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unless you have some kind of payper liesense paid dupe.

va.msn.?net? (VAST)? i DOWt it.

how much is that whoredoggIE in the windose? the won....

whipped up buy those massturds of deception, appearing all over the www.

tell 'em robbIE.

got to keep their feet to the fire up over there on the pacific crest annex of whale street of deceit, 'else j. might get dragged back into that bullshipping cesspool, due to some media induced greed/fear hypenosys.

va.msn.?n0t? yet, ticker (VAST)

is the ?net? still running slow/under attack? best not talk about IT here.

whois the won who thinks that these fauxking frauds give a fud about US? they are promoting/encouraging (selling) mad virotic spammer liesenses to unsuspecting recipIEnts. that's even more whoreabull than the bandwidth eating shoddiness of the corewreckedead payper liesense BugWear(tm).--

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HERE, & there, buy Godless phonIE payper liesense peddling whoredoggIEs, from the fuddles&fudstorm annex of the evile kingdumb. EVERie daze, for OVER 4 years now. EVERY day, ALL day. the chaNT gooes on: "fud is gooed, nothing else matters". all day, EVERY DAY. that's just on the NYT(TMp). yuk.

billwg - 10:00pm Jan 27, 2003 EST (# 6195 of 6200)

So you are saying the Office API's design is inherently insecure?

I am saying that the Office API's design is inherently open to anyone who wants to use it to customize their personal use of MS Office. That allows them or their chosen supplier(s) to make calls that can automatically e-mail information to preset addresses or lists. If the user is tricked into running a rogue program, the rogue program will have access to the same APIs and that is the mechanism that the script hackers use to send these mis-named viruses through the e-mail network. They are really mail bombs that do something destructive when inadvertently run by the unaware user.

I think that the APIs are useful things that cannot be secured without losing their utility. What do you think should be done about that? Curse Microsoft for providing them in the first place? That seems to be the choice of the anti-MS crowd, but they are gaggling geese with little to recommend them.

With that number in mind, it should be clear why linux is eating Unix' lunch first. One, MS doesn't get that lunch. Two... by the time linux is done with that it will be an 8000 lb gorrilla. MS's air supply will be in jeapordy.

Amusing, if you have little taste and less alternatives, but if you check the financials, MSFT doesn't seem to be missing any lunch at all. The total annual inventory of the Linux food hamper is about 1/10 th of a single day's ration for Mr. Softee and that may very well be less than what they throw to the pigeons for their own amusment. A gorilla would surely starve on such a ration. It seems as if the European versions of the linux monkey have already been reduced to mostly skin and bone and are in the processes of checking out of the game.

If Linux on Intel can do what people are using Solaris on Sparc to do, for a tenth the cost (literally!), excuse me, but Linux is SUPPOSED to win! If I miss Solaris (and I will), that's secondary.

Surely that cannot be the case! But if it were, what reason would anyone have for not selecting Windows more often than even now? What is it that people think needs doing that Windows doesn't already do?

since maybe 20% of the people have taken it upon themselves to use Linux or Max OS X.

Who are "the people"? One out of 5 at your company? In the real world, it's more like 1 out of 100 (if we accept the Google count) or 1 out of 400 (wherever that click site is). Linux can grow to 1 out of 10 and not really affect Microsoft's business. Certainly even I don't expect Microsoft Windows to have it ALL. But Microsoft vs whatever's in second place (currently Macintosh OS9) is an incredibly strong winner.

Why my feeling of relief and predicting MS's demise. Clearly I may be wrong over all. But the feeling of confidence comes from the fact that Linux has checked Windows encrouchment on the server.

Where has that happened? Last count MS was actually growing faster in absolute (unit) terms than Unix/Linux although their percentage is swamped by their already high share. I would rather think that such a sharp decline in available case, which translates into layoffs for the Unix developers at Sun and such, which translates into less of an inclination to help out the open source cause and more of an inclination to find a new job, would weaken the future capabilty of linux to match the continuing evolution of Windows.

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to read moron ?dr? weisgerber's ?work?:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=U TF -8&q=microsoft+%22bill+weisgerber%22&btnG=Google+S earch

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lookout bullow. the WINds of (small) change are howling at the gates, again.

cullaming end use deficit, that's fresh.

"``It was a vulnerability. We knew about it, but someone is exploiting it,'' Charney told Reuters, ``We want our customers to be as secure as possible and install the patches.''

In the worst widespread Web attack in a year and a half, the worm clogged network pipelines around the globe, nearly shutting down Internet providers in South Korea, disrupting a majority of Bank of America Corp.'s automatic teller machines and made online surfing and e-mail access difficult.

