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Rewriting 'Blame Canada'
Snaller writes, "Quoting USAToday, The Internet Movie Database reports that Trey Parker will rewrite the lyrics for "Blame Canada," the Oscar-nominated song from the South Park movie. The co-producer of the telecast is quoted as saying that Parker 'will come up with some funny solutions to his own problems.'" Leave it alone, I say. The original got the Oscar nod, not the one they'll perform at the awards.
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I agree. Let's not forget the April Fool's joke when they aired the Terrance and Phillip show instead of revealing who Cartman's Mom was. If they can do that to their fans just imagine what they'll do to the establishment. That epsiode was pure genius.
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she committed suicide. /. archives, there was >= 1 story one it.
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and she's ALL the female characters on south park, so I have no idea who's going to do em now...
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I betcha dollars to donuts the SP kids are gonna show up on Oscar night to announce some category ...
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Yeah, but what would they call it?
"The Director's Cut of South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut!"
(You couldn't get any stupider if you tried to make a recursive acronym. Really...)
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Yeah, reading Southam papers involves supporting Black, but its better than the alternative, which is reading the Sun.
Intolerant people should be shot.
There's a difference between being forced to not speak freely to others, and choosing to not listen. I don't want to read anything from Katz so I just filtered him out...and made a statement indicating my displeasure with his lame non-nerd, non-news articles.
Aha, but you forget that the SP guys can choose not to accept the award, and not play it (and therefore not censor it). This is not a matter of force, it's a matter of choice on either side. And while you speak out about some people not wishing to be offended at an awards ceremony they otherwise wish to watch, you yourself wish not to be offended (perhaps that word is wrong in your case) by articles on a forum you otherwise wish to read. I find that ironic.
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Well, Billy Baldwin is sitting in my office, and he saw this story and says
Didn't he get blow'd up?
;)
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Also as a Canadian, I saw this song to be making fun of everything BUT Canada. I think this is a great tribute to how much Canada is NOT america, which if I understand my high school social studies teacher, is one of the defining elements of our national identity.
I know Trey won't change the theme of the song, and anything he does change will make it more funny. Think about it, would these guys pass up the chance to offend millions of people at one time! Trey won't bow to censorship, he'll find a way around it.
Matt BooneABC would happily destroy anything even close to raunchy if they got a chance to let their censors run with it. Remember Mallrats, and what they did to that? Among other things, they severely digitally edited it because some of the imagery was offensive, and cut quite a few lines (and scenes). Check it out at
http://www.viewaskew.com/tv/abcrats/
to see the full extent of their idiocy. I hope Trey comes up with something that is perfectly legal, but features the SP gang flipping off censorship in general, and ABC in particular.
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That's what Brian Boitano'd do!
Perhaps they should get Celine Dion to sing the Sheila part... she did say she was retiring to "be a mom" right? After all, Sheila's younger son, Ike, is Canadian... so why not a Canadian Sheila singing "Blame Canada" during the Oscars? Especially since Celine Dion played such a significant role in the Terence & Philip TV-Movie "Not Without My Anus".
This is my opinion and my opinion only. Incidentally, IANAL.
MOO;IANAL.
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I know what you mean. Local papers in Canada tried to stir up a fuss about the song being nominated by printing letters from people who were offended and thought the song was racist. In the past we weren't so touchy, heck the song is really making fun of the Americans anyway, yet some people can't let it go.
I think the best person to sing the song would be Anne Murray just because it would be terribly ironic.
Matt & Trey: If you're reading this, don't mess with the song we love it the way it is.
He's "aware" of the ABC censors? Who's to say he's going to be self-censoring it, then? The history and style of the show say that he's going to be making it MORE offensive, not less, given his awareness of the censors. :-)
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
I realize that television standards are more strict than film, but it just seems wrong to rewrite the song. There may be swearing and profanity, but that's the point. SP:BLU worked because it used the language to expose the hypocrisy about the MPAA film guidelines. Take that away, and the message is lost.
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I always shudder when I hear people that people who put down another country are racist. Nationalistic or jingoistic maybe. But it can't be racist. Last I heard Canadian wasn't a race.
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They're going to censor themselves? How stupid - perhaps they should come up with an 'acceptable' version and sabatoge the event to play the uncencored version!
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Mmmm....Sunshine Girls...
<Excerpt=Newspaper>...and when Bambi isn't striving for world peace, she enjoys waterskiing and giving fellatio</excerpt>
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Well, knowing how they bypassed censorship for the movie in the first place, they'll come up with a pretty nifty version, I guess.
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Actually...
