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Obtaining Guest Speakers For Users Groups?

sdweber asks: "I am the president of the LUG here at Lehigh University. Many members of the group have expressed an interest in having a guest speaker or speakers come in and talk about Linux, Open Source, or other geek-friendly topics. Looking for a good speaker, however, is proving harder than I thought. There are a few big names that come to mind quickly (ESR, RMS, and others) but beyond that I'm not sure where to look. Has anyone had a good/bad experience with guest speakers? Who are some good people to chase down? Of course, being college students, we don't have a whole lot of money to offer the speaker, but there are plenty of interested listeners eager to learn. Any suggestions?"

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  1. Career Fairs by elwing · · Score: 2

    A good place that I tried to look for speakers when I was a college LUG president was career fairs. Hunt down Sun, SGI, IBM, etc... and see if they're willing to come talk to your group. They usually are and usually free as well. Remember to mention that you have seniors that are looking for jobs.

  2. Look for abbreviations... by FortKnox · · Score: 3

    anyone that refers to themselves with 3 letter abbreviations (RMS for example) are usually good about talking about geeky topics...


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  3. Re:PSU Lug by finkployd · · Score: 2

    I can't believe someone beat me to posting this. I was all set to brag on our behalf :)

    Finkployd

  4. ESR by bobwhitethegreat · · Score: 3

    When I checked ESR asks only that you pay for his trip, not his speaking time. This may work out better than many other speakers. Alternatively, you could consult with another local professional society (ala ACM) who get money to pay for guest speakers, etc.

    1. Re:ESR by Silas · · Score: 2
      A few years ago, while a CS student at a small liberal arts college in Indiana, one day I decided it would be neat to have ESR come speak to some folks at my school.

      I wrote him an e-mail asking him to come, and he wrote me an e-mail back saying "Okay." After negotiating the costs of airfare and doing a little publicity, things were all set.

      A month or so later, there I am, with Eric Raymond sitting in my passenger seat on the way back from the airport, an unfinished "Halloween Document" in his bag and lots of good stories to tell.

      We hung out, had dinner, he slept in a guestroom at a prof's house, and the next day, there he was speaking to a group of folks interested in open source in some way or another.

      It was a surprisingly straightforward visit to organize. I attribute this in part to ESR's flexibility and adaptability, and in part to the notion that people who have something interesting to say and people who want to hear something interesting will find each other pretty well on their own.

  5. I'll speak by //violentmac · · Score: 3
    I'm taking speech in college MSU and I just gave a speech on OSS. Audience seems very bored by the subject. Would love to give it again to an audience that would care to listen.

    I'm up here in Minot, ND let me know if interested! :-)

    I'll post the outline if anyone's interested.

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    1. Re:I'll speak by //violentmac · · Score: 3

      Here's the outline, it's open source too. Email me any bug fixes or code improvement. ;-D Enjoy and thanks!

      ps my work email gabriel.black@minot.af.mil

      Gabriel Black

      Outline for Informative Speech

      Specific Purpose: To inform the audience about the Open Source Software (OSS)
      movement or Open Source Initiative (OSI)

      I. Introduction
      A. Attention getter:
      1. Car/Software analogy.
      a. Wouldn't it be nice not to have to pay for software?
      2. Brief explanation of open source software
      a. You use software everyday, but what if you could
      change it suit your needs.
      b. That's what open source software allows you to do.
      B. Motivation to listen: The OSS movement is growing and may directly
      influence you eventually.
      C. Right to inform: I'm an Information Technology Specialist in the Air
      Force etc...
      D. Preview of main points:
      1. Definitions and explanation of Open Source Software
      2. Pro's and Con's of OSS
      3. Various OSS projects and the future.
      II. Body
      A. Definitions and explanation of how software works.
      1. Software/Book analogy
      a. Software is like a book, but unlike a novel you read
      once and put on a shelf you use software everyday.
      b. Software can be edited like a book too. It can be
      improved and modified.
      c. Unlike most products the cost of copying software is
      negligible.
      d. War and Peace analogy.
      2. Explain reuse and modification of source code.
      a. Reuse of source code allows the best part of a software
      program to be duplicated into another program. For
      example a great menu or button can be copied and used
      over and over.
      3. Why you can't modify normal software.
      a. When Software is written it is in a format that is called
      source code. It is the only software format that is
      readable by humans.
      b. Regular software that you, the end-user buy comes in
      machine language format.
      c. The consequence of this is that it basically makes a
      program impossible to modify or improve if you don't
      have the source code. Because no one but a computer
      can read machine language.
      4. Define Open Source Software
      a. It is software that is published in source code format.
      b. Licensing agreements allow you to do anything but you
      can't patent it.
      c. Make multiple copies etc...
      d. Two types of freedom. Free speech vs. Free Beer
      e. Bazaar and Cathedral concept
      5. Define Regular software
      a. Restrictive licensing
      b. The software costs money.
      c. Only a machine language version of the software is
      included. There's no source code.
      B. Pro's and Con's of the OSI, Star Office and the future.
      1. Con's
      a. The major con of the open source movement is that it is
      unorganized. Explain modern software development. .
      b. Open source licenses don't allow you to patent what
      you create.
      c. Some programs are too large and complex to be created
      under open source. These include 3D modeling
      programs, CAD, and speech recognition software.
      d. Programs, which interact with hardware, like drivers,
      don't open source easily as the specs to hardware are
      usually a company secret.
      e. Companies scared by the idea of it because they are
      scared that they will be left behind or they will lose
      money if they do try it.
      f. To many people using it and not enough contributors.
      g. Some types of software that appeal to a limited amount
      of people may not be developed under OSS.
      h. Some software has widespread but ephemeral appeal.
      Like games like Rainbow Six, and Unreal Tournament.
      Since OSS is slower at creating and mainly works by
      modifying established software once an OSS project
      duplicates UT it would be passé.

