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I'm a little surprised no one has mentioned Operation Mockingbird a CIA program to manipulate the narrative in the media. Last report in 2015 it is still operational and in 2016 was legalized.

I thought everybody knew about this considering how sadly obvious the "mockingbirds" are on /. to manipulate and moderate the conversation here, mostly ACs, but some with pseudonyms.

I'm a little surprised no one has mentioned Operation Mockingbird a CIA program to manipulate the narrative in the media. Last report in 2015 it is still operational and in 2016 was legalized.

I thought everybody knew about this considering how sadly obvious the "mockingbirds" are on /. to manipulate and moderate the conversation here, mostly ACs, but some with pseudonyms.

Everyone in prison must have a trial, often before a jury. If people want to see this system short circuited then demand everyone be put before a jury.

Sure, except everyone in prison awaiting trial and everyone in prison after a trial was bypassed by plea bargaining. So, according to this result of my quick search, maybe 5% of people in prison have had a trial. After you first convince the citizenry to pay for 19 times more due process, then try and sell me your other ideas.

It's great, we can now deliberately breed stupid people to fill the ranks of the police ...
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/court-police-departments-refuse-hire-smart/

Can you blame kids for not wanting to go outdoors when they are in serious danger of being shot by the police for walking down the street?
http://thefreethoughtproject.c...

And it has been proven time and again, through statistics and police testing, that police are far less likely to shoot a black man than a white man, all else held equal.

It has been proven time and again that all else is not held equal. The police are for example more commonly deployed to harass people in black neighborhoods. They're more likely to encounter a black man.

Additionally the rate of police shootings have been plummeting over the last decades.

How would you know when the statistics are deliberate lies?

There are plenty of idiots who think otherwise, though.

http://thefreethoughtproject.c...

I'll see your bet sir, and raise you a brownie point. http://thefreethoughtproject.c...

Here's CNN telling us that it's illegal for us to read wikileaks, and that we must only receive their interpretation of it.

Or if you don't like that one, you can google any combination of "CNN Fake news" or "CNN discredited" or NBC / MSNBC / pick your choice.

>The timeline is that she was investigeated for Benghazi, and while being investigated, noticed improper emails. She wipes the improper emails, then later there's an investigation into the improper emails. The "evidence" was already destroyed, back before it was evidence.

The evidence was wiped after the state department asked for her emails:

âoeWe learned today, from her attorney, Secretary Clinton unilaterally decided to wipe her server clean and permanently delete all emails from her personal server,â he continued. âoeWhile it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the Department.â (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/416125/hillary-clinton-defies-subpoena-wiped-her-server-clean-joel-gehrke)

And then after they found an archive of the emails after the subpeona, illegally destroyed the evidence AFTER it was evidence:

"On March 4, 2015, the House subpoenaed all emails from Clintonâ(TM)s personal servers, including a document preservation order.

PRN staff member X had a âoeconference call with President Clintonâ(TM)s staffâ on March 25, 2015, after which â" sometime between March 25th and 31st â" âoehe had an âoh shitâ(TM) moment,â when he realized he had forgotten to wipe clean the PRN server as he had been instructed to do by Mills in December 2014.

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At some point during those six days, PRN wiped the server clean using BleachBit â" despite the subpoena from the House earlier in the same month.

In fact, PRN staff member X admitted to deleting the remaining emails despite being âoeaware of the existence of the preservation request and the fact that it meant he should not disturb Clintonâ(TM)s e-mail data on the PRN server.â" (http://thedailycoin.org/2016/09/04/clinton-email-server-wiped-after-her-subpoena/)

This is direct destruction of evidence and obstruction of justice, so naturally the FBI gave immunity deals to the people responsible, who then turned around and say Hill Dawg had nothing to do with it. It is fantastic (and I don't mean that in the good sense) how this investigation was conducted.

The Supreme Court might help with some of it -- they ruled the government needs warrants to listen in on your phone calls, even though it passes through the hands of third parties because, among other things, The People have an expectation of privacy.

I wouldn't count on the Supreme Court to help with the 4th Amendment. They seem to get more wrong these days than they get right.

It is actually worse then that. The article mentions:

Liberty Reserve fell into the U.S. government's sights, because it ran such a huge operation without oversight. In the post-9/11 world, law enforcement was keen to keep track of every dollar to avoid it ending up funding terrorists.

The US government is the biggest hypocrite; they themselves have become terrorists, having directly and indirectly funded ISIS:

* http://www.newsweek.com/2014/1...
* https://www.quora.com/Is-it-tr...
* http://thefreethoughtproject.c...

Maybe this is part of the reason BitCoin creator's Satoshi Nakamoto won't publicly come forward? He doesn't want to get charged with "domestic terrorism" (sic.)

the FBI has what it needs to unlock this phone any time it wants.

It just wants to make a big deal out of it to justify legislation.

Municipalities Profit from poverty through excessive court fees

Texas judge blows lid on speeding ticket racket

Policing and Profit

It's a modern day debtors penal system. If you're poor, the cops and courts keep fucking you over so that you never get off the court fee/fine merry-go-round. That's the system you're supporting and the "fools" complain about.

