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Sun has many internship programsSun has plenty of internship programs that you could look at.
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Sun always has openings for internsI interviewed several college students for intern positions here at Sun last summer and we're always looking for more. (I'm in the SF Bay Area, but Sun has offices all over the world, including sizable campuses in Colorado, Massachusetts, Ireland, Germany, India, etc.)
If you're looking for an internship (or a permanent position), check out http://www.sun.com/jobs/
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Re:I'd like to know more about their Iron
In the credits for "A Bugs Life" I noticed that Pixar uses Sun Microsystems for rendering the final theatre quality version, however they use SGI workstations. I would imagine that Squaresoft has a similar setup. Pixar probably has several fully loaded Sun Enterprise 10000 machines that do their rendering.
You would think so, but I guess they got a better deal on E4000 servers, as they used 100 of them for A Bug's Life. See http://www.sun .co m/smi/Press/sunflash/9812/sunflash.981215.2.html for more info.
Since then, they've got a new one, tho. 120 Enterprise 4500s, which are $223,000 EACH.... http://www. sun .com/smi/Press/sunflash/1999-08/sunflash.990810.2. html
Someone mentioned that he thought the Final Fantasy people used Onyxes, but that'd really surprise me, since the Onyxes usually are used for realtime graphics things, and not rendering. It would seem kinda pointless to put a really high-end graphics system in a box that's gonna do cpu-intensive things only. Unless, of course these boxes can use some of their graphics hardware for rendering nonrealtime stuff as well. You'd probably want to have one Onyx to see quick previews without having to push it through your rendering farm, but that won't be production-level quality.
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Re:I'd like to know more about their Iron
In the credits for "A Bugs Life" I noticed that Pixar uses Sun Microsystems for rendering the final theatre quality version, however they use SGI workstations. I would imagine that Squaresoft has a similar setup. Pixar probably has several fully loaded Sun Enterprise 10000 machines that do their rendering.
You would think so, but I guess they got a better deal on E4000 servers, as they used 100 of them for A Bug's Life. See http://www.sun .co m/smi/Press/sunflash/9812/sunflash.981215.2.html for more info.
Since then, they've got a new one, tho. 120 Enterprise 4500s, which are $223,000 EACH.... http://www. sun .com/smi/Press/sunflash/1999-08/sunflash.990810.2. html
Someone mentioned that he thought the Final Fantasy people used Onyxes, but that'd really surprise me, since the Onyxes usually are used for realtime graphics things, and not rendering. It would seem kinda pointless to put a really high-end graphics system in a box that's gonna do cpu-intensive things only. Unless, of course these boxes can use some of their graphics hardware for rendering nonrealtime stuff as well. You'd probably want to have one Onyx to see quick previews without having to push it through your rendering farm, but that won't be production-level quality.
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cycles..and changes.. not really that ingenious of an idea, but it's interesting to see some of the cycles of computing:
- large mainframe, bunch of little terms
- users have their own PCs
- back to simple terminal running on remote server. see the fairly recent Sun Ray
- now the 2C Computing hybrid
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Re:Mercury is uninformedActually dotNet framework allows code to access hardware only if it is marked as unsafe.
Hehehe. My point exactly. But on a more serious note, keep in mind what M$ means by safe/unsafe. This means that all that stands in the way of your hard drive being wiped is a puny security certificate. Most users have no idea that it means that machine specific code is running on their machines completely unadulterated. This is not a good thing. (Trust me.) If you want to see a good security model, go check out Java Web Start. It is an excellent model for secure web applications and already has several good programs running for it. (Off the top of my head, go check out Jext)
Also, by addressing C/C++ I am attempting to address common misconceptions which is a great deal of what Mercury is basing their opinion on. Anyway, I'm done ranting. Chow.
P.S. You'll need to register for Java Developer Connection in order to get JWS. Don't worry, it's worth it. :-) -
Clustering?Speaking of clustering (no, not Beowulf) check out Sun's new FREE clustering software (more precisely a batch-processing system) called Grid Engine.
Hey, it's free, works with Solaris/SPARC - what's not to like, if you can use it?
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Re:Lots of TLDs>but I obviously wouldn't want
.sun!though no doubt Sun Microsystems would like one of those...
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Re:RH7 sux
Could not even use JDK1.2.2 - segfault every time
I got this one as well. Upgrading to JDK 1.3 fixed it. -
Microsoft stepping into Linux...Sun
I don't buy that Microsoft is forking over $135 million simply so that that "two companies will work together on developing and testing products for Microsoft's
.Net platform, which lets customers "rent" software over the Internet."
