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  1. Re:Uh oh by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 1 · on FTP Hacking on the Rise

    Whoops, that first "no one" was supposed to have that link.

  2. Re:Why are they paying $100/hr for tech contracter by Adam+J.+Richter · · Score: 1 · on California Considering More Internet Taxes

    The slashdot lameness filter does not like the ascii graphs are essential to my response, so I've put my response in a text web page.

  3. mirrors by country... by neo8750 · · Score: 4, Informative · on Mozilla 1.1 Beta Out And About
    lets be nice to the main site! .at .au .be .bg .ca .ch .com/.net/.org/.edu .cz .de .dk .ee .es .fi .fr .gr .hk .hu .ie .il .jp .kr .no .pl .pt .ru .se .sg .sk .tw .uk
  4. Mirrors for Gnome2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative · on GNOME 2.0 Released
    GNOME FTP Sites

    GNOME FTP Sites This site is mirrored at:

  5. Get To Those Mirrors! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative · on GNOME 2.0 Released

    GNOME FTP Sites This site is mirrored at:

    Last updated Wed Jun 26 03:18:01 2002 from our mirror database (webmaster@gnome.org).

  6. Re:Mirrors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll · on Gnome 2.0 RC2 Asks For Abuse

    Karma whore alert! Please mod down, and mod this anonymous post up!

    archive.progeny.com (US or Canada)
    ftp.twoguys.org (US or Canada)
    ftp3.sourceforge.net (US or Canada)
    ftp.rpmfind.net (US or Canada)
    ftp.sourceforge.net (US or Canada)
    ftp.cse.buffalo.edu (US or Canada)
    ftp.yggdrasil.com (US or Canada)
    planetmirror.com (Australia)
    ftp.sunet.se (Europe)
    ftp.dataplus.se (Europe)
    ftp.easynet.nl (Europe)
    ftp.unina.it (Europe)
    ftp.belnet.be (Europe)
    ftp.codefactory.se (Europe)
    ftp.tr.gnome.org (Europe)
    fr.rpmfind.net (Europe)
    ftp.acc.umu.se (Europe)
    ftp.no.gnome.org (Europe)
    ftp.dit.upm.es (Europe)
    fr2.rpmfind.net (Europe)
    linux.cem.itesm.mx (South America)

  7. Mirrors by neo8750 · · Score: 4, Informative · on Gnome 2.0 RC2 Asks For Abuse

    archive.progeny.com (US or Canada)
    ftp.twoguys.org (US or Canada)
    ftp3.sourceforge.net (US or Canada)
    ftp.rpmfind.net (US or Canada)
    ftp.sourceforge.net (US or Canada)
    ftp.cse.buffalo.edu (US or Canada)
    ftp.yggdrasil.com (US or Canada)
    planetmirror.com (Australia)
    ftp.sunet.se (Europe)
    ftp.dataplus.se (Europe)
    ftp.easynet.nl (Europe)
    ftp.unina.it (Europe)
    ftp.belnet.be (Europe)
    ftp.codefactory.se (Europe)
    ftp.tr.gnome.org (Europe)
    fr.rpmfind.net (Europe)
    ftp.acc.umu.se (Europe)
    ftp.no.gnome.org (Europe)
    ftp.dit.upm.es (Europe)
    fr2.rpmfind.net (Europe)
    linux.cem.itesm.mx (South America)

  8. Re:This is a wonderful thing.. by Bastian · · Score: 2 · on United Linux is Here

    However, I think you're a bit off on your distro timeline. I seem to remember RedHat being the first push towards a commercial Linux distro. SUSE came down the line. Mandrake was a test of the Linux fabric

    Still a bit off. . .

    Yggdrasil (anyone remember that? I still have a CD. . . ) came first with Plug 'n Play Linux, which I believe is the very first linux distro to come with an automated install. Yggdrasil never made a version that included post 1.2.x kernels and libc5. You can still see their website here.

    Good ol' Slackware was next. . . its heydey had to be Slackware 96, although the first version of Slack was put out way back in '93. Slack as in the ultimate goal of any subgenius. It's well named; all its competitors really do have no slack.

