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No One Wants The Not-Coms
angkor points to this Siliconvalley.com article about companies not jumping for the newfangled TLDs like dot-biz. "This is delicious revenge for all the spam I've gotten reminding me to reserve new domain names now before they're all gone ... ." Besides the nice sound of "dot com," perhaps the restrictions surrounding the new official TLDs help to prevent them selling like hotcakes. The world won't be fair until the LED museum and similar sites are offered -- No, given! -- .museum addresses.
My $0.02
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Who wants those domains anyway? If people would be creative with their domain name ideas, they can still find stuff out there. I just hope they don't make any more of those James Dean .tv commercials because they are NOT "cool".
...All I can say is that my life is pretty strange...
I was told over a year ago, that the great domains were already gone. So, to prove a point, I went a grabbed a "good" domain. My wife now runs a small profitable dotcom using the name...
.com space.
I'm sure I could do it again in the
2) Web users don't grok it. Let's face it, most Web users think AOL is the Web. They don't know about .gov or .org, they don't even know .mil exists, and if you throw a .ru or a .uk at them, they can't cope.
3) Would you want to have your company at: mygoofyasscompany.biz? It just sounds so.. so.. 1990s!
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
so it'll be some time before ppl begin recognizing these new TLDs. Slowly but surely they'll become as well known as .com and then they'll be a rush for that. So just wait.
...namely, for my BESM-6 museum? Well, it's more of a nostalgia page, but anyway.
I've reserved a few .biz for the company where I work, and I've received an email today sounding like "you've been challenged to another apllicant with IP trademark and yadi yadah... (basically he payed the extra for the IP claim). And now, from what I understand, I would have to send in the trademarks papers (or #s) and all that stuff, plus (guess what) pay extra fees... for what... .BIZ? oh right, and then .buizness will come out, .company, .whatevertomakemorecashquiquickreservenow, I simply said 2 words to resume my application: F*ck it! (ok ok, "forget it!" was more like it :) )
.com than going thru all that hassle, heck if I want to go thru that kind of problem, might as well negociate the .com I want with current holder (friendly buy or attack), it'll round up to the same thing with all the legal fees and trademark claims added up.
I might as well be creative creating a new
--- Metamoderating abusive downgraders since my 300th post.
Mostly because the new extended TLD's are just so damn ugly. Dot-Com, Dot-Net, Dot-Org are beautiful, aesthetically pleasing prefixes, that clearly explain what the website is about (at least, they used to till everybody and his stepson started getting them). Dot-Biz just seems too gaudy to be true, and Dot-Museum? Please! Some of these are just so ridiculous its untrue! Dot-Name? Where on earth is that going to go? Porn sites like BitchWhatsMy.name? That's about it. To be honest, the only one of the new additions I even find mildly acceptable is .info, and even thats stretching it. All in all, I'll pass on these thank you very much, and stick to the three original - and best, TLDs.
.. How about an IP address, assigned at birth.. Thats where you can host your site. Of course you always have jealousy over the really cool IP numbers, but hey, No copyright problems.
air and light and time and space
Of course no one is buying those TLDs, haven't you heard the slow down of the .com bloom since last year? And with all those gloomy forecasts for the next few years, good luck trying to sell them off. Beside with the current laws most companies are probably automatically entitled to their tradenames. Want to bet how far you can go with amazon.biz before being sued?
;-)
I suspect timothy just want a chance to slip in that link to the LED museum, which is much more interesting than the main story
Codeala - Just another mindless drone
Right now basically the new .biz is just a tax on the successful .com companies that are having a hard enough time as it is. If they did get one, it would be to forward it to their .com address anyway. It might remove some of the cruft from .net though.
.biz.
.tv that was bought for tv programs to use is basically a link to their .com if they have one at all.
Perhaps in a few years when VC get eager to dump money around and new startups are made that will start with a
Look at the
On a commercial: "Just log onto companyname.biz"
"Honey, go look at that web site that they just talked about.
"Okay."
Fires up AOL
click click click (companyname.biz.com)
"It doesn't work!!" I'll never buy anything from them!"
I'm going to put in for the .tld TLD
managers...why god invented purgatory
.biz .info .somemoneymakingtld will never, in the mind of the public, be as sexy as a .com. How can it be? .com is the internet to so many people the same way that if you don't start a web address with www. then they will put it on regardless.
.biz just sounds a bit unprofessional i guess. As for .museum and .coop why can't they use .info and .org seeing as that is what they are. and why is there a .pro when they could use the new .name for a personal site or .org/.com for a professional ORGanisation or commercial site. Ok, so .com is overloaded but thats just tough, come up with something origional damn you marketing people.
.com is the only thing the masses recognise and these new tld's just sound a bit shoddy when you say them out loud.
Apart from the CC domains which are good for country specific sites these new tld's don't really trip off the tongue that easily either.
So, to summerise my post...
ok. bad post but it is late here ok.
I used to have a cool sig, back when I cared
The premise of new.net seems to be get enough people pointing their DNS systems to hit your server and you don't need to be in the ICANN root. Problem is that the domains only have a 5% probability of working for a given net user.
I wouldn't give a @#$^^ for new.net except for their paid flacks popping up arroung the net to shill for them. The scam seems to be they get a bunch of tasty names then shill endlessly in an attempt to get the new.net root incorporated into the ICANN one so their tasty names suddenly become worth squillions of dollars.
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Every once in awhile they do something stupid that has unexpected positive side effects. The less they like alternatives to .com, the happier I'll be. This will serve to keep 'em all in the .com corral with all flash and flim-flam they love so much.
