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  1. Re:Don't want to spoil your cheering, but... by devent · · Score: 1 · on Osama Bin Laden Reported Dead, Body In US Hands

    Btw, to put my post more in perspective, here are some numbers: http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html

    "At least 919,967 people have
    been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq
    since the U.S. and coalition attacks, based on lowest credible estimates."

  2. Nice weapon by devent · · Score: 1 · on US Army Unveils 'Revolutionary' $35,000 Rifle

    Nice. Now the USA troops can kill civilians much easier that are try to hid behind a wall. Like 864,531 in Iraq and 8,813 in Afghanistan. That's like a ratio of 1:317, American to Muslims (there was 8813 civilians killed in the 9/11 attacks). My sources was a quick Google search, and particular this My guess is if you Government get to a ratio of 1:500 then 9/11 was avenged enough. You still wonder why the Muslims hate the USA so much?

  3. Wrong statistics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Controversy Arises Over Taliban Option In Medal of Honor

    There's 1200 families from Afghanistan that have to live with this every day.

    It is actually 1200 families from the USA, and at least 17000 families from Afghanistan.

    Source: http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html#afghanistan

  4. Re:Get your lawyers ready /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on German Killers Sue Wikipedia To Remove Their Names

    The EU member countries' track record of mass murder, genocide and war might go back millennia, but over the last sixty years or so we finally learned to be civilized and live together in peace -- which is kind of what the EU has been about from the beginning. The US's track record for mass murder, genocide and war, on the other hand, is very much an ongoing concern.

  5. Re:It doesn't matter when the defendant suffers fr by Deagol · · Score: 1 · on First New Dismissal Motion Against RIAA Complaint
    In spite of the "justice is blind" theory in which our legal system operates, it obviously isn't that cut and dry.

    Take, for instance, an incident in the rural little town of Hinckley, UT. Several years ago, a town employee was caught with her hand in the proverbial cookie jar, having spent town funds on (among other things) diet pills and kitchen decorations. She defrauded a small community and broke the public trust. Pretty bad, if you ask me.

    The asshat of a judge over the case, Judge Donald Eyre of Millard County, gave her a slap on the wrist. Yet, reading the local weekly police blotter (I used to live near this shit stain of a town), this judge routinely punished the Hispanic and white trash population far harsher for far lesser offenses. I wish I could find the case transcripts for this dude's court somewhere online, as I bet it would be very entertaining (this case in particular, but just in general). This county/town is relatively obscure, and the only page I could find with any reference to the case at all is an ex-employee's brief account here.

    So, while it not be right for personal standing or circumstance to affect court judgements, it does happen, so I see no reason why those caught in a corrupt industry's dragnet cannot exploit this and play the sympathy card.

  6. Re:I predict... by Thing+1 · · Score: 4, Informative · on White House Derails Attempts to End Illegal Wiretapping

    Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to be sufficiently self-aware to spend the rest of his days agonizing over the fact that he's been such an abysmal failure.

    His record, as president, matches perfectly his business record.

    The thing that scares me the most is I vaguely recall him saying something like, "I want to preside over the Rapture prophesied in Revelations" (which of course requires an Armageddon), and forcing Russia to change the direction their nukes are pointing seems like a good first step down the road to Hell for all of us.

    I definitely remember him saying, "I want to be a war president."

    (Holy fuck, when I started this I didn't realize that I'd find so much evidence to link to. Wow.)

  7. Re:Let's not get all technical now by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1 · on Remote Control To Prevent Aircraft Hijacking