A key component of the SQL Server software, called ``Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Desktop Engine,'' is particularly vulnerable to the malicious computer worm, which quickly propagates itself and seeks out other systems to infect.

Since MSDE is deployed not only in SQL software but in other programs used for software development, such as Visual Studio .NET and Office XP Developer Edition, it could spread beyond the database servers, Charney said.

``The unfortunate thing about this is when you know that this was a problem and they (customers) hadn't updated,'' Charney said, ``That's a bit frustrating.''

Charney was hired by Microsoft nearly a year ago, just when Chairman and co-founder Bill Gates issued a mandate that the company focus on ``Trustworthy Computing,'' a campaign aimed at making its software more protected, secure and reliable.

Charney said Saturday's attack ``showed how relevant that policy was.''

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mod US DOWn robbIE, the kingdumb kneads yOUR help AGAIN?

if you look which weigh the monIE weNT, ucann see why lairIE/robbIE might have soul doubt.

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no need to worry about vandalous script cracks, until you're sure of whois yOUR daddIE?

talk about server FUDging. you can't even say fud sucks, if you use the phonIE payper liesense, hostage ransom, stock markup FUDging, BugWear(tm), from the evile kingdumb, 'else you can be deleted buy the weekid naykid furor's ?pr? minions.

look out bullow. run for your options should you have any left.

ever wonder why they NEVER say the L word on network tv? probaly not?

what a bunch of phonIE pennIE aNTe shills this blog's become. yuk.

see what happens when you trade yOUR genuine support, for a few worth less billyuns?

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everybodIEs going to pretend that the FUDged #'s, all match up, again today? i DOWt it. not everybody.

some of the Godless larcenious FUDgeSuckers(tm), may be checking yOUR liesense .compliance status right now, 'suggesting' (-1) that you not read anything that says that the ill eagle kingdumb is dissolving into coolapps.

chips my .asp. many are saying that hanging's way to good for some of those felonious skalywags.

as we know, none of this is topical for /. dough, as they only advertise onLIEn for the Godless pickpockets, so they're innoceNT, until delisted.

accouNTing we will (continue) to goo.

Staff of S.E.C. Is Said to Dilute Rule Changes
By STEPHEN LABATON with JONATHAN D. GLATER

WASHINGTON, Jan. 21 -- The staff of the Securities and Exchange Commission plans to recommend that the agency soften proposed rules that would impose new obligations on lawyers and accountants, government officials said today.

After an onslaught of lobbying, the commission will complete work this week on regulatory proposals that were required under a law passed by Congress nearly six months ago to address a spate of corporate scandals.

Earlier proposals had been intended to instill investor confidence by imposing the new regulations. The rules would have required corporate lawyers, for instance, to report to regulators if they failed to persuade managers to fix potential securities law violations. The proposals would also have restricted accountants from auditing the same tax shelters they created. And corporations would have been required to spell out in more precise detail how much they paid their accounting firms for auditing and consulting services

But some of the toughest proposals appear to be dead, watered down or postponed, S.E.C. officials said today. Critics attributed the shift to heavy lobbying from prominent law firms, bar associations and some leading accounting firms and trade groups.

"This is very disappointing," said Lynn Turner, a former chief accountant at the commission during the Clinton administration who is now a professor of accounting at Colorado State University. "We've had Enron, Tyco, WorldCom. We've had the most tumultuous year ever in corporate America. And despite all of that, the commission is softening, rather than toughening, the rules in favor of the attorneys and auditors to the great detriment of investors. To me, it's just amazing."

Officials said the provisions had been changed from earlier drafts after meetings with the commissioners, including Harvey L. Pitt, who has remained as chairman of the agency more than two months after announcing his resignation. Last month, President Bush announced his selection of William H. Donaldson to succeed Mr. Pitt, but Mr. Donaldson has yet to be nominated formally for the post.

Mr. Pitt played an active role in drafting the new rules. Before his resignation, he was the subject of intense criticism from members of Congress, who said his actions suggested that he remained too close to his former clients in the accounting business.

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you go george, harvIE, robbIE, lairIE,... kevin? you are the wonz, areN'T you? pay attention J., that doesn't cost much.

bonepickers take heart, sooner or later, the truth about almost everything, comes out, on the 'net.

reads more LIEk some threat from va.msn.?net?, sticker: (VAST)

we agree that mannerly discussion between the picker, & pickIE, is usually a preferrable alternative, to the deependance of litigation. fud on though. eveNTually, everybody will go away. whiners, braggards, touts, shills, thieves, hobbyists. all of them.