If the .govs and .mils feel like they need to be .coms, why the hell does anyone think actual companies would want anything else? Does anyone here know of any .edus that use .com? I think the .orgs seem to stick to .org pretty well. Come on- if I want info on something, I'll find their site and look for info there, not do a separate .info search.
I spent a year in Iraq looking for WMD and all I found was this lousy sig.
... was show.biz
"It takes many nails to build a crib, but one screw to fill it."
your PD would probably have to be something like: .com makes sense there, my school district is lausd.k12.ca.us, most people can't remember that! the teachers can't remember their own email addys!
seabrookpd.city.state.us which no one can remember (most peoples eyes glaze over after the 2nd dot) so
Photos.
...noneofyour.biz
I haven't read too much on the TLD's, but I was under the impression that one of the points of the new TLD's was so that if some company had a mangled domain name like the the'company_name'inc.com, they had another opportunity to get a real one 'company_name'.biz. So I'm glad to see that the companies that have a .com are not scooping up all the .biz's.
Although I guess if they do become popular, all the dot com's will pull the same legal crap that got them their domain name from those other places when they originally applied??
Kid_A
"Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos." -Homer Simpson
of trademarks, that they made dot com synonymous with the Internet.
Indeed, most of the current problems are due to the authorities perverted and twisted sense of protectionism towards big business trademarks.
The solution to the trademark and domain name problem is hidden by authorities to abridge free speech.
The United States Department of Commerce violates the First Amendment - WIPO.org.uk
The real reason that there is not a rush to the new TLD's is because of prestige. Having a .com tld implies a level of establishment. Everyone will know that the .biz is the new kid on the block. Given a choice between ibm.com or ibm.biz, there is no doubt that the .com has a greater social value in today's climates.
.com's are the established, knowledgable, and better places.
It is almost as if the
gus
.. if only.
No users know about these new TLDs or any businesses under them. No businesses will register any of these if they know no user is going to know where to find them.
.com version. It's guaranteed they'd face a lawsuit from the .com owner, and we all know in these cases the money always wins.
Plus, no business would dare register under one of the new TLDs unless they owned the
With the general abuse of the top level domains they hardly mean anything anyway. I can see it reaching a point where they do away with .com .org etc and we just end up with www.slashdot instead. I remember a time you used to need company documents to register a .co.uk, now 15 quid and no questions asked.
Anyhow, what with all the 'dot gone bankrupts' and 'dot can't be bothered to cough up $35 again this year for each of the 200 domains I thought would be popular' we're seeing a lot of domains becoming available again.
The fact is that most of these new domain names are too much money and don't have the recognition value of .com . When people think of the Internet and domain names in general, they think of .com. The only reason why anyone would want to buy any of the new TLD's is to protect against cyber squatters and only corporations or people with deep pockets will attempt that since there is a plethora of new TLD's. There are the other ICANN-unapproved new.net domain names that require a special plug-in to work. I doubt anyone is registering new.net domain names since your audience would be severely limited.
.biz just sounds un-professional. It's the suffix for an online lemonade stand at the online garage sale.
What are the country equivalent (2nd leel domains)?
.com.au the UK and NZ are co.uk and co.nz respectively.
In Oz we have
Will this mean that we might have info.au and in.uk or inf.nv ?
What about bi.uk or bi.nz what does that say?
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Perhaps, but not all of them belong there either. The city I live in uses a .org: http://www.hamilton-city.org/.
There is nothing right about .biz either.
.com, .net and .org domains will become available.
In 2-3 years a whole lot of
Some people will keep on cybersquatting, but any domain name worth cybersquatting that's not infringing on trademarks has already been sold.
I'm halfway cybersquatting... I have a couple of domain names that I haven't done anything with other than point them to my servers. I do have plans for both of them though, just have other stuff that has higher priority.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
I have a .com domain that is the same as .co.uk domain. I get large amounts of email for people at the company in the UK. Not only from people outside the organisation (who have typed .com without thinking) but also from people inside the organisation that have registered at web sites with .com instead of .co.uk.
These people don't even know their own email address!
Just need long ID numbers such as the OID's used for LDAP and similar services. =)
I send you this message in order to have your advice.
To help relieve overcrowding, the Internet's oversight body last year approved seven new suffixes, the first major additions since the domain-name system was created in the mid-1980s.
I thought it was pretty funny.
`fortune -o`
The world won't be fair until the LED museum and similar sites are offered -- No, given! -- .museum addresses.
But who decides exactly who of the 10,212 applicants for elvis.museum whould get the domain?
(And you'd still have pr0n: www.hotvictorianbabes.museum)
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - BF
My p.o.v., .kids isn't to protect the kids, it's to protect us from the people who want to protect the kids. Let them censor/patrol .kids all they want and leave the rest of the internet alone. Your kid found porn? If it came from a .kids domain, roast the f*cker. If it didn't, then it's the parents own fault for not knowing .kids is for kids, and everything else isn't.
Sure in hindsight, it was kind of obvious, but they were the first to do it.
Now people are used to it. Folks have never wanted to type http://www.fred.com:80/. Too much typing, with shifts and everything. They won't be able to type "fred" and go to www.fred.biz.
I'd like to propose a solution to the domain name confusion problem. I propose we reduce the DNS complexity by limiting the breadth and depth of the DNS. We can limit the number of top-level domains, and how deeply they can be divided. I also propose a numeric shorthand notation, to simplify host identification and entry.