    Our president's intentions to take down Saddam after 9/11 don't change the fact that we, America and probably most of the first world, are pussies. Have you ever been in a fight? I've never been in a fight. I was a gigantic asshole for the last two years high school and never found myself in the slightest danger of receiving even a single punch. Good thing we don't fill our military with random, untrained, high school students, then. Not punching an asshole is a sign of tolerance, not cowardice. The military appeals to the brave, and rejects most of the rest. The US Army soldiers I served with were plenty brave. Marines I knew even more so (brave to a fault, even picking fights where none were before). By the way you seem to think that throwing a punch is the "bravest" way to deal with some guy who's merely being a jerk, I think you might make a good Marine.
  8. Re:A show trial in every sense. by GnuAge · · Score: 1 · on Saddam Hussein Sentenced to Death
    Actually, the U.S. had a widely reported "tilt" towards Iraq throughout the Iran-Iraq War. It true that except a few helicopters, not much big ticket Iraqi military hardware was sent directly by the U.S., perhaps .6 of 1% of conventional arms imports during the war. However the government allowed third parties (Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Egypt) to transfer plenty of American weapons, including helicopters, bombs & howitzers. Reagan even directly asked the Italian Prime Minister Andreotti to channel arms to Iraq. The U.S. also guaranteed $5 billion dollars of loans to Iraq for exports through an Italian bank that was effectively a CIA front. That helped Saddam divert other monies to arms acquisition. Iraq defaulted leaving American taxpayers to shell out $2 billion to cover that transaction. The American government shared intelligence & satellite reconnaissance photography with the Iraqi government, which enabled Saddam to use his chemical weapons much more effectively. There is a timeline and additional documents here. The U.S. also sent 17 shipments of 80 batches of toxic biomaterials including anthrax and botulism. The U.S. even quietly opposed condemning Iraq's use of WMDs in the U.N.:
    Iran had submitted a draft resolution asking the U.N. to condemn Iraq's chemical weapons use. The U.S. delegate to the U.N. was instructed to lobby friendly delegations in order to obtain a general motion of "no decision" on the resolution. If this was not achievable, the U.S. delegate was to abstain on the issue. Iraq's ambassador met with the U.S. ambassador to the U.N., Jeane Kirkpatrick, and asked for "restraint" in responding to the issue - as did the representatives of both France and Britain.
    To facilitate military aid the U.S. removed Iraq from its list of terrorist nations despite the fact that Saddam was harboring Abu Nidal & his minions.

    Also, Saddam Hussein was on the CIA payroll from long before he took power and was even involved in a CIA plot to kill a previous president of Iraq. After Saddam took power the CIA helped him kill off his political opposition.
    But the agency quickly moved into action. Noting that the Baath Party was hunting down Iraq's communist, the CIA provided the submachine gun-toting Iraqi National Guardsmen with lists of suspected communists who were then jailed, interrogated, and summarily gunned down, according to former U.S. intelligence officials with intimate knowledge of the executions.

    Many suspected communists were killed outright, these sources said. Darwish told UPI that the mass killings, presided over by Saddam, took place at Qasr al-Nehayat, literally, the Palace of the End.


    Like Noriega, Al Qaida, the Taliban and many others before him, Saddam's real crime wasn't that he a tyrant, a butcher or a dictator, but that he fed at the CIA trough and then later didn't obey orders. That is the one crime that always prompts U.S. military intervention and "liberation."
  9. Re:Economic effects by infidel13 · · Score: 1 · on US Citizens To Require ''Clearance'' To Leave?

    9/11 deaths: 2,819

    US soldier deaths (Afghanistan): 901 (total, fourth table)
    US soldier deaths (Iraq): 2,823 (total, first table)
    Iraqi Security Forces deaths: 15,249 (total, third table)
    Iraqi civilian deaths: ~48,000
    Afghan civilian deaths: 3,485

    And this is just plain scary.
    Do the math.

  10. Re:The Hills are Alive With the Sound of Gunfire by jafac · · Score: 1 · on Powell Aide Says Case for War a 'Hoax'

    A simple search on Google will yeild the results you seek:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=WTC+9%2F11+PU T+options+AMR+UAL&btnG=Google+Search

    Oddly enough, snopes claims this rumor is false:
    http://www.snopes.com/rumors/putcall.asp

    Then they go on to say that yes, there was unusual trading, but that it was explainable. But if that were the case, if the traders really do have an iron-clad alabi that it was just their good fortune, why was over $2.5 million in profits never claimed?
    Also note that if these trades were done as part of some strategy connected with the generally declining stock market, then why wasn't Delta given the same PUT option treament as AMR and UAL?

