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Timothy Ney Hired As Gnome Foundation Director
Leslie Proctor writes: "The GNOME Foundation announced today that they have hired Timothy Ney as Executive Director. Tim is well known in the Free software community for his work with the FSF. More details at www.gnome.org." The actual press release is online, as well as Gnome news. Having worked/talked with Tim before, this is great news for The Gnome Foundation -- Tim's an incredible guy.
Is that the same Timothy who takes it in the ass here on Slashdot? Surely you must know him, Hemos! You've torn his anus at least 3 times...
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...this discussion won't degenerate into millions of posts yelling "Tim Ney! TIM NEY!!"
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Between Covad, Loki, and god knows who else having financial trouble, it's really nice to see a company going in the right direction and hiring people. Especially in an area where Linux has been labeled as lacking, namely in the GUI department. I can't wait to see what GNOME has in store next. Good luck and congrats Tim!
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Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when last month IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick nd its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
*BSD is dying
sorry is i'm harsh but 99.999999% of the readership probably don't know who the fuck Timothy Ney is. The article writeup could have at least explained who this guy is some more.
All I know is, most people wouldn't know him from a hole in the wall. So how is he so deserving of his job change being blasted to everyone???
KDE is far superior. I will NEVER use that fucking GNOME trash!! fuck GNOME. GNOME IS GNARLY GNASTY GNIGGER SHIT.
Nothing can save Gnome now from KDE, not even Timmy boy.
What a cool statistic! Now I'm really interested to see this statistic for KDE. Somehow I get the impression that the number of paid KDE developers is smaller than 100.
How is it that KDE is keeping up with them then? (surpassing, even, IMHO) Greater support from non-paid developers? Perhaps I am wrong about the number of paid KDE developers.
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take me now, hampster boy!
I'm having trouble believing that this Gnome-related story wasn't ended with a "Personally, I use Konqueror..." or "...even though KDE does blah blah....".
I think this is a first, ladies and gentlemen.
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I think the reason is political. KDE has a loose policy where lots of developers contribute what they want and the kore team accepts whatever meets their standards and has a logical place in KDE.
GNOME on the other hand is an official GNU project and subject to the squabbles that accompany that official political role. The developers get into arguments a lot more and it is much less clear to developers if their work will be applauded or ignored. Under the circumstances, they do pretty well.
Even for paid developers, who is to say that Ximian, Sun and Red Hat want the same thing as RMS and the steering comittee.
Even Slashdot wants to hide some things
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I heard screamin' and bullwhips cracking
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Southern man better keep your head
Don't forget what your good book said
Southern change gonna come at last
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-Neil Young
Punk means thinking for yourself
You aren't hardcore cos you spike your hair
When a jock still lives inside your head
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-Dead Kennedys
Hit the nail right on the head. I salute you.
KDE has it's base done (very well) by a whole other group called Trolltech. They make QT, and that leaves the KDE team to focus on things like Konqueror, Koffice, and all the other things that make up the desktop.
Punk means thinking for yourself
You aren't hardcore cos you spike your hair
When a jock still lives inside your head
Chorus:
Nazi Punks
Nazi Punks
Nazi Punks...FUCK OFF!
Nazi Punks
Nazi Punks
Nazi Punks...FUCK OFF!
If you come to fight, get outta here
You ain't no better than the bouncers
We ain't tryin' to be police
When you ape the cops it ain't anarchy
Repeat chorus
Ten guys jump one, what a man
You fight each other, the police state wins
Stab your back when you trash our halls
Trash a bank if you got real balls
You still swastikas look cool
The real nazis run your schools
They're coaches, businessmen and cops
In the real fourth reich you'll be the first to go
Repeat Chorus
You'll be the first to go
You'll be the first to go
You'll be the first to go...unless you think!
- Dead Kennedys
Linux faces a bleak future. In fact there may be no future at all for Linux because Linux is dying. Things are looking very bad for Linux. As many of us are already aware, Linux continues to lose market share; red ink flows like a river of blood. Slackware Linux is perhaps the most in endangered. Let's look at the numbers.
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MandrakeSoft's CEO Henri Poole states that there are 70000 users of Linux-Mandrake. How many users of Debian GNU/Linux are there? Let's see. The number of Linux-Mandrake versus GNU/Linux posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. The refore there are about 70000/5 = 14000 GNU/Linux users. Slackware posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of GNU/Linux posts. Therefore there are about 7000 users of Slackware. A recent article put RedHat Linux at about 80 percent of the Linux market. Therefore there are (70000+14000+7000)*4 = 364000 RedHat Linux users. This is consistent with the number of RedHat Linux Usenet posts.
Now Linux companies are consolidating, overhauling their business plans, laying off staff, scaling back expansion plans and pushing back profitability schedules. "It would seem there are too many distributions for the market to bear," said Gartner analyst Tom Henkel. (http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,26
Red Hat, Inc., the leader in developing deploying and managing open source linux solutions, announced on a reported basis, a net loss of $24.2 million. (http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-
Turbolinux, based in Brisbane, Calif., a Linux-based software provider has withdrawn a $60 million initial public offering "in light of current market conditions." (http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/010320/n20215287_2.html) (http://cnnfn.cnn.com/2001/03/20/deals/ipo/)
Clayton-based Linuxgruven.com, a Linux training and service company with 106 employees, laid off 100 employees (http://stlouis.bcentral.com/stlouis/stories/2001
Lineo withdrew its initial public offering in January. Caldera Systems delayed the acquisition of Santa Cruz Operations' Unix software by a quarter. Linuxcare laid off dozens in February, with Linuxcare co-founders Dave Sifry and Dave LaDuke are among those departing. VA Linux Systems cut 114 people in February and delayed its expected profitability by nine months. (http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,26
Due to the troubles of Corel, abysmal sales and so on, Corel Linux is going out of business and was nearly taken over by Microsoft who sell another troubled OS. Owing to the GPL, SuSE is laying off almost all of its US staff. Major marketing surveys show that Linux has steadily declined in market share. Even LinuxWorld.com shut down "because of the economy and everything else" (http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/03/13
Linux is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Linux is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyists (i.e. those who dabble with Minix, Xinu, etc). Linux continues to falter. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Linux is dead.
indeed.
