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Linsider Launched

Fred Palmer writes: "Linsider was launched recently. We're featuring lots of business-related news, profiles for every major Linux company, stock information, content licensed under the OpenContent license, and much more. You can read our press release, or skip straight to the home page. " We don't usually post new sites, but there's been a lot of word going around about Linsider/Linsight and what its aim is. Post-LinuxToday, Dave Whitinger [?] was rumoured to be spending a lot of time working on Linsight and this -- and it looks like it was worth the effort.

61 comments

  1. Looks cool, but... by toofast · · Score: 1

    I get all my latest news and reading done at Slashdot, so I don't need another site

    :-)

    1. Re:Looks cool, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      If you were a new site and wanted to get the hit counts up for possible advertisers, where would YOU want the announcement?

    2. Re:Looks cool, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Umm, err, ahh, uhh, huh? What?
      The following is not a rhetorical question:

      Why is this moderated as (at least when I read it, meta-moderation may have rectified this) a troll?

      Honestly, I'm asking for help here. I really want to know. If someone could take the time to explain this to me, I would be grateful.

      Thanks in advance,
      AC

    3. Re:Looks cool, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Why is this moderated as (at least when I read it, meta-moderation may have rectified this) a troll?
      Meta moderation did fix it.

      Honestly, I'm asking for help here. I really want to know. If someone could take the time to explain this to me, I would be grateful.
      Moderators are all on crack, just dumping mod points on the first couple of posts is always good for getting rid of at least three.

  2. news for nerds is news for me by gavinmead · · Score: 0

    why leave the warm, glowing goodness that is /.?

  3. this commercialism is sickening by alsogut · · Score: 1

    need i say more

    1. Re:this commercialism is sickening by gaudior · · Score: 2

      Commercialism pays the bills. Whether it's free beer OR free speech, someone has to pick up the tab. If this means advertising, or corporate sponsorship, or even, shudder selling software, money must move from place to place. Someone has to pay for the wires, servers and electricity.

      ObTopic: This is an excellent looking site. It's well organized and clean. I appreciate the wide variety of content exports supported. I haven't had a chance to delve deeply, but I will bookmark it, and check back to see how it holds up.

  4. I double took on the name... by Dextius+Alphaeus · · Score: 2

    For some reason I kept thinking of that Michael Mann movie "The Insider" ... Visions of Al Pacino running around yelling at the top of his lungs about some kind of conspiracy to keep Linux in the dark or something.. (Hey wait a minute, that would be kind of cool!)

    -Dextius Alphaeus

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    1. Re:I double took on the name... by m3000 · · Score: 1

      I kept thinking of Nintendo's Nsider. They sound a whole lot alike after all.

  5. Nice site compilation by RancidPickle · · Score: 2

    The new Linsider site seems to boil new Linux information down to it's essence. While /. does report Linux information, they have a broader net to cast (and a cast of crazies to keep me coming back). Linsider looks like it can be the spot for Linux news. I wonder how this new site will impact the smaller, non-commercial sites run by Linux fans. We'll see how it goes.

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  6. Damned if you do, damned if you don't by toofast · · Score: 1

    Is /. posts something new without taking the time to investigate it, they could be bashed by people like you and I for "not doing their journalist's job" and being "irresponsible".

    But if they _do_ check it out, and realize the scoop is real and worth writing, then people like you and I criticize the story as being old news.

    Nobody's forcing you to read it, just check the headlines. If it's old, move on!

    :-)

    1. Re:Damned if you do, damned if you don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, like i'm so sure it takes them 3 weeks to validate some of the stories they post

    2. Re:Damned if you do, damned if you don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this just in: lucasfilm has officially announced that star wars: episode one: the phantom menace will be released to theatres around the world in spring of 99. no official date was set, but star wars fans are excited abotu the news

  7. Other stock sites by robr · · Score: 5

    I'd just like to say that linsider isn't the only investment site focusing on linux companies. there are a few like OSInvestor, LinuxStockNews, and LWN's Stock Page, to name only 3.

