". And I have used enough number of editors for past 20 years including alpha, brief, vim, bbedit, visual studio, codewarrior, ultraedit, slickedit....
Intro to TextMate (check out the videos) Take a look at the commants on "alternatives of TextMate" -
Re:What is ir again?
But on Windows, there's nothing I've found close enough to it.
Of course there is, it's called Visual SlickEdit.
It will set you back north of $250 for a single-user license, but then if you're a developer it will probably pay for itself inside of three months.
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Re:CRN drives sales!
"Also note the amazing lack of Open Source products on that list"
Two of the products on the list run Linux ... isn't that open source?
The Lenevo laptop got a mention as a runner up. Heck if I'll be able to find OSS drivers for 1/2 the hardware 'features' on that Hewlett-Packard Compaq NC6400.
And two of the products were Microsoft Exchange 2007 and Vista. TFA mentions that even Microsoft is now recommending you split up Exchange onto separate servers. At least Domino has the 'super-groupware bloat' excuse for running like a dog on nearly-supercomputer server hardware. Plus the DMZ server bit sound interesting: lower your spam by letting only part of your Windows mail system get 0wned. (Assuming your not the target of the botnet your new server just joined.)
And what the heck is DevPartner? Is it a Visual Studio plugin? An IDE? A database validation suite? I've even used slick|edit, which which as of last week wasn't on the wikipedia IDE list. I've never heard of it before.
I do like the 1U server they picked. It has worse stats than my 2U home gaming rig bought at the end of 2005. They harp at how 5 of them could fit where an 10 blade server (running 20+ Windows-in-VMware-on-Linux servers) would. What's the advantage again? Oh, right selling more stuff.
Sorry, this reads like some salesman sold one too many ads and the editors needed a way to cop-out on product placements. -
Re:I wish MS would come out with something like th
Maybe SlickEdit is what you are looking for... Their "Mac" version requires X11 though.
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Re:Who has done it right?
If you want something anywhere close to VS 2005, try the demo of SlickEdit. I don't know of any other IDE in Linux that's better, especially for C/C++ coding. I never used it a lot personally, but a coworker of mine uses it everyday and it does seem to be a pretty efficient and capable IDE.
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Re:SlickEdit
I use Visual SlickEdit 10 for Linux. http://www.slickedit.com/ This piece of software is the most configurable IDE I've ever used;
I'll second that.. I use slickedit to work on the various perl/php scripts that I maintain. As such, I can't say much about the compiler, but the intergration with cvs is nice. :)
it's a tad on the expensive side, but everything just works and it was worth it for me.
If you can provide a student ID, you get it for a fraction of the cost. Then just pay the yearly maintenance to keep the software up to date.. Worked out great for me.. :) I've been using it for about 4 years now.. -
Re:Visual Studio 2005
Borland's Delphi (Windows) and Kylix (Linux) is superior to Visual Studio/Visual C++ in most repects. They are full RAD systems with drag-and-drop interface builders and come with excellent compilers for both Object Pascal and C++. There are a large number of third-party component packages available for them. There is a free version of Kylix although they hide it pretty well on their web site. It is called "Open Edition" and you can get it here: http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/downloa
d _kylix.html. Visual Slickedit is a very sophisticated text editor which turns any set of command line tools into a graphic IDE. It does not have an visual interface builder, however. Available for both Windows and Linux but no free version. It is well worth the price if you are programming at the professional level. http://www.slickedit.com/ Mike -
If it's worth money to you...
Visual Slickedit is the best by far but you have to pay for it. I have used the Windows version professionally for decades and bought the Linux version when I got my first contract job using Linux. If you are doing serious programming, it is unbeatable. It is complicated enough to require some study to master it. It can be configured to work as a front-end for any command-line tools and the Linux version comes set up for all of the usual ones. It analyses program structure, parses compiler error messages and references them to the source text, etc. It does an excellent job of organizing large projects involving hundreds of files and many modules. http://www.slickedit.com/ Mike
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SlickEdit
I use Visual SlickEdit 10 for Linux. http://www.slickedit.com/ This piece of software is the most configurable IDE I've ever used; it's a tad on the expensive side, but everything just works and it was worth it for me.
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Re:Turn off all the other featurs
If You think those are good, I recommend you try: Visual Slickedit
Perhaps the best editor I've ever come across.
It has features like, Contexts - where you get to see declarations and implementations of function and types you're using in a "preview window", like the lower pane of many popular mail readers (where they show you an email preview.
You can also easily jump to declarations, AND it automatically keeps tracks of your jumps, so that you can always "jump back".
It's completely scriptable and extremely customizable.
It's like coding reinvented, I highly recommend.