It doesn't take millions of self-righteous privileged white liberals in Boston or DC to fix the problems in Ferguson,

Really? Local problems fix themselves? Is that why we have the fourteenth amendment? I think it does take self-righteous privileged white liberals in DC to fix the problems in Ferguson. They're called congress. And they need to take action to rein in the police, who are abusing and executing citizens on a regular basis. They will kill you for a pen, they will attempt "false flag" operations and then attack protesters when they are discovered, they will shoot you in the back, they will get away with serial rape... The problems are endemic and wishing will not make them go away. We need citizen's police review boards with teeth everywhere that we have cops. They need the power to fire with prejudice, and they need it now. Police Unions are helping the police murder, rape, and enslave us. It is difficult to imagine a solution to this problem that does not include action from the federal government.

It doesn't take millions of self-righteous privileged white liberals in Boston or DC to fix the problems in Ferguson,

Really? Local problems fix themselves? Is that why we have the fourteenth amendment? I think it does take self-righteous privileged white liberals in DC to fix the problems in Ferguson. They're called congress. And they need to take action to rein in the police, who are abusing and executing citizens on a regular basis. They will kill you for a pen, they will attempt "false flag" operations and then attack protesters when they are discovered, they will shoot you in the back, they will get away with serial rape... The problems are endemic and wishing will not make them go away. We need citizen's police review boards with teeth everywhere that we have cops. They need the power to fire with prejudice, and they need it now. Police Unions are helping the police murder, rape, and enslave us. It is difficult to imagine a solution to this problem that does not include action from the federal government.

It doesn't take millions of self-righteous privileged white liberals in Boston or DC to fix the problems in Ferguson,

Really? Local problems fix themselves? Is that why we have the fourteenth amendment? I think it does take self-righteous privileged white liberals in DC to fix the problems in Ferguson. They're called congress. And they need to take action to rein in the police, who are abusing and executing citizens on a regular basis. They will kill you for a pen, they will attempt "false flag" operations and then attack protesters when they are discovered, they will shoot you in the back, they will get away with serial rape... The problems are endemic and wishing will not make them go away. We need citizen's police review boards with teeth everywhere that we have cops. They need the power to fire with prejudice, and they need it now. Police Unions are helping the police murder, rape, and enslave us. It is difficult to imagine a solution to this problem that does not include action from the federal government.

that's why they've made up parallel construction.

http://thefreethoughtproject.c...

It's way past time that we encrypt and obfuscate all communication.

Of course the big metal-wrapped bumpers, the word POLICE emblazoned across the back, a uniformed person inside wearing a gun, and an obscene amount of bright flashing lights mounted all over the outside of the car are all examples of urban camouflage intended to conceal their location, right?

... that you won't see until after they've used radar to measure your speed, at which point it's too late to slow down if you were speeding.

The cops are just annoyed that such apps may make their speed traps less effective. Understand that speeding is a huge source of revenue for local and state governments, so the politicians at that level put a lot of pressure on the cops to keep those tickets flowing. It's not unreasonable to say that many local/state budgets would break without this revenue. Ironically, speed in and of itself is almost never a cause of accidents. Accidents are caused by things like failing to yield, drunk driving, and following too closely, but then I digress.

The bullshit about "putting officers' lives in danger" is just propaganda. It's designed to portray the police and anything they desire as the Good Guys (TM), and anyone obstructing their revenue-generation activities as the Bad Guys (TM). It's standard PR practice. The reality is, no one wants to fuck with the cops. They're the very last choice of target for psychos looking to do violence. In fact, posing a threat to them is a recognized suicide method, as an AC pointed out earlier. What's not so well known is that police work is not even in the top ten most dangerous jobs. So yes, this excuse of theirs is just more authoritarian bullshit. No one acquainted with the facts would believe it.

I too am very interested in your closely held Canadian secret to recovering from death in such a short time period. In the rest of the world we haven't even figured out how to recover from death *at all*, let alone in weeks or months like you claim is possible.

Stating that swatting isn't a big deal falls flat on both ends of the argument.

In 2008 an investigation into no-knock swat raids showed that 80% of such raids in the previous 10 years were based on factually wrong information. Of the 146 no-knock raids during that year, only 49 or about 33% resulted in any charges what so ever, and of those 49 only 2 (TWO) resulted in a conviction and prison time.

Of those two, one was due to the officers finding 50 grams of weed in the swatting victims home, while the original charges were that the person had shot hostages.
The other of those two was the famous Marvin Louis Guy case, who is in prison for shoot three of the swat officers who invaded his home and shot at him and his wife first.
The prosecution has sought the death penalty against him and is still on death row to this day.

You are essentially saying that 16 months of jail time is TOO MUCH for being directly responsible for at least 23 instances of attempted murder.
Being the direct cause of having loaded weapons pointed directly at another human being who did no harm or crime to anyone, where only the purest of chances resulted in missing, is something that should not be taken lightly.

http://reason.com/archives/200...
http://thefreethoughtproject.c...
http://xbradtc.com/2014/08/08/...
https://www.google.com/search?...