Microsoft has invested in companies, albeit few, with some type of Linux presence. I am curious what role, if any, the prospect of breaking up Microsoft into two companies has had in Microsoft making such investments.
Well, with Corel now in Microsoft's bag, the only other competitive office suite is Sun's StarOffice. I bet Sun is licking their fingers over this story. If the playing field wasn't completely clear before, it is now. -
Already have an iPaq...
...so I'd like to get my hands on a couple of expansion sleeves...
Also, in the priceless category, I'd like to see TeamFortress2 and Tribes2 both hit before end of year (yeah right).
For ~$15k, I'd take a mid tier SunBlade 1000. Mmmmmmm, FC-AL disks in the box.
It also seems no one has mentioned the new Zelda game, so let me cast my vote for that. An iMode phone would be cool. Hmmmm, guess I could use a Voodoo5 6500 as well. A boxed set of all the Terry Gilliam DVD's would be the perfect stocking stuffer (yeah, it doesn't exist, but wouldn't it be keen if it did?).
And how about LiVid? I'd like to view some DVD's PC-side.
Oh, and an expansion pack for Crimson Skies (yeah, it's made by M$, but it's so stinkin' addicting!).
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Tha Beast's List...
1 Sony Glasstron: Geeky as hell, but still really cool looking. For the ladies: give your man these and he will let you use the TV!
http://www.sonystyle .co m/vaio_direct/76/33/942.default.html
2 Action Figures! www.spawn.com
3 For the hard-core 64-Bit geek in all of us, anything running on a Sun Ultrasparc-III!www.sun.com/store
4 Beer! (No link needed!)Knights of the Dinner Table -
Unlimited?
How about a US-III powered Sun Blade.
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Re:Solaris _is_ 'free' for _commercial-use_ too!Check the new license for 'free' Solaris 8.
Specifically, it states:
New Pricing: $0 License
To provide greater access to the Solaris Operating Enviroment encourage innovation on this
.com platform, Sun announced it is dramatically expanding access to the Solaris 8 Operating Environment.Individuals and organization can use the Solaris 8 software throughout their environment for commercial and non-commercial use, for the cost of media plus shipping.
In a one-two punch, Sun is also slashing the cost of the Solaris 8 source code license to $0.
" We're moving to a service-driven model to maintain innovation and scale, " says Ingram. "We're giving our communities a free license to use the source, while also providing them with a portfolio of world-class support services to help them
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Solaris upgrades are free.Sounds good in theory, but in reality, Sun has not been charging for upgrades in the last several years, if ever.
Until recently, Sun sold rather expensive licenses for Solaris X86, now it is 'free', for $75 media cost- http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/.
The last time I paid for an upgrade from Sun was to move a network of SunOS 4.1.3 boxes to Solaris 2.5.1, I contacted our Sun Sales rep, who told me that:
- All Sun hardware comes with a 'Right to Use' license for SunOS, and free upgrades, including to Solaris.
- A copy of the Solaris media kit for Solaris 2.5 from a Sun Reseller was $199.
- I only need one copy regardless of how many machines I upgrade- the 'media kit' is not a license.
- Sun doesn't make money off upgrades, the make money off support contracts and hardware.
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9.6GB/s is not the data bandwidth!
Here's the details about this chip...
Now lets see here... The 9.6GB/s is *only* cache coherency. Addresses, not data. So I wonder how they're inflating this number? As a line address is sent out on this bus, I bet they are counting the entire line size.
The cache BW is only 4.8 GB/s, and off chip is just 2.4GB/s. I'm not impressed. IBM has has been shipping machines with more than that for years. Heck, even Intel is going to catch Sun soon. S/390 G5 and G6 off chip BW is over 3GB/s. Infact, they're developing a machine available soon with 40GB/s data BW to the cache, and these caches are huge (like +128KB) low latency L1's, not the whimpy ones Sun is shipping (gee, notice they don't talk about the size?). Size matters. S/390 is the real choice for serious enterprise computing. And remember, IBM supports Linux across the entire line, from your wristwatch up to the biggest and baddest boxes in the world... -
Re:Your browser sent a message this server could n
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Two Words: Power Consumption
According to this page, the 750 MHz models have a maximum power dissipation of 70W. While it does have the ability to reduce the clock speed by 1/2 to 1/32 for EnergyStar compliance, you're still looking at a possible max power consumption of 560W.