      2. Pro's
      a. Harness's the mental power of thousands of individuals
      in different countries all over the world.
      b. It allows a lot of peer reviews of code so any bugs or
      optimizations can be removed or added.
      c. Profit made mostly by manuals and support.
      d. Open source software powers the Internet already,
      example are TCP/IP and http.
      e. In October of 1998 Microsoft released a white paper on
      the growing threat of the OSS movement.
      f. "The ability of the O.S.S. process to collect and harness
      the collective I.Q. of thousands of individuals across the
      Internet is simply amazing," the memo states. "More
      importantly, O.S.S. evangelization scales with the size
      of the Internet much faster than our own evangelization
      efforts appear to scale."
      g. It's free.
      C. Major OSS projects -OSS is real, here are some.
      1. On 22 Jan. 1998 Netscape having lost the browser wars released
      the source to Netscape Navigator.
      a. This is the first shot in the modern open source
      revolution.
      b. Mozilla is the name of the browser that has developed
      since 1998. It's available free online.
      c. This gives rise to the "open source" naming convention
      2. October 13, 2000 SUN Microsystems released the source code to
      Star Office.
      a. Explain SO.
      b. Explain how this could start a revolution.
      III. Conclusion
      A. Review of main points
      1. Definitions and explanation of Open Source Software
      2. Pro's and Con's of OSS
      3. Various OSS projects and the future.
      B. The future of OSS and my estimation of it.
      1. Potential is there, what happens is a guess.

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  6. Donald Becker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4

    A couple of days ago Donald Becker spoke here in
    Linkoping, Sweden. He spoke about Beowulf clusters
    and Linux networking. The talk was both extremly
    interesting and funny, and there was a great
    questions and answers session after the talk.
    A lot of credits to Donald for giving a wonderful
    talk which was appreciated by a lot of people.
    Also a lot of credits to http://www.lysator.liu.se
    and http://www.nsc.liu.se for organizing the talk.
    See http://www.scyld.com for more information
    about Beowulf clusters and Linux network drivers.

    Fredrik Henbjork
    http://o112.ryd.student.liu.se

  7. Get together with other schools by IAmATuringMachine! · · Score: 2

    Scott, I go to Muhelnberg College (right down the road) and we too are struggling to get speakers. My thought is that a few schools (like us LVAIC schools) should combine forces such that we have more power to make speakers want to come. Muhlenberg has around 20 CS majors total, so we are not very attractive to come speak at, but Muhlenberg, Lafeyette, Lehigh, Moravian, etc all got together, you would be surprised how much better response would be.

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  8. Getting speakers: Go through the P.R. department by tgeller · · Score: 5
    Funny you should ask this, because I'm on the other side of the equation: I'm a public relations flack looking for speaking engagements for executives at two client companies (Topica and one other I can't announce yet).

    For small organizations (i.e., under 25 full-time staff people), you can probably contact the proposed speaker directly. You might have to go through a secretary: Be courteous and follow their rules. The speakers will probably make arrangements themselves.

    Organizations of 25-75 people often have a dedicated Public Relations Manager to handle such things: Ask for them. They in turn might send you to a freelancer or small agency, who'll make the arrangements.

    With companies of this size and bigger, they probably won't be interested unless:

    1. You can deliver audience members who are in their target markets
    2. You can deliver large, high-profile audiences ("opinion leaders"), and/or
    3. The talk is convenient for them.
    In short, you'll have a hard time getting someone to get on a plane to appear before your 20-member User's Group. :)

    Finally, for bigger organizations (75+ full-time staff), you may have to deal with the organization's P.R. firm. Go to their Web site, look under the "About us" button, then to the "Press" section. If they don't list a press contact, look for contact names and numbers on press releases.

    Don't be discouraged if they turn you down, and feel free to pester them if they don't return your emails and phone calls within a week. Good luck!

    --Tom Geller
    President, Bandwidth P.R.

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  9. perhaps you need to realign your perception by segmond · · Score: 4

    I am sorry, but why do you need a guest speaker? To inspire you? When was the last time you got inspired by a speaker? What was the result of such inspiration? As surprising as it may, I don't believe your group needs a guest speaker. I believe that whatever you are seeking can come from inside, I challenge you to take control, to do something for the group that they will not have expected, or to do something that the group has never done. You really don't need Linus or ESR or RMS to come down and talk to you. What you need is the "next linus" to spring up to life, Linus was not a next anyone, he took action that he felt necessary, you ought to do that. Good luck. Cheers

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  10. Lots of Linux companies around... by GoNINzo · · Score: 2
    Realize there are a lot of Linux companies out there who are looking for Linux people. And of course, it's not really something you can formally learn (yet). Hence, they are turning to places like LUG's and other user groups to find new people. It's just a matter of locating companies that do it.

    I know that my company hires people to do linux, as we are onsite support for RedHat. Hence, we give tech talks concerning all sorts of different stuff. Recently, Curtis Preston gave a talk in Boston concerning Backup Recovery practices. I know with all the linux people within the company, we could dig someone out to talk about the place of open source systems in the corporate environment.

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  11. Re:One thing's for sure: by a2800276 · · Score: 2
    Yes, that's right. Also don't get Bill Gates, he's pretty busy and pretty expensive and some of the LUG geeks might not like him.