I'll bet you they won't play this song on the radio
I bet you they won't play this new -BEEP-ing song
It's not that it's -HONK- or -HONK HONK- controversial
just that the -KA_CHING-ing words are awfully strong
You can't say -AHOOGA- on the radio,
or -SWOOSH- or -SPROING- or -AACK-
You can't even say, "I'd like to -ZZZIP- you someday"
unless you're a doctor with a very large -BOING-
I'll bet you they won't play this song on the radio
I'll bet you they won't -SCRRRRATCH-ing well programme it
I'll bet you those -KA-CHING-ing old programme directors
will think it's a load of horse -SPLAT-
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The song wasn't making fun of Canada at all. It made fun of America.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds. - Captain Hammer
As you'll remember, Mary Kay Bergman (who does the voice) died a few months ago. Who will be singing the song? It won't sound the same if she's not singing it.
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For anybody who followed the problems Trey Parker had in getting the South Park movie accepted with an R rating from the MPAA... you should know that he will come up with a way to subvert the censors. :)
What he said in interviews about the movie was that each time they came to him and said he couldn't do something he would put in something 100x worse. Eventually he would put in something the censors didn't understand and so they accepted it. I bet he will do something similar with Blame Canada...
Josh
Didn't she use like a lead pipe or something?
I read somewhere that they are trying to get a bunch of Canadian celebrities to sing the song...
things. take. time.
say, have the song performed as an instrumental during the Oscar show...
ABC is owned by Disney, who is known for changing movie lyrics. _Arabian Nights_ in Aladdin comes immediately to mind...
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The correct URL is http://us.imdb.com/StudioBrief/ 2000/20000222.html#3.
Original uncensored lyrics are available at: http://www.beef-cake.com /interactive/lyrics/blulyrics.html for those of you who want to see what all the fuss is aboot.
What is everybody laughing aboot?
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Blame Microsoft! Blame Microsoft! With all their dirty little spies and PR flacks so full of lies. Blame Microsoft! Blame Microsoft! (Windows ain't a real OS anyway)
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and she wasn't the one actually doing the kerrigan-whacking; it was her damn moron bodyguard, jeff galoolie [sp]
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As a rule, I usually agree with self-censorship.
Why? Because obscenity is an art form. Just like any other art form, it is often abused or done poorly, and often has to be adjusted for a target audience.
Those who went to the Southpark movie were expecting a great deal of obscenity, and would have been disappointed if they hadn't gotten it from every angle. The point of "Blame Canada" isn't to pummel the audience with obscenity - that was "Uncle Fucker"s job - it is to make fun of the general public's response to many problems. I trust Trey's ability to do that in a way that the Oscar audience can actually apreciate.
Sometimes I hate to admit it, but occasionally I prefer the censored version of some things. My favorite example of this is Insane Clown Posse's "Another Love Song". When God handed out tact, these guys went back for a second helping of obnoxious.
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And isn't how it always is these days? The media senesationalizes whatever they feel like.... without regard to what people actually think.
Hey! It was correct when i mentioned it - perhaps someone changed it? :)
Infact, i also mentioned that here (in Denmark) they don't censor things and you can hear the SouthPark songs on tv and radio, even in the kids programs - someone cut that...it's that damn Slashdot censorship again!
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South Park is an area in colorado. Some of the larger towns include Salida and Alamosa. Really nice place, too bad there's no high-speed access to speak of, or I'd get the hell outta this damned city!
But south park doesn't matter that much, at least not to its creators. They could give a shit, just as long as they get paid. I guess I didn't do a very good job saying that with my first post.
Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
He never said the Radio Song was first.
And his opinions are his, and are just as valid as yours (even though you post like a jerk).
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You must seriously be demented not to have noticed my sarcasm. I mean, why would Iwrite about as ABOOT and point out the fact that I have a flapping head and beady little eyes. Please! I think the song is great and that you should read all of my message before jumping to conclusions.
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on a somewhat related note, if Trey wins an oscar for blame canada, is that a sign of the Apocalypse?
Don't get me wrong, I love the south park movie. Orgasmo is hilarious as well. Maybe it would jsut be a good dose of reality for the academy? I think i've seen (or heard the names of) two of the movies that were nominated for best picture.
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22 Minutes is better IMHO....
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While I totally respect your right to take offence, I also must tell you that you completely missed the entire point of the song. You apparently are unable to recognize sarcasm when you see it, and as such should not be watching a show as full as sarcasm as South Park (And I'm betting you don't and actually pulled this comment out of your a$$ without even examining the lyrics.) The last line redeems the entire song as far as your objections go, showing that the song is actually making fun of people who will blame anything or anyone rather than take responsability for what is in truth at least partially their own fault. The fact of the matter is that they could have substituted any country name for Canada, and the song would have been almost as effective. It wouldn't have been quite as effective because of course Canada is to blame for everything. (Author's Note: for those too ignorant to pick up on it, that was sarcasm and humor, not an actual attack against the country named) I kinda hope they just change the country name in the revised song, and make it Blame America. THAT would be funny, especially when we get to see the response from all the Americans and Canadians who didn't get it in the first place.