We should fix the maximum number of top-level domains at 256, and identify each TLD with a number from 0 through 255. Further, up to 256 organizational domains may reside with each TLD, each identified by another decimal number. Finally, we provide for 256 departmental subdomains, and up to 256 individual hosts within each subdomain.
We now have a simple sequence of four decimal integers to uniquely represent any host on the Internet. We can write down the host identify as a text string by contactenating the four integers with a period (dot).
This means only four numbers need to be remembered to idenfity any host on the Internet. This is much less confusing than a plethora of domain names.
The one downside of this scheme is that it will require significant changes to existing Internet applications, such as web browsers, to accommodate this new "dotted quad" address mechanism.
Okay, I'm stupid, but which .biz registrar is the least evil? I admit, I haven't been keeping up with the whole new TLD thing, but it would be nice to register my company's name .biz, and show it to management...makes it look like I'm on the ball.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
How long will it take for these users to start to associate the new URL's with a type of group?
BTW how many of you are guilty of going to /. via Slashdot.com and not .org?
What about .NET?
.net for some time now and very few use it.
.org,.edu,.gov,.mil, and .com
I mean, it's been possible for anyone to get a
I only bring it up because everyone is mentioning
The Digital Sorceress
Comeo now, the .biz is by far the worst of them. I mean where is the seriousness of .biz I mean it sounds like slang. I personally in my travels on the web have never visited knowingly a .biz, .tv., .anything_except_.com_.net_.org_.gov.
website.
Recently for my website, I was lucky to find a 4 lettered .com domain name, an easy to remember and spell name. I am sure there could be many, many other lucky peeps out there who could find one also if they just used there heads.
That's just my opinion, but it seems as if many of you also share this opinion also.
By the way, I've got a great deal on:
http://ebuyers.cc
http://hunters.cc
http://sellitall.cc
And even one .com:
http://armedbear.com
Let me know! They just didn't work for me. But I'm sure your soooo much more intelligent than I! ;-)
I do everything the voices in my head tell me to...
Maybe now I'll be able to register a decent name. I don't really need it to be .com, I just want my little sites to have a short, easy to remember name. What they need to do now is make a lot more TLDs for various purposes.
The way I see it, the best part of .com is that people need not remember it. As we add punctuation to our URL, it gets harder to remember.
Most people consider "www." and ".com" to be native parts of an url. They even consider the "index.html" a native part of an url.
Anyone who opens their eyes to today's media has internalized the standard that there are TONS of websites out there that start with "www." and end with ".com/index.html" Because of that, they have very little difficulty generalizing the principle to new web sites. After all, memorizing one bit of information (the part after www and before the TLD) is much easier than remembering ".fm", ".tv", or ".info" No matter how easy the TLD is to remember. What makes life more difficult is that they must remember two bits of information for non-.com URLs: the fact that it's not a .com, and its true TLD. However, the most important part is that ".com" domains are easy to GUESS. People can hit a company's web-site by knowing only its name and their "general rules of website URLs."
Because of this, no new TLD scheme will help anyone except for the domain squatters. After all, businesses will now have to register ".com, .net, .org, .info, .museum, ..."
It all goes downhill from first post
True story:
.edu was, or why MIT would be one. Unfortunately, a lot of internet users, especially the recent ones, are just like this. If they want to go to a site, they'll type yadayada.com without thinking. They probably don't even realize that other domains exist; and this goes double for the new domains. It's no wonder no one wants these alternates; they might as well have a gobbledygook URL, since people will only find .biz sites with a search engine anyway.
During a meeting, one of our senior office admins comes in all PO'd, because she was asked for some info and couldn't find it. Apparently she was trying to get to MIT's website and couldn't find it. "I kept trying www.mit.com, but it says host not found!" (emphasis added, of course)
She had no clue what a
Why? Because that's how the internet has been marketted. It's going to take a long time for people to appreciate the advantages of further classifying URLs. My boss is still excited that his web site is available 24 hours a day.
I wonder about the same thing, who in their right mind would buy anything with 'As Seen On TV' sticker on it..
To me that is just the long version of 'crap' , every product 'As seen on TV' is trash, why on earth buy a product that you know will be cheap and shoddy? Is it an IQ test? If you buy things that you see on TV you must be stupid, especially if they have to remind you that you saw it on TV in the first place.
Starman97@Gmail.com (bring it on spammers)
It is a shame there was so much bureaucratic delay, along with "Internet bubble" arrogance. The result was that too few domains have been released, with a confused public. Even /.ers, most of whom are pretty Internet savvy, probably do not know the exact details of the TLD offerings.
There should have been dozens of TLDs available last year. The old dot com, dot org, and dot net names simply do not sound "right" for many web sites. These measly new offerings are hardly useful.
A quick look at aunic shows that Australia already has .info.au. Other interesting Australian second level domains are .asn.au (for associations), .id.au (for individuals), .conf.au (for conferences), and .telememo.au (for X.400 entities, whatever that means).
harshbutfair: you know it makes sense
www.harshbutfair.org
who's planning on grabbing all the not-com real estate he can, here.
Take a look at that bizdomains.htm file. (The password worked when I tried it a few weeks ago.)
Can you believe he left that on the net?
Anyone got some good ideas for squatters, especially dumb ones? Go to town.
-- I have monkeys in my pants.
But then again, what person would ever go to a .bus ? :-)
-- I have monkeys in my pants.
The thing that I don't understand is how existing companies can be expected to migrate to the new TLD's. When you've spent thousands of $$'s on creating an identity using .com, who's going to want to change it? Not many...