.committing high treason, etc....

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those of US who bet on the good gnus, are getting REAL dividends NOW.

foems list.

don't mention the pateNTdead bullshipping fraud peddlers, from upon the pacific crest., or the equally pateNTdead PostBlock(tm, va lairIE et AL) devise, or you'll be .aspersed into trolldumb........, forever?

va.msn.?net? (VAST)

what do any of US get from IT? a hole bunch more scamoanioUS come-ons, buy frauduleNT stock markup felons, that's what?

let the phonIE payper priNTing begin.

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whois this guise 'servers'/ideNTitIE?

billwg - 04:00pm Mar 30, 2002 EST (#759 of 762)

BTW, what has Ramond and Stallings and Torvalds done for the world lately?

Regardless of the chants of the unwashed linuxers, this MS Office system works pretty well and all of the large companies have become dependent on it and many require that their suppliers accomodate it with forms of their own. Some smurf twitching around alone with StarOffice may be able to avoid using MS Office, but no big account is going to be able to do it. It seems to me that all the hot stuff in linux is just making it work like Windows. That doesn't seem to be necessary, since we've got such a fine version of Windows already and don't really need another one!

if uncle sam et AL can 'see' fuddle's saycrud kode blew virot, what about the rest of US?

speaking for most of US, who needs that whoreabull, tied to stock markup fraud, bugwear? we sure don't. yuk.

tell 'em robbIE. if va lairIE goes mammon up, does fuddles get the saycrud kode of the legendarIE forgerIE? & the mad koders get,,,???,,, shIEt? NO, not AGAIN? say IT isN'T sewn, or about to be reaped.

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By Ted Bridis, Associated Press Writer
Music, Technology Groups Agree on Copyright Plans for Movies, Music Without Government Help

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The leading trade associations for the music and technology industries, which have been at loggerheads over consumers downloading songs on the Internet, have negotiated a compromise they contend will protect copyrights on movies and music without new government involvement.

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Lobbyists for some of the nation's largest technology companies will argue under the new agreement against efforts in Congress to amend U.S. laws to broaden the rights of consumers, such as explicitly permitting viewers to make backup copies of DVDs for personal use or copy songs onto handheld listening devices.

"How companies satisfy consumer expectations is a business decision that should be driven by the dynamics of the marketplace and should not be legislated and regulated," the agreement said, according to one person who read parts of it to The Associated Press.

These companies, including Microsoft Corp., IBM, Intel Corp. and Dell Computer Corp., also will announce support for aggressive enforcement against digital pirates.

In exchange, the Recording Industry Association of America will argue against government requirements to build locking controls into future generations of entertainment devices to make it more difficult for consumers to share music and movies. Technology companies have complained that the controls are too expensive and complex.

no wonder robbIE/lairIE's been rumoured to be priNTing sheets of va.msn.?net?, ticker: (VAST)?

in the 'next' election, should there be a need for won, uid knead to be .connectdead buy va.msn.?net? (VAST), in ordered to be abull to 'vote'. then, after much whirring, george et AL, would be re-'elected' buy a LANdsLIEde.

meanwhile, the 'news', would cullame yet another great victorIE, knot only for US, but for yOUR legacIE.

there's still good gnus, but no mention of IT here.

buy the time J. get's his head out of bill's .asp, his pockets (& all other form of asset/identity) will be picked, for years to come.

to the troll bucket with you. the topic is........wIE-Fie, you moron, not stock markup fraud. that's NEVER the topic. you know that we (see also: robbIE's frIEnds list) don't/like to, think about that stuff, as it has NO bearing on US?

you must be on robbIE's foems list. if not, you should be.

&, for your information, there is no, va.msn.?net?, ticker: (VAST) yet.

what we have here, is a non-soluable bullend of sum of the fineassed poteNTshill since PT barnham.

sure, you can log on from almost anywhere now, but then what?

more&more disgusting 1/2 page bummer ads for disgusting softwar gangster stock markup frauds?

a little nonsensical chatter about directorIEs, gadgets, games, etc......?

you could just keep voting with yOUR wallets. that seems to have a measurabull affect.

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amicus_curious - 09:40pm Jan 13, 2003 EST

"The word is now passed that Microsoft Corporation has settled the California class action suit, which is from all reports the largest of the still-pending actions, for a shocking $1.1B aggregate payout to Windows customers who purchased Windows client OS versions as part of a pre-loaded computer package in the class period. The awards are for $5 to $29 per computer purchased, depending on the year and Windows version preloaded.