I'm a Canadian and I'm proud to be animated with a flip-top head. Air Farce? My mom likes the Air Farce. Try 'This Hour has 22 Minutes'
The are from colorado. In fact, they took there ACT's or something in the Colombine highschool Cafiteria. There's a real city called south park in Colorado as well.
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your right i'm sorry i did have it backwards
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That should have got at least a Score: 1, Funny
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It's not "aboot". Those tossers say "aboat". What kind of boat?
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Is it just me, or is there really not much to censor in "Blame Canada" in the first place?
> Now, if the song crapped on the good 'ol U.S. of A., you'd have Trey's head wouldn't you? Er, no. That's really stupid. There are plenty of songs, articles, editorials, books, poems, paintings, comic strips, movies, plays, and performance art productions that "crap on the good 'ol U.S. of A.," and I don't find them offensive in the least. Furthermore, "Blame Canada" isn't crapping on Canada, it's "crapping" on American racisim, xenophobia, and violence.
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:) on this one!!)
When he said : "If the article doesn't interest you, don't read it", what he really meant was : "Sod off you little bitchmonkey"
And where he stated : "News for Nerds", what he really meant was : "Bite my bunhole you rancid carp buggerer"
Although we must stress that the phrase "Stuff that matters" would be delicatly phrased as "take the grits out of your pants, you kangaroo-abusing flamingo felcher"
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Yes , I'll have to agree with that one. I play hockey with Kurt Browning(Same league, different team - he's Red I'm Brown) and he has a hell of a wrist shot, too.
Not to mention he can literally scat circles around most of us.
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Air Farce lost its edge a few years ago. It now borders on irrelevant. Here's another vote for 22 Minutes (http://www.salter.com/22minutes/22hour.htm).
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i think your wrong. :)
south park is most definatly news for nerds!
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Adam Sandler had this great song called "Ode to My Car" I heard one day on the radio, that roughly went, "Ode to my car, my piece of *honk* car," etc.
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By the end of the song, there was as much honking of various types of horns as there was singing. It was great!
I found the CD for it, and it was uncensored! That completely ruined the song.
Anyway, I hope Parker & company use this as an opportunity to censor the song while making fun of the censorship.
I still can't believe that the biggest dig at the MPAA is actually going to have a song aired at the Oscars. That just rules.
You forget that South Park was a web trend before even the television show. How many times was the Santa vs. Jesus short forwarded to you? Hell, I don't even have cable or a TV, all of my early South Park fascination was from watching episodes on the net. It's part of nerd culture, so a South Park article is just as legitimate as a Star Wars or Monty Python article. It is a scary trend though. One of the first web trends to blow into the mainstream in a big way. Does this mean that in a couple of monthes we'll hear that the whazzup movie is coming soon?
However, there's a much more serious ongoing form of censorship: corporate censorship by litigation. The McLibel suit is the most classic example of this, but the attacks on fan sites, parodies (like Negativland - U2 case), artists sites (like Etoy), and the vicious attacks against DeCSS are a much bigger threat to speech. Since words, images, and ideas are treated as property, and corporate reputation is more important than critical investigation, free speech only exists for those with massive legal budgets or absolutely nothing to lose.
I know that I'm preaching to the choir here, but I'd like to know if it would be possible to see federal legislation that penalized SLAPP cases(with extreme prejudice!) and even provided a legal warchest (funded by those who were found guilty of SLAPPs) for those who are accused; I'd like to see it in the context of legislation which removed the 'defend it or lose it' trademark restriction, while affirming the 'first come/first serve' sector-agnostic approach to domain names, and expanding 'fair use' of copyrighted images and texts to more increase protection for fan sites and parodies.
That reminds me of a story I read in one of the big Far Side compliations by Gary Larson.
One day he got an angy call from The Jane Goodall (sp?) Foundation about a Far Side cartoon showing a female gorilla grooming a male gorilla and she's found a blond hair on his back and she's saying something like:
"Another blond hair? You've been hanging around that Jane Goodal tramp, haven't you?"
Mr. Larson called Jane Goodal to apologize for offending her with the cartoon only to find out that no one at The Foundation had bothered to ask her about it; she thaought it was very funny.
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to worry about. That is until we run out of natural resources. Then look out, you will be annexed. All of Canada except those frogs in Quebec. No one likes them anyway.