    Then we had Red Hat. Mmmmm. . . Red Hat. . .

    I think SuSE was pretty big everywhere but the USA around the time Red Hat got popular, but it still hasn't grabbed much of a foothold around here. Except in my college's computer science department, where all the professors fell in love with YaST because they're too lazy to edit /etc/fstab themselves.

    Oh yeah, and Mandrake figured out how to make money by stealing the latest version of Red Hat and filling it with bugs a couple of years ago, too. =D

  9. Grep for it! by phr1 · · Score: 4, Insightful · on Tracking Code to Its Origins?
    Get a big compilation source code CD like the Yggdrasil Internet archives, or even a regular Red Hat source cd. Then run a script which unpacks the zip files as needed, and greps for some sample strings from the code.

    Also, you might paste a few lines into a comment on this thread and see if anyone recognizes it.

  10. VNC terminal server and other VNC software by Adam+J.+Richter · · Score: 2 · on The State of Remote Desktops?

    Here is some additional VNC-related software that you may find useful. It comes from a project at Wyse a couple of years ago.

    vncd spawns VNC X-windows sessions for incoming connections. It can be run from inetd or by itself. This is handy if you to deploy a bunch of thin clients around a Linux system. It also has a little protocol for negotiating things like display geometry and color depth. If you just sent "DONE" following a line feed to it, it will then start the VNC protocol. See the source code for commands for setting display geometry, color scheme and environment variables in the session.

    remote-audio is a client and server for having audio programs send their output to a remote client. On the Linux machine that you are logged into, it intercepts the open() symbol in the C library to catch attempts to open the /dev/dsp audio device, and then it serializes the I/O to a your display device, which runs a server to accept connections for this purpose. There is a facility for a simple password check in this protocol, but there is currently no encryption in it, so you probably want to firewall it and only access it from outside of your firewall by a VPN scheme (or extend this software).

    vnc-3.3.3.patch is source code for some VNC optimizations, such as local cursor, gzip compression of the link, special encoding for 1x1 rectangles (which, if I recall correctly, were nearly 50% of rectangles in some tests).

    Wyse also shipped a "regular" X server that ran on an X terminal that could also accept incoming VNC connections to allow remote operation of that terminal. I believe the product was called WT5000. I started working on putting this into XFree86-4.2 and I've put a source snapshot here, but I have no idea if it works (it adds a "-vnc" argument to the X command line to allow incoming VNC connections).

  11. VNC terminal server and other VNC software by Adam+J.+Richter · · Score: 2 · on The State of Remote Desktops?

    Here is some additional VNC-related software that you may find useful. It comes from a project at Wyse a couple of years ago.

    vncd spawns VNC X-windows sessions for incoming connections. It can be run from inetd or by itself. This is handy if you to deploy a bunch of thin clients around a Linux system. It also has a little protocol for negotiating things like display geometry and color depth. If you just sent "DONE" following a line feed to it, it will then start the VNC protocol. See the source code for commands for setting display geometry, color scheme and environment variables in the session.

    remote-audio is a client and server for having audio programs send their output to a remote client. On the Linux machine that you are logged into, it intercepts the open() symbol in the C library to catch attempts to open the /dev/dsp audio device, and then it serializes the I/O to a your display device, which runs a server to accept connections for this purpose. There is a facility for a simple password check in this protocol, but there is currently no encryption in it, so you probably want to firewall it and only access it from outside of your firewall by a VPN scheme (or extend this software).

    vnc-3.3.3.patch is source code for some VNC optimizations, such as local cursor, gzip compression of the link, special encoding for 1x1 rectangles (which, if I recall correctly, were nearly 50% of rectangles in some tests).

    Wyse also shipped a "regular" X server that ran on an X terminal that could also accept incoming VNC connections to allow remote operation of that terminal. I believe the product was called WT5000. I started working on putting this into XFree86-4.2 and I've put a source snapshot here, but I have no idea if it works (it adds a "-vnc" argument to the X command line to allow incoming VNC connections).