.biz equivalent, to stop others from having it. If I have a legitimate business at www.chair.com, but don;t want to shell out for chair.biz, what's stopping my competitor from buying it? All my brand name recognition is going to be helping the competition. Screw that! I hate being forced to do something I don't want. And don;t get me started on .museum...
One of the bigger problems as I see it is companies being forced to buy their
There was no real explanation why - I only have to assume that it was done to be trendy.
.elvis!
It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
The same thoughts I had when I heard about this BS a while ago- only better. I mean, I knew that something was wrong with the whole idea, I just could not put a finger on it.
It *is* better to put a cap on the alphanumerical combinations of characters that can precede a dotcom tld, and leave the rest to attrition. More profit for whomever - WAIT! NEWS FLASH - INTO MY EMAIL COMES:
Dear Valued Dotster Customer, We have some good news regarding applications for .BIZ domain names!
NeuLevel, the official registrar for .BIZ
domain names, has decided to extend its deadline
for registrars to submit applications for
processing and registration. NeuLevel made this
decision in response to requests from registrars
and in light of the tragic events that took place
last week.
As a result, you can continue to submit .BIZ
applications at Dotster until midnight EST on
September 21, 2001. .BIZ applications are just $5 for 1-10 applications;
$4.50 for 11-50 applications; $4 for 51-100
applications; and $3.50 for 100 or more applications.
If we successfully register the domain you apply for,
you'll automatically be charged $30 for a two-year
registration.
The business value of .BIZ is clear: it's the only
global domain designed to help you establish, enhance
and extend your Web presence. In short, .BIZ means
business!
Don't be left behind -- this deadline won't be
extended again. To submit .BIZ applications please
click here:
WTF????? This is SPAM!
Isn't there a law?????
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That just doubled my typing.
.museum got approved. It's worse than even the slang-tainted .biz, b/c it's so damn long. Why not .mus? And don't get me started on the uselessness of .aero.
I can't believe
ICANN is so useless.
-bZj
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Welcome to QUT - The university for the corporate world
Yeah, especially the ones with money. Anybody who'd buy something they saw on tv is dumb, right?
So have you seen the new McDonald's commercials?
...All I can say is that my life is pretty strange...
there's sure to be .l33t and .H4X0r
The other staff were a bit confused and annoyed about what appeared to be frivolous spending in an environment of funding cuts and education funding increasingly driven by what could be sold to overseas students (who have to pay quite a lot).
I'm not there any more, I crashed and burned on my postgraduate studies, stopped tutoring and went back to full time work.
the reason .com is the only game in town is because it has become as integral to the functioning of the internet from an end-user level as "http://". It would be as taxing for both new and experienced users to remember cocacolainc.com as it would be to remember cocacola.inc. To find out information about fords people go to Ford.com. It might as well not have the .com at the end at all, and be just Ford. Ford.info, however, has to be remembered with the ending. Even slashdot gets a huge percentage of users coming to slashdot.com. It will be a long time before people automatically go to xxx.museum to look for a museum piece, or xxx.biz to look for a business that isn't a .com.
There are only so many combinations of letters in the alphabet. [company_name][qualifier].com is just as easy to remember as [company_name].[qualifier] but is a whole lot more flexible.
The ______ Agenda
is this one: http://www.command.com
And poke her, with the soft cushions!!!
I'm stuck in 2nd Year IT. From what I heard it was entirely a marketing thing. John Hynd was pissed++ :-)
But they don't. Most of the language is oriented to give the name to the trademark holder, with some consideration of wether the respondant is using the domain name or registered it in bad faith. It doesn't matter if you register a .info, and put up a few simple pages with some information about a company... if they have a trademark on the name, the rules (and grim reality of the dispute process) is exactly the same as if it were a .com, .biz, or whatever. There's no consideration written into the dispute policy for wether the respondant chose the correct TLD for their content (assuming they're not just squatting).
Likewise, there was all sorts of talk about registeration in various new TLDs requiring that you show that you really belong in that TLD. Well, it looks like it's all turned into a simple matter of paying money to the registars (the more you pay, the better the chance of being picked to receive the desired name, regardless of wether it may be appropriate for you to host a site within that TLD).
PJRC: Electronic Projects, 8051 Microcontroller Tools
I've changed my .sig line on mail proggy to my hamelin.edmonds.wa.us domain to show my support for our (US) nation durring these times. I'd suggest that those of you with nameservers and a bit of cash (about the same as netsol) to get your own .us domain. It's great to put on your snail box and makes the postal carrier really wonder.
.us stuff.. try starting at beltane.com.
Not an ad, but it's hard to find where to reg
-- I have a private email server in my basement.
Actually it should be completely reversed into com.yahoo.www. Www is the name of a server at Yahoo, which is part of the com TLD. Writing it www.com.yahoo is as bad as the American MM/DD/YY date format (YYYY-MM-DD, the correct way [ISO8601], is in order largest-to-smallest).
Com.yahoo.www would then be in the same order as the directory structure (/dir/subdir/.../file.html); most general to most specific. Right now, hostnames are inverted relative to the directory tree.
Liberty in your lifetime
While it is true that there are directories and search engines able to access and orgainaise all this information there is no set stardard to how this information is layed out. If you don't think that this is a problem then go on goggle and type is less then three words and see how much rubbish that you get hits to.
Today a paradox exists that you have to know what your looking for before you can find it. If TLD's meant somthing then all you would have to do would list all site's with the .xxx extension and go nut's.