    Gorbachow is also VERY expensive I hear. He'll probably have an accent and won't be able to say alot about computers, because he's from Russia and they don't have computers there.

    A lot of the other people mentioned aren't busy and would be pretty cheap. I can't imagine RMS or ESR or whoever charges AT ALL because speach wants to be free just like software.

    Seriously though: If I were you, I'd maybe consider asking the members of your LUG what they would be interested in hearing about. Maybe you can start off by then members themselves speaking about their fields of interest/expertise.

  12. It's a very simple concept by OlympicSponsor · · Score: 5

    To get speakers, you need members. Speakers don't generally want to come to talk to the 5 guys who live in your dorm and run Linux.

    And how do you get members? Basic common courtesy. Pardon me while I go on a rant for a moment: I've only lived in my area for a year so I don't know a lot of people. Last night, I went to a LUG meeting that was a complete disaster (from my point of view). I show up and sit down at the table (dinner first, then speaker). No one asks me my name, no one tells me their name, no one has name tags, no one explains what's going on (even as simple as "once everyone gets here we'll do introductions, etc"). We sit around and try to hear one another over the noise for 30 minutes and then order dinner. Again, no explanation of how we are going to be paying, etc. We eat. At 7:00 we go upstairs and participate in much unexplained activity (handing out tickets for what turned out to be a raffle later, making in-jokes, etc). Speak for a while and then out.

    If all I wanted a LUG for was technical information, I'd browse a website on the same topic and save myself the drive and price of dinner. I want a LUG to be a social group--talk about Linux issues, make local connections, etc. I know I wasn't the only new person there because I saw one or two one-off intros going on--but no concerted effort to make people welcome. I felt like I was attending a stranger's wedding.

    I'm not a total socio-phobe myself--I was looking alert and interested in conversations, making eye-contact and even contributing comments. But only two people bothered to even ask my name and I'm pretty sure one of them was a new guy. Sure, I could ask names first--but shouldn't it be the function of the LUG to make visitors welcome and not the other way around?

    (As a sidenote, why is there always one of those smart-alecky geeks with the nervous sniff and inability to shut up when he is wrong in any group of computerphiles? Somebody smack those idiots.)
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    1. Re:It's a very simple concept by Staciebeth · · Score: 2

      oh gods yes!

      The first time I went to my local users group meeting there was a wonderful presentation on shell scripting. So far so good. That was followed by this AWFUL social gathering where no one made any attempt to socialize with anybody new. (Except for this fat man in a purple shirt who kept hitting on me. Ugh.) I didn't go back for months, and now I only go to the meeting and I skip the social thing afterward.

      I mean, sure geek, sure poorly socialized, but the first meeting was as close to hazing as I ever want to see.

    2. Re:It's a very simple concept by LordNimon · · Score: 2

      This must be something unique to Linux user group meetings. At OS/2 user group meetings, newcomers are definitely noticed and welcomed. Of course, as much as I hate to admit it, the reason is mostly because all OS/2 users know there aren't enough of us. But I've heard from people who attend OS/2 and Linux conferences that the OS/2 ones are generally friendlier.
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  13. Alan Cox by prankster · · Score: 2

    4 weeks ago Alan Cox spend a weekend i Denmark and Sweden giving talks in Stockholm and Lund to the local LUG
    he speeks very well!

    1. Re:Alan Cox by SurfsUp · · Score: 2
      4 weeks ago Alan Cox spend a weekend i Denmark and Sweden giving talks in Stockholm and Lund to the local LUG he speeks very well!

      Absolutely. He's brilliant. In fact, it seems like all the top people in Linux are brilliant speakers. Which came first, the brilliant speaking or the high position in the meritocracy?
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  14. linuxresources.com speaker's bureau by dmorin · · Score: 5

    Although the URL now redirects to linuxjournal, www.linuxresources.com used to maintain a list of people who could/would speak on Linux subjects. I notice in the table of contents that it's still there under the new ownership.

  15. Katz! by Tommi+Morre · · Score: 4
    Why not try everybody's favorite Slashdot columnest, John Katz? Can't hurt to ask -- email him at jonkatz@slashdot.org.

  16. RMS Is Pretty Accomodating by Scooter[AMMO] · · Score: 2

    Believe it or not, given the recent Linux/GNU explosion over the last few years, RMS and his new found fame still find time to visit some lower key places.

    I go the University of Waterloo in Ontario, and it is the Computer Science nerve centre (yes, that's "re" up here in Igloo-land) of Canada, and one of the major schools in North America. But RMS didn't come here, he went to the small affiliated College across the creek to speak, literally.

    There couldn't have been more than 150 people in the medium-sized room that he spoke in, and I don't imagine the College had a lot of offer him.

    That being said, I'm not sure how the school got in touch with him, but it shows that you don't need to pack several thousand people in a metropolitan convention center to get some big names to speak to you.

    A lot of these guys will jump at the opportunity to make their message heard in person. It might have something to do with altruistic motives, as opposed to corporate ones.

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  17. What we did by bluGill · · Score: 2

    Back in the early '90s my local Atari (8 bit) users group got a guest speaker.

    We had to decide who we wanted to speak, raise money to pay his hotel and transportation, and we even went and rented a more expensive hotel banquet room. Some memembers took the guy out for meals.

    It went off rather well, I remember walking into the hotel, and seeing on their comptuer monitor "Space: talk by jon doe" (I can't remember the guy's name, but Space is/was the St. Paul Atari Users Group) The guy spoke for half an hour (very few people should be allowed to speak for longer!) with questions following.