Better hold off on that fantasy until we perfect a portable micro-fusion reactor. -
Sun Motherboards
I think that should be here
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Re:I'm sorry but..
can Intel hardware currently run 200-prosessor SMP-systems?
Um...neither can Sun. Sun's boxen top out at 64-way in the E10000. You'll have to look to SGI for 200-processor systems (up to 512 in the Origin 2800. And ccNUMA. I am awed...I want one.) -
Sun's New Boxen with the New ChipA new workstation, with really nice plastics: The Sun Blade 1000 and a server, the Sun Fire 280R. (No link yet.)
From their website:
"Sun ushers in the next generation of exceptional tools for technical professionals with the Sun Blade[tm] 1000 workstation. The Sun Blade 1000 system accommodates up to two superscalar, 64-bit, high-performance UltraSPARC[tm]-III CPUs. It features a high-performance, crossbar-switch system interconnect that provides high bandwidth (up to 4 GB/sec.) for today's and tomorrow's ultra-high-speed processors and graphic subsystems. It also delivers plenty of internal disk and memory and a 64-bit PCI bus for incredibly fast I/O. The Sun Blade 1000 workstation provides both USB and IEEE1394 interfaces for connectivity to the leading edge in third-party peripherals. With state-of-the-art high-end graphics, dual monitor capabilities, and support for Sun's advanced storage systems, this workstation is truly a powerful, flexible next-generation desktop."
Does anybody have pricing yet?A.
Datasheet: Sun Blade 1000
Whitepaper: Sun Blade 1000
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Sun's New Boxen with the New ChipA new workstation, with really nice plastics: The Sun Blade 1000 and a server, the Sun Fire 280R. (No link yet.)
From their website:
"Sun ushers in the next generation of exceptional tools for technical professionals with the Sun Blade[tm] 1000 workstation. The Sun Blade 1000 system accommodates up to two superscalar, 64-bit, high-performance UltraSPARC[tm]-III CPUs. It features a high-performance, crossbar-switch system interconnect that provides high bandwidth (up to 4 GB/sec.) for today's and tomorrow's ultra-high-speed processors and graphic subsystems. It also delivers plenty of internal disk and memory and a 64-bit PCI bus for incredibly fast I/O. The Sun Blade 1000 workstation provides both USB and IEEE1394 interfaces for connectivity to the leading edge in third-party peripherals. With state-of-the-art high-end graphics, dual monitor capabilities, and support for Sun's advanced storage systems, this workstation is truly a powerful, flexible next-generation desktop."
Does anybody have pricing yet?A.
Datasheet: Sun Blade 1000
Whitepaper: Sun Blade 1000
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Sun's New Boxen with the New ChipA new workstation, with really nice plastics: The Sun Blade 1000 and a server, the Sun Fire 280R. (No link yet.)
From their website:
"Sun ushers in the next generation of exceptional tools for technical professionals with the Sun Blade[tm] 1000 workstation. The Sun Blade 1000 system accommodates up to two superscalar, 64-bit, high-performance UltraSPARC[tm]-III CPUs. It features a high-performance, crossbar-switch system interconnect that provides high bandwidth (up to 4 GB/sec.) for today's and tomorrow's ultra-high-speed processors and graphic subsystems. It also delivers plenty of internal disk and memory and a 64-bit PCI bus for incredibly fast I/O. The Sun Blade 1000 workstation provides both USB and IEEE1394 interfaces for connectivity to the leading edge in third-party peripherals. With state-of-the-art high-end graphics, dual monitor capabilities, and support for Sun's advanced storage systems, this workstation is truly a powerful, flexible next-generation desktop."
Does anybody have pricing yet?A.
Datasheet: Sun Blade 1000
Whitepaper: Sun Blade 1000
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Re:To summarize the upcoming discussion
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Re:HW changes?
Thank you Mr Sun PR person, but you forgot to use one or more of the following terms: robust; scalable; enterprise-ready; next-generation;
e-buzzword-ready; leverage; grow your business; and new millenium. Or I could just go to Sun and read it there. -
Re:What about us consumers?
>It would be nice to see Sun produce mobo's for the new chip that support standard PC hardware.
Have a look at the products. -
What speed??
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What speed??
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Re:Running windows
That's not true!
It's a single card solution, with a "filler panel" containing an extra serial and parallel port.
It has an AMD K6-400 CPU on it with 64MB of RAM by default (extra DIMM slots onboard).
It costs $495 direct from Sun. That's not very expensive at all! Considering you'll no longer need a Pee-Cee...