Oh, and btw, it's cross platform. (There's a windows version and a linux version, perhaps even other OS's which i didn't bother checking) -
Re:Ultimate Killer App
Until Linux gets an IDE at least 75% as good as MSDev
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Eclipse + myEclipse
If you're doing any J2EE work, I highly recommend Eclipse with the myEclipse plugin. It carries a price tag of about $30 per year, but this is much cheaper than many of the other equivalent IDEs. Included are a JSP developer, XML editor, SQL Editor, database explorer, EJB modeler and JSTL support among many other features. It is a great tool.
If J2EE isn't of any concern, I still first recommend Eclipse because of its nice integration with CVS, JUnit and other Java tools. There are also plugins for C and C++. And best of all, it's free. Even if Eclipse weren't free, I'd still pay for it. It's the best IDE I know.
The only other IDE I'd recommend is SlickEdit. I used it for a number of years for C/C++ and Java before switching to Eclipse. It's a good editor, but I found that I could do my job better with Eclipse. Many of my co-workers use SlickEdit instead and rave about it. It all depends on what you need to do and how you work. There's now a plugin so you can use the SlickEdit code editor in Eclipse. However, Visual SlickEdit comes with a price tag in the $200 - $300 range and the plugin is a about $150 or so.
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Re:VS.NET
The development tools under windows blow everything else out of the water.
Which other IDE's have you used?
There are a lot of commercial and free Integrated Development Environments.
I love Eclipse as the next guy. Hell, I use buggy and sometimes unsupported Perl mods to edit big Perl programs with the CVS integration turned on.
In Windows, I have used various professional tools like the Boreland Compiler and free tools like Programmer's File Editor.
Microsoft is known for producing a very advanced and usable IDE. Visual Studio usually showcases GUI enhancements and other niftiness that doesn't make it into Office or the win.exe shell for one or more product cycles. (If only the HTML editing suite had recieved such attention...)
However, I have had the joy of using slick|edit. It shows what a world class IDE should look like. Of course, the place at which I worked with this tool had seriously abused the interoperability of slick|edit With other systems. It was nice to have been running 5 or 6 commercial development tools from specialty vendors, like Rational Clearcase and Clearquest, right there with me. I felt like an EMACS zelot who had just grokked his first meta-command.
Of course, I could pay to use slick|edit, and pay for a Windows Operating system on which to run it. But I'd rather spend my money[1] supporting a Linux distributor and use a very nice editor/development tool like eclipse for free.
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1. Besides, which would you rather have: a shiny new Windows XP install, or a shiny new Linux install and enough money to buy a cheap hooker^H^H^H^H^H^Hdate? Although, either way you are risking getting some nasty viruses. -
Look into Visual Slickedit.
Try Visual Slickedit, one of the best IDEs I've ever seen. Kinda expensive, but worth it. Try the trial version if you don't believe me.
It has native support for (not just color coding!):
Ada, dBASE, JSP, Slick-C, Ant, Delphi Pascal, Lex, Tcl, ANTLR, DTD, Pascal, Transact SQL, C, Fortran, Perl, VHDL, C++, High Level Assembler, PHP, Visual Basic
.NET, C#, HTML, PL/SQL, VB Script, CFScript, IDL, PowerNP Assembler, Verilog, Ch, InstallScript, PVWave, x86 Assembly, CICS, Java, Python, XML, COBOL, JavaScript, REXX, XSD, DB2, JCL, SAS, YACCAnd syntax highlighting for more.
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Re:where are the docs ?
Documentation for version 9 can be ordered here.
Slickedit used to include the printed manual up to version 6 of their boxed product; from version 7 on it has been an optional, extra-cost item.
Quality of documentation is variable: the manual tries to cover all the features, as well as the extension language & API, but much experimentation is necessary to really understand how the more obscure features work, often not mentined in the manual but only the (usually detailed) new features list in the Readme file. -
The tools are useful, but...
... if you read the description of the features that they've added, it isn't as impressive (to me, at least) as you would believe from the magic moniker "refactoring". They merely provide automation to refactoring tasks you could do by hand but which are more time consuming.
The comparison with a compiler is specious. Perhaps a better comparison would be to a macro assembler. But even then, the fact is the editor is not doing anything more than the body sitting on the other side of the keyboard.
What would be interesting, and what wasn't clear from the marketing noise on the site, is whether the editor is performing semantic analysis of the code to deal with aliasing and other issues that crop up when refactoring by hand.
This is not to say these functions aren't useful: they are. But they don't just spin through your code and rewrite it for you. You need to know what you're doing.
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A contractor's toolkitMy list is as follows:
- 4NT - I am old enough to use the command line.
- Visual Slickedit - my editor of choice. I started out with version 4 and I just sent off the money for the upgrade to version 9 yesterday.