Any unclaimed funds will go to the California school system and vouchers may be used to purchase Microsoft or other vendor hardware or software products. Perhaps it even extends to purchase of a Red Hat T-shirt.

This settlement seems to be a surrender by Microsoft to the vast horde of opportunists queuing up to have a go at their treasury, but may only be a retreat to a more tenable position. California, it seems, has a state law that allows a person to sue the supplier of a direct supplier whereas the Federal laws and most other state laws do not allow this and so require that the plaintiff have some direct privity to the defendant in such cases. Many cases have already been adjudicated in favor of Microsoft due to the plaintiff's inability to show any such privity.

While massive, the settlement becomes but 20 cents per common share to the Microsoft stockholders and even that would be mitigated by the rebate of the Federal and State tax liabilities of 35% and 8.84% respectively. It is rather ironic that California itself thereby loses some 100 million dollars or so of assigned corporate income tax based on this action. That just goes to show that the adage of every cloud having a silver lining is truer than false. Even the remaining 12 cents or so per share seems insignificant to the daily moves of the Microsoft stock price which was about a half dollar to the good this very day.

The real tests are yet to come, with the promised appeal by Microsoft of the nonsensical injunction in re Sun Microsystems Java suit and the consolidated class actions in the Maryland district courtroom of the same Judge Motz who has spoken of breaking kneecaps and the like in conjunction with Microsoft's actions in the Sun case."(NYT)

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from up on wall street of deceit. screw them scurvy ba$tards. most say that hangin's way too good for the Godless hucksters.

most of US, will be much better off, if they're allowed to sink into the tarpits, without interveNTion from yOUR fuderal gov't...

help put an end to stock markup accouNTing (we will go) frauds, continue to vote with yOUR wallet.

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tell 'em robbIE.

larcenious payper liesense stock markup frauds.

they should @leased be given the dead rat, & be barred from 'buying' decaying blogs, so as to suck the visions from the last few pairannoyed eyes.

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"In light of what has happened since, it's hardly more than a footnote. When the news of the Standard's (you can substitute the moniker of *.con here) bankruptcy in August 2001 hit the media world, yes, it was startling. But that was before Sept. 11, before Enron, before WorldCom, before the public embarrassment of Wall Street's most famous stock analysts or such crimes against nature as Harvey Pitt's appointment as SEC chairman. Today, less than two years after the Standard's demise, "The Short, Absurd Life of the Industry Standard" (as the subtitle to Ledbetter's book reads) has lost much of its ability to shock. It's as if Oedipus was revealed to be a used car salesman forced by a malign destiny to drive one of his own clunkers. Big deal. At the end, the Standard was a badly run business that published competent stories about a great many badly run businesses. There's nothing to see in these entrails except a mess."

well, there's: va.msn.?net?, ticker: (VAST)?, but that's not saying much. another daze to bet your .asp on some phonIE FUDgePackers from upon the pacific crest?

maybe the girls are waiting 'til IT's N0T such a cesspool DOWn here?

hangin's too good for those scurvy ba$tards upon wall street of deceit.. it'll be a warm day in finland before they get any more trickle DOWn from US, up on the pacific crest, right robbIE? tell 'em.

why, we wouldn't buy into any more payper liesense, billonlyUS stock markup fraud, if they tickled all over US.

you can bet your .asp, if you waNT to, but don't come crying to US, when nothing trickles DOWn.

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on the prize, of your eyes.

if va lairy's payper goes pottIEer, does fuddles get the saycrud kode of the forge(ry)? or, will robbIE zap it back into cybearia, in a last gasp attempt to rescue his soul? stay tuned......

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The "laws" of both math, & physics were rescinded again today. as many stare in disbelief, the twice deceased/re-incarnated multiply indicted frauduleNTly acclaimed, wall street of deceit, "bull", ?rose? yet again today, in effect abolishing vaporious cullames of the existence of mathematics, physics, & yes, even God, all, with a click of the BiG mouse.

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you know what to do J., robbIE. tell 'em.

IEaaaggghhh !@#$%

enough with all the Godless corepirate payper liesense stock markup fudgepacking already. /.'s going on my foems list right away.

