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New Linux Set-Top Project

An anonymous reader says "Linux4.TV is the official open-source website for interactive set-top box technologies based on the National Semiconductor Geode? SC1200 integrated processor and SP1SC10 development platform." Looks to be an interesting project, although since they require registration to download stuff, I'll never know.

145 comments

  1. I know there is no phrist coast but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I almost got it

    1. Re:I know there is no phrist coast but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Cool! But whats the point of predating future stories ?

  2. None by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    There is no point in predating future stories, just knowing that you could beat the system. And btw, it's the first time I do something like this, but all the hype about slashcode and the general double speech in some editors was a good incentive to become a predator.

    Just proving that there is ALWAYS a way to beat the system.

  3. what the? by Lxy · · Score: 2

    First thing I noticed when I access this site.. "site launched Aug 22, 9:00 AM MDT". It's currently 8:50 MDT, so technically this site isn't available for another 10 min.

    --

    There is no reasonable defense against an idiot with an agenda
    :wq
  4. Couch potatoes by oingoboingo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Linux combined with a TV...now there are even fewer excuses for the average lard-ass open source hacker to get outside and away from staring at a screen. Although...being able to watch an episode of Buffy while StarOffice starts up could be useful...

    1. Re:Couch potatoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But dont forget the one of the more futuristic and inovating feature : Nethack on TV!

    2. Re:Couch potatoes by philbin_sucks · · Score: 1

      Can you name any good reason why the linuxites wouldn't attempt to cross linux with anything else left on the planet? I guess a linux-enabled can opener is a bit off the list of possibilities, then again...

  5. Stephen King, author, dead at 54 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


    I just heard sad news on talk radio - Horror/Fiction writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. He was 54. There weren't any more details. Even if you've never read one of this books, you've probably enjoyed one of his movies. I'm sure we'll all miss him - truly an American icon.

    1. Re:Stephen King, author, dead at 54 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      This troll belongs more in the Fred Hoyle story. For this one, Natalie Portman, naked and petrified, and hot grits down pants are more appropriate.

  6. Who cares about the API's by dropdead · · Score: 1

    Another cool Linux hardware project, some how I think I'll be hacking the X-box before this thing ever hit's the shelve's.
    Note my optimisim, I actually think it might come out.

    --


    By definition, a government has no conscience. Sometimes it has a policy, but nothing more. - Albert Camus
    1. Re:Who cares about the API's by gamorck · · Score: 0

      Sweet! Man and I thought my troll was good - you have put me to shame sir. I salute you. :-)

      Gam

      "Flame at Will"

      --
      I love idealists not because I am one, but because they make life bearable for pragmatists such as myself.
    2. Re:Who cares about the API's by jawad · · Score: 1

      Sir, I would like to point out the fact you are not a troll. I have been here for quite some time, and the days of dmg, spiralx, 80md, jsm, and others were quite the times. You, sir, are a candle, while they are the Olympic flame. You, sir, are a butter knife, while they are a machete. You, sir, are three dollar crack to their $10,000/month cocaine habit. You, sir, are a $2 whore to their Natalie Portman. You, sir, are waffles to their ninja pancakes. You, sir, are cold grits in your shorts to their hot grits down their pants.

      Thank you.

    3. Re:Who cares about the API's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Bye, bye, MEEPTy, OOG, and Grits Guy....

      *sniff*

  7. cucumber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Hey Taco, when are you going to fix this bug

    1. Re:cucumber by gamorck · · Score: -1, Troll

      (2) Sweet! Man and I thought my troll was good - you have put me to shame sir. I salute you. :-)

      Gam

      "Flame at Will"

      --
      I love idealists not because I am one, but because they make life bearable for pragmatists such as myself.
  8. /. is not working right by gamorck · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yeah its offtopic - but /. is absolute crap right around now. Supposedly there was a database crash yesterday. OH MY GOD HOW CAN MYSQL OR PORTGRESQL CRASH? THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE!!!

    Im laughing - oh yeah - laughing real hard. Perhaps Taco should look into purchasing some REAL software instead of having him and his friends write slashcode. Its pretty obvious that slashcode 2.0 (codename fucked) cannot cut it in the real world.

    Oh yeah does anybody else know why the Mother Troll himself, Michael, has removed his email addy link from his postings? I suspect the little troll was getting a bit too many flames in his mailbox. What a wimp. At least Taco is willing to take it like a man and respond when you write him an email.

    Did I just compliment Taco? Woah - Hell just froze over. Eat your heart out Michael. And mod me down bitches - my karma is already at -6. HOW LOW CAN I GO? (What do you mean slashdot isnt the limbo?)

    Gam

    "Flame at will"

    --
    I love idealists not because I am one, but because they make life bearable for pragmatists such as myself.
  9. log in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    for those paranoid of registration, login as:

    Username: slashdot

    password: slashdot

  10. Good God! by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hear their mailing lists require registration as well. Those bastards!

    --
    Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
  11. Could be... by Ron+Harwood · · Score: 4, Funny

    a) Your clock is off.
    b) Their clock is off.
    c) It's an honest mistake.
    d) It's a conspriracy involving time travel - since you've discovered it you may be marked for elimination.

    1. Re:Could be... by mESSDan · · Score: 1
      For people who are wondering what this post is about, taken from Linux4.tv:
      Linux4.TV Launched
      The Linux4.TV website was
      launched on August 22nd at
      9:00am (MDT)
      --

      -- Dan
    2. Re:Could be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      What kind of useless comment is this? It's written in the top-level comment. I hope this isn't some lame grab for karma. Why don't you, mESSDan, reply, anonymously if you wish, and justify yourself?

    3. Re:Could be... by Galvatron · · Score: 1

      Hitting "parent" has not worked for me since the switch to 2.2, so that's probably why mESSDan thought that it was already a top level comment.

      --
      "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
  12. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by none2222 · · Score: -1, Troll
    Evidence, please.


    Until you present some evidence, or Rob confirms the payments from Microsoft, I will have to assume you are a troll.

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    If you have a problem with my views, REPLY, don't moderate!
  13. Destined to fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unless this thing has the functionality of the Okama Gamesphere, I see it going the way of the Indrema (kind of like ALL Linux-based projects these days, huh?)... bummer.

    1. Re:Destined to fail by connorbd · · Score: 2

      Well, see, the only people who are going to buy in because of the cute penguin on the box are us (who know what we're getting) and stupid VCs (who think, or thought, that Linux=$$$).

      /Brian

  14. Man of principles by briggsb · · Score: 2
    since they require registration to download stuff, I'll never know


    Right, but you'll send thousands of your closest friends over to check it out. Way to stand by your principles.


    On a less serious note, is Linux 4 TV anything like AOLTV?

    1. Re:Man of principles by PhilHibbs · · Score: 1

      What the hell are you talking about? Thousands of closest friends? Who would they be? Or do you really think that Taco should impose his quirky avooidance of registration on all slashdot users? Should any website that requires registration be banned because one of slashdot's editors doesn't like the idea? Get real!

    2. Re:Man of principles by briggsb · · Score: 1

      No, I don't think he should impose his quirky avoidance on all Slashdot users. I just find it odd that someone as public as him would worry about registration. Or that he couldn't just fill in fake information. Or that he would make a point of telling everyone that "he'll never know".

    3. Re:Man of principles by ziplux · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know why CmdrTaco is so opposed to registration.....you don't even have to put in real info! Jesus.

    4. Re:Man of principles by japhmi · · Score: 1

      Or that he'd run a website that has registration to use certain features...

      --
      "Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys" P. J. O'Rourke
    5. Re:Man of principles by GeekSoup · · Score: 1

      I was able to download the middle ware with out registration.

    6. Re:Man of principles by PhilHibbs · · Score: 2

      Really? Do you have to give out personal details to register for slashdot now?

  15. GPL Violation by Ex+Machina · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Perhpas we can get the GNU people to scream at these morons for requiring registration, Hello? GPL VIOLATION!