The other Canucks are OK. Real gullible and easy to fool. By the time we take them over, it will be too late. See ya at Tim Hortons eh?
Not to Be a dick or anything.... but the "that chef is a bad mother..." "shut your mouth...." "hey man, I'm just the chef...." I believe that came from Pearl Jam's "Dirty Frank" in 1992 off the Even Flow single.... "that Dirty Frank is a bad mother......" "shut your mouth......" "hey man, I'm just talking about Dirty Frank....." it's cool song
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Remove all the naughty words but secretly replace the last note of the song with "The Brown Noise." That would be a memorable performance.
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um, "theme from shaft" is just a wee bit older than pearl jam, so I would imagine you have this backwards
Heh, that particular episode would have made Andy Kaufman proud. It's HIS kind of humor.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
MAn, I honestly think that all of the people posting with things like "Hoser" and "aboot" and "eh" are not really canadians, just pretending/making fun...
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That's my point exactly. I'd rather read biased, poorly edited news than a completely unedited tabloid full of ads that doesn't even bother to try to seem respectable.
Intolerant people should be shot.
Indeed, Orgazmo is quite hilarious. Here in Pittsburgh, it's readily available for rental (and not thrown in with the pornos) at (at least) one local rental store, and it was on some pay cable channel a couple of weeks ago.
It would be nice, though, if more filmmakers simply accepted the NC-17 on mainstream films; if enough of them did this then there would be more of an economic incentive for theaters, rental places, etc. to not blindly shun a film because of the rating. Of course, it'll probably never happen, as the losses would be to high on the first several films to do so.
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I disagree, Blame Canada was a damn good song. Although, if they were going for the less offensive song, they should have picked "What Would Brian Boytano Do?", less cursing, and (imo) a better song.
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just so the people know that i didn't make it up, tell them they have to shave their genitalia to get into heaven!
Thanks for writing. As many of you know, I've been in heaven for about the last 1970 years, and I've got blue balls the size of Idaho. Dad sort of looks down upon fornication in his kingdom, so I'm pretty screwed (not literally; I wish!) whenever I want to lay down with a Heavenly body.
(Sure, I could mosey down to Hell for some hot anal sex, but Dad gets all bitchy about that too. "Just don't bother coming home at all!" Fuck you, asshole! Some of us were born with balls! If you didn't want me to have desires of the flesh, you shouldn't have made me half human!)
So anyway, it's been 2000 years, and I'm ready to FUCK! When the doors My kingdom (okay, it's Dad's kingdom, but I'm paying rent, dammit!) open, you're crazy if you think you're getting in without giving Jesus a little nookie! That's right, spread your legs and prepare for the Savior's coming! (Pun intended! Ha!)
The flipside is that as much as pedophiliac homosexuality has been associated with My church, I'm not gay. So all you guys out there, if you want to get in to Dad's kingdom, (and frankly I couldn't care either way!), you'd better be prepared to do some sick stuff to make me laugh. So yes, if you shave your nuts, that'll probably get you in.
I have spoken. Now I'm going to watch some TV.
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Hey moderaters...how come my message on the same damn topic got marked down, and this guy gets a 2? Sigh...
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assume that by "over there" you're referring to the US. No, there is no true "censorship" in the sense that happens in, say, Singapore or Germany.
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I don't see any connection between somewhat absolutist Regimes like Singapore, and Germany (and yes, I live there
Actually, only in this discussion I heard that in American SP Episodes any expressions are deemed inappropriate and therefore bleeped out. In the dubbed german Episodes, which make excessive use of every German equivalent of f-words, I never noticed a single *bleep*
So much for censorship - considering what americans think obscene (in language and pictures), I'm afraid the US is closer to Singapore than Germany is. Rowlff
In the last two days slashdot pages have been very very slow to load. Is that just me, or is Slashdot slashdotted? I am ~17 hops away according to traceroute. Slashdot is almost always slow for me, but it's been unbearable lately (>30 second wait to load the page, and I'm on cable modem!). But, to go on the topic: Blame Canada really expressed what many Americans think about Canada, but it really didn't diss on Canada, but on the USA. I don't see how Canadians can be *that* offended. Besides, it's all marketing. Americans find it funny when people speak about Canada like this so that is how it's done. It sells.
What irony? There's a difference between being forced to not speak freely to others, and choosing to not listen. I don't want to read anything from Katz so I just filtered him out...and made a statement indicating my displeasure with his lame non-nerd, non-news articles. This in contrast with the SP rewrite issue, which involves one group forcing another to not say certain things to a willing third party...an act which will (I believe) result in the second party saying something even more offensive and embarrass the first party in the process (THAT's where the real irony is).