If the internet is to become a usefull medium for normal people then it should be possible to guess the content of a site based on the TLD's. .com .org etc work because of this but .biz dosent becasue of this reasion.
I recently registered a .com domain where we conciously considered the .com as meaning community. .org would have been too constrained as the group was not in any way organised. .net could have been used... but.
.com.
.com is taken as THE tld, it does not have to mean commercial. I am sure there is a lot of scope for other meanings to
Richard
How about .cum?
-- I am. Therefore, I think!
That's "index.htm", if we're really talking about how the average person views the web, you know :)
Your right to not believe: Americans United for Separation of Church and
In addition to the other reasons, I don't think customers will take seriously a company which uses a .biz address. The fact that ICANN chose such a slang term for the top-level domain shows they have no concept of the fact that in business, image is crucial. No one will buy from you if they don't take you seriously.
.biz would be something somewhat more mature, such as .inc, .ltd, .llc, .corp, or something along those lines.
Perhaps a better choice instead of
In case of fire, do not use elevator. Use water!
In a similar vein, when a company registers theirname.biz alongside theirname.com, theirname.net, theirname.org, theirname.tv, etc. ad infinitum (or perhaps ad nauseum), they have essentially reduced the number of TLDs to one. What was intended to be a larger namespace becomes a simple alternate spelling of the .com-space. Nothing is gained, other than lining the pockets of the registrars.
<aside> .net and .org versions of my .com domain name, even though both were already taken and both were registered by NetSol!
Marketers don't get it right very often, either. NetSol recently spammed me with a pitch to buy the
</aside>
Mail? Put "slashdot" in the subject to pass the spam filters.
Is anyone else thinking of the Greybook protocol?
seabrookpd.gov.us or seabrook.gov will do
.au, unlike those specific European nations.
lausdk12.edu.us or lausdk12.edu will do.
I like those European countries where you don't even need a com, net, or org, etc TLD, just the country, so someone in Italy has 'fuck.it'.
Here in Oz you can pay more & have 'com', 'net', 'org', 'gov' or 'edu', etc, without the '.au' after it, or pay less & have '.au' after it (well that how it seems to work much of the time).
But there must be a TLD before
There's some old ecentric coder too, who was the 1st to bring TLDs to Australia & ran the whole thing till the govt & corporates took over. Back in those days he registed some strange TLDs like dropbear.au, etc. The govt/corporate world don'r like these strange TLDs of his floating about, so they are trying to have them cancelled.
Precisely. This is all a massive scam. Here's the loophole they are exploiting: in order for a company to retain rights over its trademark, it must protect that trademark against infringement. If, say, Sun Micro failed to stop someone from registering sun.biz, that would be seen as failure to protect the mark. End result? Verisign (or whoever) ends up collecting their money again.
Once they cash out .biz, they'll start it all over again with .e-biz, .corp, .tech, and .fck-me-in-the-goatass.
Of course, it will eventually be stopped, since our government is all about protecting corporations. They won't stand for this for too long.
Except that the order of hostname.domainname.tld was set before the www. It was originally set that way for email.
Snail mail is addressed first to the recipent, then to the address, then to the city, state, and country.
Email addresses follow the same pattern, user@server.domain.tld, and they wouldn't make as much sense the other way around.
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The internet is the greatest source of biased information in the history of mankind.
I though that is would be interesting to try and register for the 'show.biz' domain. I really don't expect to get it; I do expect that there'll be a big fuss about it.
.BIZ domain name.
.BIZ Registry. In other words, one or more intellectual
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Lo and behold, I received this in my email:
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show.biz 767174
According to our records you have applied for the above listed
The purpose of this E-mail is to formally notify you that the domain name for
which you applied matches one or more Intellectual Property (IP) Claims that
were received by the
property owners believe that they have intellectual property rights in the
domain name for which you have applied. You should be aware that if you choose
to continue the application process, your domain name registration may be
challenged under several Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
(ICANN)-approved dispute resolution mechanisms, including the Start-up Trademark
Opposition Policy (STOP) http://www.neulevel.BIZ/countdown/stop.html and the
Uniform Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP) http://www.icann.org/udrp/udrp.htm.
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YOUR REGISTRATION REQUEST. NOTE THAT PROCEEDING WITH YOUR REGISTRATION REQUEST
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Listed below is the following IP Claim information:
a. The Intellectual Property Claimantâ(TM)s contact details;
b. Exact trademark or service mark (âoetrademarkâ) in which the IP Claimant is
basing its claim. NOTE: If the Exact Trademark contains any
non-alphanumeric characters, other than a hyphen, the exact trademark may be
displayed below with the non-alphanumeric characters removed. For example, if
the exact trademark is NeuLevel, Inc., then it is possible that only
âoeneulevelincâ (without the âoecommaâ, âoespaceâ or âoeperiodâ) will be
displayed;
c. The
d. A description of the goods and/or services alleged to be used in connection
with the trademark;
e. The date in which the trademark or service mark was either first used in
connection with the associated goods and/or services or alternatively in which
an âoeintent to useâ trademark application was filed;
f. The country where the goods and/or services were alleged to have been first
used;
g. Whether the trademark is âoeRegisteredâ or has been âoeApplied Forâ in
any national trademark office or whether the IP Clamant is alleging IP rights to
the trademark based on common law or usage rights;
h. If the trademark has either been âoeApplied Forâ or âoeRegisteredâ, the
date in which the application was filed or the date the registration was issued;
i. If the trademark has either been âoeApplied Forâ or âoeRegisteredâ, or if
the IP Claimant voluntarily provided such information, the International Class
in which the goods and/or services are alleged to be used.