    1. Re:GPL Violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll start gathering the lynch mob....

    2. Re:GPL Violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not so fast. These guys can make you jump through as many hoops as they want to get to their product. It's only after you obtain their product that you can ask for the source code.

    3. Re:GPL Violation by DeathBunny · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Read the GPL sometime. Requiring a registration to download isn't a GPL violation. As long as they provide source to anyone who gets binaries and they don't try to add any restrictions on re-distribution and modification they're not in violation.

    4. Re:GPL Violation by PhilHibbs · · Score: 2

      Really? Which part of the GPL does that violate?

    5. Re:GPL Violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  16. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That's some crazy shit, dude. It seems a bit far-fetched, but it does explain a few things.

  17. jsm, veteran troll, dead at 35 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I just heard sad news on trolltalk - Puerto Rican street lawyer John Saul Montoya was found dead in his New Yawk City barrio apartment this morning. He was 35. There weren't any more details. Even if you've never responded to one of his trolls, you've probably visited his website. I'm sure we'll all miss him - truly a Troll icon.

  18. Why the snipe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks to be an interesting project, although since they require registration to download stuff, I'll never know.

    Oh come on, like you would have looked at anyways. You must have had some really fucked up parents taco because you find it impossible to compliment something without attacking it again in the same breathe.

    1. Re:Why the snipe? by philbin_sucks · · Score: 1

      Funny comment, but his point is valid. Why is it so damn nessessary to register for every goddamn thing that some one publishes on the fucking net for godsakes? After registering for every little piss-assed spot of print on the thing I admit I'm a bit jaded myself.

  19. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by shawnmelliott · · Score: 0

    It's obvious that Linux is permeating everything. I personally am glad to see that the Open Source movement is intruding on more of Microsoft's supposed holy patented ground (http://www.theonion.com/onion3311/microsoftpatent s.html). I wonder how Microsoft will show that UltimateTV is better because it isn't Open Source :).

  20. box mad by gavlil · · Score: 3, Funny

    just imagine the redhat boxes will be tuned to nickelodeon all day, debian boxes to a mixture of simpsons and the science channel and slackware boxes will only work will black and white low res (but fast and powerful) 1920's bmovies. Of course the *BSD version will be hard to find and the MacOSX box will be so user freindly that u never lose the remote.

    an xp version will only show adverts and will crash after excess channel hopping (patch to follow)!

    --

    Do Unto Others As You Would Have Others Do Unto You - ONLY HARDER!
    1. Re:box mad by connorbd · · Score: 2

      The OS X box will never show up -- I don't think anyone wants to relive the Pippin debacle...

      /Brian

    2. Re:box mad by stinkythumbs · · Score: 1

      Nah, u got the Windows XP version all wrong. It will run stable, but every once and awhile your neighbour will take control of it by typing 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000 into his/her remote while its pointed at your house.

      --
      I wish I had more hands so I could give this post 4 thumbs down!
  21. my project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  22. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by Kiss+The+Sp0rk · · Score: -1, Troll

    That is classic. The funny thing is, I actually believe it.

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    There is no contradiction.
  23. What's the target audience? by aegilops · · Score: 1

    What with the recent proliferation in alternative hardware for future Linux platforms (I'm thinking here of PS2, Xbox) this sounds like a further extrapolation towards the consumer IT device. Surely the end-user expectation is to just plug the thing in and get on with it. Issues such as DHCP, Broadband / PPP etc will have to work very well, particularly in all target areas in which they hope to sell this stuff (e.g. regional differences).

    In what way do you think the Linux.4TV platform will simplify configuration and updates for the end user? With an environment that revs as frequently as Linux, a purely automated system that keeps the kit up to date would be a major boon, and very much at odds with the normal end-user expectation for electrical devices - they're great for a few months but before you know it, they're yesteryear's technology and the only option is to junk them.

    Will these guys be paying attention to security, too? An automated "keep it current, keep it secure" mechanism a la Ximian Red Carpet would be another major selling point.

    Aegilops

    1. Re:What's the target audience? by Svartalf · · Score: 2

      Uh, they don't have to rev the software as often since it's

      1) On a flash
      2) There's not a lot there and few, if any services- it's intended to surf the web and provide a front-end for on-demand media services.
      3) It's not being used in a multi-user context

      Since you've got these three things, it's less likely that little Johnny Haxor is going to root this box by remote, etc.

      You don't need to update things if they're not broken for you- most of the updates are for functionality additions/improvements and for bugfixes. A set-top box or other appliance like device wouldn't need the updates as often.

      --
      I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
  24. Try linuxtv.org if want you code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go to linuxtv.org for GPL code for PVR, STB, DVD etc without registration.

  25. The Ultimate Linux Gobbledegook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  26. sourceforge registration by wiredog · · Score: 2

    I hear that some sourceforge projects also require that you be registered with them before you can contribute. They even require a login! I say we boycott every site that uses sourceforge for developement, in protest of this trampling upon our rights!

    1. Re:sourceforge registration by Entropy_ah · · Score: 1

      Which happens to include SlashCode

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      my other penis is a vagina
  27. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Where has the parent to the above post gone, was it deleted?

  28. Hmmm ... by jspey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It looks like National Semiconductor is trying to sell their hardware by getting Open Source programmers to write software for it. National Semiconductor wants to sell its hardware to resellers who can brand it and worry about bundling software with it so that it actually does something. Resellers will want to do this because they don't have worry about paying for software, since it will all be available for free.

    On the one hand, I have no choice but to applaud National Semiconductor and the linux4.tv people for coming up with such an ingenious way to leverage the open source community to make a buck. On the other hand, it bothers me that they plan to use freely donated software to make their product more appealing. It's one thing for companies like RedHat and Mandrake to charge you for the physical version of their linux distros, but somehow it feels wrong to me for a company to set up a situation where people will want to essentially write their software for them for free. It feels like they're setting a trap for programmers and baiting it with the increased acceptance and use of linux.

    I guess the bottom line is just whether or not they can save enough money buy getting free software to make their product cheaper than everyone else's, without having to use buggy code.

    Random thought: Since all the software is free, I suppose you could just buy a blank, unbranded model and install everythign yourself. Now that's an appealing idea, and truer to the ideas behind the open source movement.

    Mr. Spey

    --
    Cover your butt. Bernard is watching.
    1. Re:Hmmm ... by visualight · · Score: 1

      The Geode is designed to be modified, hacked, whatever. I've seen comments on slashdot before lamenting the lack of a "cool" form factor for embedded Linux projects. So here is one. I'm not even a programmer but I'm going to buy one just to see how many days I can go without sleep.

      The Linux4.TV website mentions the Geode as the reference model. Doesn't that mean someone can use a different platform if he wants to?

      Killer idea from National Semiconductor.

      --
      Samsung took back my unlocked bootloader because Google wants me to rent movies. They're both evil.
    2. Re:Hmmm ... by anat0010 · · Score: 1

      Dont assume that the 'open source programmers' are not going to be closely associated with the hardware manufacturers.

      You could view this as a way for the implementors to share code between them so the public gets a higher quality product. More in-house programmers from potentially competing companies pool together to write better code with public peer-review system. Plus programmers can move freely in the industry domain, since they dont have to spend months getting up to speed with code they have never seen before.

    3. Re:Hmmm ... by jspey · · Score: 1

      What I think they mean by "reference" is that National Semiconductor would rather sell the basic building blocks of the Geode to mass market companies (Sony, Panasonic, etc.) and have them assemble the final product. This would allow for different shapes and styles, a brand name and a logo in plain view, etc. However, in order to get people to start programming, National Semiconductor will sell you a plastic box with the geode inside of it.

      Mr. Spey

      --
      Cover your butt. Bernard is watching.
    4. Re:Hmmm ... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1
      I think you have a point, but of all the companies you could be sponsored by, I think National is probably one of the better choices.