  12. Arena by keep_it_simple_stupi · · Score: 1 · on Linux Web Browsers Compared

    Has anyone tried Arena? It's not based on Mosaic, and it's got support for HTML3. It's not quite up to 3.2 yet but maybe it'd be good enough for simple stuff. Here's your link...

  13. Re:I got mugged by Aaton · · Score: 1 · on How Did You Become a UNIX Administrator?
    Well for me I lucked out and meet Krow when I was in College.

    I was hacking around on the VAX system there and had the Admin at the time yelling at me for playing with "sysgen" (been a while so forgive me if I forget the right program). I then asked Krow about what I was doing and well that started the trip towards becomming a Sys Admin.

    Krow showed me the great wall of VMS book in the CS lab. Soon I was missing classes and more offen my meals in the Caf. Which Krow got a kick out of, tricking me to stay latter by showing me a new app or hack in the system. Eventually the VMS machines were being replaced with new Sun 10's. Soon I was installing the Univ. first Sun.

    In our free time Krow was playing and writing drivers for NetBSD (or was it FreeBSD?) I was playing with this new player on in the land of OS's, Linux. Downloading floppies and then eventually getting it on a CD from Yggdrasil 's Fall 1993

    I still wasn't part of the CS depatment till someone figured out that I just need afew more science programs...years latter...with a two degrees under the belt I left with a BS in CS and one in Communications (Film Production)

    Thats now years ago and I'm still working with Krow. Been teaming up from job to job (or tricked into it)...

  14. Re:ftp mirrors by richie2000 · · Score: 1 · on Gnome 2.0 Alpha 1 Released
    A couple of extra spaces crept in to a pair of the links there:

    ftp.yggdrasil.com

    and

    ftp.sunet.se

    should work better. Sorry. (No, I'm NOT just karma whoring! Am not!)

  15. Re:What else do you need? by Adam+J.+Richter · · Score: 2 · on ZDNet Discontinues AppWatch

    What do you need in AppWatch that Freshmeat didn't provide?

    I would like a license filter or license ranking option and an automated update detector such as jdwhatsnew, ideally while still allowing user submitted updates.

    On freshmeat, the updates that you see are generally very current, but, to the best of my knowledge, you only see what people submit. For example, to pick on myself, I see that I have been remiss in submitting an update for the freshmeat entry for the July 17 release of version 1.6 of dvdtape. AppWatch's automated release monitoring provided more uniformity. As the amount of software scales up so that it's more work to double check for updates by visiting individual web sites, the value of this automation increases. Imagine if text search engines only updated from manual submissions.

    By the way, I read Freshmeat daily in addition to AppWatch, but I would usually start with appwatch for its update speed and focus on the type of software that I am most interested in. Then, I would typically visit freshmeat to see what appwatch did not cover and check out the unfree or GPL incompatible software (which I am also interested in monitoring after I've seen what's new in the GPL compatible space). I imagine that people with other copyright preferences might also like a copyright policy filter or prioritizer.

  16. partial list of browsers for you to try by chongo · · Score: 1 · on Linux: Browser Wars
    Which browser is right for you? You can answer that by trying them yourself:

    The article did not review a number of browsers. Here are a some more that you may want to try:

    And how the disclaimers: The list above by no means complete. The browers above were listed in j-random order. Some browsers are in early alpha stage, some in Beta and others are in full release. Some of the browsers may suck, some are OK and some are good. Your mileage may vary. Sorry If I left out your favorite browser. IE was left off the list for obvious reasons. Good while supply lasts or until Bill Gates takes over. I'm not a member of the FCIA. Void where cast as (void).

  17. Reinventing the wheel, logwrites by Adam+J.+Richter · · Score: 1 · on Monitoring What Files Your Applications Leave Behind?

    Nothing against installwatch, but just for everyone's information, logwrites does much the same thing and has been around much longer. logwrites has been available under GPL since May, 1996 and was announced on comp.os.linux.announce on June 18, 1996.