  8. what we have here... by ren-tzu · · Score: 1

    Alright so now we have a web page where we can stick all of the people trying to make a buck off of Linux the good ol' fashioned Ameriacn way.... ohh beautiful for spacious skies...

  9. Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey! Oh That's Great. Redhat, Information Technology, Support, and certification were easily found by me.

    I'm exicted to see all this info about certs (like RHCE) indepth at a site...congrats Linsider =)

    *just found out there is a LPI cert*

  10. The stock quote choices laid bare by Effendi13 · · Score: 1

    I like the choices in stocks to display. I see Inprise on there...

    I wonder if SlashDot and Linsider will be checking each other's sites to see if they missed anything.

    -Effendi

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  11. bring on the back end? by eries · · Score: 3
    Obviously built in PHP, but anyone know what the back-end code looks like? Do they use an open-source PHP project like PHPslash?

    It would be cool if more OSS sites would publish their own source code, ala /. (or whenever Rob gets around to it ;))


    Want to work at Transmeta? Hedgefund.net? Priceline?

    1. Re:bring on the back end? by fredpalmer · · Score: 3
      E. J. Wells developed the entire thing from the ground up, and we're working to release the code for people to use.

      Give us time - we just launched the site less than a week ago. :)

    2. Re:bring on the back end? by eries · · Score: 2
      no criticism implied. look forward to checking out the source. i wrote all the PHP for my site (www.CatalystRecruiting.com) and have been contemplating converting it into an open-source project. Maybe we should compare notes...

      Eric

      Want to work at Transmeta? Hedgefund.net? Priceline?

  12. Re:pissed off moderator? by toofast · · Score: 0

    I agree. I have the #1 post in this story, and one moderator flagged it as Funny (as I intended it), another as a Troll.

    hehe oh well, I guess we can't please everyone.

  13. Re:pissed off moderator? by ubertroll · · Score: 0

    Oh no, poor little boy has his #1 post moderated down. And he was so proud of it. Isn't that sad?

  14. site design. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    All the news stories appear on a one-inch column on the left side of the screen. Scroll past the quotes, and you get 90% of the page being blank, with all the news crammed in the left 10%.

    Who's the freakin' designer that works for Linsight? get a freakin' clue!

  15. Re:Can Someone Tell Me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Why is this off-topic? If the moderators read the article and visited the site PRIOR to using their points, maybe this wouldn't happen.

    BTW, the slider is referenced in the article and on the site, also the cross reference to greasy hamburgers is sort of funny.

    Wake up mod's, sheeash. +2 Funny

  16. Re:Can Someone Tell Me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sliders are very small burgers that you can usually eat in one bite. they are so rediculously small that they are funny. they are no longer as popular due to mcdonalds producing hamburgers which are just as small

  17. No RSS? by SnatMandu · · Score: 2

    I'd have thought they'd offer their content for syndication via RSS. Anyone have any idea why they seem to have gone with a proprietary XML format for syndication?

    They *do* offer a Perl backend-syndication program to parse the XML, but I've already got some nice RSS tools. Integrating their stuff shouldn't be too hard, but putting another line in my RSS-reader's config file would be easier.



    1. Re:No RSS? by nomadic · · Score: 1

      Why do you call XML proprietary? Seems just about as open as a data format can be, and it's gaining popularity as a syndication format over formats like RSS or anpa precisely because of that openness...

    2. Re:No RSS? by Quixotic · · Score: 1

      I dont think he's calling XML proprietary... just that they should also provided a RSS formatted XML backend as well, which is a well established syndication format already used by many sites. Granted it's not hard to translate their XML into RSS...

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  18. Re:pissed off moderator? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was moderated UP, asshole.

  19. Re:HOBBITZZZ MAKE THE WORLD GO ROUNG!!!!1111!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they also cant spell

  20. WTF, This is killing Open Source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    Folks, I know this is going to get hammered, but hear me out. Having all these wall street types wired in with Nasdaq, SYSE, FTSI etc. is going to be the death of open source as we know it.

    First off, shareholders in dot coms are the ones behind the DMCA and all the noise it represents. Having a dedicated stock site, dedicated to linux and open source just feeds the machine.