    Another doubter:
    http://www.nationalreview.com/rose/rose20040726070 0.asp

    If you buy that story, then you need to look deeper:
    (note: not a single source I could find comes from a "major news outlet" - so keep your salt shaker handy)
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/HEN204B.html
    OR
    http://www.unknownnews.net/010918911.html
    OR
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?nof rames;read=73104
    OR
    http://www.humanunderground.com/archive/lucy.html
    (don't read too much of this one, if you value your sanity).
    OR
    (one of the better articles "connecting the dots")
    http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/apocalypse/ins ider_trading.html
    OR
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?nof rames;read=73104
    OR
    (scarier:)
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?nof rames;read=73105
    OR
    Sadly, Wikipedia lists this as a "conspiracy-theory":
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theor ies

  11. Re:This article is hysteria by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Insightful · on Making Files Available Breaking the Law?
    Did anyone read the linked-to material? They are saying that putting *copyrighted* materials in a shared folder is illegal. Not just sharing any files

    Technically, any creative work is copyrighted. If I write some code, is it illegal for me to put it into a shared folder? What if I write it, like most employed coders, as work for hire, such that my employer owns it? Have I broken the law by putting in a shared folder? Have I broken the law by uploading it to a publicly read-able CVS repository?

    Hey, my briefcase has a copyrighted book in it. I accidently left my briefcase open, next to copy machine, where anybody could have made copies of that book. Am I guilty of illegal negligence, or am I just a straight up "thief"?

    I own a bunch of copyrighted books. There's a Kinkos down the street. Is it illegal for me to leave my front door open? Can I put my books on the porch? Can I lend one to my next door neighbor, or is any of that illegal too?

    This is a bizarre criminalization of mundane, innocent, and customary activities, solely intended to create a climate of fear.

    More and more, our every-day right to "pursue happiness" is being taken away by those who profit by making us fear.

    Look, I agree, the record companies have a right to copyright. But Americans have a right not to live in fear. We've got thousands of people living in fear in order to provide fancy cars and three houses each for a few record company execs. It goes too far.

    It's time for all of us to draw a line in the sand, and say we won't live in fear anymore. America's turning into Orwell's worst nightmare, the dirty drab gray life of a rat hiding in the shadows to avoid the stomping jackboots.

    If this bullshit is "safety" from "the terrorists" I don't want to be safe anymore.

    If living in fear is the cost of listing to the latest boy band from Sony, it's not worth it anymore.

    It's time for Americans to get up on our hind legs like men and tell the fear-mongers that we've had it with them.

  12. Grant your trust for the right reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative · on Google Patent for User Targeted Search Results

    These are actions Google has actually taken:

    Helped Chinese authorities to censor their subjects' Internet access.
    (http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx ?NewsId=14130)

    Selectively approved and refused ads, based on political content.
    (http://www.unknownnews.net/google.html)
    (http://www.thenation.com/doc/20040830/reilly)

    Permanently collected search history for everyone who has ever used their site.
    (http://www.google.com/intl/en/privacypolicy.html)
    (http://www.techweb.com/wire/ebiz/161500535)

    Permanently collected/indexed the email history and content of all gmail users, for marketing and law-enforcement use.
    (http://mail.google.com/mail/help/privacy.html)

    Filed obvious software patents.
    (Refer to this slashdot story.)

    For me, when people's actions directly contradict their words, I reduce my trust in them accordingly. Google can keep claiming to "do no evil," but the words are becoming more and more empty.

    "How is it evil? It could be evil because its very powerful but in the right hands.. it could be good for everyone."

    There's a simple way to tell if someone is likely to abuse power. When someone collects power over you, and states that it's for a purpose which doesn't require that power, you are being misled.

  13. Re:It's for the children! by gg3po · · Score: 1 · on U.S. House Votes to Extend Patriot Act
    However, whenever anybody is asked to site a case in which some poor schmuck actually got shafted by these laws, they suddenly fall silent.

    Rather than them being silent, maybe you're just not listening.

    Here's a repost of some relevant comments I made on this subject several months ago:

    Here's a basic list of just a handful of abuses I came up:

    And finally, maybe there haven't been as many abuses as there will be once all 2nd legal track the preparations are in place .