    I think installwatch's distinct features are that it logs some operations that do not create or delete file names (like chown), has a handy shell script command and can use syslog. A distinct feature of logwrites is that it separates the system call traps from the logging into two libraries. The simple logging library can be used elsewhere for recording additional events relevent to installation history in the same format, without invoking the system call trapping. For example, we run modified cp, mv, and install to record where a file came from.

    Both programs are pretty trivial, so the duplication of effort has been tiny. Nevertheless, this situation illustrates that it can save you time to check around for an existing piece of free software before you start coding. You may be surprised what people have already released.

  18. Re:VNC by dan_bethe · · Score: 1 · on Low-Bandwidth X
    Have you guys ever heard of TridiaVNC? Tridia is a company devoted to the development of VNC. They host some good mailing lists, etc. There are ideas out there for embedding VNC inside of Basilisk II so that we can have a MacOS application server, for a sliding scale selection of various compression for various latency/bandwidth usage combinations, and Yggdrasil has added automatic VNC attachment features directly to XFree86 so that you don't have to run your apps in a VNC server first in order to connect to them later and also enjoy fully local performance. Search the mailing lists at http://tridiavnc.com and scour ftp://ftp.yggdrasil.com.

    BTW I think that Win4Lin is making a remote Windows app server which might be based on VNC.

    VNC is like magic, man. That's where it's at. :)

    ===

  19. Re:I see you never used SuSE. by hammock · · Score: 1 · on Linux Distributions Are Too Big

    nope
    Yggdrasil ships world's first Linux DVD9-ROM
    Begins new era for Linux discs.
    San Jose, CA -- September 14, 2000

  20. Re:Moderate Parent (-5, Offensive.) by Froid · · Score: 1 · on Mozilla-KDE Integration

    I say this as a former-Christian, and someone who has read a version of the Bible twice.

    Me too. I've read Yggdrasil's Linux Bible version at least a couple times.

  21. Now, for my next trick, a new release of Arena! by Christopher+B.+Brown · · Score: 3 · on Yggdrasil ships Linux Open Source DVD
    Wow. Yggdrasil is back, after a long hiatus of apparent inactivity.

    By the way, if you look carefully at the DVD page, you'll see that there is actually a way to get the DVD "for free," assuming that either:

    • You are a longsuffering Plug'n'Pray subscriber who has been waiting for five years for the next release, or
    • You are the author of some of the software sitting on the DVD.

    (Does anyone else remember the bad old days when, rather than the relatively modern thing of arguing about whether Slackware was about to set up horrendous and rapacious licensing, or the newbie thing of arguing over the same thing for Red Hat, that the flame wars were over the peculiar way Yggdrasil had created for pulling programs automagically off CD on demand so that you'd only have the stuff you actually used on your hard drive? Boy, there were flame wars back then...)

  22. Re:It also includes DVD-mastering software by mvw · · Score: 5 · on Yggdrasil ships Linux Open Source DVD
    Was it really impossible to burn DVDs under Linux prior to this?

    It might depend on the access method. What we have here is a giant ISO 9660 file system (the format common CD-ROMs use) to access the DVD. This seems indeed not to have been possible due to a kernel limitation in Linux.

    They describe the making of the DVD here, the really interesting link BTW.

    The natural format for such a large optical disc would be UDF of course. I am not sure if this is also on that DVD (or if dual ISO 9660 / UDF discs are possible at all).

  23. I miss my yggdrasil! by linzeal · · Score: 2 · on Red Hat's Linux Market Share Eroding?

    yggdrasil was the first linux distro I ever tried whatever happened to them ?

  24. Re:Complex problem, simple solution by drinkypoo · · Score: 2 · on IE "Persistence" Tracks Without Warning
    Switch to an open source browser! Volunteer developers have no interest in building a browser that's going to spy on it's users...

    Unless, of course, they're an Evil Genius.

    The problem with the available open-source browsers is that they don't have IE's functionality. As lame as IE is, it has better standards support (And I don't mean the M$-defined standards, either) and more functionality (And here I am talking about Micro$haft-specific stuff, like activeX and client-side VBscript.) They also support CSS more fully than any other browser, and last I checked, that included arena, the W3C's (now yggdrasil's)standards-flagship buggy-as-all-hell featureless browser.