Freedom to speak includes the freedom to not listen.
Can we get a "-1 Wrong" moderation option?
Dude, if he's doing scat circles around most of you, then who the hell cleans up the ice? And doesn't it smell? I mean, enough to make a circle around most of a team must be a LOT of it.
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You call that an upgrade ?
Lars -
Thanks you for your solid and thought out reply. You pointed out aspects that I didn't consider. I just want to thanks you for your reply. Specifically, that it was not a flame.
I do think we have gone past the point that if it is on the internet it has to be geek material. I mean I can find out what the whether is likely to be tomorrow on the internet, that does not mean water falling out of the sky is news.
I always considered SP to be part of the "Teen subculture" in general. This generation of teens have had internet access a good portion of there lives, so natural teen subculture will "spill" over into it.
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A nice little self-referential bit from last weeks "X-Files". They were doing a "COPS" parody:
Cop: "What the (bleep) are you talking about"
(other dialog)
Scully and Mulder walk away, followed by the camera.
Scully: "Is that thing live?"
Mudler: "Nah...She said (bleep)."
The funniest one on "South Park" was when Kyle's brother is kidnapped by aliens. When Kyle confronts them, he starts out talking with one or to bleeps. As he continues, they increase in frequency until there is nothing but bleeping. Had this been actual unbleeped swearing, it wouldn't have been near as funny.
Just tell Cartman, don't ask your mother to fsck herself.
Did you know that, this movie was originally namely "(something) from Hell" and the censorship would not let the word "hell" to slip through.
Their solution: "bigger, longer and uncut." is 100 times nastier. I expect that these guys are going to pull something "perfectly legal" but "extremely nasty."
Thanks for the opinion. I apprciate someones honest opinion much more then generic flames .
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If The Matrix doesn't pick up the award for best visual effects, I am paying zero attention to the Oscars ever again.
Dude - He's talking about the theme from "Shaft" the 1970's Shaft. That song was around when the guys from Pearl Jam were still in diapers.
Pearl Jam lifted it FROM Issac Hayes.
Welcome to Canada, it's the Maple Leaf state
Canada, oh Canada, it's great!
The people are nice and they speak French, too
If you don't like it, man, you sniff glue
The Great White North, their kilts are plaid
Hosers take off, it's not half bad
I want to be where yaks can run free
Where Royal Mounties can arrest me
Let's go to Canada, let's leave today
They've got trees, and mooses, and sled dogsCanada, oh, Canada, I Sil Vous Plait
Lots of lumber, and lumberjacks, and logs
We all think it's kind of a drag
That you have to go there to get milk in a bag
They say "eh?" instead of "what?" or "duh?"
That's the mighty power of Canada
I want to be where lemmings run into the sea
Where the marmosets can attack me
Let's go to Canada, let's leave today
Canada, oh, Canada, I Sil Vous Plait
Please, please, explain to me
How this all has come to be
We forgot to mention something here
Did we say that William Shatner is a native citizen?
And Slurpees made from venison
That's deer
Let's go to Canada, let's leave today
Canada, oh, Canada, I Sil Vous Plait
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But the song is making fun of America not Canada! It's making a joke about how the latest trend in America and American media is to blame everybody else. The less connected to the actual even the better. Canada was just used as a ridiculous example.
It sort of makes me wonder if you understood the point of the whole movie?
This comment is not insightful, and signal 11 does not get their position. They are trying to make money, and they are very up front about it. They don't give a shit about any sort of position that you have read into the movie. Lemmy cation already pointed out that they edited the movie to ensure an R rating from the MPAA, which they did, to make money. Besides, if their success is at all warranted, the new version will be just as effective as the old. They did not get where they are by sucking. I would cite the whole thing with cartmans mom to support the fact that they just go and do what they think is funny. People were pissed about that, and Parker and Stone thought that it was great that they managed to piss people off with their construction paper cartoon.
By the way, they are my favorite kind of celebrity, up for sale and proud of it.
Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
Does it matter whether censorship occurs because of government intervention or because of fear of retribution by the public? The end result is the same, regardless of what you choose to call it.
A truly free society is one in which it is safe to be unpopular. Think about that quote for awhile and reflect on it - because after awhile you'll realize the US isn't "free" in that sense, and neither is 95% of the rest of the people on this planet.
I can't change that - I could try to feed everyone on the planet and give away all my money trying to accomplish that but it would make little difference - the task is too big for me, or even a large group of people like me, to make any impact. The problem is THAT big. So I pick something smaller - because it's big enough to matter and small enough to win.
South Park happens to be one small thing that matters enough, and is small enough, that I can make a difference on, hence my post.
