Rewriting 'Blame Canada'
Snaller writes, "Quoting USAToday, The Internet Movie Database reports that Trey Parker will rewrite the lyrics for "Blame Canada," the Oscar-nominated song from the South Park movie. The co-producer of the telecast is quoted as saying that Parker 'will come up with some funny solutions to his own problems.'" Leave it alone, I say. The original got the Oscar nod, not the one they'll perform at the awards.
Perhaps they should get Celine Dion to sing the Sheila part... she did say she was retiring to "be a mom" right? After all, Sheila's younger son, Ike, is Canadian... so why not a Canadian Sheila singing "Blame Canada" during the Oscars? Especially since Celine Dion played such a significant role in the Terence & Philip TV-Movie "Not Without My Anus".
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They're going to censor themselves? How stupid - perhaps they should come up with an 'acceptable' version and sabatoge the event to play the uncencored version!
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I'll bet you they won't play this song on the radio
I bet you they won't play this new -BEEP-ing song
It's not that it's -HONK- or -HONK HONK- controversial
just that the -KA_CHING-ing words are awfully strong
You can't say -AHOOGA- on the radio,
or -SWOOSH- or -SPROING- or -AACK-
You can't even say, "I'd like to -ZZZIP- you someday"
unless you're a doctor with a very large -BOING-
I'll bet you they won't play this song on the radio
I'll bet you they won't -SCRRRRATCH-ing well programme it
I'll bet you those -KA-CHING-ing old programme directors
will think it's a load of horse -SPLAT-
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The song wasn't making fun of Canada at all. It made fun of America.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds. - Captain Hammer
As you'll remember, Mary Kay Bergman (who does the voice) died a few months ago. Who will be singing the song? It won't sound the same if she's not singing it.
-- Ever notice that fast-burning fuse looks exactly the same as slow-burning fuse? I didn't... (Edgar Montrose)
For anybody who followed the problems Trey Parker had in getting the South Park movie accepted with an R rating from the MPAA... you should know that he will come up with a way to subvert the censors. :)
What he said in interviews about the movie was that each time they came to him and said he couldn't do something he would put in something 100x worse. Eventually he would put in something the censors didn't understand and so they accepted it. I bet he will do something similar with Blame Canada...
Josh
say, have the song performed as an instrumental during the Oscar show...
ABC is owned by Disney, who is known for changing movie lyrics. _Arabian Nights_ in Aladdin comes immediately to mind...
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The correct URL is http://us.imdb.com/StudioBrief/ 2000/20000222.html#3.
Original uncensored lyrics are available at: http://www.beef-cake.com /interactive/lyrics/blulyrics.html for those of you who want to see what all the fuss is aboot.
What is everybody laughing aboot?
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And isn't how it always is these days? The media senesationalizes whatever they feel like.... without regard to what people actually think.
But south park doesn't matter that much, at least not to its creators. They could give a shit, just as long as they get paid. I guess I didn't do a very good job saying that with my first post.
Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
on a somewhat related note, if Trey wins an oscar for blame canada, is that a sign of the Apocalypse?
Don't get me wrong, I love the south park movie. Orgasmo is hilarious as well. Maybe it would jsut be a good dose of reality for the academy? I think i've seen (or heard the names of) two of the movies that were nominated for best picture.
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The are from colorado. In fact, they took there ACT's or something in the Colombine highschool Cafiteria. There's a real city called south park in Colorado as well.
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Is it just me, or is there really not much to censor in "Blame Canada" in the first place?
Adam Sandler had this great song called "Ode to My Car" I heard one day on the radio, that roughly went, "Ode to my car, my piece of *honk* car," etc.
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By the end of the song, there was as much honking of various types of horns as there was singing. It was great!
I found the CD for it, and it was uncensored! That completely ruined the song.
Anyway, I hope Parker & company use this as an opportunity to censor the song while making fun of the censorship.
I still can't believe that the biggest dig at the MPAA is actually going to have a song aired at the Oscars. That just rules.
However, there's a much more serious ongoing form of censorship: corporate censorship by litigation. The McLibel suit is the most classic example of this, but the attacks on fan sites, parodies (like Negativland - U2 case), artists sites (like Etoy), and the vicious attacks against DeCSS are a much bigger threat to speech. Since words, images, and ideas are treated as property, and corporate reputation is more important than critical investigation, free speech only exists for those with massive legal budgets or absolutely nothing to lose.
I know that I'm preaching to the choir here, but I'd like to know if it would be possible to see federal legislation that penalized SLAPP cases(with extreme prejudice!) and even provided a legal warchest (funded by those who were found guilty of SLAPPs) for those who are accused; I'd like to see it in the context of legislation which removed the 'defend it or lose it' trademark restriction, while affirming the 'first come/first serve' sector-agnostic approach to domain names, and expanding 'fair use' of copyrighted images and texts to more increase protection for fan sites and parodies.
