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Stallman, Torvalds, Sakamura win Takeda Prize

hal_mit writes: "Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds, and Ken Sakamura have been jointly awarded the first annual Takeda Foundation Prize, for "The origination and the advancement of open development models for system software - open architecture, free software and open source software". This is a major new recognition of the social value of free software and open source."

184 comments

  1. Richard will be pleased by sllort · · Score: 5, Funny

    RMS should be pretty happy about this. Note that they listed him above Linus. That's Stallman/Torvalds.

    1. Re:Richard will be pleased by psaltes · · Score: 1

      I quote from the web page:
      "(Awardees are listed in alphabetical order.)"

      not in the /. list though.

    2. Re:Richard will be pleased by jamoke · · Score: 1

      Alphabetical order

    3. Re:Richard will be pleased by Dwonis · · Score: 2

      It's listed alphabetically by last name.

  2. Congratulations! by mr_don't · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Yay! Computer and information systems should be free and open! Free IPX congratulates all the winners!

  3. Oh man... by btlzu2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Guess who's going to reject it because it's not called the GNU/Takeda Foundation prize!

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    Zed's dead baby. Zed's dead.
    1. Re:Oh man... by sydb · · Score: 5, Funny

      And guess who's going to say "I really don't care about this award, I just want to code..."

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    2. Re:Oh man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's very unfair. The Takeda Foundation makes use of GNU tools, does it not? Credit should be given where credit is due, and that means calling it the GNU/Takeda Foundation.

  4. What the quick blurb above doesn't say by Fun+In+The+Sun · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is that the Takeda award is granted in 3 different areas.


    Sakamura, Stallma, and Torvalds were granted the award in the "Social/Economic Well-Being" category. This means that an international group has recognized that Linux and GNU pose great advantages over the current system of closed/secret source.


    Hopefully this recognition, and the 100 million yen prize will encourage further efforts to educate the masses.


    Anyone know how much 100 million yen is in american dollars?

    1. Re:What the quick blurb above doesn't say by jx100 · · Score: 1

      I think it's about 830k USD

    2. Re:What the quick blurb above doesn't say by ajuda · · Score: 2, Informative

      According to the universal currency converter (xe.com/ucc), 100 million yen is $824,744.81 US. Not bad at all.

    3. Re:What the quick blurb above doesn't say by L-Train8 · · Score: 3

      The money (aprox $825,000.00 US) is split three ways, so RMS, Linus and Mr. Sakamura will each be getting about $275,000.00 US.

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    4. Re:What the quick blurb above doesn't say by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 2
      The money (aprox $825,000.00 US) is split three ways, so RMS, Linus and Mr. Sakamura will each be getting about $275,000.00 US.

      Nope; they'll each be getting about $165,000. Uncle Sam will be taking $110,000. Of course, RMS lives in Taxachusetts, so he'll be getting even less. I'm not sure what California's taxes are like, so I dunno how Torvalds will be affected. Who th heck is Sakamura? I'm afraid I'm drawing a blank. Possibly my brain has simply skipped a groove.

    5. Re:What the quick blurb above doesn't say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in related news, Eric Raymond wrote an essay on what it's to wake up one day and find out you're the director of a failed company approaching bankrupcty faster than American Airlines flight 11 approached the WTC.

      Only, with LNUX, no one will care.

    6. Re:What the quick blurb above doesn't say by Djaak · · Score: 1

      yen-dollar updated exchange rate can be found here.
      The true hacker does the math himself :)

  5. Excellant by SirSlud · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is nice that there are concessions being made at this scale (such as these awards) that the open-source ideology definately has a place in a free-market world. Even nicer is that these awards do not seem to be tied to a singular (or multiple) corperate entity, unlike some other .com love-in awards and groups (like the webbies?)

    I'm more interested in seeing who will be getting these awards 5 years from now, once all the really obvious open-source prophets, kings and queens have gotten their past-due.