      National is a good choice because it no interest in any of the current sticky issues surrounding content protection, digital rights management, etc. They are going to make and sell chips regardless of what happens--either way, people are going to want set top boxes.

      They're going to make a killing in the near future off of the embedded processor market. Every digital TV, settop box, DVD player, and a host of devices that are only being blueprinted now are going to use embedded processors. From National's angle, getting a foot in the door now means unimaginable profits later.

      Is National using the open source community as a source of free code? Sure--but that's what it's there for. That is a good thing, because it will ensure that important things related to digital television are GPLed and not proprietary. The more corporations that follow this lead, the more otherwise-closed areas will open up as open-source. At this point in time, National's goals and the open-source community's are complementary.

      -National wants to sell a lot of embedded processors and get into the lucrative consumer television market.

      -Open source software must find a way into digital television and set-top systems, or risk being closed out by proprietary systems and closed 'black boxes'.

      So National provides the hardware, and the open source/free software community provides the software under the GPL. Is it a good thing to get too tied to one hardware vendor? Absolutely not. But is it good to have an ally against corporations like Intel, Sony, and Microsoft? Hell yes.

      --
      "Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
    5. Re:Hmmm ... by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 2

      What's wrong with an arrangement where both parties benefit? I thought that was suppoed to be a GOOD thing. They get code, we get docs to write the code and the ability to use the product under Linux. They have an incentive to support Open Source, so that makes them more likely to do it.

      I want more partnerships between hardware companies and Linux, not less.

      --
      Just because it CAN be done, doesn't mean it should!
  29. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    What, you want a prize or something for exposing this? I think anyone who is paying attention already knows that Slashdot lacks journalistic ethics. I'm sure there are some Linux nazis out there who would cringe if this is true, but I just don't give a fuck either way.


    Glad to see you got moderated into the ground. Take your offtopic conspiracy theories elsewhere.

  30. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Wow, looks like the comment that you were replying to was actually deleted! I can't find it anywhere here even at a -1 threshold. Perhaps they were right when they said that they changed the comment numbering system so it would be harder to notice michael deleting comments...


    --sdem

  31. Interesting.... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Site got /.ed before it even officially opened? I guess that's impressive.

    They seem pretty set on using the SC1200 semi, but never really say why...I mean, there are a lot of chips to choose from, and I would be interested to know why the SC1200 is the one to use. Oh...okay. I get it: National Semiconductor is one of the sponsors.

    But that's not bad, though. Personally I've had good experiences ordering parts from National. I wonder, when they get this done, could you choose to get the schematics and parts lists and build it yourself? Or maybe just get the printed circuit boards and key components as a kit?

    I read something yesterday that said that TiVo (http://www.tivo.com) used GPLed code in their set-top system, and released the source code to the public. I am looking around on their site right now and haven't found it yet, but I would think that Linux4tv would be silly not to try to use it, if possible.

    Their web site doesn't give a whole heck of a lot of information on it, but I'll give them some slack, seeing as it only launched "officially" twelve minutes ago.

    I like the .TV TLD, though. Wonder if it was a bargain or if they had to pay a premium? And why the heck do you have to register to download?

    --
    "Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
    1. Re:Interesting.... by maroberts · · Score: 1

      I have a TiVo - IIRC they made some modifications to the kernel which they have released (I believe for better real time support and to support the filesystem) under the GPL; however the main TiVo program is NOT GPL for the simple reason that they need to protect their subscription payments.

      I'm not sure which came first, National support or the choice of National IC, but one reason could be that to make a reasonable set-top box they need a chipset with a lot of the required features of a settop box to keep the need for extra ICs down. One feature of such a box needs to be that unnecessary costs are kept to a minimum.

      P.S. Is the IC chosen a CPU, microcontroller, or just an IC which requires an external CPU ?
      I'm too lazy to RTFM!

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      Donte Alistair Anderson Roberts - hi son!
      Karma: Chameleon

  32. There's an article about linux4.tv . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    at linuxdevices.com, which gives an overview of the linux4.tv project and which provides a whole bunch of links to other projects such as the tvlinuxalliance.org and tvlinuxtv.org, products such as the linux-based sylvania internet/tv and nokia's linux-based set-top media terminal, ..., and lots more.

  33. Set ?Top? Box by Ella+the+Cat · · Score: 1

    The black box shown on their site looks like a PC to me. I wouldn't like to try balancing it on a TV, especially not a dinky European TV. Now before someone points out that the picture is the development platform, this begs the question of what the target STB will be like. Consumer electronics has to be living room and family friendly, not some big black technophile status symbol. Reminds me of the Xbox - try lugging that around to your friends house on a pushbike.

    1. Re:Set ?Top? Box by cworley · · Score: 2


      It's a reference platform. It's got every piece of junk in it any board maker would want. All reference platforms are like this. It's not intended for general sale.

      --
      When I die, please cast my ashes upon Bill Gates -- for once, make him clean up after me!
    2. Re:Set ?Top? Box by Ella+the+Cat · · Score: 1

      My point exactly. -Most-, not -all- reference platforms are like this. :-)

  34. WARNING M0R0N ALERT by Ex+Machina · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    yhbt.

    yhl.

    hand!

  35. Hmmph by l33t3$t_hax0r · · Score: 1

    Looks to be an interesting project, although since they require registration to download stuff, I'll never know.

    To me, this is a childish and silly reason to not get involved in a project and just shows the pig-headed mentality of Taco and those like him.

    I don't want to drive a car, because that would mean giving my address to the government so I can get a license! Sounds pretty stupid, huh? Yep.

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  36. Don't worry, Rob by fobbman · · Score: 2

    I'm sure that SOMEONE will take care of that registration for you so that you won't have to.


    "You've got mail!"

  37. Commercial project?! by Rapunzel · · Score: 1

    Just compare http://www.linux4.tv and http://embedded.censoft.com/. Seems like the guys at Century Software are trying to get someone to program software for free so they can sell their set-top boxes later.

    BTW, simliar projects have been around over here in Europe for quite a while - and those require no registration to download software and specs. Just have a look at http://dbox2.elxsi.de/ or http://www.cadsoft.de/people/kls/vdr/ ;-)

  38. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    It appears that the parent post to which you are responding has been deleted. Yours and several other posts have been reparented to the top of the thread. Is "The Truth about CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft" so bad that CmdrTaco has reneged on his "absolute free speech" ideals and deleted it? Is Anne Tomlinson involved? Maybe someone should provide a mirror of the original posting, in an external location where it cannot be deleted by CmdrTaco or Michael's censorious hands. I'm dying to read it.

  39. Comment WAS Deleted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That is really fucked up. It does look like they deleted the comment, and now they're modding down the responses.

    1. Re:Comment WAS Deleted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      THE TRUTH HURTS, CmdrTaco and Michael. I guess that's why you deleted it. Just wait until the entire slashdot populace hears about this censorship. The double-talk is unbelieveable!

  40. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by clontzman · · Score: 0

    Probably with something witty like "Ours is shipping."

  41. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Is there a super-sleuth out there who can deduce the missing post number? Maybe someone has a cached copy and can repost it? I wanna know what got Taco so mad that he deleted the post and forgot to delete the replies!!!

  42. What's going on? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I typed in Slashdot.org but all I get is Crashdot.org.

  43. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by l33t3$t_hax0r · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Someone repost the damn thing, please?

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  44. Nietzsche, author, dead at 167 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Nietzsche is dead.

    Übermenschs will miss him much -
    a true philosophy brain mangler.

  45. Try *THIS* Set Top Box!!! It Really Works!! by egg+troll · · Score: -1, Troll
    THE ULTIMATE GIF VIEWING ACCESSORY!