Click here for the Sun Store link
The UltraSPARC is dead! Long live the UltraSPARC III!
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UltraSPARC II?Hmmm...
On the page that announces/discusses the UltraSPARC III you'll see that the image shown to the right is an UltraSPARC II! (do a view image)
D'ohhhhh!
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Re:HW changes?
bah...slashdot inserted a damned space into my link....
the appropriate link is here:
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To summarize the upcoming discussionSummary of most posts:
Its not X86, its cool.
Its Sun, its cool.
Does it run Linux?
I can't wait to get a Boewulf cluster of these
Sun sucks. Alphas rule.
Sun sucks, IBM power pcs rules
Why would this chip be on a desktop since its a server chip?
Slashdot sucks, I posted this a long time ago. Lets moderate stories.
Lets see if I can post a link to Sun to get moderated up as informative.
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Re:HW changes?
If you read the article&l t;/a>, here's what you would have seen...
As the second generation of the SPARC 64-bit architecture, the UltraSPARC III chip provides complete binary compatibility between applications written for previous generations of the architecture, delivering unmatched investment protection for Sun customers upgrading to next-generation systems. Furthermore, Sun's continuing development of the UltraSPARC II processor -- underscored by the announcement of the UltraSPARC IIe processor on September 11-- will extend the economically useful life of systems based on this architecture well into the future.
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USIII WebcastFrom Solaris Central:
For those of you who don't know, the US-III webcast will be at http://www.sun.com/webcast/neteffect/ at 10am EST..
For a sneak peak at one of the new machines I found online today... check out the Sun Fire 280R, which is the US-III replacement for the E220R. Amazing what you can do when you guess URL's.
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USIII WebcastFrom Solaris Central:
For those of you who don't know, the US-III webcast will be at http://www.sun.com/webcast/neteffect/ at 10am EST..
For a sneak peak at one of the new machines I found online today... check out the Sun Fire 280R, which is the US-III replacement for the E220R. Amazing what you can do when you guess URL's.
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Re:Trusted Solaris
HP Virtual Vault Based on HP-UX CMW
Of course all of these are CMW products which meet a slightly different set of criteria...
11. What are the CMWREQs and the CMWEC?
The criteria used by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) to rate a product as a Compartmented Mode Workstation (CMW) was the Compartmented Mode Workstation Evaluation Criteria (CMWEC), which superseded the CMW Requirements (CMWREQs) in 1991. This criteria defined a minimum level of assurance equivalent to the B1 level of the TCSEC (see TCSEC Criteria Concepts FAQ, Questions 9-11). It also defines a minimum set of functionality and usability features outside the scope of the TCSEC (e.g. a graphical user interface via a window system was required along with the capability to cut and paste between windows). Neither set of requirements are currently to evaluate products although products that are designed to have these features may be evaluated with the Common Criteria for Information Technology Security Evaluation (CCITSE). -
Or maybe Java...?
Sun has just "announced" J2ME (Java 2 Micro Edition), which they of course hope will be the next standard.
The standard is called the mobile information device profile (MIDP) and will be in mobile phones from Motorola, Nokia, LG Electronics, Nextel and NTT DoCoMo.
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More OS'
Don't forget that QNX will release RTP on Monday, and Sun has released Solaris on both Sparc & Intel platforms (and source too).
Additionally Nortel has released FIPA-OS for agent based transactions.
Add these to Linux (don't forget HURD), BSD, Inferno, Plan 9, the traditional UNIXs, and of course the Windows family there are almost too many choices.
All we need now is for Palm & Microsoft to joint the open source crowd.
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More OS'
Don't forget that QNX will release RTP on Monday, and Sun has released Solaris on both Sparc & Intel platforms (and source too).
Additionally Nortel has released FIPA-OS for agent based transactions.
Add these to Linux (don't forget HURD), BSD, Inferno, Plan 9, the traditional UNIXs, and of course the Windows family there are almost too many choices.
All we need now is for Palm & Microsoft to joint the open source crowd.
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Java3D
Do it! Use Java3D, it even gets hardware-accelerated on some platforms...
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Sun already pretty strong on the lowish-end, but..In the last quarter, Sun sold about 100,000 servers total. Not bad going - that's PC volumes.
The embedded server market is really taking off, and Sun have been developing several things in this area for many years. I remember reading last week that they're expected to announce quite a few embedded/applicance server things in the coming months, and I guess this is one of them.