    --
    "Old man yells at systemd"
  6. In other news by trilucid · · Score: 3, Funny


    Craig Mundie wins the CapitalGuy award for the most confusing contributions to the world of closed-source software. Mr. Mundie has generously made a grant to the Microsoft Foundation For Youth-Reeduction, his way of giving back to the loyal community that has honored him thusly.

    Marc Andreesen was on the list of nominees this year, but seems to have mysteriously vanished to the Isle of AOL (believed to be located somewhere in the South Media Sea).

    (disclaimer: it's supposed to be funny. please, no rotten eggs this time ;-] )

    1. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for proving you're an actual coward. True ACs like me don't see sigs at all. Only people who are logged in and hit the "post anonymously" box seem to be able to see them.

      Wank wank!

    2. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As opposed to a socialist award for a socialist ideal? We're supposed to cheer in this job market for a guy who openly hates money and capitalism?

  7. Open Source Award by MacGabhain · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would like to introduce the MacGabhain Open Source Award. You may award it to anyone else you like, so long as you don't restrict them from awarding it to others. You may modify the award in any way you like, so long as that award may also be awarded by anyone else to anyone else. You must include the following statement in any issuance of this award:

    This award is or includes the MacGabhain Open Source Award. You may grant this award, either in its current form or in any modified form, to anyone provided you allow them to grant this award to anyone else and you include this statement in any granting of the award.

    1. Re:Open Source Award by sphealey · · Score: 2

      That's pretty good. The thing to do would be to set it up on a web site, perhaps with the condition that to grant the award you must explain to whom you are granting it and why. You would need to start out by granting it to at least 2 people. Then publish the succeeding grants and see what happens!

      sPh

  8. Ken who? by jeffy124 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Who is Ken Sakamura?? I probably know who he is, just never put a name with his actions. Did he come up with some major advancement in open-source?

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    1. Re:Ken who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reading the article might help.

    2. Re:Ken who? by hoggoth · · Score: 4, Informative

      From the first page on the article linked above:

      Ken Sakamura is honored for developing and promoting the TRON open architecture, a real-time operating system specification for embedded systems.

      Now aren't you embarrassed?

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    3. Re:Ken who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you just read the article you should know that it was Sakamura who developed the first free UNIX clone, Sakamurix.
      Unfortunately for him, all his code was ripped off by companies that sell piss poor performing, overprized hardware like HP and Sun. SGI roolz!
      Sincerely, Mike Bouma

    4. Re:Ken who? by jeffy124 · · Score: 1

      i failed to mention one major thing -- im at work (military) behind firewalls blocking certain international domains. the .jp was a red flag to the firewall to deny me access :(

      so yes, i am sorta embarrased.

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      The One Rule Of Chess You'll Ever Need: Don't play someone who carries a kit in their bookbag.
    5. Re:Ken who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      perhaps the google chache would help?

    6. Re:Ken who? by sharkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      developing and promoting the TRON open architecture

      Neat! Does this mean I'll finally be able to get a lightcycle and one of those ass-kicking frisbees? Or is TRON not that far along? (I'd also like a Recognizer, BTW)

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    7. Re:Ken who? by Nicolas+MONNET · · Score: 1

      Just out of curiosity, what's the reasoning for blocking .jp site? Doesn't make any sense.

    8. Re:Ken who? by jeffy124 · · Score: 2

      they block every international site that's not english speaking. For example, .au .ca and .uk are permitted, but anything else - nope.

      it is the military afterall, keep in mind not everything makes sense.

      someone (an ac) posted the google cache link, so at least i'll be able to use that if int'l sites crop up.

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      The One Rule Of Chess You'll Ever Need: Don't play someone who carries a kit in their bookbag.
    9. Re:Ken who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what a load of crap. I think they just wanted to make sure a japanese guy won so they scrounged up this useless wanker...

  9. Re:NOPE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and by Linux I mean Linus.

  10. And the swag is... by sphealey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    823,000 USD at today's interbank rate, per Oanda.com. Not too shabby.