That reminds me of a story I read in one of the big Far Side compliations by Gary Larson.
One day he got an angy call from The Jane Goodall (sp?) Foundation about a Far Side cartoon showing a female gorilla grooming a male gorilla and she's found a blond hair on his back and she's saying something like:
"Another blond hair? You've been hanging around that Jane Goodal tramp, haven't you?"
Mr. Larson called Jane Goodal to apologize for offending her with the cartoon only to find out that no one at The Foundation had bothered to ask her about it; she thaought it was very funny.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
Remove all the naughty words but secretly replace the last note of the song with "The Brown Noise." That would be a memorable performance.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Heh, that particular episode would have made Andy Kaufman proud. It's HIS kind of humor.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Germany has selective Censorship.. see Amazon.com's trouble selling Mein Kampf. I find political censorship far worse than a few f-- words.
The people doing the "deeming" of offensiveness, are the networks themselves, not government thugs. It's a big difference, to me.
Of course, I don't mind a few bleeps in south park. I find that overly-spicy language is just silly, and needless. Why not be funny without it?
But the song is making fun of America not Canada! It's making a joke about how the latest trend in America and American media is to blame everybody else. The less connected to the actual even the better. Canada was just used as a ridiculous example.
It sort of makes me wonder if you understood the point of the whole movie?
This comment is not insightful, and signal 11 does not get their position. They are trying to make money, and they are very up front about it. They don't give a shit about any sort of position that you have read into the movie. Lemmy cation already pointed out that they edited the movie to ensure an R rating from the MPAA, which they did, to make money. Besides, if their success is at all warranted, the new version will be just as effective as the old. They did not get where they are by sucking. I would cite the whole thing with cartmans mom to support the fact that they just go and do what they think is funny. People were pissed about that, and Parker and Stone thought that it was great that they managed to piss people off with their construction paper cartoon.
By the way, they are my favorite kind of celebrity, up for sale and proud of it.
Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
Screw censorship -- what would Brian Boitano do?
Oh sure, the story SAYS it's ABC's fault but I blame those touchy canadians!
It seems a shame to mess with the song. If I were Trey I'd just make liberal use of the "bleep" -- in fact I'd bleep out every other bleeping word weather it needs to be or not -- just to make a point.
Censorship is obscenity.
Blame Canada All four Moms Sheila: Time's have changed Our kids are kids are getting worse They wont obey their parents They just want to fart and curse! Sharon: Should we blame the government? Liane: Or blame society? Dads: Or should we blame the images on TV? Sheila: No, blame Canada Everyone: Blame Canada Sheila: With all their beady little eyes And flappin heads so full of lies Everyone: Blame Canada Blame Canada Sheila: We need to form a full assault Everyone: It's Canadas fault! Sharon: Don't blame me For my son Stan He saw the darn cartoon And now he's off to join the Klan! Liane: And my boy Eric once Had my picture on his shelf But now when I see him he tells me to fuck myself! Sheila: Well, blame Canada Everyone: Blame Canada It seems that everythings gone wrong Since Canada came along Everyone: Blame Canada Blame Canada Some Guy: There not even a real country anyway Ms. McCormick: My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer it's true Instead he burned up like a piggy on a barbecue Everyone: Should we blame the matches? Should we blame the fire? Or the doctors who allowed him to expire? Sheila: Heck no! Everyone: Blame Canada Blame Canada Sheila: With all their hockey hubbabaloo Liane: And that bitch Anne Murray too Everyone: Blame Canada Shame on Canada The smut we must stop The trash we must smash Laughter and fun must all be undone We must blame them and cause a fuss Before someone thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus
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Funny you should say this:
:)
I saw an interview with Issac Hayes (who is 'Chef' on South Park) some time ago, about when he was writing that classic, tender love song, 'The Theme From Shaft'.
At some point, one of the lyrics was:
"You know that Shaft is one bad mother-!@#$%^!#.."
He wrote this down and KNEW that there would be no way to get it past the 60's-era censors or the studio. So, he censored himself and created one of the best musical cliches of all time:
"You know that Shaft is one bad mother-...."
"Shut your mouth!"
"But I'm talking about Shaft!"
"We can dig it..."
Sometimes censorship is good!
They could release a censored version that's entirely toothless - let's say they change:
Times have changed, our kids are getting worse
They's won't obey their parents, they just want to fart and curse!
to
Times have changed, our kids are getting bad
They's won't do what I ask them, they just want to fight their Dad.
to provide a particularly lame example :)
Now, that would be selling out. Which I'd actually say they did anyway in cutting it to drop the rating, but that's another matter.
But that's not the only way to rewrite.
Many people seem to be assuming they're going to rewrite to the style I've suggested, but there's nothing saying they can't rewrite so you have something that's entirely clean and innocent but taking a pop at censorship. Seeing as the original probably wouldn't get bradcast uncensored anyway...