    The other day I found an amusing and informative text file on some BBS or other, explaining how to make a lifelike, artificial vagina "out of common household products." Hey, I thought, I've tried that. (Bet you have, too. Be honest.) I was intrigued. The guy who wrote it calls his device Porta-Pussy. It involves a mailing tube, a string, and a balloon. Basically, you lower the balloon into the tube, stretch the neck of the balloon to overlap the outer edge of the tube, then use the string to stretch the balloon down the length of the tube. He suggests taping the tube to the edge of a table, kneeling down and licking it for a while, then standing up and fucking it.

    I just tried fucking it. It wasn't bad. I decided not to try the advanced applications, though, which include sticking a dildo up your ass and drinking the cum as it leaks out of the tube. Another time, maybe. But I did admire his imaginative design; simple to make, reasonable facsimile, easy cleanup (throw away the balloon). His description made fun reading, too; "How I Spell Relief." I encourage others to download his file (called IWACK1.ZIP).

    So, in a spirit of sharing, here's my technique. It doesn't look as authentic as his, and it takes more preparation, but I think it feels MUCH closer to the real thing. Close your eyes and the PseudoCunt (this name just occurred to me; snappy, huh?) feels just EXACTLY like a warm, wet, tight pussy. You think I'm kidding, right? Nope. Read on, if you're so inclined.

    CONTENTS:

    1- Registration

    2- Materials & Ingredients

    3- Construction

    4- How to Use

    5- Hints & Techniques

    6- Troubleshooting

    7- Why I Created PseudoCunt

    REGISTRATION:

    Ha, ha. Get it? It's software. Real soft. If you figure out who I am, send me some money. PseudoCunt is not shareware, by the way. It's recommended for use alone.

    MATERIALS & INGREDIENTS:

    * Cylindrical container (see below)

    * Large pot (3-4 quart capacity)

    * Butter or margarine (2-3 tablespoons)

    * Vegetable oil (just a drop or two)

    * Saran Wrap or equivalent

    * Spaghetti or fettucini (lots; two boxes)

    * Sturdy rubber band

    * Several big, firm sofa cushions (optional)

    * Your favorite masturbation fantasies in magazine, video, gif, or virtual form

    CONSTRUCTION:

    1- Find a suitable container. This is the tough part. The best one I've found is an overlarge Mason-type jar (about 11" tall), though these are hard to find. Second choice would be a length of PVC pipe sealed at one end, or a mailing tube, but it should be at least five inches in diameter. A half-gallon cardboard milk carton might work, with clever modifications.

    2- In a large pot, bring two or three quarts of water to full boil. Add a tablespoon of vegetable oil and a pinch of salt. Boil spaghetti to aldente texture (about 8 minutes). Any pasta will do, but I find spaghetti and fettucini most satisfactory.

    3- Drain spaghetti, but do not rinse. Mix in A FEW DROPS of vegetable oil (be CAREFUL not to use too much; use just enough to keep the spaghetti from sticking together) and stir well. Set aside in colander until cool enough to handle.

    4- While spaghetti is cooling, melt some butter (not much; about 1/3 of one of those little butter pats you get with toast in a diner is enough). Don't let it boil; 15-30 seconds in the microwave should do it.

    5- Stuff spaghetti into the container described in Step 1. Really pack it in tightly; as tight as you can cram it in. This is crucial to success. I use wooden cooking implements to tamp it down. When the jar is about 3/4 full, bore a hole down the center with something long and moderately thin (I use the long handle of a wooden stirring spoon) and continue packing spaghetti around it, up the brim. Remember to pack tightly; spaghetti will compress a lot more than you'd think.

    6- At this point, remove the rod or dowel or whatever, and pour a SMALL amount of melted butter down into the little hole to lubricate it. (By the way, I've found that butter or margarine feels much more like the creamy inside of an aroused cunt than any kind of oil; and I've tried quite a few). Stick your finger in and work the lubrication down into the little hole. Feels interesting, doesn't it? Close your eyes and probe, slowly; does that feel just EXACTLY like a wet pussy hole, or what?

    7- Now, use something wider and slightly tapered to widen the mouth of the surrogate vagina (I use the neck of a wine or beer bottle). Do this gently, and don't widen it to your full dick diameter; you want it to be nice and tight.

    8- Cut a generous length of Saran Wrap and stretch it tightly over the mouth of the jar. Fasten it tightly with the rubber band. Now punch a hole in the Saran Wrap in the obvious place. (Use a pencil, or a spoon handle, not a knife; a sharp cut will make the Saran Wrap tear.)

    HOW TO USE:

    1- Pile two or more big, thick sofa cushions on top of each other. Make an identical pile next to the first, leaving a 12-inch space between the two piles.

    2- In the space between the cushions, spread a towel (or newspaper) on the floor. If properly constructed, your PseudoCunt should not make a mess unless you really get carried away, but it's a good idea to protect against this possibility.

    3- Position the PseudoCunt jar on the floor between the two cushion piles.

    4- Lie across the cushion piles, chest on one, thighs on the other, dick dangling in the space between. Now, gaze lovingly at whatever fantasy object you prefer, tease the head of your dick against the warm, slick mouth and begin fucking.

    HINTS AND TECHNIQUES:

    * Before you get started, check with your finger to make sure your PseudoCunt has cooled to the proper temperature. You don't want to burn yourself. Optimum temperature should be obvious if you're a reasonably sexually active person. Push your finger in as deeply as you can; the bottom of the jar may be too hot even though the mouth is a nice, warm, cuntlike temperature.

    * The PseudoCunt is not recommended for quickies. Choose a time when you're absolutely certain you'll be alone and undisturbed. PseudoCunt takes some time to prepare, and a fair amount of what's called in cinema and theater circles 'suspension of disbelief.' It can't be fully enjoyed if you're worried about your wife or girlfriend walking in and finding you fucking a jar of spaghetti.

    * Size of the container is important. Make sure it is at least two inches deeper than your dick is long, and wide enough so that your dick is surrounded by a generous cushion of pseudo cuntflesh. You don't want to bang up against the hard sides or bottom of the thing at a crucial moment.

    * Shape of the container is important, too. I like the jumbo jar configuration because the "shoulders" of the jar where the neck narrows help to keep the spaghetti in place when you withdraw on the out-strokes.

    * Don't use too much butter. A very small amount should suffice. Remember that your own secretions will increase the lubricating effect. It's not generally recognized that grease and oils actually DE-sensitize erectile tissue. A thin coat of oil on your dick is like wearing a condom. I find that the absolutely perfect effect is achieved by adding just a *tiny* amount of butter, then slathering saliva all over my dick just before first penetration. The combination of butter, saliva and natural lubrication that leaks from your dick feels closer to authentic vagina arousal than any oil I've ever tried.

    * Make adequate preparations. Arrange your favorite magazines on the floor in front of you, or display a particularly fascinating GIF, or make sure the VCR is cued up and the remote is handy. One of the real joys of using PseudoCunt is that it leaves both hands free to work the VCR remote or languidly browse through magazines, savoring the tight cunt sucking wetly at your dick with each slight movement of your hips. With careful preparation it's a damned comfortable position, and you can just lie there for as long as you please, indulging as many fantasies as your self-control will allow.

    * For best results, fuck slowly and gently on first penetration. This allows the PseudoCunt hole to adjust to the proper diameter.

    * Don't ram your dick in to the bottom at first. Go slowly, and try to restrain yourself as long as possible, fucking a just a little deeper at a time. Each time you stroke a little deeper, the PseudoCunt is a little tighter, and incrementally warmer. The sensation is fabulous if prolonged. I like to keep the last inch or so unpenetrated until I'm just at the point of cumming, then grunt and howl and plunge to the bottom and blast my sperm into the tight warmth deep down inside.

    * Sound effects, if authentic, can really heighten the effect. Porn videos just don't do it for me. Too contrived. I have a few audio tapes that do, though, and once in a while I'll put on the headphones while fucking my Pseudocunt. One is a tape I made by concealing the microphone in the headboard of the bed before fucking my wife doggy-style (you should consider trying this; it's incredibly arousing to hear the rutting grunts and screams of a woman you know). The rest are recordings of phone-sex conversations with two former girlfriends -- one in particular, whose panting and gasping and whimpering as she masturbates is truly phenomenal.