Screw censorship -- what would Brian Boitano do?
Oh sure, the story SAYS it's ABC's fault but I blame those touchy canadians!
It seems a shame to mess with the song. If I were Trey I'd just make liberal use of the "bleep" -- in fact I'd bleep out every other bleeping word weather it needs to be or not -- just to make a point.
Censorship is obscenity.
Blame Canada All four Moms Sheila: Time's have changed Our kids are kids are getting worse They wont obey their parents They just want to fart and curse! Sharon: Should we blame the government? Liane: Or blame society? Dads: Or should we blame the images on TV? Sheila: No, blame Canada Everyone: Blame Canada Sheila: With all their beady little eyes And flappin heads so full of lies Everyone: Blame Canada Blame Canada Sheila: We need to form a full assault Everyone: It's Canadas fault! Sharon: Don't blame me For my son Stan He saw the darn cartoon And now he's off to join the Klan! Liane: And my boy Eric once Had my picture on his shelf But now when I see him he tells me to fuck myself! Sheila: Well, blame Canada Everyone: Blame Canada It seems that everythings gone wrong Since Canada came along Everyone: Blame Canada Blame Canada Some Guy: There not even a real country anyway Ms. McCormick: My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer it's true Instead he burned up like a piggy on a barbecue Everyone: Should we blame the matches? Should we blame the fire? Or the doctors who allowed him to expire? Sheila: Heck no! Everyone: Blame Canada Blame Canada Sheila: With all their hockey hubbabaloo Liane: And that bitch Anne Murray too Everyone: Blame Canada Shame on Canada The smut we must stop The trash we must smash Laughter and fun must all be undone We must blame them and cause a fuss Before someone thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus
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My MP3 ripper seems to have cut out a bit early for whatever reason, but I can't hear anything that should need to be removed. The only thing I hear is the f-word once. Couldn't that just be bleeped? That way they wouln't have to find anouther person to voice it. Because they're going to have a hard time finding someone who can do the voices exactly the same.
Funny you should say this:
:)
I saw an interview with Issac Hayes (who is 'Chef' on South Park) some time ago, about when he was writing that classic, tender love song, 'The Theme From Shaft'.
At some point, one of the lyrics was:
"You know that Shaft is one bad mother-!@#$%^!#.."
He wrote this down and KNEW that there would be no way to get it past the 60's-era censors or the studio. So, he censored himself and created one of the best musical cliches of all time:
"You know that Shaft is one bad mother-...."
"Shut your mouth!"
"But I'm talking about Shaft!"
"We can dig it..."
Sometimes censorship is good!
Slashdot bug. The formatting went back to my default after I previewed. Very annoying. Please moderate down.
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They could release a censored version that's entirely toothless - let's say they change:
Times have changed, our kids are getting worse
They's won't obey their parents, they just want to fart and curse!
to
Times have changed, our kids are getting bad
They's won't do what I ask them, they just want to fight their Dad.
to provide a particularly lame example :)
Now, that would be selling out. Which I'd actually say they did anyway in cutting it to drop the rating, but that's another matter.
But that's not the only way to rewrite.
Many people seem to be assuming they're going to rewrite to the style I've suggested, but there's nothing saying they can't rewrite so you have something that's entirely clean and innocent but taking a pop at censorship. Seeing as the original probably wouldn't get bradcast uncensored anyway...
Alternatively, they take a pop at censorship by self-censoring but excessively. Rely on the likely dirty minds in the audience and censor perfectly clean original lyrics to make people think of something worse.
For example:
Two little boys had two little toys
Each had a wooden horse
once got censored on a comedy show to:
Two little boys had two little (beep)
Each had a wooden (beep)
and, in the minds of the audience, a perfectly tasteful (if rather cheesy) song by Rolf Harris becomes absolutely deplorable.
Anyway, don't complain too loudly until we see what they do.
Greg
Greg
(Inside a nuclear plant)
Aaaarrrggh! Run! The canary has mutated!
How is this song going to be performed?
a) original movie footage?
b) new animation
c) live performance
I would love to see a live performance with guest like Les Claypool and other celbrity fans.
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Beats me... I actually expected to be moderated down for mine, since it's skirting the edges of being a flame. Maybe someone read the first part of your post and thought he was in the Netscape release article?
Oh well, that's the problem with moderation... it lets the 'general public' police itself, but it also lets the 'general public' police itself. At least it doesn't have a permanent effect...
We Canadians *are* a race; Nietsche's(sp?) race of supermen! Due the harsh living of -40 degree temperatures (during summer, no less!), the constant danger presented from high-velocity low flying hockey pucks, and the only companionship coming from frisky polar bears, Canadians have evolved far beyond anything you Americans hosers will *ever* approach. We are a *higher* life: homo superior canadiana.