Note: NeuLevel, Inc., the Registry Operator for
information directly from the IP Claimant(s) through its IP Claim Service or
through an ICANN-Accredited Registrar. Such information is provided to you by
NeuLevel for information purposes only, that is, to assist you in deciding
whether or not to proceed with the
NeuLevel is providing this information âoeAS ISâ and has not validated or
verified any of the data below. Therefore, it cannot guarantee its accuracy or
completeness. After reviewing the information below, you may wish to consult
with your intellectual property attorney or advisor on whether or not to proceed
with the registration process.
The following are the details of each IP Claim for show.biz.
1a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
Adeptech Systems, Inc.
1420 Spring Hill Road, Suite 600
McLean
VA
22102
1b. Trademark or Service Mark: show
1c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 19
1d. Description of Goods and/or Services: Communication Services
1e. Alleged Date of First Use: 1955-01-01 00:00:00.
1f. Country of First Use: USA.
1g. Trademark Status: Common Law
1h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": Not Applicable
1i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Mr Rama Kant
Adeptech Systems, Inc.
1420 Spring Hill Road, Suite 600
McLean, VA 22102
USA
703.404.3775
703.421.8179
kant@adeptech.com
2a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
Request Music
1505 9th street
suite 201
Santa Monica
CA
90401
2b. Trademark or Service Mark: show
2c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 862
2d. Description of Goods and/or Services: web site to direct consumers to a
variety of entertainment services
2e. Alleged Date of First Use: 2001-05-01 00:00:00.
2f. Country of First Use: Intentionally left blank by Claimant.
2g. Trademark Status: Common Law
2h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": Not Applicable
2i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Mr William Sager
ceo
Request Music
1505 9th street
Suite 201
Santa Monica, CA 90401
USA
310-200-4700
wls@home.com
3a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
Central Westchester Neuromuscular Care
141 South Central Park Avenue
Suite 205
Hartsdale
New York
10530
3b. Trademark or Service Mark: show
3c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 1866
3d. Description of Goods and/or Services:
3e. Alleged Date of First Use: 2001-05-22 00:00:00.
3f. Country of First Use: Intentionally left blank by Claimant.
3g. Trademark Status: Common Law
3h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": Not Applicable
3i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Dr Joseph Carcione
Central Westchester Neuromuscular Care
141 South Central Park Avenue
Suite 205
Hartsdale, New York 10530
USA
914-948-3443
914-948-3444
cwnc@aol.com
4a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
Criterion Holdings Pty Ltd
34 St Quentin Avenue
Claremont
Perth
Western Australia
6010
4b. Trademark or Service Mark: show
4c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 2717
4d. Description of Goods and/or Services:
4e. Alleged Date of First Use: 2001-05-22 00:00:00.
4f. Country of First Use: AUS.
4g. Trademark Status: Common Law
4h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": Not Applicable
4i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Mr Barry Jones
Director
Criterion Holdings Pty Ltd
34 St Quentin Avenue
Claremont
Perth, Western Australia 6010
AUS
61 8 9385 3210
61 8 9385 3995
barry@criterion.com.au
jonesfam2@yahoo.com
5a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
Frontier Systems Ltd
8-10 Tavistock Street
London
WC2E 7PP
5b. Trademark or Service Mark: show
5c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 2978
5d. Description of Goods and/or Services: West End(London) based ticket agency
for all shows throughout the UK.
5e. Alleged Date of First Use: 1998-04-14 00:00:00.
5f. Country of First Use: GBR.
5g. Trademark Status: Common Law
5h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": Not Applicable
5i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Mr James Lynch
Frontier Systems Ltd
8-10 Tavistock Street
London, WC2E 7PP
GBR
44 20 7420 4236
44 20 7420 4260
jim@fsys.co.uk
6a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
IHD
25 Templar Road
Manalapan
New Jersey
07726
6b. Trademark or Service Mark: show
6c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 10502
6d. Description of Goods and/or Services: provide very hard to acquire theater
tickets to sold out venue shows on New York City's Broadway, off broadway and
off-off-broadway stages to manhattan elites on a 7 day to 7 hour prior notice.
6e. Alleged Date of First Use: 1999-05-01 00:00:00.
6f. Country of First Use: USA.
6g. Trademark Status: APPLIED
6h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": 1999-05-01 00:00:00
6i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Mr Amjed Mustafa
IHD of New Jersey
25 Templar Road
Manalapan, New Jersey 07726
USA
732 610 6036
ihdihd@aol.com
7a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
Tom Pipinou
25909 Clausen Ct
Hayward
CA
94541
7b. Trademark or Service Mark: Show
7c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 14330
7d. Description of Goods and/or Services: Information, content and sales
pertaining to the entertainment industry.
7e. Alleged Date of First Use: 2001-01-01 00:00:00.
7f. Country of First Use: CTM.
7g. Trademark Status: COMMON
7h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": 2001-01-01 00:00:00
7i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Mr Thomas Pipinou
Tom Pipinou
25909 Clausen Ct
Hayward, CA 94541
USA
510-881-0879
tommo@pacbell.net
8a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
mnemonicrom
789 sutherland ave
kelowna
bc
v1y-5x4
8b. Trademark or Service Mark: show
8c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 14409
8d. Description of Goods and/or Services: ebooks,resumes,show stuff
8e. Alleged Date of First Use: 2000-01-01 00:00:00.
8f. Country of First Use: CAN.