    * Shed all inhibitions. Admit to yourself that, while this may seem truly bizarre behavior, it feels incredibly good. Get hedonistic. Get totally naked. Or wear leather, or panties and a bra, or clothespins on your scrotum, whatever makes your dick throb and ooze.

    TROUBLESHOOTING

    If you experience problems with your PseudoCunt, the fault most likely lies in your choice of materials, or lack of attention to proper construction techniques.

    Commonly experienced problems usually have simple solutions:

    Too hot for comfort

    If too hot, allow to cool at room temperature. Don't get impatient and put it in the freezer, or outside in a snowbank. If it cools unevenly, you're in for a very unpleasant surprise.

    Not warm enough

    If too cool, place jar in a pan of water on the stove and simmer for at least 30 minutes. To spread heat more evenly, make sure the water covers at least 2/3 of the jar, and place a wire rack beneath the jar to raise it off the bottom of the pan. If a glass jar is used, you can heat it in a microwave oven for a minute or so. [This procedure is not recommended if using a waxed cardboard milk carton.]

    These heating techniques, by the way, are handy for repeated use of your PseudoCunt between washings, unless you're too squeamish for sloppy seconds.

    It's also occurred to me that a hair dryer might be a quick alternative, but I haven't tried this. I'm not sure I could maintain a hardon or a straight face kneeling there naked and blow-drying a jar of spaghetti.

    Bits of greasy spaghetti cling to your dick on withdrawal

    This is normal. While the problem cannot be eliminated entirely, the effect can be minimized by several means:

    1- Make sure spaghetti is packed in VERY tightly.

    2- Use a high-shouldered jar (see above) to help keep the spaghetti in place on the out strokes.

    3- Make sure hole in Saran Wrap is not too large. Punch, do not cut, this hole to prevent tearing.

    PseudoCunt makes distracting slurping noises

    You used too much butter, or oil, or both. Or you've gang- banged your PseudoCunt one too many times and you need to clean it out and start over again at Step 2.

    Of course, if you want to fantasize about oral sex, this could be regarded as a design feature rather than a problem.

    Greasy stains on sofa cushions

    My wife responds to greasy stains on upholstery by immediately dumping a big pile of talcum powder on the spill, letting it sit for a while, vacuuming it off later, then calling in a professional furniture cleaner to finish the job. I try to avoid stains by making sure the Saran Wrap is tightly secured with the rubber band, and by spreading a towel over the leading edge of the sofa cushion pile. I'd rather not have to explain PseudoCunt stains to my wife.

    Fetid stench

    Throw away the spaghetti and wash the damn thing. Unless mold and bacteria growth play an essential role in your sexual fantasies, repeated use of the PseudoCunt is not recommended beyond, say, 24 hours. Refrigerate after use.

    WHY I CREATED PSEUDOCUNT

    No, I'm not a social outcast or a phobic recluse. I have a normal sex life (pretty fabulous, actually) so I should explain why I continued to experiment with masturbation techniques in adulthood, long after abandoning the clumsy remedies most teens invent to draw off excess spunk. One reason is simply that I'm a very sensuous person with a vivid imagination. I've found that I can occasionally attain amazing heights of sexual arousal when I masturbate. At the risk of sounding immodest, I've induced some of the best orgasms I've ever had. Another reason is that I am aware of absolutely no physical or psychological reasons not to masturbate, and can't help wondering if the world might not be a better place if more people did. Whether they use fists or balloons or spaghetti.

    Finally, it provides a fabulous way to indulge certain sexual fantasies that just can't be shared no matter how skilled and understanding one's lover may be. Know what I mean? If you're inclined to give this thing a try, I hope it enhances your own secret fantasies as much as it does mine. If you have a technique of your own, write it up and post it for others to share. If you find the whole concept disgusting, why did you read this far?

    --

    C - A language that combines the speed of assembly with the ease of use of assembly.
  46. linux set top boxes by gordona · · Score: 1

    As someone who developes specifications for hardware and software for the cable industry, there are several issues that are not immediately addressed on the web site, but perhaps are addressed after registering for their various groups and getting the download files. The first is that for cable, interactive set top boxes require that have reverse channels, require a hightly optimised OS that can handle perhaps a couple of hundred different types of interrupts. Additionally, for cable systems, conditional access is an absolute requirement. For retail boxes, this will come in the form of removable PCMCIA devices that are specific to the particular cable operator.

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    "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!" -- Dr. Strangelove
    1. Re:linux set top boxes by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1
      I'm looking forward to seeing how they manage conditional access. I haven't been into the groups or register-to-download portions of the site, but from what I've seen so far, you might not have to deal with anything related to the cable system, if the Linux4tv just plugs into the output from whatever decoder you already use. But if you do that, it's basically just a glorified VCR.


      In my area, the cable converter is a large black box the size of a VCR (if you have digital cable) manufactured by General Instruments. Cable goes in, video feed goes out. How would a device like the Linux4tv work in a situation like mine? Unless the L4tv had a way of talking back to the big converter box, it wouldn't have any way of changing channels. And since the converter doesn't have any controls other than the remote (no control ports on the back, I checked), I don't see how you would get a set-top box to work.


      Anyone have any ideas on how they plan to do it?

      --
      "Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
    2. Re:linux set top boxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what??

      The motorola DCT does not have hundreds of innterupts. Cripes there's a 68hc11 in there for IO and a basic motorola embedded processor. What processor do you use that has hundreds of innterupts? is there an 8bit innterupt bus? how do you send simultanious innterupts when they are multiplexed? or does the chip have hundreds of innterupt pins.

      Set top boxes dont need 1/2 of what you claim. and from what I see in the industry (I play with what the Cable customers will be using in 3 years) there's less power in there than a 486 basic home computer has.

    3. Re:linux set top boxes by michael_cain · · Score: 2
      A cursory look through the Web site turns up a link to the CableLabs DOCSIS cable modem standard, but nothing about the recently released Open Cable Application Platform (OCAP) spec. Open Cable is the umbrella project which has already set standards for the mentioned PCMCIA conditional access hardware. OCAP attempts to specify a processor- and OS-independent middleware for set top box applications so that the cable companies and their partners can develop services that run on any compliant retail digital box.

      OCAP is currently based heavily on HTML, ECMAscript and Java. Microsoft is understandably lobbying heavily to have Java excluded. One of the more interesting requirements in the spec is that the box must run software provided by the local cable company that can control which other software can have access to low-level resources like the tuner.

  47. Why are you afraid to register? Privacy is gone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Malda, Robert
    2001 Woodlark Dr
    Holland, MI 49424
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    pic

  48. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"

  49. Yes by wiredog · · Score: 2
    Perhaps I should have put "#define SARCASM" at the top of the post?

    Damn near every open source/free software project requires some sort of registration before you can contribute, and many require it before you can download. Thus, my tongue in cheek post.

    1. Re:Yes by Entropy_ah · · Score: 1

      i know you were being sarcastic, i was merly pointing out the irony

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      my other penis is a vagina
  50. The SC1200 features a hardware overlay system by dmouritsendk · · Score: 1

    From linux4.tv:

    "The Overlay subsystem API is used to do hardware overlay of video data on graphics data. This is mainly used to display video coming to the frame buffer through the Video Input Port (VIP) in the SC1200/SC1210 Geode Multimedia Processor. The input to the VIP can be from the TV tuner, or an MPEG decoder. Along with overlay, this subsystem can also do alpha blending of video data with graphics data.

    Quite usefull for a settop :o)

  51. You know you want to... by sharkey · · Score: 2

    Looks to be an interesting project, although since they require registration to download stuff, I'll never know.

