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Re:YouTube Compare. Re:Another one
Just install Virtualbox. It's Open Source, and dead easy to use. You can even move your existing Windows install to the virtual one
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Re:YouTube Compare. Re:Another one
Just install Virtualbox. It's Open Source, and dead easy to use. You can even move your existing Windows install to the virtual one
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Re:What?
I've got Ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop. I use VirtualBox to create a Windows XP virtual machine from the system discs that came with the laptop. It works great and I never have to leave Ubuntu.
Now, if you're one of those power gamers who must-get-every-ounce-of-performance-from-my-hardware-no-matter-what kind of guys, then, just boot into Windows XP and forget about Linux. -
Re:Peer-reviewed source? Come on
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Re:Not really mainstream
Shoot, something went wrong with the link in the only post I haven't previewed in weeks, of course.
Here it is: VirtualBox.
And, yes, this time I previewed. -
Re:Not really mainstreamCredibility and you just don't get on, do you? Maybe my stupidity knows no bounds but at least I'm not responding with personal attacks by default whenever somebody voices an opinion I don't like. Virtualbox on Linux is as easy to use as Parallels on Mac. I'll try that out. And if I come back and tell you why it's not user friendly, you can trash me a bit more for having no credibility. Because, you know, that's a good way to respond to criticism.
There are two types of disgruntled users. The first just think something isn't working out and leave quietly in disgust. The second type are the guys who try to tell you that there maybe room for improvement. I'm not sure having all your critics in the first column is a good strategy when you're shooting for widespread adoption. Just a thought. -
Re:Not really mainstreamThe idea of mere users setting up something that works like Parallels on Mac is just completely out of the question with the way this stuff needs to be configured.
Credibility and you just don't get on, do you?
Virtualbox on Linux is as easy to use as Parallels on Mac.
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Re:So Windows Update Has ProblemsOK, tax software. I'm Australian, and the tax office allow you to lodge online using their own application. I have found instructions to run the Java app under Ubuntu, but I had no success at all. You likely have GIJ set as the Java runtime, which is what Ubuntu (and Fedora, IIRC) does by default. This doesn't support Swing or much else, and has horrible performance. This can be fixed easily, though:
sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
sudo update-alternatives --config java
(select the number that says "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java")
sudo gedit /etc/jvm
(add /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun as the first entry)
Now all Java should work properly. Cue VMWare player. Free, included in the packages for Ubuntu. I figured I'd use this until the ATO software can be installed in Linux (which I'm sure it can be). There's a way to create basic VMWare images using a QEMU which can then be saved as VMWare images. So a licensed version of windows 2000 went on for the sole purpose of doing my tax. This is my current project to make this thing run under Linux, an ongoing quest. Install VMWare Server. Ubuntu provides packages for it and to get it to work all you have to do is go to vmware.com and request a (free) license key for it. You can then create virtual machines easily. It rocks.
You can also give VirtualBox a try. It works well and offers a "seamless" mode (Windows apps appear on the Linux desktop). The only downside to VirtualBox is licensing. The binary that's available is under their "Personal Use and Evaluation License", but they do provide an Ubuntu repository for it. There is a GPL version available that does the same things, but you have to compile it from source.
At the moment I'm using both VMWare Server and VirtualBox OSE (the GPL version) equally. Paint shop pro, well, it wouldn't install using WINE, Buy CrossOver Office instead (there's a 30 day demo available). It's based on WINE, but actually works. Haven't figured out how to save alpha transparencies to PNG's yet. But it's doing it. Just save it as a PNG. Unless you index it first it will save the alpha transparencies by default. -
Re:Three things.
You just switched from Linux PC -> Macbook Pro too, huh? Check out VirtualBox an x86 virtualization app that seems to support enough to run a Linux spare-desktop or development environment (meaning no heavy multimedia) under OSX with very good performance. It comes in a closed-source edition that allows a personal/educational use freeware license and an open-source edition.
In case you wondered, yes: after getting a Macbook Pro I didn't want the hassle of running Linux on top of BootCamp (since BootCamp was designed explicitly for Windoze, damnit), and I was too cheap to shell out $80 for Parallels or VMWare Fusion. Also, I wanted to leave an open-source option open should licensing become too restrictive for me. -
Re:Or more accurately
Am I the only person who believes that WINE has their priorities screwed up??? You can't run any recent version of M$-Office
See, it's like this. The WINE project is made up of a bunch of volunteers who work on the things they want to work on. Some of those guys want to work on the 3D stuff.
You wish that they would prioritize Office. Well, that makes sense to me, but I can't tell all those volunteers what to do, and I'm not going to volunteer myself to work on it.
So, meantime, you can pay for Crossover, which runs Office. Office 97 and Office 2000 are both "gold", and Office XP is "silver". "gold" is the hightest level Crossover uses. (I predict that the next release of Crossover will probably run Office 2007, but the current one doesn't.)
Some day WINE will get around to Office so you could use the free version of WINE.
I bought Crossover a few times. It did work, but I was frustrated by performance issues (CPU would go to 100% more often than I liked).
My next Linux desktop computer is going to be stuffed full of RAM and is going to run Windows XP under VirtualBox. That way I can run my few remaining Windows apps without the pain of rebooting. VirtualBox is free.