Here's an interesting quote from the PR:
- ``Today we're acquiring Cobalt to establish ourselves in low-end server appliances and immediately jump into the marketplace with a proven, world class product offering. This move is similar to our entry into the high-end server arena, which we did through our acquisition of Starfire server technology from Cray. Just as that product line has become one of our most successful product lines to date, we think the demand for these high-volume, turnkey devices will explode in the next couple of years. Cobalt is our bet for the future,'' said Ed Zander, President and Chief Operating Officer, Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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Poor javadocI find it kind of ironic that this question is asked in connection with Java software. The specifications for both Java and Java 2 include conventions for software metadata: Javadoc comments. These do not support all the information Tagish wants to record, but they do support a lot of it. You can argue that Javadoc is for APIs, not for programs -- but in the Java world, a program is just a class that's meant to be called from a command line launcher.
Perhaps people find the Javadoc Conventions to be just a little confusing?
(Anybody who knows me knows I have a personal bias on things Javadoc. Probably not worth discussing on Slashdot. I mention it just to keep myself honest.)
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Re:One example of a website without Java.A couple of years ago, Java was still very much in its infancy. Besides that, it's well-known that Java support in both major browsers sucked then and sucks now, hence the Java plug-in. Not that it's much better, but for different reasons (memory use, hassle, etc.). At least it's complete and pretty consistent; in any case it's the responsibility of the browser vendor to make sure its particular version of the JVM runs in a sandbox.
As I said before, JavaScript has little or no relationship to Java, and in browsers it's implemented by the browser vendor, so you can't really blame any security holes for JavaScript on Sun or Java.
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oooh, big bad sun
you can no longer download this program at all anymore.
And I quote:
How Do I Get the Network Driver Porting Kit?
The Network Driver Porting Kit is not currently available to download. Please check back periodically for availability. -
Sun's porting KitGo to http://www.sun.com/solaris/ndpkit.html.
They stopped distribution of the kit.
"The Network Driver Porting Kit is not currently available to download. Please check back periodically for availability."
From what I'm reading I don't see any violation of GPL, nor do I see any loophole. It seems to me that the person distributing only binary Solaris drivers is responsible for the violation of GPL not Sun.
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Re:Excellent- WHAT?Ever used a Sun? They're nice boxes. Nice doesn't come cheap.
But I agree with the sentiment. Every large corporation is money-grubbing. Sun and Oracle are just as bad as Microsoft , and if they were in Microsoft's position, would conduct the same unfair business practices. But since they're not monopolies (yet), they have no qualms about taking cheap shots at Redmond.
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Sounds a lot like Sunhelp.orgA while back, Sun Microsystems went after the well-known and loved site sunhelp.org because if it's own rumor page. The guy running the site had to eventually remove the rumors in a deal with Sun.
Oddly, I contributed that story, but no one ever mentioned it on Slashdot.
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Prices out of control
One of the reasons that i decided to use Linux as my primary OS was when I started to research how much it would cost me to get some decent software. The corporate powers have really gotten out of hand in how much that they charge for software. Just ask anybody who wants to get a copy of MSOffice. (Go S tarOffice!) Also of concern is the price of fun software such as Adobe Photoshop, or animatek's worldbuilder.
What is the software industry trying to pull? Sure there are many people out there who have the money to buy this stuff, but how many times would sales (and therefore profits) increase if you could get cool stuff like that for only about US$100? -
Re:Microsoft Research rocks!
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Re:Betas and Building a Better BSD
If you want Linux and the various *nix clones to be accepted by the public as a serious force instead of the domain of cloistered geeks, you want to do something to make it visible. KDE and Gnome are okay interfaces, but they're only distributed as far as Linux is. Here's a manufacturer of hardware AND software bundling everything together -- OS, drivers, and front end -- and giving the whole thing visibility.
Not entirely... Sun is getting pretty heavily behind Gnome. Or, at least, so they say. From the whitepaper: "When GNOME ships with the Solaris Operating Environment, Sun will offer the same support as it does today for CDE." The only catch is that they're talking about Gnome 2.0, and Sun is expecting this addition to happen somewhere around 3Q01..
I hope it works out, since 1-I hate CDE and 2-The 1.x product is pretty sweet on Sol7, and from what I've seen so far, a lot of it works pretty well.
If you want to pooh-pooh Apple just becuase they 'suck,' then you might be doing the *nix community a disservice. Because most people, if they turn away from Apple for whatever reason, tend to think Microsoft first, not Linux.
Agreed - "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."