    C'mon, Taco. These things would probably make a kick-ass MP3 jukebox. They'll sit right by the stereo and use a remote with more buttons than a Macintosh's mouse.

    --

    --
    "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
  52. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I'm sure Michael Sims has already seen to it that the original poster's entire IP block is permanently banned, so it's possible we will never know "The Truth about CmdrTaco, et al." If anyone out there saw the original post, maybe they can extract it from their Temporary Internet Files to repost it. The Truth is Out There!!!

  53. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I got bit by that the other day.

    I don't know what would be more pitiful -- the idiot /. crew deleting troll posts critical to /., rather than having a moderation system that works -or- slashcode 2.2 is so fux0red up that it's loosing posts.

    [slashdot ate my balls.]

  54. Geode SC1200 by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1
    Here's the info I got on the Geode SC1200, which is going to be at the heart of the Linux4tv. It's actually quite a little chip....more info available here.

    (This ripped mercilessly from the above URL.)

    • 32-bit x86 processor, up to 266 MHz, with MMX instruction set support
    • Memory controller with 64-bit SDRAM interface
    • 2D graphics accelerator
    • TV controller with hardware video accelerator
    • CCIR-656 video input port with direct video for full screen display
    • PC AT functionality
    • PCI bus controller
    • IDE interface
    • USB, three ports, OpenHCI 1.0 compliant
    • Audio, AC97/AMC97 2.0 compliant
    • Virtual System Architecture (VSA&#153) support
    • Power management, ACPI 1.0 compliant
    • EBGA package
    • 32-bit x86, up to 266 MHz, with MMX compatible instruction set support
    • 16 KB unified L1 cache
    • Integrated Floating Point Unit (FPU)
    • Re-entrant SMM enhanced for VSA

    It's got IDE support, PCI, serial and parallel, video capture. Quite an impressive device. I wonder if once the Linux4tv guys get a distribution for it, whether it would be possible to buy a few and create a low-cost parallel processing array. Of course, I haven't seen a price on it yet...

    Thanks for the info on the TiVO GPLed code, maroberts.

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    "Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
    1. Re:Geode SC1200 by maroberts · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info on the TiVO GPLed code, maroberts C'est rien.

      Sounds like the device has the bits and pieces to do everything required. The TiVo (again IIRC) uses a mere 50MHz PowerPC chip [being RISC, this probably delivers similar performance to a 200MHz Pentium, but a lot of TiVo reverse engineers believe the Tivo gets very near to its processing limits at times] with a number of support chips.
      If you're really interested in the TiVo, see the ongoing discussions in the TiVo AVS forum:
      http://www.avsforum.com/ubbcgitivo/Ultimate.cgi
      Also Andrew Tridgell (of Samba fame) has done some engineering to get the TivO to take a network cardand other goodies. See
      http://www.samba.org
      for more details.

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      Donte Alistair Anderson Roberts - hi son!
      Karma: Chameleon

  55. Competes with TV Linux Alliance? by Krelnik · · Score: 1
    Is this complementary to or in competition with the TV Linux Alliance?

    The latter seems supported by a wide variety of companies.

    1. Re:Competes with TV Linux Alliance? by Svartalf · · Score: 2

      Probably competing- it's more akin to Nokia's OST project, though...

      --
      I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
  56. WTF's going on here? by clontzman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Strangely, every comment in the "The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft" thread got modded down to 0 or -1 simultaneously... plus the parent post disappeared. I'm not typically a conspiracy nut, but this is starting to stink.

    1. Re:WTF's going on here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      And, quite interestingly, all responses have been modded offtopic. When have moderators been so thorough in pushing a whole thread into -1 oblivion before? I agree this really sucks. The goddamn jerking-off penis guy wasn't removed; what could have been so goddamned sensitive? Previously, the only comment ever removed from /. was that scientology nonsense (also offtopic at the time) but Taco made a big show of it, saying "we never delete posts". Or, perhaps, this one single comment was a victim of the same "database crash that wiped out several hours of data". This sucks, Taco. We demand an explanation NOW.

    2. Re:WTF's going on here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      was there really a parent ? - Just curious whether you actually saw it with your own eyes or not. If not it might be a troll, if you DID see it OTOH than it smells indeed.

    3. Re:WTF's going on here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      can we have some non-AC's with a reputable posting history verify that there WAS a post ? You might lose some points but it's for a good cause if it's true.

    4. Re:WTF's going on here? by graveyhead · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Agreed. If this was a troll, it was a damned good one :-) Perhaps it had something to do with this?

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      std::disclaimer<std::legalese> sig=new std::disclaimer; sig->dump(); delete sig;
    5. Re:WTF's going on here? by www.ILoveJesus.com · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      I can testify to it. I saw the original post when I first browsed this article at about 11:00am EST. My initial impression was that it was just like the usual *BSD is dying type trolls... some seemingly factual content strung together with rhetoric and such. Lots of numbers, amounts of money changing hands, etc.

      Can't remember a word of it since I wrote it off as a troll immediately, but now that it's gone I'm not so sure there wasn't an element of truth in it. I already checked my cahce, but it looks like the most recent cached copy is from after 11:30 or so, when people started noticing the comment was missing.

      I certainly hope this is a troll and that CmdrTaco hasn't taken to deleting comments to cover up some hidden agenda, or even just to eliminate noise from the signal. That's what moderation is for. The editors' stance on unconditional free speech is one of the things I actually like about /., and if they are not practicing what they preach, I'd be the first one taking my readership elsewhere.

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      Jesus is my System Administrator.
    6. Re:WTF's going on here? by DonkPunch · · Score: 1

      and if they are not practicing what they preach, I'd be the first one taking my readership elsewhere.


      They aren't. You won't.

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      Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.
  57. Development platform by barryp · · Score: 1

    So how difficult/expensive is it to get a hold of one of those SP1SC10 development platforms? Say for an individual interested in hacking with some cool hardware, as opposed to a company developing a commercial product. I didn't really see anything on the website other than "contact a representative".

    1. Re:Development platform by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1
      I have a feeling that these chips are probably pretty pricey, and they won't be exactly willing to send a lot of them away as samples.


      If you really wanted to get your hands on a freebie, a good way might be to get involved in coding for the Linux4tv project, and then see if they'd send you one. If my programming experience included anything other than AppleSoft BASIC, I'd probably be over there signing up now.

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      "Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
  58. The SC1200 seems to be by dmouritsendk · · Score: 1

    A little bit of everything, It has a integrated 32bit X86 compatible with MMX support(but how fast is it?? the pdf @ national.com(the sc1200 one) says it runs up to 266mhz), named GX1. GX1 has a integrated : 2D graphics controller, a 64Bit DRAM interface, PCI controller.

    Besides the GX1, the SC1200 features: a integrated videoprocessor(blending/overlaying, scaling, filtering, TV encoding) , a IDE interface (ATA33 though), CCIR-656 video input port(kinda cool), USB, Power management, IO contr(IR, parallel, serial), audio features, and a clock!

    Check this info out:

    SC1200

    GX1

  59. Do you know the term "Plug & Play" by da5idnetlimit.com · · Score: 1

    Look,

    Usually it is mostly "Plug and Pray"

    BUT

    You buy a new DVD set wich can do on the fly VCR, frame grabs, DVD, MP3.

    You also are a White American with an IQ averaging 85.

    YOU DON'T WANT THE END USER TO MESS WITH THE SOFT !

    'cause most ot them are Morons when it comes to computers...AND it will boost your support costs if 1 out of 3 customers opens the box and fiddles!

    They know how to take it out of the pack (as in Beer 8) plug it to 2 devices (power AND tv) and then laborously decipher the doc...to start at "Push START") =>

    SOFT HAS TO BE BUNDLED TO ACHIEVE SALES
    SOFT HAS TO BE OPEN, so your 14'old will come and Bash into it 8)

    If the soft is free, it cannot be resold if under some specific licences...maybe here is the thing devs could do.

