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For those who don't know that with that interface it takes many hours to copy and decrypt two or three files (and there are no more objects in the system than maybe half a dozen, imagine a real filesystem with gigabytes of data in hundreds of thousands of files) download Beneath a Steel Sky CD Version or Floppy Version and play it with ScummVM. It's a great game, even though that interface is nothing but a joke, like most of things there.

I can't see any connection between free/open-source software and poor interfaces.

I was right now using FMA, an open-source interface for Sony-Ericsson mobiles, and, in 24 developers, 4 of them are graphic designers...

Want any better?

As I indicated before, FSV is another great and similar program, except it's open-source and doesn't require a SGI Workstation. :P

Just to clarify...

The 9200 is hardly a "new" card. While the designation/release of the card might be relatively new, the card is actually using a variant of the chipset used in the older 8500. Therefore, the drivers support it.

"New" cards would refer to the 9600/9700/9800 - there are no open source 3D drivers for them (although I'm using the XFree86 "radeon" driver for 2D on my 9700 right now).

If you look at http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ATIRad eon, you'll see the breakdown of the cards. The 9200 has a RV280 core, whereas the 9600/9700/9800 have RV350/R300/R350 cores. R(v)300 and higher don't have open-source drivers, although the GATOS team claims to be working on something.

-- Joe

Yeah, or like imgSeek. Although those two programs deal with 2-D images, not with 3-D parts.

I'm not sure if anyone's interested in the game, but it has been released as freeware and can be run under the ScummVM emulator on a variety of platforms. All the necessary files can be had here.

All these graphics seem too bloated. My shell has functionality above and beyond delete. It is smaller, faster & I can slay files & directories without the boss being any the wiser.

1. http://www/smoothwall.org

2. http://adzapper.sourceforge.net/#install

3. http://martybugs.net/smoothwall/adzap.cgi

Get them. Do it.

Try all you like, you filthy, rotten marketeers, but you won't be peddling your wares in MY house...

Hahahahahahha!!!

Try imgSeek: imgSeek is a photo collection manager and viewer with content-based search and many other features. The query is expressed either as a rough sketch painted by the user or as another image you supply (or an image in your collection). The searching algorithm makes use of multiresolution wavelet decomposition of the query and database images.

You mean the SGI FSN 3D Navigator?
http://www.sgi.com/fun/freeware/3d_navigator.html

A good replacement is the open-source fsv:
http://fsv.sourceforge.net/

This is similar to the infamous psDooM (aka: DooM for Sys Admins)

Sunny Dubey

lspci

/proc/pci

cat /proc/pci

/etc/lilo.conf

/boot/vmlinuz.old

The lack of some key features are what kept it from being ready, but I imagine much of it will be dependent on the distribution, placing icons in the start menu, etc when one installs a .deb, .rpm, or runs an emerge.

Maybe use MenuMaker?

Phillip.

how about a text mode SIRD? aa3d!

g1powermac already created a livecd using Morphix that has xpde5 inside. Just boot it using desktop=xpde5 boot parameter. It will default to 0.4.2 since xpde5 is still lacking some of the features. Sourceforge download

Have you tried Zero Install? If you had that, you'd be able to try out new programs easily without waiting for Debian to package them ;-)

(as the other poster noted, there are also ROX Debs available if you prefer that method)

Have you tried Zero Install? If you had that, you'd be able to try out new programs easily without waiting for Debian to package them ;-)

(as the other poster noted, there are also ROX Debs available if you prefer that method)

Although not quite the same thing, a project does exist with a similar goal. It's called 'P2P Bridge'. Check out the project page:
http://p2pbridge.sourceforge.net/

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python replaces java
webware replaces servlets
cheetah replaces velocity

i've just started using python, haven't even cracked open webware or cheetah yet - but conceptually, at least, these seem quite similar to their counterparts.

i suspect the java-based stuff is faster, scales a lot better, has more libraries, and is more mature - but the P+W+C might grow to fill that void, using completely free software.

has anyone used both of these sets of technology? what are your opinions?

It's ready!

Seriously, this rocks. Yeah, yeah, sure. Other projects have done things like this before. But I love this idea even more than Gentoo's system, which also rocks. So I read some of the site to try to answer some of my own first asked questions.

Q. Do I have to add a bunch of crap to my $PATH?
A. No, you just use a shell that is application directory aware, and it will find the binary just fine if the application directory is in a directory in $PATH.

Q. Will it let me recompile critical applications, either to patch them or optimize them?
A Sure. Keep three different verions of Apache around, one with mod_perl, one with mod_rewrite, another with mod_php. Optimize for your new Sexium X CPU. Turn on full foo support, even though it's not recommended!

Q. What about apps with hardcoded pathnames?
A. Edit and recompile. HAND.

Q. What about libraries?
A. (From this page on the ROX Application directory system.) Applications link to libraries in /uri/0install. If the required version isn't there, then instead of reporting an error (as traditional applications do), they run 0refresh. Software can be uncached when it hasn't been accessed for a long time (eg, months or years). If it's needed again, it gets refetched.