Alternatively, they take a pop at censorship by self-censoring but excessively. Rely on the likely dirty minds in the audience and censor perfectly clean original lyrics to make people think of something worse.
For example:
Two little boys had two little toys
Each had a wooden horse
once got censored on a comedy show to:
Two little boys had two little (beep)
Each had a wooden (beep)
and, in the minds of the audience, a perfectly tasteful (if rather cheesy) song by Rolf Harris becomes absolutely deplorable.
Anyway, don't complain too loudly until we see what they do.
Greg
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How is this song going to be performed?
a) original movie footage?
b) new animation
c) live performance
I would love to see a live performance with guest like Les Claypool and other celbrity fans.
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Beats me... I actually expected to be moderated down for mine, since it's skirting the edges of being a flame. Maybe someone read the first part of your post and thought he was in the Netscape release article?
Oh well, that's the problem with moderation... it lets the 'general public' police itself, but it also lets the 'general public' police itself. At least it doesn't have a permanent effect...
We Canadians *are* a race; Nietsche's(sp?) race of supermen! Due the harsh living of -40 degree temperatures (during summer, no less!), the constant danger presented from high-velocity low flying hockey pucks, and the only companionship coming from frisky polar bears, Canadians have evolved far beyond anything you Americans hosers will *ever* approach. We are a *higher* life: homo superior canadiana.
But seriously, I am Canadian nationalist, loved the song, think it's great for the crew at South Park to be recognized at this level. I haven't heard any bad Canadian backlash because of the song. All my Canadian friends *love* it, none are insulted by it; in fact, most were saying, "Hey, hoser, South Park's even got a song aboot us, eh?" (this is coming from people in a country that has a national apolelxy everytime Canada is refered to on the American media we watch on our bootleg mini-dishes, hooked to the top of the igloo).
"Don't mind me cutting myself on Occam's Razor"
The papers here in Canada thought this was oh so terrible, especially since the song referred to Anne Murray as a bitch.
So a reporter called her up to see what she thought. She thought the song was hilarious.
I guess they were upset that SHE wasn't upset...
shut your fucking mouth, uncle fucker.
Far be it from me to throw meat to the trolls, but this comment should be 'Score: 5, Funny'; It expreses in only 6 words what every other post on this thread attempts to convey to us, the Slashdot readers: censorship sucks.
The Oscars are telling Trey to shut his fucking mouth and he shouldn't. He shouldn't be the uncle fucker that's within all of us. He must leverage his market space in the entertainment industry to further the censorship campaign by embarking on a new journey toward a greater good for the common folk: the uncle fucker.
DON'T SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH, UNCLE FUCKER.
However, if ABC wants them to change anything else in the song, including "bitch", that's not cool. I mean, the Academy knew the song was "demeaning" to Canadians when they nominated it.
I apologize. Slashdot is sorry that it posted something that didn't interest you, personally. If you would please post your personal preferences, Slashdot will be happy to restrict all future articles to only such things that are entirely within your personal definition of "news for nerds", and "stuff that matters".
:). After all, someone must have been interested in the story to have submitted it.
Err.. what's that you say? I'm not qualified to speak for Slashdot? Odd... but I suppose you're qualified to speak for all the 'nerds' who DO believe this story is "stuff that matters" (including the nerds who run this site), huh?
All sarcasm aside, does one article about censorship of a South Park song among the technical and philosophical stories that have been posted today really qualify Slashdot for the jab of "Southparkdot"?
'Nerds' have notoriously varied preferences (check the Jargon file for a good description), and Slashdot does a fairly good job of catering to the most prevelant of those preferences (aside from Jon Katz, of course
You clicked on the article, didn't you? Southpark is(was) subpopculture. Especially among nerds. If you didn't find the article informative, or interesting, why did you click on 'read more'?
Some people have nothing better to do than complain about things.
Modify it and you effectively kill it AND compromise your position. Don't do it.
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Williams quoted Lili Fini Zanuck who is co-producing the telecast with her husband, Richard, as saying that Parker "will come up with some funny solutions to his own problems
See, the thing is, foul language is not funny in and of itself, only when it has shock value, and that tends to wear out quickly. The comedy comes in making the audience come up with the foul language in their heads on their own.
In fact, that's one problem I had with the movie (the other being I generally don't like musicals)... I like how they bleep out The F-Word on the TV series, and don't bleep out much else, because it makes it more funny when you notice how much else doesn't get bleeped!
Another example: The second Austin Powers movie had the montages where they cut off the last word of a sentence where it would have been profanity, then cut to the start of another sentence with the same or a similar sounding word. Again, it's not the profanity that's funny, it's how it's covered up.
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The correct URL for the story in question would be here. The URL in the story goes to today's news, and this was in yesterday's. And if you really don't feel like clicking on the link:
http://us.imdb.com/StudioBrief/2000/20000222.htm l#3
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