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get the bots honIE, we're going out to McFuddles for some hot vdo nutrition.

kewl, are we also going to stop buy va.msn.?net?, ticker: (VAST), to see how our billyuns are pIEling up?

kewl, then we'll come back & watch tomorrow's scheduled ACTivitIEs.

rrrr, rrrrr, rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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kewl, you & the bots wIEght here, & i'll go mortgage our future, again?. this is so kewl. so much clicking.

rrrrr, rrrrrrrr, rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

ALERT (from mspourtoll.con): thank you for renewing your payper liesense(tm), we appreciate your patronage.

you vehicle is curreNTly unable to start itself, due to some faultless server kaflups, over at va.bot.controll. if you would be so kind as to return to your hovel, you will be informed as to when your ground relocation eveNT, will be scheduled, as the servers begin to come back online. thanks again so much for your patronage.

to avoid such inconvenIEnces in the ?future? those whose accouNT #'s begin with 1, with be scheduled for ground relocation eveNTs on monday's..................., etc,,.

those whose accouNTs begin with va, or msn, may be eNTitled to unlimitdead use of 'their' vehicles, provided they are in .compliance with their saycrud oath to spew the billonlyUS FUDge of the naykid payper furor. kewl? tell 'em robbIE.

as always, have a gooed won.

get the bots honIE, we're going out to McFuddles for some hot vdo nutrition.

kewl, are we also going to stop buy va.msn.?net?, ticker: (VAST), to see how our billyuns are pIEling up?

kewl, then we'll come back & watch tomorrow's scheduled ACTivitIEs.

rrrr, rrrrr, rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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kewl, you & the bots wIEght here, & i'll go mortgage our future, again?. this is so kewl. so much clicking.

rrrrr, rrrrrrrr, rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

ALERT (from mspourtoll.con): thank you for renewing your payper liesense(tm), we appreciate your patronage.

you vehicle is curreNTly unable to start itself, due to some faultless server kaflups, over at va.bot.controll. if you would be so kind as to return to your hovel, you will be informed as to when your ground relocation eveNT, will be scheduled, as the servers begin to come back online. thanks again so much for your patronage.

to avoid such inconvenIEnces in the ?future? those whose accouNT #'s begin with 1, with be scheduled for ground relocation eveNTs on monday's..................., etc,,.

those whose accouNTs begin with va, or msn, may be eNTitled to unlimitdead use of 'their' vehicles, provided they are in .compliance with their saycrud oath to spew the billonlyUS FUDge of the naykid payper furor. kewl? tell 'em robbIE.

as always, have a gooed won.

L00kout bullow. run for yOUR 'options' robbIE, if you have any left. the FUDge has hit the 'fan' up on the pacific crest.

there'll be more indictmeNTs. you guise only ?thought? IT was a 'game'.

look for va.hp.msn.?net?.WB, ticker: (VASTwab)

good job J., just keep voting with your wallet. these scurvy bastards will eveNTually crawl back into their holes, seeing as there are fewer pockets left to pick. tell 'em robbIE. tell 'em whois calling the ?shots? now.

'only works on windose' my .asp. fauxking shills they are. fauxking greed/fear based stock markup fraud billyunheir whaaannnabes they are.

lookout bullow. run for yOUR 'options' cowIE, if you have any left. the FUDge has hit the 'fan' up on the pacific crest.

there'll be more indictmeNTs. you guise only ?thought? IT was a 'game'.

look for va.hp.msn.?net?, ticker: (VAST)

good job J., just keep voting with your wallet. these scurvy bastards will eveNTually crawl back into their holes, seeing as there are fewer pockets left to pick. tell 'em robbIE. tell 'em whois calling the ?shots? now.

'only works on windose' my .asp. fauxking shills they are. fauxking greed/fear based stock markup fraud billyunheir whaaannnabes they are.

you must get IT buy now?

look for: va.msn.net, ticker: (VAST)?

vast array of payper liesense stock markup FUDgePackers, if you ask US.

fuddle's payper liesense, hostage ranson, stock markup FUDgePacking factorIE.

look for va.msn.net, ticker: (VAST)

va lairy claws, while dressed in a pengwin suit. yikes.

see also: va.msn.net, ticker: (VAST)?

buy the #'s?

see also: payper liesense stock markup FUDge peddlers strike IT ?rich? despite ?hard times? being ?had? buy all?

see also: shrub0nomic profomulahs still used buy stock markup frauds.

see also: bill&art's accelleNT ADventure?

see also: va.msn.net, ticker: (VAST)?

billwg - 04:30pm Jan 3, 2002 EST (#8186 of 8202)

The point to me here is that MS has the means to survive AND be ethical, and chooses not to.