Q. What about versioning?
A. You can keep different versions of an application around in different directories. I couldn't find any information regarding library versioning. Hopefully libraries in /uri/0install have directories by major version number, and ROX applications are linked correctly. Prepare to have much fun with compiler and linker flags finding all your include files and libraries when you convert your application to ROX.

Q. DND Saving? What's that?
A. Rox aware apps support dragging files from a save box to a directory in a file browser to save. Finally, someone does this right.

This kind of proposal about scrapping the current directory structure has been discussed ad nauseum on the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard mailing lists. Here is the Standard Rebuttal against scrapping /bin and /usr/bin:

With each app in its own directory, your $PATH becomes a mile long, and too difficult to maintain.

Different application packages can have identically-named binaries. Upgraded packages always have the same binary names.

The Standard Rebuttal against scrapping /lib:

Apps which depend on other apps for libraries won't know where to look. This is especially true if each installed version of a required app is stored in its own numbered directory.

Rebuttals for getting rid of /usr (i.e., having a One (Partition) Size Fits All approach):

#1: Some boxes have read-only disks for security (CD-ROM firewalls come to mind). Now you can't install new applications.
#2: You have one 100GB partition and you get a power spike. Now you have to wait for the fsck to finish before you can troubleshoot the damage.
#3: You're in a diskless environment with centralized, NFS-mounted applications. With no /usr, you have no suitable mount point.

On the mailing lists, the use of /package (or /pkg) also has been discussed ad nauseum. Keep in mind that the filesystem hierarchy is designed so that non-local (commercial) packages don't step all over each other when installing. Local (enterprise) software installation can happen wherever the hell you want it to, as long as it doesn't have to play nice with COTS software.

Executive summary: you can run whatever directory structure you want -- I won't stop you. Just expect to hear lots of complaints from your developers and sysadmins. The reason things are the way they are is partially due to industry inertia, but mostly due to the fact that they just work better that way. If you don't like it, go contribute.

And, of course, it's mainly used for distributing Java apps :-)

Zero Install uses HTTP too (any web server will do if you want to provide Zero Install software).

See the Documentation for packagers for a step-by-step guide.

System security? Nothing. All code runs as you. As for your own security, it doesn't allow any attack that couldn't have been done without Zero Install too.

Reducing the security risk from traditional installation systems (APT, RPM, etc where you're running a downloaded install script as root) was an important goal for Zero Install.

See The Zero Install system

Be-fan -- your deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you are missing something. There's no "drag and drop" involved -- zero install means zero install.

It's based on a sort of virtualized internet filesystem. Here is their example:

You never install, you just run, either by command line or some form of gui contraption. Of course, this system places a lot of faith in the upstream developers, but their website paints a far more interesting picture than the summary given here. Here, for instance, is a decent comparison with apt. Check it out.

What is it?

ROX is a desktop environment, like GNOME, KDE and XFCE.

It is an attempt to bring some of the good features from RISC OS to Unix and Linux.

Relation to RISC OS
What's RISC OS?

RISC OS is an operating system used in Acorn/Castle machines. It had some good GUI features, but was poor in other areas. ROX seeks to bring these good UI features to Unix-type platforms.

What is it?

ROX is a desktop environment, like GNOME, KDE and XFCE.

It is an attempt to bring some of the good features from RISC OS to Unix and Linux.

Relation to RISC OS
What's RISC OS?

RISC OS is an operating system used in Acorn/Castle machines. It had some good GUI features, but was poor in other areas. ROX seeks to bring these good UI features to Unix-type platforms.

It has been implemented in OS X.

There are Morphix tools to customize the iso, and a very handy /deb subdirectory: just master an iso with some .debs inside it and they will be automatically --force installed when morphix boots.

There is an alternative, sort of. It's called XTender, and its public beta was incredibly unimpressive. The day after XTender went public an update was made to ShapeShifter, and everyone again realized how good it was.

Also, ShapeShifter has cost money since its inception. No underhanded tactics there... although it did have the big themers involved in its creation to do the things that they wanted to do. The same guy develops the theme changing and theme creating software, and he is very approachable in regards to feature requests and bug reports. ShapeShifter is technically under the Unsanity umbrella, but Jason Harris makes both. ThemePark (to create themes) also allows exporting to many other non-guikit formats, including the format native to ShapeShifter's competitor (XTheme), and the format supported by Open Source alternatives such as ThemeChanger.

All ShapeShifter guikits can be extracted into images and a Extras.rsrc file using Guikitty. They can't be directly used by another application, so in a sense it is closed and proprietary, but the above mentioned XTender was able to automatically load ShapeShifter guikits if you had Guikitty installed.

Another big point is that a lot of themes use ShapeShifter because it has features that go above and beyond what is capable with any other theme changer, even in terms of things as simple as changing text colors.

Competition is always good, don't get me wrong. But there isn't a whole lot to complain about with ShapeShifter, and any competition it has had has been crushed despite the higher price tag because of ease of use, features, and theme-changing safety (it doesn't modify any system files, or even attempt to overlay those owned by root).