8g. Trademark Status: COMMON
8h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": 2000-01-01 00:00:00
8i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Mr philip john jatzek
president
mnemonicrom
789 sutherland ave
kelowna, bc v1y-5z4
CAN
1-250-717-5475
1-250-717-5475
pjatzek@telus.net
9a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
Clyde Wilson, Jr.
27 S. Orange Ave.
Sarasota
FL
34236
9b. Trademark or Service Mark: show
9c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 25138
9d. Description of Goods and/or Services: Website provides information in the
field of entertainment, including movie showtime listings, entertainment
industry news and movie reviews; and website sells movies, movie posters and
like items.
9e. Alleged Date of First Use: 2001-06-29 00:00:00.
9f. Country of First Use: USA.
9g. Trademark Status: APPLIED
9h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": 2000-08-14 00:00:00
9i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Mr Geoffrey Wilson
Geoffrey Wilson
602 S. Main St., Suite C
Gainesville, FL 32601
USA
352-214-3779
352-374-6965
gwilson@silverscape.net
10a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
EGGER
Tiergartenstrasse 126
6020 Innsbruck
10b. Trademark or Service Mark: show
10c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 25823
10d. Description of Goods and/or Services:
10e. Alleged Date of First Use: 1999-02-01 00:00:00.
10f. Country of First Use: AUT.
10g. Trademark Status: REGISTERED
10h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": 2001-07-01 00:00:00
10i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Mr gerhard egger
egger gerhard
tiergartenstrasse 126
innsbruck, innsbruck 6020
AUT
+43 (0)664 2204469
+43 (0)512 567256
onair@aon.at
gerhard.egger@gmx.at
11a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
"Aubenhaus Productions, Inc"
37 Garden Villa
Pinehurst
North Carolina
28374
11b. Trademark or Service Mark: NotProvidedInBulk
11c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 31525
11d. Description of Goods and/or Services:
11e. Alleged Date of First Use: 2001-06-17 00:00:00.
11f. Country of First Use: USA.
11g. Trademark Status: APPLIED
11h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": 2001-06-17 00:00:00
11i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Timothy Norris
"Aubenhaus Productions, Inc"
37 Garden Villa
Pinehurst, North Carolina 28374
USA
910-315-4170
tjnorris@nc.rr.com
12a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
"Sarantech, inc."
301 Franklin Rd
West Palm Beach
Florida
33405
12b. Trademark or Service Mark: NotProvidedInBulk
12c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 31585
12d. Description of Goods and/or Services:
12e. Alleged Date of First Use: 2001-01-01 00:00:00.
12f. Country of First Use: USA.
12g. Trademark Status: COMMON
12h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For":
12i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Peter Sarantidis
"Sarantech, inc."
301 Franklin Rd
West Palm Beach, Florida 33405
USA
561-309-7727
buzznbee@citywalk.net
13a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
show
111 mt horeb rd
warren
new jersey
7059
13b. Trademark or Service Mark: NotProvidedInBulk
13c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 31754
13d. Description of Goods and/or Services: business manager
13e. Alleged Date of First Use: 2001-06-18 00:00:00.
13f. Country of First Use: USA.
13g. Trademark Status: APPLIED
13h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": 2001-01-01 00:00:00
13i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
james goodling
show
111 mt horeb rd
warren, new jersey 7059
USA
7323560442
bgood1229@aol.com
14a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
Tinytrack
479 Independence Court
Sharon
PA
16146
14b. Trademark or Service Mark: show
14c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 34771
14d. Description of Goods and/or Services:
14e. Alleged Date of First Use: 1970-12-01 00:00:00.
14f. Country of First Use: USA.
14g. Trademark Status: COMMON
14h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": 1970-12-01 00:00:00
14i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
John Nichols
John Nichols
479 Independence Court
Sharon, PA 16146
USA
(724) 346-2832
tinytrack@worldnet.att.net
tinytrack@worldnet.att.net
15a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
"premiere studio rentals, inc."
1621 First Street
San Fernando
Ca
91340
15b. Trademark or Service Mark: NotProvidedInBulk
15c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 48253
15d. Description of Goods and/or Services: Motion Picture Studio Rentals.
15e. Alleged Date of First Use: 1992-01-01 00:00:00.
15f. Country of First Use: USA.
15g. Trademark Status: COMMON
15h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For":
15i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Michael Walsh
"premiere studio rentals, inc"
1621 First Street
San Fernando, Ca 91340
USA
818-365-5656
818-365-4595
venergroup@aol.com
16a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
Arche Nova Marvin Entholt Filmproduktion
Hedwigstr. 9
Munich
Bavaria
80636
16b. Trademark or Service Mark: show
16c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 48491
16d. Description of Goods and/or Services: develeopment of tv shows
organisation of show events
directing of stage shows
16e. Alleged Date of First Use: 1995-01-01 00:00:00.
16f. Country of First Use: DEU.
16g. Trademark Status: COMMON
16h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": 1995-01-01 00:00:00
16i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Mr Marvin Entholt
Arche Nova Marvin Entholt Filmproduktion
Hedwigstr. 9
Munich, Bavaria 80636
DEU
0049891294429
0049801294399
entholt@aol.com
17a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
CON4 GmbH
Kinkelstrasse 34
Zurich
8006
17b. Trademark or Service Mark: NotProvidedInBulk
17c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 62632
17d. Description of Goods and/or Services: class 38 telecommunications
17e. Alleged Date of First Use: 2001-06-04 00:00:00.
17f. Country of First Use: CHE.
