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Re: When religion makes laws
And yet the crusades, the holy wars, the inquisition, and other countless atrocities were perpetuated in his name.
Sorry, friend, your case is weak.
PS,
A little googling found this page: http://www.truthbeknown.com/vi... -
Re:I'm sure it's effective
http://askville.amazon.com/people-killed-Inquisition/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=3878676
According to public news reports the book's editor, Prof. Agostino Borromeo, stated that about 125,000 persons were investigated by the Spanish Inquisition, of which 1.8% were executed (2,250 people).
During the high point of the Spanish Inquisition from 1478-1530 AD, scholars found that approximately 1,500-2,000 people were found guilty. From that point forward, there are exact records available of all "guilty" sentences which amounted to 775 executions. In the full 200 years of the Spanish Inquisition, less than 1% of the population had any contact with it, people outside of the major cities didn't even know about it. The Inquisition was not applied to Jews or Moslems, unless they were baptised as Christians.
If we add the figures, we find that the entire Inquisition of 500 years, caused about 6,000 deaths.
That's the inquisition... now more generally.. you probably want this:
http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
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Now I'm skipping some of what I consider dubious examples where a war between nations is less strongly associated with religion than with a conflict between the people but it's fair to say that religion (the catholic/christian religion) was a factor to a major factor in these conflicts.
---Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded. [DO30]
Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany. [WW223]Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (jewish, muslim, men, women, children). [WW37-40]
(In the words of one witness: "there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes", and after that "happily and crying for joy our people marched to our Saviour's tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude")
The Archbishop of Tyre, eye-witness, wrote: "It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished." [TG79]Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. 200,000 heathens slaughtered "in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ". [WW45]
1391 Seville's Jews killed (Archbishop Martinez leading). 4,000 were slain, 25,000 sold as slaves. [DA454] Their identification was made easy by the brightly colored "badges of shame" that all jews above the age of ten had been forced to wear.
1572 In France about 20,000 Huguenots were killed on command of pope Pius V. Until 17th century 200,000 flee. [DO31]
Albigensians: the first Crusade intended to slay other Christians. [DO29]
The Albigensians...viewed themselves as good Christians, but would not accept roman Catholic rule, and taxes, and prohibition of birth control. [NC]
Begin of violence: on command of pope Innocent III (greatest single pre-nazi mass murderer) in 1209. Bezirs (today France) 7/22/1209 destroyed, all the inhabitants were slaughtered. Victims (including Catholics refusing to turn over their heretic neighbours and friends) 20,000-70,000. [WW179-181]As one of the culprits wrote: "So many Indians died that they could not be counted, all through the land the Indians lay dead everywhere. The stench was very great and pestiferous." [SH69]
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Re:Large company trying to be "fair"?
love of money placed before the love of God
I'd say "love of God" comes pretty high on my list of evils.
Christianity: murder count that makes Godwin cry, depriving billions of people of joys of life, robbing them blind of wordly possessions, setting back science and culture by ~1.5k years; being less evil recently not because of good will but because of the Western civilization shedding religion quickly.
Islam: denying the right to live to infidels (some religions being merely dhimmied), doing everything of the above.Christianity went on their rampage as soon as they seized power (Constantine the "Great", Theodosius the "Great"); Islam, after Muhammad's warlordy rule, had a benign era until around 12th century, then became murderous closed-minded barbarians they are to this day.
Then we have communism, which is a religion in everything but name (prophets, scripture, clergy, portraits of deities/saints, rituals, fighting heretics and unbelievers, their own "science" (dialectical materialism, Lysenkoism, etc).
Ordinary greed is nowhere as vile as the above organizations.
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Sorry dude. Prior art.
The whole Jesus story is really a retelling of Dionysus.
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Re:Edifying
I find it fascinating that you have been modded "troll" for what is essentially the truth. All the members of the Jesus fan-club must be as sensitive as they are stupid.
here && here are 2 of the best sites on the issue that I have seen
.I was raised as a Catholic but have never been very susceptible to brainwashing or cultism. It is still amazing to me that people believe their own set of fairy tales (e.g. Xtianity) but will scoff and mock those of others (Islam, Roman Mythology etc), when they are, in fact, essentially the same thing. -
Re:Sunshine and ridicule would work wonders
Historically, Christianity (the Religion of Love) has had ONE dark spot on it's otherwise mostly peaceful existence, The Crusades.
One dark spot !? What about the Spanish inquisition, pogroms, blood libels, the KKK, 1st Crusades, 2nd Crusades, the 30 years war, 3rd crusades... the list goes on and on and on
...I don't know how accurate this list is, but worth a look for those whose intelligence is easily insulted.
Islam may be "be a religion of barbarism, tribalism and conquest," but when it comes to body count followers of that defector from Judaism got a much earlier start, and carried out their killings in a much more systematic method...
It should be clear that I wasn't equating the 2 religions, rather I was in-equating them, just to remind that the christians don't have any reason to be so self righteous, and think that they alone are responsible for "prosperous western society."
BTW... I don't quite see how your reminder was delivered in a friendly manner, proper to a lover of the "religion of love".
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Re:Today's "true" myths
It is nice to think that at least today we KNOW that our myths are made-up. But there are still some people who manage to insist they are real, actual events! - UFO religions like the Scientologists or heaven's gate.
Don't forget themainstream religions... -
Re:so I guess
There are a lot of other real nasty sexually transmitted diseases - fungus for one, you don't want see illustrations of that.
As for retroviruses:
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index.htm
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/tour/step11.htm
http://www.truthbeknown.com/aidslinks.htm
http://www.harmonikireland.com/print.php?topic=HIV
http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=24
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there never wuz any jesus
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Re:Good idea !!!
Jesus is a solar myth. God's sun, the "light of the world" who "cometh on clouds and every eye shall see him." See this page.
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Re:"Confidential" nature of religious documents?
> In the beginning of Christianity there was no Bible, but still Christianity managed to spread like wildfire.
Nonsense: this is pure mythology. The Christian church grew painfully slowly. In fact, the whole religion is plagiarized from older sources. There WAS NO JESUS. See this article. -
Re:Will it include all the rare items?
I would like to direct you to my favorite article concerning the origin of the Christian Church: The Origins of Christianity