Microsoft seems interested enough in protecting their systems from encroachment by the hackers. Why would you encourage hacking? It seems somewhat akin to mindless vandalism if not a form of terrorism. My own view is that it is necessary to deal harshly with any perpetrators to an almost unconstitutional extreme. If a few are so punished in a very public way, it should give the rest a strong pause and send a clear message that this kind of thing is not going to be tolerated".

fuddles pateNTdead ?pr? response to change.

billwg - 04:30pm Jan 3, 2002 EST (#8186 of 8202)

The point to me here is that MS has the means to survive AND be ethical, and chooses not to.

"Microsoft seems interested enough in protecting their systems from encroachment by the hackers. Why would you encourage hacking? It seems somewhat akin to mindless vandalism if not a form of terrorism. My own view is that it is necessary to deal harshly with any perpetrators to an almost unconstitutional extreme. If a few are so punished in a very public way, it should give the rest a strong pause and send a clear message that this kind of thing is not going to be tolerated."(NYT)

look for va.msn.net, ticker: (VAST)?

some postchords from shillville:
"It's pretty well established that you and the linux crowd are fundamentally cheapskates and intellectual property thieves, but organized boycotts are a flirtation with commercial code violations and can cost you some real bucks! I'm sure Mr. Bill wouldn't bother with you, but there's no telling about Ballmer! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Microsoft is liable for antitrust violations. This was determined by the U.S. courts under Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson and was upheld on appeal. It is therefore a legal fact according to our government, and is akin to a law.

Not very accurate from a legal point of view, but then I know you're trying as hard as you can!

Microsoft illegally used its monopoly position to influence the entire industry, vindictively punishing its competitors with the company's vast financial resources and power.

Not so, according to the DCCCOA. Have you any proof of this?

Many believe that the company has harmed (or destroyed) some of the most innovative companies in recent history, including Apple, Lotus, Corel, Novell, IBM, Netscape and Real -- along with hundreds more.

Well, people are free to believe what they will. Personally, I think that I have been harmed financially by Time-Warner and AOL due to their predatory monopoly on TV cable service in my area. Can I sue?

The Redmond giant has a long history of stifling competitors' superior products through questionable business tactics.

Yeah! They say, "Wouldn't you rather use Windows than that POS Linux?". The penguins say that's unfair because everyone keeps saying "you betcha!" to Mr. Bill and ignores the "superior product" (so they say, anyway) every time. Except for the veebeeboy, who's still on the fence (he says, but I think he's just shilling!).

As the company's market power increased, Microsoft's business tactics became ever more reprehensible.

Yeah! They started offering discounts!

Even today, the quality of Microsoft software rarely [see also; never] matches that of its ?competitors?. The technical merits and security of the Linux operating system, for example, far exceed that of Microsoft's Windows servers."

Oh, well if you say so! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! We need to have an official source of such technical merit decisions, I think! Let's ask somebody! Who shall it be?"(NYT) billwg - 07:19pm Jan 3, 2002 EST (#8192 of 8202)

You feel you have faced the reality that reality doesn't matter and only perceptions do. Look up "superficial" in the dictionary for the remainder of my comment.

You should look up "smug" or "complacent" and possibly understand that your assessment of the technical merits of Unix are quite possibly misplaced as well. People want things that they are satisfied with and that is a complex set of interdependent factors in the case of computer OS platform software. One of the elements is familiarity, to be sure, but there are the others such as fulfilling the need of the user. If Linux or some version of Unix or any other product fit that equation better than Windows, then it would certainly have a much larger following than any of these things do have.

Windows is a personal OS at its core and is intended for a single individual to use to access a wide variety of applications in a consistent way. Unix and its kin were designed for sharing of common hardware and have a lot of built-in blocks for individuals to tread upon one another that Windows does not have and does not need for its own unique purpose. It is little wonder that it appeals ever so much more to the individual user."

tell 'em about the payper robbIE?

about ill eagle payper liesense stock markup FUDgePackers

look for va.msn.net, ticker: (VAST)?

it doesn't hurt a byte?

just try & not get stuck in the fraudulent stock markup payper liesense FUDgePits of Debt(tm).

look for va.msn.net, ticker: (VAST)?

tell 'em robbIE. wIEnIE bouys, sheesh.

the title says it all. tell 'em robbIE.

look for: va.msn.net, ticker: (VAST)?

the rode ahead? looks LIEk it's littered with Godless greed/fear based liesense peddlers, right now.

from up on the pacific crest, as it applies to the future?:

"Despite the hype that the Internet evolved from the Arpanet the reality is that Bill Gates invented the modern day Internet in 1995 when he launched Win 95".

