No One Wants The Not-Coms

angkor points to this Siliconvalley.com article about companies not jumping for the newfangled TLDs like dot-biz. "This is delicious revenge for all the spam I've gotten reminding me to reserve new domain names now before they're all gone ... ." Besides the nice sound of "dot com," perhaps the restrictions surrounding the new official TLDs help to prevent them selling like hotcakes. The world won't be fair until the LED museum and similar sites are offered -- No, given! -- .museum addresses.

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It's easy to see why nobody is buying these

[Infonaut]

1) It's obviously just an excuse for the domain registrars to make more money.

2) Web users don't grok it. Let's face it, most Web users think AOL is the Web. They don't know about .gov or .org, they don't even know .mil exists, and if you throw a .ru or a .uk at them, they can't cope.

3) Would you want to have your company at: mygoofyasscompany.biz? It just sounds so.. so.. 1990s!

Re:It's easy to see why nobody is buying these

[4n0nym0u53 C0w4rd]

I think that, more importantly, these new domain names don't add anything. .biz provides no useful semantic information. It's not like someone would say, "hmm, I'm not looking for a (.)company, I'm looking for a (.)business." Moreover, since the target market is companies, they already are likely to have .com names, thus making this redundant.

This is the equivalent of adding .com2 and .com3 -- nothing useful.

.kids or .sex or .personal or .protest would be useful. These are categories that aren't simply mirrors of existing TLDs.

Re:It's easy to see why nobody is buying these

[Alan]

I mentioned that to someone at work and he said he didn't think it was a good idea, as that makes things easier to filter out (or attack). I'm not saying I want my kids looking at pr0n, but I don't want a university or cable company or library (places where information should flow freely, even if it is jiggly bits) just banning *.sex I also don't want the spammers targetting the *.kids domains as they are "easy" targets....

Funny...

[tcc]

I've reserved a few .biz for the company where I work, and I've received an email today sounding like "you've been challenged to another apllicant with IP trademark and yadi yadah... (basically he payed the extra for the IP claim). And now, from what I understand, I would have to send in the trademarks papers (or #s) and all that stuff, plus (guess what) pay extra fees... for what... .BIZ? oh right, and then .buizness will come out, .company, .whatevertomakemorecashquiquickreservenow, I simply said 2 words to resume my application: F*ck it! (ok ok, "forget it!" was more like it :) )

I might as well be creative creating a new .com than going thru all that hassle, heck if I want to go thru that kind of problem, might as well negociate the .com I want with current holder (friendly buy or attack), it'll round up to the same thing with all the legal fees and trademark claims added up.

.com will be around for a long time to come

[dbolger]

Mostly because the new extended TLD's are just so damn ugly. Dot-Com, Dot-Net, Dot-Org are beautiful, aesthetically pleasing prefixes, that clearly explain what the website is about (at least, they used to till everybody and his stepson started getting them). Dot-Biz just seems too gaudy to be true, and Dot-Museum? Please! Some of these are just so ridiculous its untrue! Dot-Name? Where on earth is that going to go? Porn sites like BitchWhatsMy.name? That's about it. To be honest, the only one of the new additions I even find mildly acceptable is .info, and even thats stretching it. All in all, I'll pass on these thank you very much, and stick to the three original - and best, TLDs.

Re:.com will be around for a long time to come

[Fat Casper]

So... .gov, .mil & .edu? :)

Lets just give everyone a number..

[PopeAlien]

.. How about an IP address, assigned at birth.. Thats where you can host your site. Of course you always have jealousy over the really cool IP numbers, but hey, No copyright problems.

Re:Lets just give everyone a number..

[tswinzig]

.. How about an IP address, assigned at birth.. Thats where you can host your site. Of course you always have jealousy over the really cool IP numbers, but hey, No copyright problems.

Yeah, but the real question is, do you assign one or two IP addresses to Siamese twins?

Re:Lets just give everyone a number..

[ackthpt]

How about your ssn? 123.45.6789 oh, wait, they're running out of these and can't wait to recycle the ones from persons deceased. Well, maybe the SSA will re-do those, too, and cause widespread confusion 8-)

Seriously, when I first started on the net I knew more sites by IP address than by name, now I can hardly remember any. The neat thing then was looking at an address and knowing it was where it was from. Don't have much of a clue anymore with the way .com can really be pretty much anywhere in the world. Same would happen with the new TLDs, too, I guess.

It would be pretty neat to see an ibm.museum site, but probably run by some pr0n twink, as all these new TLDs are really for, that and making $$$ money, because ABC, CBS, IBM, AMR, DOW, etc all would need to glom onto them before the pr0n twinks and scam artists.

Hello from the President of IBM.biz,
We are offering new systems, software, support and a lifetime guarantee, just like major corporations use all over the world, all for $1000. Please charge to VISA, MC, DISCOVER, AMEX, including your preferred shipping address.

Harrison Fnord, CEO IBM.biz

e.g. First National Pr0n of Nebraska, Cobbco Pointy Sticks of West Lompoc, Starch Pressed Sock Co. of Greater Milwaukee
Intergalactic Bizness Makers, co., PO BOX 2, Pilasand, UAE

Re:Lets just give everyone a number..

[1010011010]

Give them a subnet

acronyms...gheez

[GutterBunny]

I'm going to put in for the .tld TLD

Re:acronyms...gheez

[Dr Caleb]

I've been dying for them to release ".dot".

"dot.dash.dot" are my initials in morse code.

No Interest

[Fat Casper]

There isn't anything beyond .com. Look around you- the Post Office is usps.com (I know .gov works too, but they have .com painted on the sides of their trucks). The Army is a .com too, as is the National Guard. The Post Office is ahead of them- neither one of them has it wired to a .mil. I really like one of the police departments in my area.

If the .govs and .mils feel like they need to be .coms, why the hell does anyone think actual companies would want anything else? Does anyone here know of any .edus that use .com? I think the .orgs seem to stick to .org pretty well. Come on- if I want info on something, I'll find their site and look for info there, not do a separate .info search.

Nobody knows them

[Kanasta]

No users know about these new TLDs or any businesses under them. No businesses will register any of these if they know no user is going to know where to find them.

Plus, no business would dare register under one of the new TLDs unless they owned the .com version. It's guaranteed they'd face a lawsuit from the .com owner, and we all know in these cases the money always wins.

Re:These could be useful

[J'raxis]

Actually it should be completely reversed into com.yahoo.www. Www is the name of a server at Yahoo, which is part of the com TLD. Writing it www.com.yahoo is as bad as the American MM/DD/YY date format (YYYY-MM-DD, the correct way [ISO8601], is in order largest-to-smallest).

Com.yahoo.www would then be in the same order as the directory structure (/dir/subdir/.../file.html); most general to most specific. Right now, hostnames are inverted relative to the directory tree.