    Second, if you like open souce being open, al la EFF morals and viewpoint, you must not support franchises like these. On the surface they look inviting, get rich quick, eye candy for the community, look folks we've hit the big time with our little linux underdog. Keep it up and the same folks who are making it tought to copy DVD's are going to be regulating what we now know as open source.

  21. Great...what we need now is... by Alkaiser · · Score: 2

    All of them to go and flame LinuxOne. My friends and I were going to take the Mandrake installation, and swap out ALL of the logos and names, and then market it as "Linux2000...2000 times better than LinuxOne." (Because...2000 * 0 is still 0.) But, alas...someone already took the Linux2000 domain name...and anything else nearly related to it we could find...sigh...

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    1. Re:Great...what we need now is... by dattaway · · Score: 2

      Here's something for you LinuxOne fans. I hit the floor laughing at this. I'll have it up for a few hours, so mirror early, mirror often.

  22. Re:pissed off moderator? by ubertroll · · Score: 0
    Oh, really? In that case:

    moderators, please read the guidelines before moderating. At least get a clue before moderating. I saw several moderations that were totally unfair, and you guys wonder why people troll.

  23. Re:pissed off moderator? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It just got moderated down again, asshole

  24. yes this is redundant... by celestial13 · · Score: 1

    yes this is redundant for me saying... its a nice site, but im not impressed. there are othere sites that do the same but havent had the same press coverage as this on has.

  25. Let's see... by GeorgeH · · Score: 2

    What do we have here? The Linside Track, Search Linsider, Company Index and Linvestor Summary.

    Shouldn't that be Company Linudex? It's not as annoying as the rest of them.
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    Why can't I moderate something "Wrong" or at least "Grossly Misinformed"?
    1. Re:Let's see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Actually, it would be, 'Company Lindex' to maintain consistency with the others.

      I'm sorry, your .sig was asking for it. . .

  26. Re:HOBBITZZZ MAKE THE WORLD GO ROUNG!!!!1111!!!!!! by celestial13 · · Score: 0

    ugh, i did notice that there were alot more troll scores this post... but i think this one deserved a -2 troll who eats live trout

  27. From the 'who cares' dept. by Blue+Lang · · Score: 1

    Yet Another Company tried again today to 'capitalize' on the 'nascent' 'linux market' today by offering up the following stunning breakthrough in marketing technology:

    A portal! Look mom! Look! It's got BOXES! LOOK! No, it's cool, see, those are STOCKS! And, wait, get this, it will be CUSTOMIZABLE!

    Everyone knows php3 is passe these days. If you aren't using servlets, you're yawnsville.

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    1. Re:From the 'who cares' dept. by fredpalmer · · Score: 1

      You might notice that we have no banner ads on the site (nor will we ever). We're not trying to make any money on this... We're just providing a good service.

    2. Re:From the 'who cares' dept. by istartedi · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows php3 is passe these days. If you aren't using servlets, you're yawnsville.

      Everybody knows trying to use the latest technology just because some jerk thinks it's cools is passé. If you aren't using tried and true technology that's proven to work, you're crashville.

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      For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
    3. Re:From the 'who cares' dept. by Photon+Ghoul · · Score: 1

      PHP3 passe? Servlets? HA. So we're supposed to jump onto the latest "Xlets" from Sun to be "cool"?

      I like Java's OO and everything, but do I *really* need to run cross-platform code for a single platform? What a waste....

    4. Re:From the 'who cares' dept. by Blue+Lang · · Score: 1

      Get yer asbestos undies on, kids -

      Hi Fred:

      First, I don't know who you are, or to what depth your involvement with linsite extends. Please don't take the things I say personally. I am a person of strong opinions and no ready wealth of tact when it comes to expressing them.

      You might notice that we have no banner ads on the site (nor will we ever). We're not trying to make any money on this... We're just providing a good service.

      In fact, I did notice exactly that. In fact, I considered posting exactly that in response to the post above about posting the opening of your site to /. - but then I read your site, and, well..