    One other point, keep your speaker busy, but not too busy. For instance if I was to bring Alan Cox in to my hometown I'd have to consider the 8 hour time difference. Somehow we would have to give him time adjust. Then various activities. Some time should be spent with users (In Alan's case your probably ahve a kernel hacker with an interesting problem!). Also plan time for other things. Someone should take him to the local zoo, or a similear activity so he doesn't get burned out. Don't forget time to exercise and time alone!

    Do you want to invite family? Linus is much more likely to want to speak in Norway if you fly his wife and kid out too, and give them plenty of time to travel to Finland.

    Overall guest speakers are a lot of fun, and well worth doing. however they are expensive (More so if you have to pay the speaker and not just the travel expenses) and a lot of work. Don't try to do more then one or two a year, and don't let those who orginize it get bruned out.

  18. RMS @ Alaska by fredbox · · Score: 2

    I mailed the FSF about having a guest speaker for our student ACM chapter at the university. Much to my suprise RMS volunteered for the duty, as he was going to be speaking in Vancouver, BC around that time (which being only 2000 miles away is practically next door). If he's not in your area or arranging a tour he may request that someone else speak. His only requirements are that his travel cost be covered and he is taken out to a good dinner during his stay. (Beer and pizza is not an option, since he disdains both). The trip up here he actually stayed in my house, and was a gracious enough guest not to flay me for my non-free faux pas (such as having a prominent O'Reilly shelf in the living room). But, do expect to be challenged on any logical inconsitencies in any statement you may make, no matter how trifling they may seem to you. And be prepared for the anagram puns and spontaneous Bulgarian dancing in the living room. The actual speech ran somewhat long, about his AI lab days and the evolution to the GNU project, and the four principles of freedom. But it was informative if you could pay attention so long as that. There are transcripts of his speeches out there which give the general notion of what he will talk about. In general, a little research to find out who's in your area will reveal some notables in the free software community who might likely speak (excepting Alaska where you better be able to cough up the $800 airfare since the "local area" means Vancouver or Seattle).

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  19. ESR! by dizee · · Score: 2

    I remember reading from ESR's page that he'll speak for free just about anywhere as long as someone puts him up somewhere (preferably somewhere that doesn't suck, even a guest bedroom would be perfect). Just think, you could have ESR sleeping in your house! ;)

    And he doesn't like to fly coach on long flights, but you shouldn't have that problem as he lives in Pennsylvania, fairly close to the Lehigh Valley area if I am not mistaken.

    But if you're going to have anyone speak, you gotta get ESR.

    And maybe you can invite RMS, but only to kill him when he gets there. =)

    Mike

    "I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer."

    1. Re:ESR! by woggo · · Score: 2

      ESR lives (IIRC) in Malvern or West Chester, PA, which are less than an hour's drive from Lehigh (except you get to deal with PA roads...ugh). You could have someone pick him up. I met him in person once at a party in Malvern, where he mentioned that he lived "down the street" from the hosts (friends of mine).

  20. inspiration not such a bad thing by barooz · · Score: 2

    At a company I used to work for, a senior developer had just quit, and was giving "brain dump" talks to any who would listen. I honestly didn't attend these sessions intending to be inspired. But I was inspired. Not by any dynamic speaking quality, but by his sheer depth of knowledge of the stuff he had coded and his insights on programming in general. This speaker just had great subject matter, was enthused and knew what he was talking about. I would bet that there are a lot of people around like this, you've just got to find them. And I think listening to people like this is interesting and could be inspirational. Sure the group should have seperate activities, but a healthy balance of activities and speakers would be preferable in my opinion.

  21. As a Potential Speaker... :) by Spud+Zeppelin · · Score: 2

    Hehe you get involved in one little book project and suddenly find yourself interesting.

    Seriously, though, I love to make myself available to user groups when travelling, like I did when I came down here to Dallas in May for a friend's wedding (the fact that I found a job here and wound up moving back is another story). I suspect most authors, open-source-project-leaders, et al have similar attitudes: catch me when I happen to be in Pennsylvania (or wherever), and I'd love to give a presentation.

    OF course, that makes it incumbent upon us (as potential speakers) to publicize our travel plans, a la Randal Schwartz -- something I'm guilty of neglecting myself, and I should probably get around to updating. Taking it a step further though, that makes for a lot of work on the part of the program chair of a user group: you still have to wade through all of the homepages of each potential speaker until you find one who will happen to be in the neighborhood. Perhaps someone would like to undertake building a "Random Sightings" website where people who wouldn't mind giving talks while travelling could enter their travel info into a database (and prog chairs could subsequently browse the same)?

    MOO;IANAL.

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  22. Who needs the "next" anyone? by Alan+Shutko · · Score: 2

    Inspiration isn't the only reason to have a guest speaker. Small groups have the problem that they tend to become homogenous and do things the same way. A guest speaker brings other perspectives, other experiences, new ways of doing things.

  23. Suggestions by BacOs · · Score: 2

    1. Contact Linux vendors (Redhat, Caldera, etc.). When I lived in Nashville, TN, we had representatives from Redhat at one of our Nashvile Linux Users' Group meetings and we had Caldera representatives at one of our Central Indiana Linux Users' Group meetings here in Indianapolis

    2. Contact local Linux companies. Fortunately for us in Indianapolis, Ian Murdock (founder of Debian), works here in Indianapolis (he's President of Progeny Linux Systems)

    3. Contact Linux developers within a few hours travelling distance. NLUG collected money to bring a window manager developer to Nashville from Alabama.

