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Posted by timothy on from the looking-familiar dept.

metalhed77 writes: "A new version of the Nautilus file manager (1.0.4) has made its way out to the gnome ftps. here's the article on linuxtoday. It includes various improvements which are described on linux today, these primarily consisted of bug fixes and speed ups." Good to see that the effort that went into making Nautilus friendly wasn't wasted. But if you want to browse more than your hard drive, HeUnique points out another interesting project which is not distributed with the official KDE package. It's called: KDENOX ("KDE No X" -- you can use it with X or with framebuffer and QT Embedded: here's a screenshot). The gain? You get Konqueror without KDE, with SSL, cookies, proxy, bookmarks, fonts, and without KDE itself. The executable is small (4MB), doesn't take much RAM, and it works very nicely on low end machines ... (grab it from KDE CVS). Update: 07/08 01:17 AM by T : Here's a screenshot elsewhere; first person to mirror gets a lollipop.

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  1. Good thing they mentioned konq by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5

    Hey look more news about gnome, we better spend most of the writeup talking about kde and konq

  2. Re:It's not KDE, it's GNOME! by HeUnique · · Score: 3

    Hi,

    I made the screenshot, and yes, a bit of Irony won't hurt anyone ;)

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  3. Re:konqueror does rule by Micah · · Score: 3

    Netscape is unstable, I think everyone will agree, it's difficult to run it for more than a half hour or so without a segfault or other error.

    Sorry, that's complete BS. Even if you're talking about NS 4.77. Ever since 4.6 or so, I've had pretty good luck with NS's stability. The only times it ever hung were when I was getting to Java apps, with maybe a couple exceptions.

    Now, some people might have had worse luck than I, but you state that "everyone would agree". No, that's just not the case.

    But Mozilla is much better, and I've pretty much quit using NS4.7. Do try 0.9.2 -- it rocks.

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  4. 4Mb = Small? by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 3

    Call me old fashioned, but I don't consider a 4 megabyte executable to be small... In fact, I don't have a single executable on this system that's 4Mb.

  5. Nautilus is looking very tasty. by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 3

    I've spent the weekend upgrading my PC to the latest and greatest stuff (Xfree, kernel, nvidia drivers) and thought I'd give Nautilus a go, having not tried it since it's initial release.

    In short, I'm impressed. It seems thoroughly usable and I think it'll have a permanent place on my desktop now. Now to have a go at compiling it with Mozilla support....

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  6. Lolly lolly lolly get yer screenshot here by 1010011010 · · Score: 5

    http://www.flyingbuttmonkeys.com/mirrors/galeon.pn g

    and

    http://www.flyingbuttmonkeys.com/mirrors/galeon.jp g


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  7. all playing for the same side by Karma+Sucks · · Score: 3

    Just what do you have against Konqueror and Nautilus and Mozilla mentionned in the same article? It's all free software and it all works on Linux. The desktop wars are dead.

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  8. What I want in a browser. by Faux_Pseudo · · Score: 5
    Konq without X is cool but how about Netscape without X? You may ask yourself why. In order to access my bank online I have to use Netscape or IE. I am command line only at home and would love to have a framebufferd browser that is usable for this so I don't have to wait till I get to work and use one of their browsers. zen is a browser that will compile for gtk, qt or work from the framebuffer but its totaly useless for anything other than viewing a static page.

    I want to see more development on command line only browsers to take advantage of older hardware or for people like myself who are GUI-impaired. One of the nice bennies of more development would be one could do $ getbankballence.sh | netscape --prompt4password. Now wouldn't that be cool in cron.

    Some of the command line browsers out there, sorted by usefulness:

    links

    w3m

    w3/emacs

    lynx

    zen

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    1. Re:What I want in a browser. by Spy+Hunter · · Score: 3
      In order to access my bank online I have to use Netscape or IE

      There's no reason for that to remain true. Just drop bugs.kde.org a line and they'll get right on it. They've got a great bug reporting system over there, and all improvements that get committed to the big KDE Konqueror are automatically available in KDENOX (Konqueror/Embedded is its real name, actually).