      I mean, come on Fred, LOOK at it. It's a portal, and it's not even a very interesting one. There's no sign of tux, no blessings by St. Larry.. just brown table-tops and lots of stock quotes. THIS is 'linsite?' Insight, into linux? No, no, in fact, it is not. It's a late-to-market, sub-par, CFO-friendly portal. And you didn't even release your php scripts for the kiddies. So, you know, you provide whatever service ya like, but if you post it to /., you take your lumpy soup like the rest of em.

      If your site really WAS interesting, if it really DID have value, I'd have either posted a thank you, or not have posted at all. What do you want? You want me to thank you for not having banner ads? You want me to thank you for not having a profit motive? It's old hat, G. It's old hat, and it's bullshit. That site isn't free. Someone, somewhere, wants to make money off of it. In fact, consider this a challenge - you said you're not trying to make money, you said you're trying to provide good service - do either, do both. Give it up. Gimme some value. What are you doing? Where is the value? Search engines? A calendar? The same stories posted in different order under different headings all over your site? A fucking article talking about linux putting fucking AUSTRALIA on the software development map by the laughingstock of the IT industry? Cuz, you know, nothing good has ever come out of Australia, right? Do you have any idea how disgusting that article is? No? Here ya go:

      "Australia has a great deal of creativity and a multicultural background to fuel content creation. Australia has always developed very sensitive content that probably would not be made in the US and Asia," he said. "

      This is pure, 100% corporate, spin-laden, rhetorical, look-at-me-talk-and-say-nothing, BULLSHIT. Excuse me while I throw up. When I'm done, I'll clean my chin with SGI stock.

      Have I made my point yet?

      Ok, how about this. The very first item on Atipa.com's leetle web page is mention of a $30 million investment. Now.. Are you going to claim that none of the work done on linsite is done without the intention of furthering corporations that deal in linux solutions? Are you going to posit that just because linsite itself is monentarily valueless, there is not cash generated by its existence? Is linsite NPO? Doesn't seem to be.. In fact, it looks to me like everything on it is (C) of the Atipa corporation. Hmmmmm.

      Wake up, clue in, and give us kernel patches. (yes, yes, yes, i realize SGI talks a lot about doing that - don't even bother to flame me with how great XFS for linux is, cuz i'll only laugh at you) If you encourage the corporatization of linux, then you are in it for the money, because corporations are about making money - the value they add to MY (free) linux is tertiary to the value they perceive (wrongly, i believe history will prove) that can be reaped from servicing it.

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      blue, unofficial /. agitant to the masses.

      And, to the two morons at the bottom of this thread - come the fuck ON, people. If you can't recognize the sarcasm in my trumpeting servlets, you might really wanna go back to reading the mushroom, or something.

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      i browse at -1 because they're funnier than you are.
  28. The moderator-kiddies strike again by para_droid · · Score: 1

    There is some idiot moderating down posts that he disagrees with, and unless you read at -1, you wont even notice he's doing it.

    1. Re:The moderator-kiddies strike again by para_droid · · Score: 1

      I forgot to mention, you have to click 'parent' to see the post I was refering too...

    2. Re:The moderator-kiddies strike again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know, this was my post and I meant it. If we give up the helm to the corporate raiders, the open source movement, effort, whatever will be doomed. We'll end up working for the bigger M$ type companies.

  29. I was thinking to myself... by fluxrad · · Score: 0

    what the world really needs is another website dedicated strictly to linux. I'm not getting enough linux by going just to linux.com, slashdot, freshmeat, linux.org, tux, etc. - thank you linsider...my life is now complete!


    -FluX
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  30. Re:Can Someone Tell Me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    BZZZZZT! Wrong anser Rick, but thanks for playing.

    Look sliders are Greasy burgers. They got their name from being so Greasy they slid off the bun. Your thinking of the original name for hamburgers, this coming from the term "hand burger, which was the original name for the little two inch burgers that White Castle marketed beginning in 1952. The original "had burger" was ripped off of a German immigrant in NYC, who used to make "Chopped Hand Steak", which was essentially a hamburger wrapped up in a sort of pita bread.

    By the way, there is an "a" in MacDonalds, it's Scottish in heritage, not Irish.

    Next time you want to come off as a "Smart guy", try doing a little research first.