17g. Trademark Status: APPLIED
17h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": 2001-06-04 00:00:00
17i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Felix Thommen
CON4 GmbH
Kinkelstrasse 34
Zurich, 8006
CHE
+41 1 350 00 21
+41 1 350 00 21
felix@thommen.com
18a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
"Arthur F. Leritz, M.D.,P.S."
1408 13th Street
Milford
IA
51351
18b. Trademark or Service Mark: NotProvidedInBulk
18c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 62728
18d. Description of Goods and/or Services: Acting school.
18e. Alleged Date of First Use: 2001-01-01 00:00:00.
18f. Country of First Use: USA.
18g. Trademark Status: APPLIED
18h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For": 2001-01-01 00:00:00
18i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Arthur Leritz
"Arthur F. Leritz, M.D.,P.S."
1408 13th Street
Milford, IA 51351
USA
712-338-9149
manta8@milfordcable.net
19a. Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
Bonver Videodata AB
Vardshusvagen
Lidingo
181 85
19b. Trademark or Service Mark: NotProvidedInBulk
19c. IP Claim String and Identification Number: show.biz 85399
19d. Description of Goods and/or Services: "Sales and rent of Video, Music and
multimedia. Thirdpart logistics Video / DVD"
19e. Alleged Date of First Use: 2001-01-11 00:00:00.
19f. Country of First Use: SWE.
19g. Trademark Status: COMMON
19h. Date "Registered" or "Applied For":
19i. International Class: Not Applicable
For more information on this intellectual property claim, please contact:
Mr Peter Sonnerhed
Bonver Videodata AB
Vardshusvagen
Lidingo,
SWE
+46 8 766 78 44
+46 8 766 79 81
peter.sonnerhed@bonver.com
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Now that is a very good point. I also have a couple of very good domain names which I bought for A Great Idea(tm) during the Internet boom which I then never got around to doing. I would sell mine on for a very modest sum if anyone approached me. I bet there are thousands of us in the same boat. Those remaining cybersquatters must know that after the .com crash their dreams of making squillions from their domain names are long gone, and are probably prepared to be reasonable. I also think that in a year we will see a Renaissance of the .com, with an open market asking knock-down prices.
I think it people really were desperate for new TLDs then services such as ALTERNIC would be more popular. If the Linux browsers Mozilla and Konqueror were configured by default to also check an alternate nameserver then the Linux community could have fun by inventing their own TLDs which could then be accessed by everyone else in the community (http://news.linux/ anyone?)
Phillip.
Property for sale in Nice, France
i think all the porn sites should be forced to use .xxx so you know what crap you are getting yourself into when clicking on certain links...and if some porn site uses a .com, .net, etc. to link to a .xxx....then off with their heads!(or bandwidth in this case :>)
"If you ever see me getting beat by the police...put down the camara and come help me" -Bobcat Goldwath
you would need a enourmous and possibly slow DNS server to dig through all the possible entries to finally route you to the correct IP...unless the DNS server had some sort of indexing going on...which would possibly increase the efficiency somewhat...however still...too many options...
"If you ever see me getting beat by the police...put down the camara and come help me" -Bobcat Goldwath
I sometimes get calls to assist people unexperienced with the internet, mostly elderly. I find one of their common mistakes, that adding new TLDs will only exacerbate, is that they want to add .com to whatever address you give them. So say they're told to go to earthlink.net, they go to earthlink.net.com because they think all addresses should end with .com. As the .org and and .net names have caught on and are being advertised more they are learning those are ok to use, but keep adding TLDs and a lot of people will be confused.
Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do.
I couldn't believe it when the Faculty of Aerospace Engineering set up this site, it's ridiculous IMO since all the other faculties of my university use something that ends in tudelft.nl .
.fed
.47
.klingon
.rom (.romulan?)
Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
to own mypla.net . Then I could tell people this was my planet and they should leave as soon as possible.
is actually the address of the army.
.mil has infomation on bases, press releases, info for current soldiers...
www.goarmy.com is essentially the recruitment address - it's where they want you to go if you're interested in joining.
Looking for freelance Actionscript (Flash/Flex) or ColdFusion work and/or freelance developers. Email me, put Slashdot
Why not come up with a new naming convention for web purposes that sits on top of the current DNS archictecture.
For example I could go to my browser and type #MICROSOFT or something and it would then resolve to host1888333.microsoft.com or even multiple servers that can be anything available to those providing web services.
This way the competition for domain names, driven by the web, would cease.
Why not add .us to then end of all the .com and .net and etc , then setup nameservers so that when queryed with ibm.com it looks at ibm.com.?? where ?? is the local country
.com with all the other countrys using their own registerys
this would mean that the pressure would be removed from
The internet is an International Network and the domain names should reflect this
This scheme would mean that putting ibm.com or ibm.co in a browser would go to the local ibm site , and putting ibm.com.us would goto the us page - internatinal companys can afford registering in every country of operation anyway
does anyone here have any reasion that this plan wouldn't work ?
Type unto others as you would have them type unto you.
The Domain Name Registry for
Pitcairn Island!
All the creatures will die, And all the things will be broken. That's the law of samurai. (Jubai, 1605)
In China, addresses on letters have the City, then street, building, and the person's name comes last (with the person's name being family name then given name, of course). (And I suppose if you wanted to tell the recipient which eye to use when reading the letter, that info would come last.)
I think thats what I meant. Its bloody out of order. Middle-endian is a good term for that, LOL. YYYY-MM-DD is the best format (little-endian, right?), since that also flows like the numbers within (YYYY itself is largest-to-smallest: millennium, century, decade, year).
Liberty in your lifetime