But seriously, I am Canadian nationalist, loved the song, think it's great for the crew at South Park to be recognized at this level. I haven't heard any bad Canadian backlash because of the song. All my Canadian friends *love* it, none are insulted by it; in fact, most were saying, "Hey, hoser, South Park's even got a song aboot us, eh?" (this is coming from people in a country that has a national apolelxy everytime Canada is refered to on the American media we watch on our bootleg mini-dishes, hooked to the top of the igloo).
"Don't mind me cutting myself on Occam's Razor"
The papers here in Canada thought this was oh so terrible, especially since the song referred to Anne Murray as a bitch.
So a reporter called her up to see what she thought. She thought the song was hilarious.
I guess they were upset that SHE wasn't upset...
Well, if you are bitching about it, its nothing new at all. Search back in the archives a year or two, you'll see that they were covering South Park even way back then. And I do consider South Park a show that geeks watch, although not 'geeky' persay. Similar to how Teletubbies is watched by stoners, although not aimed towards or made about (as far as we can tell that is) stoners. Just remember, geek culture is more than just coding and hacking and such.
I guess it didn't hurt Isaac Hayes, because he ended up winning the Best Song Oscar for the theme from "Shaft".
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shut your fucking mouth, uncle fucker.
Far be it from me to throw meat to the trolls, but this comment should be 'Score: 5, Funny'; It expreses in only 6 words what every other post on this thread attempts to convey to us, the Slashdot readers: censorship sucks.
The Oscars are telling Trey to shut his fucking mouth and he shouldn't. He shouldn't be the uncle fucker that's within all of us. He must leverage his market space in the entertainment industry to further the censorship campaign by embarking on a new journey toward a greater good for the common folk: the uncle fucker.
DON'T SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH, UNCLE FUCKER.
I can only pity you for your inability to percieve and understand the concepts of sarcasm and humor. Let me respond to your questions in order. >If it is a not an attack to a particular country, then why 'Blame Canada' at the first place? While sometimes it may not seem like it, South Park is set in the "Real World." Therefore it would be ludicrous to use an imaginary country in this context. However as you apparently failed to read in my original post, they could just have easily used any country name instead of Canada and been just as effective in getting there message accross, as well as just as humorous. Canada or Mexico were the obvious choices because they are neighbors to the U.S. and as such are obvious targets for the idiocys of the fictional adults. >With only lyrics as a mean of communication, how can YOU be so sure what's behind the song writer's hideous mind? BECAUSE the lyrics make it clear to anyone with half a brain or more. Listen to the last line of the song. Or read it in the above post. Look at the overall context of the song, and the voices within it. Grow a little bit thicker skin and actually examine the evidence before pronouncing judgement. >Did the song tell you the writer does not mean to attack the country? I must admin you are right on this one. Perhaps he meant both to make sarcastic fun of those who choose to find a boogie man instead of taking responsibility and working towards solutions AND attack Canada.... I doubt it, but maybe. >If it does, then does it tell you why choose Canada? As I said before, the song works just as well with any US Neighbor. Why in the world would you expect the song to tell you why Canada was arbitrarily chosen? Perhaps you would like lyrics that say: Who are we going to blame? We've got to find a stooge. Let's play the country game. And put some names in a hat. The one we pull out is the one that we'll blame. Well! It's Canada today though they're really all the same. >You give the writer too much credit for something the writer simply does not deserve. Actually I just gave you too much credit for believing that you would be able to comprehend my post if you couldn't comprehend the song. >If the writer is screwed because it is incapable of deliver message correctly and unimbiguously, then it is the person's fault. If the listener is screwed up because he or she is incapable of comprehending the message correctly simply because it is not delivered plainly, it is the listener's fault. ~I don't know why I bother... You'll never figure it out -- Me.
hey I missed that.. what happened to her? does anyone have a link? what are they going to do or the sheila brofslovski (sp?) character now?
However, if ABC wants them to change anything else in the song, including "bitch", that's not cool. I mean, the Academy knew the song was "demeaning" to Canadians when they nominated it.
I apologize. Slashdot is sorry that it posted something that didn't interest you, personally. If you would please post your personal preferences, Slashdot will be happy to restrict all future articles to only such things that are entirely within your personal definition of "news for nerds", and "stuff that matters".
:). After all, someone must have been interested in the story to have submitted it.
Err.. what's that you say? I'm not qualified to speak for Slashdot? Odd... but I suppose you're qualified to speak for all the 'nerds' who DO believe this story is "stuff that matters" (including the nerds who run this site), huh?