    Personnaly, It took me 2 weeks, some friends and a brand new Hair Set to get a BAD, FewOptions, No Fast Forward DVD hooked on TV with Linux / PII 350 / DVD Card / Creative Labs / TNT2 Ultra

    To be noted I am not that good in Linux. I prefer windows 3.11 8) (flamebait. Okay. But You know.... you used it too 8)

    Now I am W98 + Power DVD + Winamp. And you know what ? IT WORKS !!! With Cordless mouse / Kb 8)

    Which is all I ask. I can see ripped Divx, DVDs, VCD, MP3, CD + Internet Access...

    Of course stability of 98 rarely exceeds 5 days... But if I can't see it in 5 days, I probably never will

    Then OMS (http://www.linuxvideo.org/oms/) will someday work and I will happily load it and cry softly over all those losts Hairs.

    Information Wants To be Free !!! But first you have to be able to read it somewhere...

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    It takes 40+ muscles to frown, but only four to extend your arm and bitchslap the motherfucker
    1. Re:Do you know the term "Plug & Play" by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      "Now I am W98 + Power DVD + Winamp. And you know what ? IT WORKS !!! With Cordless mouse / Kb 8)"

      I just got the same setup done for my girlfriend except add a sterio, VCR & TV. She loves it too.

      IANAP but I probably will by some version of this whenever some software is available for it. As long as it will talk to the rest of the machines in the house, I'll be happy..

      Jaysyn

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      There is a war going on for your mind.
  60. Actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    A guaranteed first post lets you spend a lot of time on crafting a quality troll that most everyone will see. Even a half-assed troll will get plenty of responses this way.

    -sting3r

  61. Go to www.allwell.tv by Svartalf · · Score: 3, Informative

    There, you can buy the bare machines in bulk...

    Realize, however, that a Geode isn't a speed demon- never was.

    National has yet to sell any set-top solution and most of the set-top vendors have yet to make a dent in things.

    Why?

    Because the software's nothing like a PC- even though people don't want a PC, they want the Web to look and act like the PC on the box. It's also because they've been using underpowered chips like the Geode to save on costs (The bill of materials on most Geode based boards is ~$100US.)

    That's about to change...

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  62. More information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    is available here

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  63. Umm, yeah? by VivianC · · Score: 2

    So I guess I have to ask, "So, what's new?" This has been going on at Linux-Hacker.net for over a year. And they have a link to GCT-Allwell who offer a number of links to completed projects.

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  64. PCI card with special hardware, most likely... by Svartalf · · Score: 2

    If it's a digital video feed, a la digital cable (DVB format, etc.), they've got DVB cards that will handle everything except the conditional access part; that would be handled by a smartcard reader on board with the decryption keys- just like for DirecTV and Dish Network.

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  65. Just Curious XXX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder which distro will be tuned to pr0n channels all day? Is there an official pr0n distro?

  66. Are you the goatse guy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    He's called sting3r, be I not mistaken.

  67. Software Cable Descrambler? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What software-type cable descramblers are there available? I ask for purely educational reasons...

  68. The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft? by jawad · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Hey, do you have the original cached? Even crusing at Threshhold:-5 didn't fix the problem that the original is gone. (For those youngin's amongst you, back in the day, the censors preferred method was to mod something down to -2 or below, so even those at default -1 couldn't see.)

    THEORIES :

    (1) Reading the title, "The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft" makes me think that this was another lame "BSD is dying!" post, but now that it's been deleted, I've got to wonder. Has Taco gone mad? Has Michael screwed up yet again? Is there really a story behind Rob allegedly getting paychecks from Microsoft? Maybe this is why Slashdot has been sucking recently.

    (2) It was a helluva troll. No posts were deleted, a bunch of people (or maybe the same person with multiple accounts) replied to the top level with the Re: The Truth subjects, and maybe even bothered to moderate themselves down.

    If this WAS a troll, I give it high ratings. This is one of the top three multiple post trolls, right up with there with the AC who had an extensive flame war with himself (based on alleged facts!) and more recently, the Anne Tomlinson incident.

    If it wasn't a troll, I suspect this will be modded down, so then if it is, I ask moderators to push me up. Not because I give a crap about my karma (If you think I do, check my posting history. AND I'll be posting with my +1 bonus), but because I think this should be addressed.

    Plus,
    - I have a relatively low UID,
    - It's a long post.

    Prove another conspiracy theory correct by modding me up!

    1. Re:The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft? by jawad · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Whoops. Forgot the obvious.

      (3) Slashcode 2.2's been eating posts! Or has it? It's been kinda screwy, with the database crash of yesterday, and all these other broken features (notably, the [domain] links.)

      But anyway, my post didn't automatically drop to a -1, which takes steam away from the first theory.

    2. Re:The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft? by www.ILoveJesus.com · · Score: 0, Troll
      But anyway, my post didn't automatically drop to a -1, which takes steam away from the first theory.

      Check again. You've got mods! It appears that "someone" is attempting to silence even those who theorize about some sort of conspiracy. As I understand it, if you get modded down 5 times in one day, you get your IP banned for 24-48 hours, so this is a nice little way to censor dissenting voices.

      The only way we can get this out in the open is for as many logged in, +1 posters as possible to demand an explanation from CmdrTaco. They can't mod us all down without making the situation even more suspicious.

      Even if this is a troll of immense proportions, all it takes is a simple statement from Taco that "no posts were deleted, it's a troll, etc." People will be able to draw their own conclusions, and the facts will speak for themselves.

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  69. No HDTV Bad long Term by Kagato · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Problem is there isn't any 8vsb (Read HDTV) support in the platform yet. Which makes me question the long term vision of the project.

    Right now most of the current crop of 8VSB computer hardware is based on the TeraLogic Janus platform. While the platform is certainly offers nice features and would be easy to integrate with any open source STB I doubt it will never see the light of day in Linux. Two years ago Teralogic was all over Linux. They sent mail to various lists, offered sample cards. Times have changed. Asking about linux drivers or even docs gets curt responces from the devel team. [Insert standard MPAA rant here].

    So, while an actual opensource platform is a cool idea, certainly giving more features than Tivo or WebTV, long term, I just don't know if it's worth while.

  70. Any set top box will fail by ioman1 · · Score: 1

    There have been many set top boxes based off of Linux code that have failed. This is nothing new and will prolly fail as well since no set top boxes in development will make it.

  71. The box problem by Animats · · Score: 3, Insightful
    What's really needed is a generic set-top PC platform produced in volume. Then there will be something worth developing software for.
    What would you want in such a box?

    • "No User Serviceable Parts Inside". The end user doesn't open the box. This is TV, not PC.
      So no PCI slots. PCMCIA slots, maybe.

    • Several disk drive bays, with disks installable by non-technical end users. (Device Bay, the packaging spec for plug-in 1394-compatible drives, would have been great for this if anybody used it.)

    • Set-top-box form factor. Slim, not PCI board height.

    • Well-shielded tuner section. Must work in fringe areas with poor antennas. (VCRs have this now, but most tuner cards for PCs don't do it well.)

    • No matter what, it always boots up. If a disk gets corrupted, or a hard drive crashes, you can still watch TV, even if you can't record. The base software belongs in a PCMCIA ROM card.
      (OK, developers can use a flash card.)
  72. Etherware by sabinm · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Sorry. Not going anywhere. No one can do a single thing w/out bandwidth.
    Imagine a flight attendant offering you a inflight movie while you were sitting in an airport with a 5 hour delay. A great service, with nowhere to implement it. ;)



    Remember those cool AT@T commercials, where those cute kids pushed a button on their TV screen and out pops "Star Wars" immediately, on demand?



    Have you ever .... You will! And the company is going to bring it to you is AT@T.



    That was 7 years ago. I don't have any illusions about all these cool new ideas. I know exactly where they are heading w/out the infrastructure to support them. Cool idea heaven, somewhere is Vaporville.