Seems to average somewhere around 3

I don't have easy access to the raw stats, so here's some relevant news stories that do quote some stats. I doubt that the stats are cherry-picked as there's such a clear difference between the US and the rest of the world:

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2014/08/armed-police/
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-do-us-police-kill-so-many-people-2014-8/
http://mic.com/articles/105036/here-s-the-shocking-tally-of-how-many-americans-die-from-police-shootings/

Cops are more than four times more likely than ordinary citizens to shoot someone who doesn't deserve it in any given armed altercation and kill citizens at 70 times the rate of other first-world nations, but we still let them carry guns. Sadly, most cops don't train nearly enough — many departments literally have a single monthly firearms training day, or less — so the truth is that the average gun-toting citizen is actually better at putting rounds on target than the average cop. The kind of citizens who carry firearms are also the kind of people who take them to the range regularly.

If you don't want bystanders injured by stray gunfire, or for that matter rounds deliberately fired at undeserving targets, then take the guns away from the cops. Taking them away from responsible citizens won't help.

Tax payers don't like to pay taxes and as a consequence we do not require college degrees for cops. The consequence is that we end up with some pretty primitive personalities working as cops.

No, the reason we don't have more cops with degrees (although there are plenty out there) isn't because of money, it's because the departments *want* to hire cops that are just a bit above average, but no more. It's because we don't want them to get bored with the work, or worse, start thinking critically about some of the stuff they do:

For example if they shoot a suspect one time should they really be trained to keep shooting until the subject is down and not moving at all?

Yes, absolutely. You shoot until the threat is eliminated.

Well there are rules unions and other legal precedents. Police officers are not "at will" employees.

However by any reasonable standard an officer who commits extreme misconduct (falsifying evidence to hide their own culpability) that officer should be fired and charged with a crime. Unfortunately an unreasonable standard has become the de-facto standard at least in many big cities (I have no idea how widespread this is)

Apparently good cops are victims as much as innocent citizens when the police force is corrupt: http://thefreethoughtproject.c...

The mentality and intelligence level of the officers is screened to fit a certain profile. Perhaps that profile is the issue.

Link: http://thefreethoughtproject.c...

If you're black. White people can bring semi auto rifles into Walmart and the police don't give a fuck.

It's not about race, it's about attitude. If you are friendly and polite people assume you are there to help them. If you are dour and moody, people assume you are there to hurt them.

No. It is about race, in a significant number of cases. Just look at the statistics of people open carrying (or people getting shot at). Hell, just look at the statistics of how people are treated by "the law" per race where some groups *get harsher* penalties for the same goddamned crime.

And since we are on John Crawford's case (RIP), let's look at the Walmart video just released:

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-video-finally-released-cops-shooting-man-toy-gun-wal-mart/

In the specific case of John Crawford (RIP), the poor guy that got shot down while carrying a toy gun to the cash register, he didn't do anything of the above in bold. Nothing in his fucking attitude indicated he was a treat.

The, OTH, you have white militia pointing rifles at federal agents at the Cliven Bundy stand-off on April 2014, with photographs clearly identifying those threatening federal agents with deadly force, and have you seen any one of them arrested?

Crawford might or might not have been shot at the way was due to his race, but there is a clear distinction in attitude and partial/subjective enforcement of the law that still crosses racial lines (Militia at the Bundy's ranch for example.)

Somewhere somehow someone slowly turned travel to be a privilege, which the Executive can withdraw at a whim. It ought to be explicitly declared a right, which only the Judiciary can suspend — after a trial.

And it is not just airtravel — under Obama, Bush-created TSA are expanding their "jurisdiction" over all other mass transit, nor can you drive a personal car without the government's permission (driver's license). And having somebody else drive you without a government's permission is troublesome too.

You could get statistics by scrapping this page list of British police officers killed in the line of duty. I think it is roughly 71/248 or about 30%. I would not be surprised if the GP was correct and the percentage of British police officers killed by guns is greater than the percentage of US police officers. This could be due to the fact that British police don't have guns.

But the percentages are terribly misleading if you don't look at the absolute numbers or per capita numbers. In the US, 500 people per year are killed by the police while in Britain only 30 people total have been killed by the police (up until 2005). Since Britain has 1/5th the population of the US, the total (over all years) per capita number of people killed in Britain by police is less than 1/3rd of the per capita killed in the US every year.

Over 100 US police officers are killed in the line of duty each year while according to the page linked to above, the number of British police officers killed in the line of duty is 2 per year (this century). So on a per capita basis ten times as many US police officers get killed on duty than British police officers. If, as the GP states, roughly 30% of US police deaths on duty are due to firearms then it is 10 times more likely for a person in the US to gun down a police officer than someone in Britain.

Whatever the exact numbers are, it is clear that the amount of police related gun violence in Britain is drastically lower than police related gun violence in the US on a per capita basis.