"MS making money in the downturn to me shows that Microsoft's business is not in synch with the real world.

Well maybe it shows that to you, but to me it shows that Microsoft is master of their own fates and well able to steer a profitable course around the pitfalls that have swallowed up others. Oracle and Sun and EMC and Cisco and other darlings of the Unix-fueled .COM era have suffered substantially from their lack of foresight. How can you fault Bill Gates for avoiding the same fate? It seems to me that Microsoft has been most diligent in keeping their business focused on real opportunities rather than on the faddish bubbles that have betrayed the rest.

Uh Oh, there is a Gecko waiting.

In your dreams, craigster! LOL!!! Take a look above and tell me where the linux smerfs are going to ever come up with an end to end solution that can match the Windows servers, SQL, Exchange, SharePoint, Windows client platforms, and MS Office applications, all networked neatly within the .NET framework and extensible down to your backyard thermostat. They can't do it. They can't even come up with a decent client platform distinguished from the server platform. There's no Exchange, there's not even a reasonable SQL that integrates like SQL Server and .NET? ."

lol

from up on the pacific crest, as it applies to the future?:

"Despite the hype that the Internet evolved from the Arpanet the reality is that Bill Gates invented the modern day Internet in 1995 when he launched Win 95".

"MS making money in the downturn to me shows that Microsoft's business is not in synch with the real world.

Well maybe it shows that to you, but to me it shows that Microsoft is master of their own fates and well able to steer a profitable course around the pitfalls that have swallowed up others. Oracle and Sun and EMC and Cisco and other darlings of the Unix-fueled .COM era have suffered substantially from their lack of foresight. How can you fault Bill Gates for avoiding the same fate? It seems to me that Microsoft has been most diligent in keeping their business focused on real opportunities rather than on the faddish bubbles that have betrayed the rest.

Uh Oh, there is a Gecko waiting.

In your dreams, craigster! LOL!!! Take a look above and tell me where the linux smerfs are going to ever come up with an end to end solution that can match the Windows servers, SQL, Exchange, SharePoint, Windows client platforms, and MS Office applications, all networked neatly within the .NET framework and extensible down to your backyard thermostat. They can't do it. They can't even come up with a decent client platform distinguished from the server platform. There's no Exchange, there's not even a reasonable SQL that integrates like SQL Server and .NET?."

lol

will they work/run for "options"? will they be billyuns in debt, before they're out of school? why not? because we're all going to be billyunheirs (again) any daze now?

be careful whois in charge of the "books".

"1) Earnings Management: The first and most important tool Microsoft (see also: the hole mess) uses is the manipulation of ?earnings? to ensure analysts' expectations are met. According to an ABC News 1/22/99 article by Michael Martinez, Microsoft's own internal auditor, a respected 30 year veteran and former partner of Deloitte and Touche, was fired in 1996 after informing management that their earnings manipulations were illegal and violations of the SEC and FASB laws. He was given the option to resign or be fired and later settled for $4 million after suing under the Federal Whistle Blowers Act.

2) Speculating on Their Own Stock: Microsoft issues a massive amount of put options. During the same quarter ended 3/31/99, Microsoft sold put contracts on their own stock for $400 million, basically betting that the stock will not decline. They need not worry because they are allowed to "cook the books." Of Microsoft's significant cash balance, it is also a financial fact that more than 65 percent of that cash did not originate from product sales but rather from tax benefits associated with the exercise of stock options, employees prepaying their own wages, and the sale of put contracts on its own stock. Microsoft's financial innovation is making a mockery of financial integrity, ethics, and the securities laws, just as Insull did in the 1920's.

3) Convincing Employees to Take Less Real Wages: Microsoft aggressively markets stock options to new employees in an effort to take wage expenses off the books. They also know that they can pocket the exercise price employees will be required to pay to take ownership of the stock. What also seems clear is that Microsoft is still aggressively marketing its stock option program to new recruits. To quote an email received, "I am about to begin employment at Microsoft and the stock option was the selling factor. Does your article overall state that it will be bad for me and will fail me in my retirement planning?" Is Microsoft fulfilling its disclosure obligations to its own employees, especially those that have put their entire 401K balance in Microsoft stock? This explains how 22 percent of Microsoft's massive cash balance has actually come from its own employees in the form of them prepaying their own wages through stock option exercise prices.