And finally, theres nothing preventing the winning theme from being released in the DLTA (aka Open Source friendly) format as well, the only restriction would be if the theme requires features that are only available in ShapeShifter.

Alright, I think that about makes the case...

Connect digital out from pc sound board
to digital in of sound board on next pc
over. Record. Play. Distribute.

Better yet, install Windows on bochs,
and connect bochs audio output to a file. Distribute.

I just bought the cd version of Corel Linux 1.0 in order to get the deb package of WordPerfect 8.1. It was only 2 dollars on eBay. It still works even in Debian unstable. You just have to fiddle with the dependencies a bit.

You can still download WordPerfect 8 for Linux and install it, though the legality of this isn't completely clear. Corel at one time made it available for free download. Several sites continue to offer it and Corel has done nothing to stop them. See the WordPerfect on Linux FAQ for more info.

WordPerfect 8/8.1 is a lot faster than OpenOffice, and more importantly, it reads WordPerfect files. A lot of law offices have all of their documents in WordPerfect.

There is a pretty good WordPerfect filter for OpenOffice (LibWPD), but it's hard to compete with the real thing.

I think this will cause many law firms to consider switching to Linux.

Sun's death would not take Java with it. Quite the contrary, it might just free it up. As for being the only one in the virtual machine market, there are several other companies that produce virtual machines for Java. IBM is one such example, offering both stand alone and clustered VM's. There are several other 3rd party VMs as well as some open source ones.

And, with complete sympathy to those who use Java for developing applets and lament MS' continuing lack of support in their browser, Java's strength, both on the functional and marketable fronts, is on the server-side. Microsoft is still a long way from conquering the middleware/application server market.

It's easier to code a program for reading a binary file than an XML file.

I think that you would really like Jef Raskin's book The Humane Interface (Jef Raskin was the guy who came up with the idea for the Macintosh). His chapter on habituation, the "you can always find it here so it's second nature" phenomenon mentioned in your post, is something you'd find interesting.

Jef has also launched a Humane Interface project on SourceForge, if you're interested in contributing to that.

Try gqview.. Not sure if it'll compile in os x tho

Hello. I'm the project manager for PDTP, and author of Skyfire. There's nothing wrong with the QPL whatsoever, unless you mind the fact that it's GPL incompatible (but then again, so is the Apache license). The QPL is an OSI Approved license, so there's nothing to worry about.

Hehe, I had Debian on my Powerbook and I switched to OS X after Panther came out. I really enjoy it. I have all my normal UNIX apps as well as stuff like Office (which I think is better on the Mac than on Windows). And I have Virtual Desktop support due the wonderful Desktop Manager. I highly recommend OS X.

Compilers, emulators, flash cartridges, and sample code are real as well.

... this QT GPL project was ever done, we could just ignore any such issues for ever and ever: http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/qt3-win32/index. php

Question:
"Skyfire is using a derivative of the Apache License. Doesn't that preclude linking with Qt as the Apache License is incompatible with the GPL?"

Answer:
"Qt/X11 is dual licensed under both the GPL and the QPL. The Apache License, while incompatible with the GPL, is not incompatible with the QPL, so when Skyfire is linked with Qt/X11 the terms of the QPL apply. Qt Non-Commercial Edition for Windows has a separate set of license terms which apply to all Windows builds of Skyfire." (emphasis added)

Isn't this license a poor one? Aren't they breaking sourceforge.net rules by using a OSI unapproved license?

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Very simple use Audacity and some other ripper. Record your message, turn the volume down, change the pitch whatever. Rip your cd to a wave file then mix your message with any your track. Finally reburn the track onto a CD and walla!

You can also find a brainwave generator in CoolEdit... At least in the 96 version. I've fiddled with it a bit, mixing alpha (superlearning waveform) or delta (lucid dreaming waveform) waves on top of pink noise. i've listened to the alpha waves while studying but not under any controlled environment where i could tell a differnce between with/without. I've also tried subliminal messages woven into the brainwaves.
The subliminal messages did not work. once again, no controlled environment and i didn't spend a lot of time tweaking messages, frequencies or noise color.
The jury is still out on brainwave theory though. I can't tell alot of difference on myself, and I don't think that i could get my wife to sit still long enough to be a good test subject. I've been tempted to build the EEG project on Sourceforge so a complete feedback loop could be constructed.

Oh, and if you're a programmer who's extremely bored you might try writing a plugin for Winamp for brainwave generation.

From what I can tell this project is already stable and ready for production. It even has a sophisticated simulator to test the missile firing alogrythms if you don't happen to actually have a real missile to fire. Check out the source code.

You want Audacity.

I second the motion. I've used Audacity and find it pretty impressive. Plus, it's open source.

Another multi-track, sound-editing option is n-track studio. It's closed source shareware, but powerful and may be worth your 30 some odd dollars. (Play with the trial version before committing any personal funds. It may not be what you are wanting.) I used it to do some recording back in the pre-3.0 days and was fairly pleased with the results.

So, I'm thinking, wouldn't it be fun to open such a project on Source Forge? Then I thought - I'll bet somebody did. (yeah, go to the link, it's there).