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/
http://www.virtualbox.org/ -
Re:I think it screws up when upgrading.It still is nice to use to install some programs like virtualbox
And even a bit of reading the docs/using google will save you from having to "recover" from Automatix later on:
http://virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads Just grab your respective .deb from there -
Re:A genius!
Hell, I'm ready to make the switch to Ubuntu, but for my slavery to Quicken.
Some day soon I'll dd a backup of my NTFS drive and run Windows when needed in a VirtualBox within Ubuntu. -
Do it the other way round
Install Virtualbox, http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads on OSX and run Linux therein
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Re:So, will it run Windows?
For those wondering the best (IMHO) FOSS solution for those wanting to run Windows on Linux without a VT-capable processor is Virtualbox
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Re:VMware or Qemu
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Re:Host OS the one with better drivers
I'd prefer to be able to dual-boot directly into Windows or Linux (for when I want the fastest performance in Linux, and give it 100% of the RAM), and also be able to run that Linux installation inside of Windows. However, this requires the VM to support booting off a separate partition, and apparently VirtualBox doesn't support that. (yes, booting the same Linux setup under two very different sets of "hardware" has its challenges, but it is possible)
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Re:FYI: Parallels blows...
Peronsally I prefer "innotek VirtualBox" - iirc, its based on QEMU, but comes out of the box with easy to use wizards for setting up vm's, which I found easier to use than the free VMWare Server offering. Fairly easy to setup on Windows and Debian. The only thing I don't like is no emulation of x64 processors, but I'm willing to give that up for more user-friendliness since it only means going and downloading an x86 version of whatever guest OS I want to run...
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Re:THAT is Steve Jobs's "one more thing"?
This is WWDC. It is a developer conference, not a consumer conference. Its focus has always been software (although WWDC has occasionally been the forum for hardware announcements). Apple is doing more and more product introductions as they're ready (e.g., like last week's new MacBook Pro introduction), and less and less product introductions at conferences and "special events".
Everyone expecting brushed aluminum iMacs and new Cinema Displays shouldn't have expected that in the first place. And an Apple-branded virtualization solution? It's been known since last WWDC that Leopard wouldn't have integrated virtualization. With three different solutions already existing, plus Boot Camp, why would you even expect that, no matter how nice it would be?
And who would care about this announcement? This isn't just "Safari for Windows". Jeez. It's the channel for development for iPhone, since all of iPhone's third-party development will be as Safari web apps. -
Re:I hope VMWare's fixed its Vista perf problems
Vista under a VM has worked fine for me since January using VirtualBox, the open source VM manager. Once again, the FOSS is months ahead of proprietary...
The only thing that doesn't work is the 3D effects, which don't matter. -
Re:How pratical can it be to hold out?
VERY. You can virtualize any Windows OS now and run it inside of Linux or MacOS X.
Linux can even act as a Windows Virtual Machine server. Serving multiple Windows VMs to desktops or a single VM to multiple users that rolls back to a known state when each user separately turns it off while preserving all the files they've worked on. See open source products like InnoTek VirtualBox to see how this can be done: http://www.virtualbox.org/
That path will cost you significantly less than upgrading to Vista and buying new Vista applications.
In the case of businesses that have developed in-house Windows apps this path makes even more sense. They won't have to re-write their apps for Vista. They can run a more secure and/or open operating system and preserve their existing software investment until *THEY* decide to migrate to something new.
Virtualization also makes significant sense for any existing applications that run on older Windows platforms that Microsoft refuses to support, like Windows NT4 and soon Windows 2000. -
Re:Why bother?
My wife and I both use laptops which dual boot WindowsXP and Ubuntu. She has to run a windows application for her work and it doesn't work under wine so I got the free vmware player but got stuck because you need the commercial version to create a virtual disk.
You could give VirtualBox a try. There are two releases available to you: a free-as-in-freedom GPL'ed version and a free-as-in-beer closed-source version that has a few extra bells and whistles. I installed it and had a Windows virtual machine running in no time. -
Re:Why bother?
I have been playing around with the virtualbox virtualization software. It works well on Windows and Linux and it's free for the full version.
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Doesn't work on Win2k Host
I just found out some good and bad things.
- The Windows download is only 10 meg.
- It doesn't work on Win2k even though the documentation says it does. Apparently this is a known bug. See Knowledge Base cheers, Archie
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Even this?
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Dual modelAs a business model, InnoTek publishes two versions - the new GPLed open source, and a binary-only proprietary version with some enhancements:
* The full VirtualBox package is available in binary (executable) form free of charge from the Downloads page. This version is free for personal use and evaluation under the terms of the VirtualBox Personal Use and Evaluation License.
If, instead, you wish to purchase licenses for enterprise use and/or enterprise support for VirtualBox, please do not hesitate to contact InnoTek.
* The VirtualBox Open Source Edition (OSE) is the one that has been released under the GPL and comes with complete source code. It is functionally equivalent to the full VirtualBox package, except for a few features that primarily target enterprise customers. This gives us a chance to generate revenue to fund further development of VirtualBox.