4) Publicly touting the stock: In a recent earnings release, CFO Greg Maffei jokingly cited 10 reasons why Microsoft is a $1 trillion company. A common strategy here is to have top executives issue conflicting statements, one talking up the stock and the other talking it down and then within a few days financial analysts all come out with buy recommendations on the stock due to a small decline. They are making a mockery of financial integrity, ethics, and the securities laws.

5) Controlling the media. After issuing several press releases on PR Newswire, Microsoft told the service to stop issuing my press releases. Microsoft is PR Newswire's largest client. PR Newswire is owned by Miller Freeman of the UK, a large media company that publishes many computer related publications including Information Week in addition to Microsoft focused journals such as the Windows System Developer. Miller Freeman does indeed function as if it were a department of Microsoft itself.

6) Stock Option Accounting: It is important to note that any discussion of stock option accounting must address two completely different and independent situations. The first is to analyze the impact of options exercised and already retired and the second is to analyze the remaining options debt outstanding. This study focused on both whereas most media coverage only focuses on the remaining options debt outstanding."

tell 'em robbIE. they bulleave in you.

moron 'sendo the clones' vs. softwar gangsters (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06, @09:18AM (#5024942) don't bother, they're here [picphone.com]?

careful with the t word there robbIE?

djia hear the won about how some of the .commIEs, after having "merged" (collectdead billyuns) a few years ago, are now going to "spin" themselves "apart" again? you get IT? so far, their "recipe", has only "cost" J.public around 2-5 billyuns in markup capitoll. easy come....

look for: nsi.msn.net, ticker: (MASK)

look for: va.msn.net, ticker: (VAST)

tell 'em robbIE. tell 'em about momeNTdumb.

is in shambulls. many say, he was the won whois hurt the MoSt. others dare to disagree:

"1) Earnings Management: The first and most important tool Microsoft uses is the manipulation of earnings to ensure analysts' expectations are met. According to an ABC News 1/22/99 article by Michael Martinez, Microsoft's own internal auditor, a respected 30 year veteran and former partner of Deloitte and Touche, was fired in 1996 after informing management that their earnings manipulations were illegal and violations of the SEC and FASB laws. He was given the option to resign or be fired and later settled for $4 million after suing under the Federal Whistle Blowers Act.

2) Speculating on Their Own Stock: Microsoft issues a massive amount of put options. During the same quarter ended 3/31/99, Microsoft sold put contracts on their own stock for $400 million, basically betting that the stock will not decline. They need not worry because they are allowed to "cook the books." Of Microsoft's significant cash balance, it is also a financial fact that more than 65 percent of that cash did not originate from product sales but rather from tax benefits associated with the exercise of stock options, employees prepaying their own wages, and the sale of put contracts on its own stock. Microsoft's financial innovation is making a mockery of financial integrity, ethics, and the securities laws, just as Insull did in the 1920's.

3) Convincing Employees to Take Less Real Wages: Microsoft aggressively markets stock options to new employees in an effort to take wage expenses off the books. They also know that they can pocket the exercise price employees will be required to pay to take ownership of the stock. What also seems clear is that Microsoft is still aggressively marketing its stock option program to new recruits. To quote an email received, "I am about to begin employment at Microsoft and the stock option was the selling factor. Does your article overall state that it will be bad for me and will fail me in my retirement planning?" Is Microsoft fulfilling its disclosure obligations to its own employees, especially those that have put their entire 401K balance in Microsoft stock? This explains how 22 percent of Microsoft's massive cash balance has actually come from its own employees in the form of them prepaying their own wages through stock option exercise prices.

4) Publicly touting the stock: In a recent earnings release, CFO Greg Maffei jokingly cited 10 reasons why Microsoft is a $1 trillion company. A common strategy here is to have top executives issue conflicting statements, one talking up the stock and the other talking it down and then within a few days financial analysts all come out with buy recommendations on the stock due to a small decline. They are making a mockery of financial integrity, ethics, and the securities laws.

5) Controlling the media. After issuing several press releases on PR Newswire, Microsoft told the service to stop issuing my press releases. Microsoft is PR Newswire's largest client. PR Newswire is owned by Miller Freeman of the UK, a large media company that publishes many computer related publications including Information Week in addition to Microsoft focused journals such as the Windows System Developer. Miller Freeman does indeed function as if it were a department of Microsoft itself.

6) Stock Option Accounting: It is important to note that any discussion of stock option accounting must address two completely different and independent situations. The first is to analyze the impact of options exercised and already retired and the second is to analyze the remaining options debt outstanding. This study focused on both whereas most media coverage only focuses on the remaining options debt outstanding."

look for: va.msn.net, (VAST)?

you go robbIE. X marks the splat.