- Subversion - 'cause VCS is a must. The place where I work may not use it but I will.
- Tortoise SVN - to make my life with a VCS even more easy.
- Cygwin - mostly for GCC.
- Linkstash - I think this is a much better way to manage bookmarks
- Winzip - the latest version. And yes, I've paid for it.
- Object Desktop - I've gotten addicted to Object Bar and Object Edit. No, I'm not into skinning...
- OE-QuoteFix - makes Outlook Express a bearable newsreader.
- ev41 - a free HP-41 emulation for when I need a real calculator. There is a Pocket PC version too.
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Re:Eclipse 3.0 new features
the editor in Eclipse 2.0 is among the best I have ever used
I agree that the editor in Eclipse 2.x is much improved, and is quite good, but it's tough to beat the Visual Slickedit Plug-In for WSAD/Eclipse (No, I don't work for them, just a happy user). -
You can also buy...
Visual Slick Edit for Linux. I have the 6.0 version for Linux and it works pretty good.
Or if you are 133t you can just use vim
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Re:Who cares about vi versus emacs?
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SlickEdit -- VI
Many suggested SlickEdit, but they missed an important feature: SlickEdit have a VI emulation mode!
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SlickEdit
I just think it's better.
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SlickEditI use SlickEdit. There is a Visual SlickEdit product, which is a Windows app, but I actually prefer the version that runs in the Command Prompt (because when you exit it, you are right back in the command window so you can compile right then). Unfortunately I don't know if that version is still included with Visual SlickEdit (it used to be a separate product, then it was bundled for a while).
As an added bonus you can tell yourself you are using a descendent of the very editor that was used by the actual developers of the early versions of NT!
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Visual SlickeditPros:
- Superb source code browser. The main reason why I bought Slickedit.
- Runs on most OS'es including Linux and OS/390(!).
- C-like macro-language
- The people at Slickedit are very responsive if you're having trouble. This includes support as well as sales.
- It costs money. A single user license is $299 in USA and Canada, $329 everywhere else.
- No Mac version.
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SlickEdit
Have a look at Visual SlickEdit - www.slickedit.com. Works great with Development projects in Java, Perl, C, HTML... on and on.
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Do they know DOS?If these Windows users also know DOS (I don't know if that's a fair presumption) one approach is the Unix Guide for DOS Users approach -- give them a list of the basic commands and their Unix counterparts. That combined with man/info can certainly give them a jump start. (Unfortunately, the book I'm thinking of appears to be out of print.) As for the basics, Windows users will appreciate knowing how to (ab)use ln.
I'm also assuming they don't need to know how to set up and install a system, just be a user. They should know how to configure their own environments, set environment variables, etc. System stuff should be limited to the software they might be using and managing -- where are the logs and conf files, how to install, and so forth.
Free alternatives to costly software is a great idea. What about a brief discussion of Apache, JavaServer/JSP, Xerces, Xalan, etc? No need to get into the nitty gritty, but let them know there are free, multiplatorm alternatives to everything. My alternative to Visual Studio is Visual SlickEdit.
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Re:What I want...Well, I've been using Visual SlickEdit (mentioned elsewhere in the thread) for a couple of years now as virtually my exclusive editor, and it runs on almost every platform I care about (Intel Linux, Windows, Sparc Solaris, FreeBSD, etc.). Its tagging goes way beyond what etags does, and has built-in reference analysis. Once you've built your tag database (which automatically updates when you edit a file in slickedit), you can choose to view references. You type in a tag (such as a method or variable name), it'll pop up a list of potentially matching tags (so if you have a lot of things named getName(), for example, it'll let you choose which one), and then it will display all code which references that tag. You can then double click on a code region to go straight to the file and area where that exists (although it shows you a few lines at a time normally). I think there's actually a keyboard shortcut to do that for a particular tag (just like you can automatically go to the declaration of a tag)
Although this seems like a convoluted feature, it's extremely useful for doing any kind of refactoring work where you want immediate feedback analysis. You get to see immediately where everything is used, and it's got other tools which help with that as well (like the class browser and the like). (It also has Visual Basic-style autocomplete, which I absolutely love, because on large projects I never remember exactly what everything's named).
Admittedly, you might not want to change editors just for this feature, but you might want to have it in your arsenal of tools for when you do need/want it.
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Re: Java IDEs
VisualSlickEdit. While not technically an IDE, it's trivial to wire in external tools such as ant.
I also use TogetherControlCenter, but once I move from design to coding that environment is too slow, cumbersome, and resource intensive.
SlickEdit/ant is especially nice when deploying EJBs. TogetherCC and VisualCafe take a couple of minutes to deploy an EJB jar. ant does it in 5 seconds. -
What Kind of Developer are You?