  14. A moderate list: by gg3po · · Score: 4, Informative · on The Continuing Hunt for PATRIOT Act Abuses

    Please note that the identical AC post in this story was me, but I accidentally posted it as AC the first time.

    Here's a basic list of just a handful of abuses I came up:

    And finally, maybe there haven't been as many abuses as there will be once all 2nd legal track the preparations are in place.

  15. A moderate list: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative · on The Continuing Hunt for PATRIOT Act Abuses

    Here's a basic list of just a handful of abuses I came up:

    And finally, maybe there haven't been as many abuses as there will be once all 2nd legal track the preparations are in place.

  16. Re:One place to look by Rei · · Score: 1 · on The Continuing Hunt for PATRIOT Act Abuses

    I read the article and the previous post. And it is nonsense. Heck, I know someone in the small (~60k) people city who even before the Patriot Act (in the immediate aftermath of Sept. 11th) had one of the infamous Patriot Act style incidents. He is a Sudanese immigrant who runs a local business; he was a lawyer in Sudan working to prevent forcing Sharia on the entire population. Several of his colleagues were murdered, and he fled to the US and was granted assylum. When he immigrated, his birthday was incorrect on one form, and it took him months of work to get it corrected. After getting it dealt with, he hadn't heard anything back for years.

    However, after Sept. 11th, they dug up his original records, and started calling him asking about the mistake. He explained it to them, but kept getting more calls. Then, one day, they showed up and arrested him at his business, right in front of his customers. They took him to the Johnson County jail to be held, and made up a story about him being picked up on the street acting suspicious. The Johnson County jail refused to hold him, so they took him up to Linn County. They held him for almost a week before suddenly letting him go unexpectedly. No charges were ever filed, and they initially denied even holding him. However, when he was arrested, they took the money he had on him, and later wrote him a check for it. He kept the check.

    He has a lawsuit still pending. One thing that's already been discovered during the investigation is that they had gotten a form to deport him; it just needed to be signed. If he had been sent back to Sudan, he'd likely be killed. A lot of the local Sudanese community has been really concerned ever since this happened.

    This was pre-patriot act. Since the patriot act, there have been *many* cases reported. Is this mass delusion? There were 34 cases of abuse in custody by immigrants that were deemed credible by the Justice Department. It's been used against strip clubs. This? Etc. I've probably run across 50 or so cases that were far more than "accusations" in the past year. The fact that they can't find any is just amazing.

  17. Re:It doesn't matter .... by LaCosaNostradamus · · Score: 1 · on RIAA Lawsuits from a John Doe's Perspective

    I agree, and have a favorite one-liner about it:

    I'll care about copyrights when the copyright on Mickey Mouse expires.

  18. Re:funding Bush's party? rather... by Atrax · · Score: 1 · on Big Money Comes Out for the Inauguration

    If you want to run with the "Bush is insane" ball, here's some linkage for you.

    I'm naturally inclined to agree, but that's because I think most religious people are at least a little insane.

    Don't get me wrong, some religious people are really nice. But nutty.

  19. Re:We don't need them, until we need them. by SuperBigGulp · · Score: 1 · on Budget Issues Force Spy Satellites Into The Open
    ...US government support of brutal regimes throughout the Middle East.

    I think we got tired of supporting brutal regimes and decided to start our own.

  20. Re:It obviously means by js7a · · Score: 0 · on Former CIA Head Calls for Limiting Access to the Internet
    what's this - MS Office? Disgusting

    All the .doc files that say Iraq has UAV drones filled with anthrax ready to attack the East Coast have the same 41KB macro in them! CheneyTenetAndJacobyLieLieLie.dot

  21. UnderReported by michaelmalak · · Score: 1 · on Your Favorite Political Weblogs?
    Shameless plug #537

    The story summary said specifically "mainstream media dissected", so I just had to suggest my site. While I'm at it, I'll mention my direct "competitors" that I know of that also fit that description:

  22. Re:This is being done by Republican-SUPPORTERS, ri by Red+Rocket · · Score: 2, Insightful · on Hackers Take Aim at Republicans


    ...liberals, are the ones most likely to attempt to censor to their opponents.