  31. Nice site in text! by jemfinch · · Score: 1

    I just swung over there in my favorite text only browser (I've been holding off on X this install until 4.0 came out. It's out now, and it's compiling already :-)) w3m, and it was a *very* nice looking site. It's nice to see a company respecting those of us who still don't browse in pictures.

    Jeremy

  32. Re:pissed off moderator? by Quixotic · · Score: 1

    try doing that meta-moderation thing then.

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  33. Whack this guy up to Plus Twelve, Fucking Genius! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Whoa!

    Thank you for brightening my day.

  34. that was not a troll, shit-eater, 'twas a flooder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it was a fucking flooder. moron. if i see the moderator in m2, fuck him, he's gettin' whacked. OFFTOPIC, okay guys? or flamebait, if you prefer. BE FUCKING ACCURATE.

  35. Re:Can Someone Tell Me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    okay prick,

    #1 i wasnt defining "sliders" i was explining them. also, they are called sliders because they slide down your throat.

    #2 i spent enough of my childhood at mcdonalds, and 2 years working there. its McDonalds. not MacDonalds. McDonalds. have you ever even been there, you fucking retard ? dont question my you cock.

    im looking at a mcdonalds cup right now, and, OH MY GAWD, IT SAYS MCDONALDS! well holy shit im right.

    cock

  36. you're a brainless goddamn dumb animal, okay? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    people troll because they like getting laughs, and becaue it's funny when people fall for the troll and take it seriously. nobody trolls because of the moderators. the whining little assholes like you who do purely disruptive shit aren't trolls, they're just morons. fuck off. i metamoderate whenever i get the chance and it's a rare thing that i see bad moderation, maybe 10% of mods at the outside. the only consistent bad-moderation practice i see is drooling imbeciles like you who pin "troll" on anything and everything that should be moderated down. i always nail those assholes as "unfair". fuck 'em if they can't learn.

    go eat your own shit somewhere else, moron.

  37. you're a troll? yeah, sure. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    post a link to one of your "trolls", moron. betcha ten bucks you're just squealing random obscenities and running away giggling. you're not a fucking troll, you're an idiot.

  38. Revenue Stream by 348 · · Score: 2
    . We're not trying to make any money on this... We're just providing a good service.

    Although I like what you guys are doing, The "Were not in it for the money comment,doesn't seem all that innocent and charitable, according to your press releases

    KC computer firm gets $30 million in venture capital
    Talley said the $30 million investment would allow the company to go into a "hypergrowth" mode and hire top industry professionals. In addition, "strategic acquisitions are very important to us, and this will allow us to pay in cash if we have to," he said.
    Linux firm hopes cash infusion will steer it to IPO
    "As things move along, we certainly see the professional services side moving up to 50 percent

    Again, I like what you guys are doing and Linsight overall, good services and you have picked out your own nitch market, but being owned by Atipa, with 30M in venture capital to repay, the revenue has got to come from somewhere. The division your in my be more of a marketing branch for brand awareness etc., but this still goes back to revenue generating efforts. You may not see the marketing impact from where you sit, but beleive me it's there. I can't see Atipas VC's giving up 30M so you and Wells could code for the good of the Linux community, your are part of the revenue stream.

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  39. Thanks for the laughs by neopenguin · · Score: 1

    This is one of the best comedy routines I've heard in a while... She's a pro straightman.

    I gues it's offtopic, but damn!

    How did you keep from laughing? Can you give me any tips on compiling and debugging with that cool-sounding RPM thing?

  40. Great Site, Great People by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having met a number of the core people involved with Linsight and its associated site, I must say that they're among the most talented people out there with a total devotion to Linux.

    They're good folks with a lot of potential.

  41. Great job guys! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks like you guys have posted about a dozen articles since this article, and have beat out linuxtoday in posting so far this morning.. if you want to do news.. you have to get it out there before anyone else gets it. i'll still visit linuxtoday.. but i'll check linsider first. (plus, i found out that compusa does linux training) :-))

  42. Re:pissed off moderator? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I thought first post was funny too.

    I say we find out who the moderators are, gouge out one of their eyes and skull fuck them.

    Thank you. That is all.