    4. University community - Scores of students at my university were Linux users and probably would love to give presentations on their areas of expertise. Perhaps your campus has a similar concentration of Linux users.

  24. Re:Money isn't a big deal - RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    Having hosted RMS, he expects that his lodging, meals, and transportation will be paid expenses, in addition to a speaker's fee (that's how he earns his living, for the most part).

    However, he adjusts his fee to the economic means of his host and is willing (and appears to prefer) to have someone put him up for a night rather than incur the expense of a hotel room (though he is alergic to cats).

    In short, if he's in your city anyway, and you're willing to put him up, it would probably not be a great expense to have him speak. I would reccomend though, that you permit him to collect donations for the FSF, or sell FSF wares if you can't come up with a reasonable (say $500) speaker's fee.

    He is not as unreasonable as his reputation makes him out to be, is a great speaker, and can be contacted by email (Check the GNU website for an email address).

  25. Why not? by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 2
    I was involved the the Boston Computer Society and the DPMA.

    For the tech group, we invited people from Microsoft, but warned them that they will be shreded if they only brought marketing types.

    We also provided Microsoft with a pool of beta people (when beta really meant beta). We had the founders NuMega, but had a little debugging tutorial first. We had the president of Knowledge Dynamics (Install Pro) give a presentation on compression. This included a presentation on his new technique which was to be included in the next version of the product.

    You can expect some marketing, but you must let them know what is expected. They will also want to know the demographics of the group.

  26. Use your politicians! by TOTKChief · · Score: 3

    As Executive Vice-President of the University of Alabama in Huntsville's Student Government Association (*waves to all the UAH /.ers*), I'd give you this to-do list:

    1. See if the Lehigh SGA pays for speakers' fees and travel. Many do. If yours doesn't, give me an email address for the appropriate jacka$$ and I'll send them a sweet letter about how defraying the cost of (your speaker here) coming to speak will improve your university, blah blah blah.
    2. Bother the appropriate departments. Faculty are there to help. Drop by the EE department and tell Dr. Stephen Kowell howdy, and tell him how much UAH misses him. He'll freak.
    3. See if the local honors college or whatever will be willing to fund some stuff. They're cool about things like that--especially if there are enough open source revolutionaries that are in the HC. (UAH: check).
    4. Lastly, after you have a package together, start talking with speakers. If you can do some up-front planning for them--and if you know where they live, try to work out a basic itinerary (not only for budgetary planning, but to show them that, by God, you want them to come), and you'll probably lay a big enough guilt trip that they'll come running.

    Remember, just ask a poor, tired SGA EVP if ya need some help.


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  27. Women at LUGs by OlympicSponsor · · Score: 2

    I was surprised to find three women at last night's meeting but unsurprised to find that one was the non-technical friend of one of the others. Each of those two was 10 times more social than any other person (including the remaining woman). Unfortunately they were sitting too far during both dinner and presentation for me to talk to them much (and no, I wasn't going to hit on them).
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  28. Some pieces of advice by Drashcan · · Score: 2
    from my experience:
    • first make up a plan of topics you wish to cover and name all possible candidates (in this stage Bill Gates is still on board)
    • next: after a cup of tea return to your plan and potential speaker list and scrap the unrealistic speakers (there you go, Bill) and topics (mmm, too bad, "How to build your own artificial life for stock exchange prediction" is a bit too difficult for the uninitiated mortals)
    • try to rearrange the list strategically: there's a higher probability I can catch this speaker if this theme will be on the menu or if his buddy (from another corp or university) shall be there etc.
    • of course, sponsoring and the promiss that lots of talented just graduated job-seeking geeks will form the public works to force big CxO (x can be E, T, F etc.) on board which on its turn sometimes helps to catch some high class venture capital seeking IT gurus
    • the most difficult part in my opinion: persuading the first big fishes to come. Usually you do not have yet a full program to show off nor other big bobos. But as I said just above: the attendance of job-seeking geeks makes miracles happen nowadays (as long as the IT-specialist shortage continues).
    --
    The nice thing about Windows is: it does not just crash; it displays a nice little dialog box and let's you press 'OK'
  29. Funny you mention this by MichaelKVance · · Score: 3

    I'm from Bethlehem, right near Lehigh, and while I won't pretend I'm anyone like ESR or RMS, I was asked by the Lehigh LUG to come speak last year. It would have been great because I could have stayed with my family and visited while on some company business.

    Unfortunately, the fellow from the LUG who emailed me never replied to my followup. /me shrugs. I suggest emailing your prospective speakers as a useful way of getting them interested/to show up :)

    m.
    Loki Software, Inc.

    --
    "Sebastian you're in a mess. They called you King of all the Hipsters, is it true or are you still the Queen?" -- B
  30. DO NOT BOOK ESR (was "Re:ESR") by pergamon · · Score: 5

    I was involved with a local ACM chapter and LUG who co-sponsored an event (not in an official capacity, so I do not represent the views of either). We had several speakers, but ESR was the "draw". We had a tiny budget going into it, but did just have enough to fly ESR in and out. All the arrangements with ESR were finalized many months in advance.

    As is the tradition, we decided to try to sell T-Shirts to help pay for things. I paid for these out of my own pocket. More on this later.

    I happened to be the person with a car who had the lightest schedule that day (I'd only have to miss one class to pick him up), so as soon as my class was out I picked up the person who had arranged ESR's visit and we drove the 80 miles to the airport as quickly as possible.