Met him in World Social Forum 2000.
Yeah, we heard this before. This is old news, and just because someone at Slashdot hears it, it's new news.
Yeah, it's great, as we heard last month. Thanks.
Will be better if the FSF got a team to work full time in GNUStep, IMHO, the next big thing, and technically better that gnome.
With the Foundation at 1.0, and the AppKit reaching it, all that GNUstep needs is a working Project Builder/Interface Builder and it will be the ultimate development environment for Linux, and hell, Unix in general. Not to mention, GNUstep is nearly source-compatible with MacOS X, so GNUstep could open a HUGE amount of software to be ported over to Unix from MacOS X.
this story's comments are 80% troll. if there were a surer sign that nobody gives a shit about this piece of news, I'd like to see it.
this is some booooooorrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnngggggggg g and worthless shit. get real. we don't give a FUCK about petty shit like this. never have never will. FUCK OFF
god dammit you shit for brains loser... NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THIS SHIT ARTICLE!!! posting something serious about this lame shit just shows what a complete and total dumbfuck you are.
Click on this NIGGER for a good laugh.
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For example. . . "eventssuch", "anadvocate", "toorganizations"
That should change after KDE 3 is released, since the API will remain stable (binary-compatible even!) for some time, allowing an application base to build up. I think it was the big change from KDE 1 to KDE 2 that made KDE fall behind in the apps department, and GNOME will likely experience a similar phenomenon with its next major release, probably occurring within KDE 3's lifetime.
Unfortunately, KDE 3 will break binary compatibility with KDE 2, which will definitely hurt KDE's application base; KDE 3 will have both API changes and use the new TrollTech Qt 3.0.
From the Linux Kernel Cousin archives "The Road Ahead: KDE after 2.2":
there was concern over third party developers as Waldo Bastian noted saying, "Although I understand the advantages, in general I think that major version updates are very bad for KDE because it fragmentates the efforts of third party developers. There are plenty of applications out there that have never been ported to KDE 2, hell, even in our own CVS we have tons of applications that still have to be properly adapted. (grep for QDialog to see what I mean) In think that KDE's current strength is its framework and that actual applications are its weak points. Moving to Qt 3 is a huge improvement for the framework, but it puts a strain on application developers. Development can go too fast as well, you know. Having a great KDE 3 desktop is nice, but not if we lose all application developers in the process."
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holy crap! I almost thought you said "Timothy Rue!" the delusional comp.sys.amiga.misc troll!
(-1,Tim Rue)
Its the underlying library Qt. It supports C++ natively, and is developed by a company and a large team of paid developers. This makes people write KDE software.
I prefered a lot of things about GNOME, but wanted to write object-oriented C++, and unfortunatley, Gtk-- is written by a single developer, and doesn't seem to develop as fast. Its possible that a product done by a company could have longer longevity than a product by a single individual too.
So I went to Qt.
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"Unfortunately, KDE 3 will break binary compatibility with KDE 2, which will definitely hurt KDE's application base; KDE 3 will have both API changes and use the new TrollTech Qt 3.0."
GCC 3 also breaks binary compatibility
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I think the Abiword developers would disagree with you there. Abiword is part of Gnome Office. Its a testament to abiwords interoperability and cross platform status that you dont think its a gnome app, its a shame more Gnome apps dont try as hard to be cross platform.
http://news.gnome.org/998345737/
read this, scroll down to that big comment done by an user and read the truth behind gnome.
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To be fair the number is slightly to large (you have to reduce the number by about 3).
06.07.00 329
10.08.00 344
29.09.00 360
06.10.00 366
21.11.00 391
10.12.00 402
16.01.01 415
23.02.01 431
22.03.01 454
20.04.01 471
19.05.01 486
18.06.01 506
25.07.01 529
21.08.01 546
As much as I apreciate the KDE efforts, I don't want Gnome to be left behind. What I like about GTK+/Gnome is that in contrast to Qt/KDE it is far easier to use in non-C++ languages. There a zillion of language bindings for GTK+/Gnome out, so I have the freedom to write for it in the language of my choice - hey, I can even use Haskell do write GTK+ apps :-)
Besides, I like the fact that Gnome performs notably faster and less memory consumpting on smaller machines (my notebook comes to mind) - as long as you don't use Nautilus.
BTW, any news on Nautilus? Although it's very bloated, I like that thing. Don't let it fade...
Yeah, this...
Binary incompatibility is unavoidable, since GCC 3.0 isn't binary compatible with GCC 2.x. KDE is simply using the opportunity to break everything at once instead of having several smaller breaks which would be much worse.
The API changes will be very minor. In fact, most KDE programs will probably be able to be ported with a Perl script or something similar. The idea is not to change the API so much as fix known problems with it in preparation for keeping it frozen for the future. This will be nothing at all like the KDE/QT 1 -> KDE/QT 2 change.
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