I use an editor and an IDE. The editor I use is Visual SlickEdit. It is light, fast, and runs on every platform I've ever heard of. I also use an IDE that can generate code and manage J2EE archives. The IDE I use is the SilverStream eXtend Workbench. (I would note that I am a little biased since I was one of the people who wrote this IDE).
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I use
Slickedit, hands down the best balance between Notepad and a full fledged IDE I've seen. Think emacs, but with a better GUI and without all the extra crap and ridiculous key combos.
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Re:Give MS Visual Studio a Chance!
By far, my favorite feature is the popup Intellisense, when you're working with an object or struct and type "." or "->" you get a window with the details of the object at that level.
Visual Slickedit has this and many more features and is availble for almost all UNIXes. Trial versions are available.
Slickedit is expensive ($299), and closed source, and most of its (and other editors) features can be reproduced in vi and emacs, but I like it. Especially the feature you mention.
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Re:Give MS Visual Studio a Chance!
By far, my favorite feature is the popup Intellisense, when you're working with an object or struct and type "." or "->" you get a window with the details of the object at that level.
Visual Slickedit has this and many more features and is availble for almost all UNIXes. Trial versions are available.
Slickedit is expensive ($299), and closed source, and most of its (and other editors) features can be reproduced in vi and emacs, but I like it. Especially the feature you mention.
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SlickEdit
It's a bit pricey, but Visual SlickEdit has BRIEF emulation, and a Linux port.
Aside from the price, it's an excellent all-around programmer's editor.
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Visual SlickEdithttp://www.slickedit.com/
I'm amazed about how few people know Visual SlickEdit. It is an amazing editor, and yes, it has some BRIEF compatibility. However, that's not it's strong point. It's very cross-platform (well, no Mac version, and the OS/2 version stops at 4.0), but mostly it's extremely powerful and configurable. You just have no idea how awesome this editor is until you've used it a couple weeks.
Unfortunately, it's closed-source and rather expensive. But I wouldn't use anything else.
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Re:IDE
Try Visual Slickedit. It has a built in macro language (SlickC) and support for loads of languages. Yes, it's not Free software, but I think £200 is about right for a good IDE. It's the only IDE I know of that correctly syntax highlights languages inside HTML.
I like IDEs because they are a labour-saving device. How many ppl here use a machine to wash your clothes? (no, Mum does not count ;-) I don't want to have to update a make file because I changed 2 dozen files out of 2 thousand. I don't want to have remember which files are checked in and out, that information should be visible to me; I want to concentrate on coding.
Yes, there is the argument that hand crafted beats machine tooled, especially in software, but I don't want to spend time updating or fixing builds and headers when I don't have to.
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Re:Who here is using KDevelop at work for producti
Allow me to put in a third program into the fray: MicroEdge's Visual SlickEdit.
KDevelop looks and works just like (with a less features) just like SlickEdit. It's got syntax highlighting, object viewer, etc, etc. The build frame and browse frame are in the same locations as KDevelop <sarcasm>What a striking resemblence it has!</sarcasm>
Seriously, KDevelop, Visual Studio, and SlickEdit all share the same interface. Who developed it first? Hell if I know, but there must be something to the layout, if three different programs use it.... Anyway, I use SlickEdit at work, and it's the neatest thing on the planet as far as I'm concerned. It's basically a frontend for all your favorite command line tools. Does multiple language syntax highlighting. You can brew your own syntax rules (Great for in-house languages). There's a ton of other feautures I never use.
However, SlickEdit costs $500 bucks a pop. I would never shell out that much (the upgrades are bad too) when you've got nice little KDevelop here that implements all my favorite features and is free to boot. Where I work, the various developers depend on different pieces of SlickEdit, not all of which are implemented in KDevelop or Visual Studio.
I really don't have a point to this, but just to say the visual interface of KDevelop is not exclusive to MS software and that there are professionals that use that *kind* of visual interface (not explicitly KDevelop) in the production environment. -
Re:VC++ Rocks!?
KDevelop
... still found it to be miles ahead of any other Linux IDE
I guess you meant free IDE. E.g. the commercial Visual Slickedit is far ahead of VC++ and also available for Linux. -
Re:IDE's and Linux
http://www.slickedit.com/
I like and use it as well. Can emulate emacs, vi, Brief, CUA, has optional command line, own C-like language for the editor, support a lot of languages, fast, reliable and many-many great features. Functionality is similar to emacs but with MUCH faster learning time. I've tried all of the IDE's for Linux but Visual Slickedit were the most convincing and easy of use. The ONLY BIG problem it doesn't integrate with a debugger (of course you can invoke it, but doesn't follow what you are debugging if you want to edit the source)