All sarcasm aside, does one article about censorship of a South Park song among the technical and philosophical stories that have been posted today really qualify Slashdot for the jab of "Southparkdot"?
'Nerds' have notoriously varied preferences (check the Jargon file for a good description), and Slashdot does a fairly good job of catering to the most prevelant of those preferences (aside from Jon Katz, of course
You clicked on the article, didn't you? Southpark is(was) subpopculture. Especially among nerds. If you didn't find the article informative, or interesting, why did you click on 'read more'?
Some people have nothing better to do than complain about things.
... that they [Trey Parker] will rewrite the lyrics for "Blame Canada"
... maybe someone needs to lighten up ;-)
Now Canada isn't good enough to be used in Jokes??
As a Canadian I found the "original" song to be hilarious. Hey, if you can't laugh at yourself
This guy should check out "Royal Canadian Air Farce", some of the best political humour around.
Cheers
Parker claims that he got the MPAA censors to change the South Park rating down to an R by adding more hysterically filthy material. Even the censor-approved title (South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut) is more crude/disgusting than the milder-yet-censored original title (South Park: All Hell Breaks Loose). With that history, have no fear: Parker surely will come up with an even more raunchy version of Blame Canada and get it aired before the censors realize they've been had.
Can we get a "-1 Wrong" moderation option?
Modify it and you effectively kill it AND compromise your position. Don't do it.
IMHO, Blame Canada was one of the weakest songs in the production, but was chosen because it was the least offensive. Uncle Fukkah was by far my favorite, but there was no possible way that anything short of a total lyrics overhaul would make it prime-time friendly.
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I want the lyrics for all the songs, especially this one, but ask jeeves didn't give me anything good. --Joey
War does not determine who is right Only who's left
C'mon..they're just kidding. They must be! No one could be THAT stupid to think that the song is really anti-Canadian. Unless of course they just looked at the song title and never bothered to:
(a) Read the lyrics
(b) Watch the movie
(c) Think for even one second
Most likely it was all of the above, or, in my wettest dreams where there are no morons:
(d) They arent completely stupid, and are actually being sarcastic about taking such an obviously sarcastic song seriously.
The entire movie is based on the Canada-haters being IDIOTS, and the Heroes, the boys, stopping their warrantless anti-Canadian drivel. You would have to be seriously fucked up to pay any attention to the movie, or even just the song, and still believe they have anything against Canada.
Oh boy... well, thanks for the your lenghty reply.
No wonder people get so upset if you happen to swear online!
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I live in a free country...do you?
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I think we all should blame Canada. Thoes stupid Geese are so annoying,just like Terence and Phillip. First they invade our country without our concent, then all they do is crap all over the place. And while they're doing it they're going "Hahhhh silly americans and their silly american grass. [fart] haaahhhhh." All Canadians Are alike
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You can keep Anne Murray. As a Canadian, I am glad that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are going to rewrite the lyrics to a song so blantently offensive to my fellow countrymen. It gross when you think that the Canadian minority in this country have to shudder and hide their faces whenever this song is played. It broke my heart to think that all Americans feel this way about my homeland. It makes me want to bomb the Arquettes and the Baldwins. My beady litle eyes and my flapping head are gald that the creators of South Park are putting an elightened and sensitive message on the issue of the plight of my people. I really don't know what the fuss was all ABOOT! HA HA.
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Williams quoted Lili Fini Zanuck who is co-producing the telecast with her husband, Richard, as saying that Parker "will come up with some funny solutions to his own problems
See, the thing is, foul language is not funny in and of itself, only when it has shock value, and that tends to wear out quickly. The comedy comes in making the audience come up with the foul language in their heads on their own.
In fact, that's one problem I had with the movie (the other being I generally don't like musicals)... I like how they bleep out The F-Word on the TV series, and don't bleep out much else, because it makes it more funny when you notice how much else doesn't get bleeped!
Another example: The second Austin Powers movie had the montages where they cut off the last word of a sentence where it would have been profanity, then cut to the start of another sentence with the same or a similar sounding word. Again, it's not the profanity that's funny, it's how it's covered up.
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The orignial songs didn't curb itself to the censors and neither did the movie. That is what made the movie so good. Dont go rewriting the song now because you dont have to cowtow to the Man!
Who cares? What would Brian Orser do? or Elvis Stojko? or ....
Never mind.
Always a brides maid, never a Bride.
Never by hatred has hatred been appeased, only by kindness - the Buddha
The correct URL for the story in question would be here. The URL in the story goes to today's news, and this was in yesterday's. And if you really don't feel like clicking on the link:
http://us.imdb.com/StudioBrief/2000/20000222.htm l#3
Enjoy.
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