    When we got to the airport, we searched the airport from top to bottom. No ESR. We talked to a series of airline employees trying to find out if they had any idea what happened to him. About an hour after we got to the airport we finally got someone to tell us that he never got on the plane. After more inquiry to see if he had for some reason switched flights (he didn't) and after checking voice mail to see if he had let us know he wouldn't be there (he didn't) we drove home.

    Then I spent about an hour trying to get him on the phone. Here's a little tidbit: most people who answer phones at VALinux don't even know who he is, and those who do don't have ANY idea how to get in touch with him.

    I finally gave up and went to class. Later (much later) that afternoon, we finally got an email from him. His explanation was that he "forgot", but that if we would buy another ticket for him he still MIGHT be able to make it. This was about 16 hours before the symposium was scheduled to start. Even if we could have gotten tickets at that point, we wouldn't be able to afford them.

    Being the honest people we are, we notified everyone that ESR would in fact not be attending. As a result, there are still 90 T-Shirts left over (anyone want to buy one?).

    [Luckily, another person involved in the event (thanks Andy!) got a hold of someone to fill in (who did a great job), which combined with the rest of the talks we had made a great conference.]

    Only pay for his trip, eh? Let's see:
    Plane tickets: $350
    T-Shirts: $400 - $100 for the t-shirts we actually sold
    Other: ~$150
    PLUS at least two people wasting 10 hours combined just on ESR arrangements.

    What did we get? Not a damn thing. I'm still out $400.

    Thanks a lot ESR.

    1. Re:DO NOT BOOK ESR (was "Re:ESR") by g_mcbay · · Score: 2
      I know ESR reads Slashdot ... Helps keep up the page views for VALinux!

      What's your response to this ESR?

  31. Sometimes, all ya gotta do is ask by merlyn · · Score: 2

    I've made it very clear that my Just another convicted Perl hacker talk is available to anyone who can get a group together expecting 20-ish or more, with a suggested donation of any increased travel cost I incur. And since I'm always bouncing around the country anyway, the additional costs are often near nothing.

  32. It helps to have a diverse member base. by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

    The Lexington Perl Mongers had a nice advantage, as we worked for different companies. Once in a while, Lexmark would bring out Nat Torkington (to talk? teach? not sure what the deal was), and we'd move our monthly meetings to concide with when he'd be in town.

    We'd still have our planned speaker for meeting [talking about some random module / feature], but Nat also gave us a small talk about as to what was going on with Perl and showed us pictures of his kid, and all it cost us was keeping him in beer for the night.

    If you increase your members, and they're varied [work for different companies, go to different schools, etc], you have a better chance of knowing when someone's going to be in the area anyway, and snagging them to come give a talk.

    --
    Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
  33. What I generally look for before I speak by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4
    In general I don't charge for speaking, but I expect all of my transportation, lodging, and food expenses to be paid. I don't want to front the money, I want tickets and hotel on someone else's credit card, please.

    I have a baby at home and in general try to only take a trip once a month. I have recently had to turn down a user group, well in advance of the event, simply because my schedule got too tight.

    I look with especial kindness upon speaking engagements that are willing to pay for my wife and child to come with me, and will in general go out of my way to give them more than one talk, etc. If we can do a bit of sightseeing around the thing, it becomes something fun rather than another out-and-back trip with me missing the travel days away from my family.

    I always show up. Always. That's pretty basic responsibility, but some people get that wrong and make us look bad.

    Thanks

    Bruce

    1. Re:What I generally look for before I speak by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 3
      Oops. I meant to say "me missing my family during the travel days away from them". Open mouth, remove foot.

      Thanks

      Bruce

  34. Guest Speakers Come With _IDEAS_ by Christopher+B.+Brown · · Score: 2
    A small LUG probably shouldn't try to book "celebrities" like Linus or others that are referred to as TLAs rather than by their names.

    You won't accomplish "success" merely by breathing the air that ESR has belched, and the cost of arranging for a "celebrity" will far outweigh the value in most cases.

    On the other hand, it is a good idea to pull in people with new and interesting ideas.

    There are all sorts of interesting sorts of projects out there that it would be nice to discuss with one of those involved.

    • People use XFree86; it would be interesting to hear about various aspects of it, whether about the technologies of the components, or about the way the project is organized vis-a-vis licensing, source code control, and "politics."

      It doesn't take Dirk Hoendel to discuss that; almost anybody on the team could have useful insights. Other members of the team might actually be on the same continent.

    • My LUG's last guest speaker was the organizer of LiViD; he spoke on both the technologies involved, as well as the legal wranglings surrounding DeCSS. Most excellent.
    If the goal is to feel important because we got Linus to come out, that represents a pretty crummy reason.

    If the goal is to learn something, then it most certainly is valuable to get speakers from remote places so that the local group doesn't get overly parochial or provincial.

    A good comparison here is with academic institutions where they try to pull in guests for seminars and lectures. This helps "diversify the gene pool of ideas," where the alternatives can tend towards a sort of "academic inbreeding."

    (Grumble... I need to put together a topic or three myself; the last time I presented anything locally was my Internet Filtering talk of 1997; I should probably put a couple of generic talks together that could allow me to candidate for this sort of thing... Have laptop, will travel...)