    I have two cases for you to help you ponder your hypocrisy:

    Al-Jazeera
    Yellow Times

    Censorship is wrong. A liberal would not be in favor of censorship. These guys are more accurately described as anarchists.

  23. Re:Yes it is by Veridium · · Score: 1 · on Using Copyright To Suppress Political Speech

    http://www.unknownnews.net/fis020603.html
    http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/politics/rape/nan ag/
    http://english.pravda.ru/diplomatic/2001/12/21/241 41.html
    http://www.brasscheck.com/yugoslavia/directory/517 99a.html
    http://www.michaelparenti.org/MediaAtrocities.html
    http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/mandel_canada.htm
    http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/sinclair/why. htm

    If you can provide links to websites that actually can provide hard evidence of the things that required something drastic to be done, I'd love to read them. I'd also love to read any websites you have that explain how the US was dragged kicking and screaming. Thanks.

  24. Re: white people bombing us by fizbin · · Score: 1 · on DHS Says Cellular Outage Reporting is Terrorist Blueprint

    And then there were all those white supremacists rounded up in Texas late last year. With, you know, bombs and poison and other terrorist stuff. But not brown skin or Korans, so I guess it wasn't worth national media attention.

    (And as for white people bombing America, you left out the bombing of the Atlanta Olympic Games)

  25. Except Google bans political/issue advertising by michaelmalak · · Score: 1 · on Does Google = God?

    Google does not allow sites to use their Google Adwords to advertise themselves if the topic suggests "anti-" anything (e.g. the public school system) in the slightest way. See my two stories on it, as well as one from another site experiencing the same problem.

  26. Buy "Who Would Jesus Bomb?" bumperstickers here by cpeterso · · Score: 1 · on A New Meaning For Geotargeting At Monster.com


    http://www.unknownnews.net/stickers.html

  27. Re:public opinion? by capitalsucks · · Score: 0 · on The Googlewashing Of Our Language
    In fact, Google is not politically neutral at all. Google NEWS is especially guilty in this aspect. They refuse to list Indymedia as one of the search possiblities and *almost* stopped http://unknownnews.net from listing a PAID ad on in the search results of very appropriate keywords. You can read about that Here. They're also blacklisting Infshop INews, which is alot like Slashdot indeed. I don't know if Slashdot is blacklisted. But I was never able to find anything from Raise The Fist! on there either. You can read their various excuses on the unknownnews page. The reason this gets even more away from politically neutral and further disqualifies their excuses is via the fact that most if not all of the sites mentioned in this comment were listed there before. Here is a little e-mail between me and google news team you might be interested in reading:

    My First Message To Them:

    Subject: Infoshop News
    Sender: PJ


    Date: 3/22/2003 12:29 PM
    To: News-Feedback@google.com

    I am writing to encourage your editoral team to include in the new Google news feature, (which I use quite frequently throughout the day) the news reports and services of infoshop.org
    If you continue to reject your users the right to use such a great service as Infoshop News, we will organize a boycott of google, which you should know, I have bought products thru your little in-search advertisements, but I am willing to give this up if google is going to be a nationalistic, plutocratic, indymedia hating group of individuals. I will do my searching elsewhere.
    Thank you for your time,
    --Paul Madore, Frequent Google User

    Their First Response:

    Subject: Re: Infoshop News [#1908026]
    From: news-feedback@google.com
    Date: 3/24/2003 6:10 PM
    To: ph uck auth ority at maineindymedia.org

    Hi,

    Thanks for your email. Google News is highly unusual in that it provides a news service compiled solely by computer algorithms without any intervention from human editors. To ensure high quality content on Google News, we require the following criteria from our news sources: (1) the organization must be made up of more than one individual and (2 ) they must guarantee that all articles will be reviewed by their respective editors prior to publication on the web.

    Infoshop.org does not meet these requirements. We appreciate your taking the time to provide feedback on Google News and hope you will contact us in the future with additional observations and suggestions.