    Of course, Arena is basically now all but dead. The only sign of life that I could see is that it still has a webpage. It's been replaced in the W3C with Amaya, which claims it "supports HTML 4.0, XHTML 1.0, HTTP 1.1, MathML 2.0, and many CSS 2 features". Amaya has an ungodly slow display engine.

    By contrast, in a quote from the W3C website (C&P'd from Amaya, BTW) we see the following: "000327 Microsoft shipped Internet Explorer 5 for the Macintosh. It apparently supports full CSS1, the first browser to do so." IE5.5/windows still doesn't do this, reportedly. I don't have a test suite handy, so I can't verify any of this one way or another.

    Mozilla is tres crashy. Netscape is agonizingly slow. Arena is slow and painful, ditto for Amaya. Opera finally has Java working properly, or so I hear (haven't run it recently) so I guess you can take it seriously, but the default layout made me shudder. It's also not as easy to customize (Or at least, to understand what you're doing) as I had thought it would naturally be. I guess the Mac users have a couple of other options, but they're missing major functionality, too, right?

    So what's left? If you discount IE for privacy reasons - nothing. Though I do use Mozilla for Mail, and occasionally K-Meleon to check out a small webpage quickly, or to load something that IE has network problems with. And Netscape and Mozilla both have dramatically faster implementations of Javascript and GIF89a animation.

  25. Re:Complex problem, simple solution by drinkypoo · · Score: 2 · on IE "Persistence" Tracks Without Warning
    Switch to an open source browser! Volunteer developers have no interest in building a browser that's going to spy on it's users...

    Unless, of course, they're an Evil Genius.

    The problem with the available open-source browsers is that they don't have IE's functionality. As lame as IE is, it has better standards support (And I don't mean the M$-defined standards, either) and more functionality (And here I am talking about Micro$haft-specific stuff, like activeX and client-side VBscript.) They also support CSS more fully than any other browser, and last I checked, that included arena, the W3C's (now yggdrasil's)standards-flagship buggy-as-all-hell featureless browser.

    Of course, Arena is basically now all but dead. The only sign of life that I could see is that it still has a webpage. It's been replaced in the W3C with Amaya, which claims it "supports HTML 4.0, XHTML 1.0, HTTP 1.1, MathML 2.0, and many CSS 2 features". Amaya has an ungodly slow display engine.

    By contrast, in a quote from the W3C website (C&P'd from Amaya, BTW) we see the following: "000327 Microsoft shipped Internet Explorer 5 for the Macintosh. It apparently supports full CSS1, the first browser to do so." IE5.5/windows still doesn't do this, reportedly. I don't have a test suite handy, so I can't verify any of this one way or another.

    Mozilla is tres crashy. Netscape is agonizingly slow. Arena is slow and painful, ditto for Amaya. Opera finally has Java working properly, or so I hear (haven't run it recently) so I guess you can take it seriously, but the default layout made me shudder. It's also not as easy to customize (Or at least, to understand what you're doing) as I had thought it would naturally be. I guess the Mac users have a couple of other options, but they're missing major functionality, too, right?

    So what's left? If you discount IE for privacy reasons - nothing. Though I do use Mozilla for Mail, and occasionally K-Meleon to check out a small webpage quickly, or to load something that IE has network problems with. And Netscape and Mozilla both have dramatically faster implementations of Javascript and GIF89a animation.

  26. XFree86 is falling behind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on OpenBSD 2.6 released

    It is too bad that XFree86 4.0 STILL is not out. I thought it was going to be released this fall? I'm surprised that they even bothered to put the XFree86 3.3 in bold on the CD cover. Personally, I think it is embarressing that there still isn't a multi-headed support standard in any of the open source operating systems. It almost seems like the XFree86 group is competting with the Yggdrasil "Ground Zero" project for stagnation award of the year.

  27. Harmony status by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Borland to build JBuilder 3 for Linux

    Harmony is back at Yggdrasil.