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  73. Anybody Have A Copy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Unfortunately, I hit refresh quite often when browsing Slashdot. I did see the post in question, it was one of the earlier posts to this story. I read the comment at most a few minutes after it was posted. It had already been modded -1, and I imagine it got deleted shortly after that. I have no way of retrieving it now (short, perhaps, of an advanced computer forensics lab).


    Hopefully, someone has a copy. But the sad thing is, if you're reading this, even if you first read the story before the comment was deleted, your browser has probably already overwritten the comment in question. This is a fucked up state-of-affairs.


    Like most of you, I ignored the comment, and don't recall much of the content. But if it has been deleted, I'm most interested in what it had to say. I can only hope someone managed to save a copy.

  74. Jesus Tap-dancing Christ, Taco... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


    I wish I was too cool to complete any sort of registration / read comments on Slashdot / buy a console gaming platform / get linked my a major news portal / post a story without adding commentary / date human beings.

  75. Why specialized hardware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    It seems I should have must of the functionality with my video4linux compatible tv card. Whats the buzz?

  76. HDTV is Dead by Royster · · Score: 2

    No one wants it. Cables operators won't be carrying it becuase it costs them more $ and takes up several standard channels. When the dealine hits and 0.01% of all televisions are HDTV capable, the deadline will be put off indefinately.

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    1. Re:HDTV is Dead by Kagato · · Score: 2

      Not to burst your bubble, but the facts don't match up to anything you said.

      First off, many cable carries in the top 15 markets are already catering to some form of HDTV. And not Just HBO-HD or Showtime-HD. For instance the Time Warner cable system in my area made a deal with the PBS station to carry 5 DTV feeds. I personally have DBS, which has a small, but expanding selection of premium content that compliments the Over The Air content I recieve.

      Second, 0.01%... Man, you're on crack. First off most Front Projection televisions sold in the previous 5 years could be cheaply ungraded to DTV. Most medium to high end data grade projecots (LCD, DLP and the like) can handle DTV from low cost tuner box. Direct View DTV units are falling on a monthly basis, and the price gap in Rear projection DTV is becomming fairly slim.

      Sales have been weak, but when you consider that many of the early adopters most likely already have an HDTV compatible display, then consider that major hardware makers have been having to go back to the drawing board to put in place MPAA mandated Content Controls. Yeah, sales could be better, but you're still looking at several hundred thousand units in the channel right just this year.

      Point is this. HDTV is not like the Metric system. The only people with a vested interest in changing was sign painters. Every major consumer electronics maker is banking on DTV. The FCC is banking on selling off the old bandwidth.

      HDTV is here, it's not going anywhere, and dispite your opinion, many of us are already enjoying HD content.

    2. Re:HDTV is Dead by Royster · · Score: 2

      Sales have been weak, but when you consider that many of the early adopters most likely already have an HDTV compatible display, then consider that major hardware makers have been having to go back to the drawing board to put in place MPAA mandated Content Controls. Yeah, sales could be better, but you're still looking at several hundred thousand units in the channel right just this year.

      Several hundred thousand <gasp!> it's a drop in the bucket. The Content Controls will kill HDTV for good. "What do you mean I can't tape Buffy the Vampire Slayer?"

      The electronics industry may be staking their future on it, but unless people have a real *reason* to HDTV, it just ain't gonna happen. If the FTC tries to turn off the old broadcast stations before 98% of the people are ready, there will be riots in the streets.

      I see all the local electronics stores heavily promoting HDTV equipment. But no one is buying.

      Enjoy your HDTV. I'll get one when I can tape my favorite shows.

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    3. Re:HDTV is Dead by Kagato · · Score: 2

      This is the first year HDTV hit widespread comsumer electronic stores for a wide release (i.e. you could go into a top 20 market Best Buy or Circuit City store and walk out today with a DTV.) Sales of DTV's is similar to year 1 of DVD players. By your logic there is no reason DVD sales should have taken off. The only compelling reason for purchasing a DVD player was quality. You couldn't record with it. The media (although cheaper to make) is not actually cheaper than VHS. The is the only compelling reason for purchasing a DVD player or HDTV is quality.

      Content Control is a problem. Two of the last three HDTV content control articles on slashdot were posted by me. So know this very very well. There are some brights spots to the Content Control problem. Mostly being that it's against the law to encrypt an Over the Air TV broadcast. Thus it comes down to the hardware vendors honoring the flags sent with the stream. Apex 8VSB tuner and VCR anyone?

      Third, it's the FCC not the FTC. And no one is going to riot. Over 80% of the US gets it's Television via cable TV, another 7% get it via DBS. Cable companies are One) Trying to sell digital content. Why? More money because you can force people to lease boxes. Two) they are going to down convert the OTA channels for the customer anyway.

      I used to work retail electronics. Although I'm out of the field I still know people who are selling electronics. And they don't agree with you about "no one is buying".

  77. Re:Try linuxtv.org if want you code by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    That's nice. but not the same thing... not even close.

    This is for the integrated demo development platform device. not a pc with a special sattelite reciever card that is useless in the states. two very different projects. with two very different levels of quality. The project talked about here is worlds apart from the linuxtv.org it's useable, can actually be purchased (unlike that sat card for linuxtv.org, I think I found a distributor in germany that might send me one if they can understand my request correctly.) and is a total solution instead of a hack. nothing to dog their work, it's cool and great. but when you do amazing things on hardware that noone can get..... you're pretty much making it a members only club.

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  78. Re: metric system... by litui · · Score: 1

    Hate to burst your bubble but to my knowledge the whole world with the exception of the US has switched mostly if not entirely to metric. Somehow I doubt we're all sign painters. Of course, Americans like to be different and I applaud that, but when billion dollar NASA projects do dumbass things because people still do calculations in Imperial (which is the name of the system you use in that non-imperial democratic republic of yours) then convert to metric (badly), some changes need to be considered.

    Anyway, my apologies for the rant. I agree with you regarding HDTV though here in Canada we still have no sign of it from cable companies. Ours has said that they estimate 5 years before they even attempt at HDTV support.

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  79. As solid as Nokia Media Terminal (aka vaporware) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Basically this is more vaporware ala Nokia Media Terminal. Every time I check, the hardware will be available "next quarter...next year..."

    How about a product that meets timelines?

    I understand development cycles better than most, but eventually one of these efforts is going to require the production of an actual product.

    Perhaps I'm just taking out some frustration on these poor guys, but I want to see a product. I'm sick of getting asked to write software for something that will never appear. Talk about a waste of time (been there, dome that)...

    Before you get all upset, please ask yourself what you would do if the Evil Empire in the North West delayed a much awaited product...Oh that's right, this is Slashdot. What am I thinking?

    Now, try applying those same guidelines to these vaporware projects. Push these projects for hard and fast deadlines.

  80. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    As I'm fairly influential in the Open Source community, I'll have to also admit to receiving some money from Mr. Gates, however, not for any nefarious purposes such as 'astroturfing' or otherwise twisting the truth or whatever else is being alleged, I simply got Bill some rock. You just can't be the worlds richest man and go strolling down to your nearest crackcorner and score, however, being the influential leader of the Open Source software development community, your average crackdealing homie wouldn't know me from RMS, besides, rock dealers commonly run enterprise versions of Microsoft products.


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  81. Re: metric system... by Kagato · · Score: 2

    I don't want to come off as a prick, but you didn't burst my bubble. But you're wrong on both counts. One, the US was not the only country that didn't switch to Metric. For example, the UK still has good old MPH on the speed limit signs. And no, we do not use the Imperial system. For instance, an imperial gallon in the UK not the same size as an US gallon.

    Although Cable in your part of Canada may be behind, the DBS system in Canada is actually ahead of the game. Even better than US DBS systems actually. You can get the big three US networks in HD, as well as showtime, HBO, etc.

  82. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    eat me

  83. Re: The Truth About CmdrTaco, VA, and Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    eat me