    --
    If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
  35. Expected answer by gallir · · Score: 2
    I am terribly sorry I won't be able to speak in your conference. (Alan Cox)

    Not a chance in hell. (Linus)

    Not a problem at all. It's a LUG, so I will speak for free. Be sure of taking car of everything, I don't bring money, I don't use credit cards. Buy a business class ticket, the travel is long, you know, and I need to plug my RedHat/VA Linux notebook, I don't have time to sleep, evangelism is so hard. (Eric Raymond)

    I hope not to find any commercial ads in the conference room. Don't invite ESR to speak in the same day. KDE sucks. Qt is evil. I know nothing about linux, I can talk about GNU/Linux. (Richard Stallman)

    Do I have to talk about 3Com drivers? (Donald Becker)

    Mamma mia, I won't be able, I am still implementing triple elevator algorithm with a single pointer buffer cache and page colouring. The I will spend my whole holidays correcting the bigs in my code and then a couple of week until I finish uploading them with my stupid 56Kmodem. Porca miseria, la madonna. (Andrea Arcangeli)

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  36. The antidote by Eck · · Score: 5
    There's a group in Michigan (Ann Arbor), which I miss very much now that I've moved away, with a meeting format that goes a LONG way to overcoming most of the problems you've cited. They're a smallish group, but still get some great presenters. The format is:

    • "Welcome and Abuse of New Members"
      • (This is an opportunity for the moderator to welcome new members; the "abuse" has been a joking misnomer all the years I've gone...)
    • Administrivia (getting announcements and logistics out of the way)
    • The Question Session
      • Note: Important point! No answers are allowed yet. The questions are written up on a whiteboard or flipchart.
    • Presentation
      • Generally an invited speaker.
      • Generally followed by a break for pop & cookies.
    • Answer Session
      • Now the questions get answered. This has two really good effects: First, everyone has gotten to ponder the questions, if subconsciously, all during the presentation. Second, people interested in the questions have extra incentive to stick around for the presentation, even if it doesn't closely match their interests. The latter point goes a long way in giving the group a good reputation with presenters.
    • "Rumors and Innuendo" and the gradual disintigration of the meeting...
    • Lastly, a lot of the group go to a post-meeting chat at a local bar.

    Now I've just gotta get a similar group started in the town where I've moved...

  37. Network, network, network by Goonie · · Score: 2
    Every time you deal with somebody in an IT-related area, drop the fact that you're looking for guest speakers at a LUG. They might not be suitable (they might be on another continent), but they might know somebody that is suitable and available. Repeat until suitable speakers are found.

    If any of the Melbourne, Australia LUGs want somebody to speak on GnuCash, I'm available :)

    --

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
    --Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
  38. Just get local folks with knowlege by HisDudeness · · Score: 2

    I'm the speaker coordinator for CLUE in Denver.
    We get locals to speak. Generaly, we post requests
    for speakers to the local email lists and at times
    we solicit for speaker. There's little reason to
    fly someone out when there are probobly interesting and informative resources right in your community.

    In our LUG, anyone can do a talk and we divide our meetings up into two presentations: A KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) talk, which is a simple 30 minute introduction to some basic Linux area, and a main presentation which is usualy somewhere between 1 and 2 hours.

    The KISS presentation is generaly done by and for newbies in order to get folks into presenting and to encourage participation. The idea is to introduce something and discuss a bit. Additional resources are given to help people to persue it on their own.

    The main is usualy (but not necessarily) by an expert or guru and is a more detailed discussion.

    Hope this helps.

    Check out
    http://clue.denver.co.us

    --
    Hang Loos and be cool
  39. Sounds like a MasterCard ad... by Speare · · Score: 2

    Plane tickets for ESR to forget to use: $350

    Unsold t-shirts made to hype the event: $300

    Gas and chow to fetch nobody at the airport: $150

    Damage to your group's reputation: priceless.

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  40. Guest speakers by sinnergy · · Score: 2

    Well, let me give you a quick run down of what happens at our CWRUlug (Case Western Reserve University) LUG meetings.

    For the past two years we have scheduled weekly meetings. During these weekly meetings we have members of the group talk about some aspect of Linux, Unix, Open Source, etc. One week we'll have a talk about jargon, the next a talk about XFS and of course have the occassional Installfest. We use these talks in order to not only keep ourselves interested, but to bring new Linux users and Freshmen "up to speed" with what's going on in the Linux world.

    Lately, we've seemed to attract someone "big" speakers... granted they aren't of the calibre of ESR and RMS, but it's still exciting for us. What we've been doing is in fact inviting alumni of the University working in Industry to demonstrate some of their Open Source projets, or to discuss coding techniques, etc. A lot of good sources are companies that folks have worked a co-op or summer internship for. Also, we ask faculty to present something relevant to the group. Finally, we'll ask local business leaders and companies if they'd be interested in speaking.

    Want a really "big" speaker? How about combining efforts with another local LUG to perhaps entice a big name individual to come to town? Publicize the hell out of it and, if you're successful, it'll be a heck of a lot easier to get another speaker to show up.

    So I guess my advice is this: Look local. You'll find a lot of capable individuals with a lot to say. It will help them because then they'll know who to recruit and it will help you because you'll know something you didn't before and might have the chance to work for a great company that embraces Open Source.

  41. Reminds me of a Story . . . by llywrch · · Score: 2

    > (As a sidenote, why is there always one of those smart-alecky geeks with the nervous sniff and inability to shut up when he is
    > wrong in any group of computerphiles? Somebody smack those idiots.)

    Something like 15 years ago, I had the chance to meet Douglas Adams at a book-signing here in Portland. (Lookingglass Bookstore -- cool establishment, worth delaying the eventual trip to Powell's to visit.)

    When I arrived with the 3 volumes of his Hitchhiker's trilogy for him to autograph (the fourth had yet to be published), I noticed that there was a chorus of 3 ``smart-alecky geeks" standing to one side, in awe of him. (I had the impression that if given the sign, they would have fallen to their knees & recited parts of the book to him in prayerful supplication.) Needless to say, they were there only because he could not summon himself to demand they be chased away.