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  9. Re:konqueror does rule by NNKK · · Score: 4

    Personaly my complaint with linux browsers has always been, belive it or not, stability, not features.
    This will of course improve with time, but as far as I can tell, IE5.5 is more stable than most or all web browsers avalible for linux
    Netscape is unstable, I think everyone will agree, it's difficult to run it for more than a half hour or so without a segfault or other error.
    Mozilla hasn't achived 1.0 yet, and Konq, though officialy 2.1, simply hasn't matured yet as far ast stability goes, though it is more stable than Netscape.
    Opera I've generaly found to be very stable and very fast, though it's not under a GPL, GPL-compatible, or even Open Source compatible license (well, strictly speaking, neither is Netscape)

    I haven't tried mozilla 0.9.2 yet, I've been hearing good things about stability, but I haven't gotten around to grabbing it yet, prehaps I should, but I doubt I'll be suprised, it'll probably be a lot more stable than earlier versions, but I doubt they've made it as stable as IE5.5 yet.

    By now I can hear people yelling "Are you crazy?! IE crashes constantly!", well I'm here to tell you that contrary to popular opinion, it doesn't.
    I've had it exhibit instability maybe a dozen times since version 5, which has been out for some time. It's outright crashed, *shrug*, maybe 6 or 7 times. This is in win98 and win2k, can't speak for win95, haven't used it since 98 was in beta.
    IE simply is not the unstable peice of crap it was in 3.x and 4.x, it is a mature, stable product. Yes it's from Microsoft, and yes, it's responsible for a deluge of non-compliancy with standards, but it is STABLE.

    (this'll probably get me modded down by the anti-microsoft zealots that refuse to accept that a microsoft product is superior to something else, I don't like Microsoft any more than you do, I'm simply informing the public that IE is not as unstable as people belive.)

  10. Why we need a lightweight browser by hysterion · · Score: 3

    I say : As a maintenance tool for low end boxes.

    (Such as, say, the old PPC I use as a gateway to the net. 3 years old, 180 MHz, 32 meg RAM.)

    On such a machine, you need something to

    1. Browse local help pages;* **
    2. Search the web for code and rpms;
    3. Download these onto the machine.
    * Bonus if it can read man and info pages, (like gnome-help-browser).
    ** Double bonus if it supports find string on page (unlike g-h-b).

    Skipstone is nice (uses gecko and fewer gnome libs than galeon), but I found it still memory hungry and a quite bit slower than g-h-b, or legacy Netscape for Mac on the same hardware.

    (The one I tried compiled against Mozilla 0.9. Although there may be good progress since, I wonder if gecko may just not be lean enough... Moz 0.9.2 is still a big memory hog on my other machine -- like 50 meg after a little browsing, where legacy Netscape would stay around 30.)

    Encompass uses gtkhtml instead. Can anyone comment on it? Will it do (1), (2) and (3) above? I still need to figure out exactly what dependencies it needs to compile. Anyway, it seems promising -- see this review and some more recent news.

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  11. Interesting stuff on KDENOX by einhverfr · · Score: 4
    My first thought was, "This would be great for those old 80486's I have laying around." However, then I realized an important shorcoming... On low end machines you can get advanced functionality by running X because the X server really serves out your display to various clients (usually programs on the same computer) and this can be used to set up thin clients with almost no hard drive, RAM, etc.

    So it is not as useful as I first thought. However, it would be useful for setting up internet kiosks on low end machines. This could be useful where the machine's primary function is to access web pages and perform various console type applications. Particularly useful for libraries and schools, I would think...

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  12. /. editors merely clever KDE trolls in disguise? by tempest303 · · Score: 5
    Ok, I know this is a little petty, but is it just me, or does it seem like every time the Gnome or Mozilla projects do something cool, the /. editors posting the story just HAVE to mention Konqueror or KDE, especially in a context of "well, Mozilla is neat, but Konq can cure cancer, AIDS, and make your kid 25 IQ points smarter."

    For all they talk about it, you'd think it has features like buttons for "Give head" and "Win Lottery." (Maybe those are in CVS?)

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  13. Mirror of galeon.png KSK@galeon.png by justrob · · Score: 3
    I've put the screenshot in Freenet.

    Retrieve with:

    http://localhost:8081/KSK@galeon.png
    or
    freenet_request KSK@galeon.png galeon.png

    Freenet: http://freenet.sf.net

    The CHK for this key, for the paranoid, is:

    CHK@iE7SmyIIP8rYKqT77jhdJjDcgB8OAwE,OHOBWuZQ703Mw9 YpjUxFpA

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