    Regards,
    The Google Team

    My Response To That:

    Subject: Re: Infoshop News [#1908026]
    From: PJ
    Date: 3/25/2003 5:36 PM
    To: news-feedback@google.com

    Hi,
    Here is my future observation,
    Firstly, I have had articles rejected from infoshop's Inews section. So therefore THEY ARE REVIEWED. Secondly, Chuck0 is not the only person reviewing them, he is just the head editor. How does this sound to you?

    "BOYCOTT GOOGLE, BOYCOTT FASCISM"

    It's up to you.

    And to think, I actually wrote a comment awhile back that said "Google is coogle"...

    Think what you want guys but Im thinking that this google boycott may be just the thing..we can do better anyways..if we pull together..I know we can..I mean google started out as a college project..

    Thanks,
    -CapitalSucks
  28. Re:public opinion? by capitalsucks · · Score: 0 · on The Googlewashing Of Our Language
    In fact, Google is not politically neutral at all. Google NEWS is especially guilty in this aspect. They refuse to list Indymedia as one of the search possiblities and *almost* stopped http://unknownnews.net from listing a PAID ad on in the search results of very appropriate keywords. You can read about that Here. They're also blacklisting Infshop INews, which is alot like Slashdot indeed. I don't know if Slashdot is blacklisted. But I was never able to find anything from Raise The Fist! on there either. You can read their various excuses on the unknownnews page. The reason this gets even more away from politically neutral and further disqualifies their excuses is via the fact that most if not all of the sites mentioned in this comment were listed there before. Here is a little e-mail between me and google news team you might be interested in reading:

    My First Message To Them:

    Subject: Infoshop News
    Sender: PJ


    Date: 3/22/2003 12:29 PM
    To: News-Feedback@google.com

    I am writing to encourage your editoral team to include in the new Google news feature, (which I use quite frequently throughout the day) the news reports and services of infoshop.org
    If you continue to reject your users the right to use such a great service as Infoshop News, we will organize a boycott of google, which you should know, I have bought products thru your little in-search advertisements, but I am willing to give this up if google is going to be a nationalistic, plutocratic, indymedia hating group of individuals. I will do my searching elsewhere.
    Thank you for your time,
    --Paul Madore, Frequent Google User

    Their First Response:

    Subject: Re: Infoshop News [#1908026]
    From: news-feedback@google.com
    Date: 3/24/2003 6:10 PM
    To: ph uck auth ority at maineindymedia.org

    Hi,

    Thanks for your email. Google News is highly unusual in that it provides a news service compiled solely by computer algorithms without any intervention from human editors. To ensure high quality content on Google News, we require the following criteria from our news sources: (1) the organization must be made up of more than one individual and (2 ) they must guarantee that all articles will be reviewed by their respective editors prior to publication on the web.

    Infoshop.org does not meet these requirements. We appreciate your taking the time to provide feedback on Google News and hope you will contact us in the future with additional observations and suggestions.

    Regards,
    The Google Team

    My Response To That:

    Subject: Re: Infoshop News [#1908026]
    From: PJ
    Date: 3/25/2003 5:36 PM
    To: news-feedback@google.com

    Hi,
    Here is my future observation,
    Firstly, I have had articles rejected from infoshop's Inews section. So therefore THEY ARE REVIEWED. Secondly, Chuck0 is not the only person reviewing them, he is just the head editor. How does this sound to you?

    "BOYCOTT GOOGLE, BOYCOTT FASCISM"

    It's up to you.

    And to think, I actually wrote a comment awhile back that said "Google is coogle"...

    Think what you want guys but Im thinking that this google boycott may be just the thing..we can do better anyways..if we pull together..I know we can..I mean google started out as a college project..

    Thanks,
    -CapitalSucks
  29. Re:Little orphan postie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on 4l-j4z333ra 0wn3d

    More links: Unknown news Dead guys Boycott

  30. Re:so what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on False Information A-Okay in Primary FBI Database

    Hah, well so much for previewing... HERE, even

  31. Could be worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1 · on LANL Warning About Radioactive Trees

    At least they're not releasing carcinogenic formaldehyde.