    (For the curious, Adams is quite taller in Real Life than he appears in his photographs. He wore a leather jacket, & looked rather athletic to me at the time.)

    When it came my turn for him to autograph the books, I got to ask him two questions:

    Question one: ``So what did you write for Monty Python?"

    (The liner notes for one of the books I owned had claimed he had worked for Python et Co.)

    His face brightened, & he explained that he had worked for Python for only ``a lunchtime" at the bequest of Terry Gilliam, who apparently was a friend of his. It was just something his publicist had elaborated on, much as publicists elaborate about Bill Gate's programming skills.

    Encouraged, I asked my second question: ``So will you write another book in the series?"

    At this point, he lost his smile, & his interest in me. I forget exactly what he said, but it was along the lines of ``maybe".

    ``And you'll explain the story of the creature Arthur Dent keeps killing in each reincarnation?" I added, desperate to reclaim his approval.

    ``Yes, yes," he murmurred, already attending to the next person in line. As far as he was concerned, I was just another one of the chorus of ``smart-alecky geeks" he didn't have the feck to have chased away.

    Since then, I have seen how authors throw up an amazingly artificial & off-putting persona around themselves when they meet their readers. I'm sure that Adams was doing roughly the same thing to me all of those years ago. But if I had to put a moral to my little (& doubtlessly off-topic) story, it would be this: you will always be a ``smart-alecky geeks with the nervous sniff and inability to shut up when he is wrong" to someone. So when you are presented with such a creature, deal nicely with this person, for he/she is simply trying to gain your approval in the only way he/she knows how.

    And if you figure out how to do this successfully, please let me know how to do it.

    Geoff

    --
    I think I see a trend here. Maybe for them it really would be easier to muzzle the entire internet than to produce p
  42. I dont think so. by Pacorro · · Score: 2

    We booked ESR to several talks here at ITESM Monterrey, in Mexico in a 3 day span. He never missed one and we had some really big audiences, nearly 800 people attended his live talk and 1500 people saw a interview with him through the remote learning system (satellite tv broadcast) of the university. As you can see, this was a really big risk because of the large audiences, the high priced international flights, the fact that handguns of any kind are forbidden in my country (no, there are no licences to carry a gun either), and his big appetite for spicy mexican food.

    He of course had a talk and hang out with the local LUG. Even released a new Fetchmail version right here from my home network. He never, at any moment, forgot any part of his schedule.

    Anyway, if you have any experience making these kind of events you should know already that this things happen quite often, and most important, you should call your speaker two or one day before the day of the event.

    The people who are common speakers at events like this have the tendency to be very busy people, you _should_ know that, and if this thing happened to you, in part is your fault, not ESR, because if you had established a good relation with your speaker, this thing would never happened.

    I dont believe you are making a proper judgement on ESR, and, more important, Who the hell are you to judge Eric ? Eric as far as I got to know him, was a all-around nice guy, and that's the impression he left to most of the local LUG members.

    Francisco Romo Alfaro
    President, ITESM MTY Linux User's Group

    1. Re:I dont think so. by Roblimo · · Score: 2

      Another thing to note is that ESR does not work for VA Linux. He is on the Board of Directors, which means he goes to a couple of meetings a year but otherwise has no involvement with the company.

      Come to think of it, the people who answer the phone at VA probably couldn't find me or Rob Malda very easily, either. We don't have VA phone extensions or any of that.

      Use email. Usually works better than phones anyway in this circle. :)

      - Robin

  43. Ralph Engelschall (was Re:Alan Cox) by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 2
    4 weeks ago Alan Cox spend a weekend i Denmark and Sweden giving talks in Stockholm and Lund to the local LUG he speeks very well!

    Absolutely. He's brilliant. In fact, it seems like all the top people in Linux are brilliant speakers. Which came first, the brilliant speaking or the high position in the meritocracy?

    This week at ApacheCon Europe I listened to Ralph Engelschall (mod_ssl, mod_rewrite, etc) speak. He was speaking in English, which (seeing he's Swiss) must be his third or fourth language. He was talking about SSL and security, which is a deep technical topic. He was lively, witty, inspiring, fun. He obviously enjoyed himself. He obviously knew his topic inside out. And he was able to communicate both his enjoyment and his knowledge.

    I think what it comes down to is the meritocracy. Ralph Engelschall, like Alan Cox, got to his position in the meritocracy because he produces exceedingly could code ('damned cool voodoo'). You need to be pretty brilliant to produce code at that level, and many (though not all) pretty brilliant people are good speakers.

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    I'm old enough to remember when discussions on Slashdot were well informed.
  44. Doesn't always cost much by Syberghost · · Score: 2

    If you live in a metropolitan area, chances are good that Open Source or Free Software "luminaries" will be in your area from time to time.

    Having a good web page that is listed on GLUE is a good first step; it lets them find you.

    If a conference of any sort is going to be in your area, check the guest list, and email any that appear interesting.

    Don't be afraid to ask your members if they know anyone; the Orlando LUG got Ian Kluft to come speak that way, and unfortunately we had to turn down Chris DiBona but he contacted us because of a VA staffer in the LUG.

    Don't be afraid to email anyone; the worst they can do is delete it unread, and you haven't wasted much time in that case.

    That being said, don't be a cheap bastard, either; if your LUG can afford to pay for speakers, do so. Otherwise they might have to start charging for software to make a buck.

    Oh; and watch for businesses in your area that may be in the Linux arena, they aften have contacts you don't, and will probably have interesting speakers on staff.

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