    Was recently reading a biography of Enrico Fermi. The cash he received from the Nobel prize, plus the jewlery his wife was able to take with her to Sweden for the prize ceremony, allowed them to escape Italy to the US (his wife was Jewish).

    sPh

    1. Re:And the swag is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're suggesting Linus and RMS should move out of the US because of the SSCA (sic)? Ain't gonna happen. They'll probably spend the money buying Britney Spears albums from the RIAA

    2. Re:And the swag is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he was just commenting about what another famous prize-winner did with his money.

    3. Re:And the swag is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now, of course, most people will want to escape the U.S. to Italy.

      I made it out safely. I'm in New Zealand.

  11. Linus was heard to say... by bflong · · Score: 2, Funny

    GNU/Takeda? I couldn't care less.... :-)

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  12. One day soon... by Ace905 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    One day, in the not so far future, I think the ECA will be given this prestigious prize... and everyone will say, "I knew they were gonna get that darned prize all along... if only I had done more to support them in the beginning"...

    Or atleast... that's what people who don't know how to support the ECA would say, but luckily you can support the ECA just by spreading word of the Eggplant in all it's forms and variations.... but how do you do that? easy... click Eggplants!.

    Eggplants!

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    Ace
  13. entertainment idea for them by Magumbo · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    At the Takeda Award ceremony, they should hire some cheesy R&B/rap burnouts and get them to sing:

    Take da award. (baaaaybeee)
    Yeah, take da prize. (Oooh oooooh)

    1. Re:entertainment idea for them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I only had moderator points. +1 funny

  14. Hmmm... by ajuda · · Score: 2, Funny

    They chose the three biggest names in open source. Let's see, Alan Cox will win next year, then who is left? They really should have paced themselves, they ran out of the big names far too quickly!

    1. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And who is this Linus Tornballs anyway? With one guy names Sack-amura and one guy with torn balls, I think I'll stay away from this award...

    2. Re:Hmmm... by L-Train8 · · Score: 2

      This award is not for excellent work in open source software. It is for "research achievements that began with a concern for human needs, and which have made an outstanding contribution to the industrial technologies intended to satisfy those needs."

      There are 3 catagories: social/economic, individual/humanity, and world/environmental.

      Research and engineering that produces benefits in each of these three catagories are acknowledged with the prize. This year, open source software got the nod for research that had social/economic benefit.

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    3. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Eric Raymond, obviously.

      He's the maintainer of a perl script related to email or something.

      And he plays a mean flute.

      Out of money, though. Sacrificial goats are expensive and he overextended his credit limit back when he thought he was rich.

      The poor damn fool.

    4. Re:Hmmm... by Arandir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wall, Van Rossum, McKusick, de Icaza, de Raadt, Dawes, Raymond, Perens, yada, yada, yada ad infinitum.

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      A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
    5. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ted da Ratt will never win anything.

      If he did, he'd have to fork the prize.

  15. I can hear the teeth gnashing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    over at (in)adequacy.org. They're going to go ballistic that somebody with big money thinks that they're full of shit slamming linux, et al.

    Of course, they'll probably just write the whole thing off as "those stupid geeks" and stick their heads firmly back up their asses....

  16. Oh right... by JasonAsbahr · · Score: 1

    "GNU is the forerunner of the recent open source movement."

    While most of us would probably agree with that statement, FSF would prefer the use of the term "Free Software Movement".

    GNOS: GNOS's Not Open Source ;-)

    Jason

  17. TRON Project by Isamu+Noguchi · · Score: 1

    From their literature it seems that Sakamura's project is influential in Japan, but it seems to be open only in the sense of having an open API. Does anyone know if their source is available?

    1. Re:TRON Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      English pages about the project are at http://tron.um.u-tokyo.ac.jp/TRON/ . The specs are available to anyone. Apparently the only software available are ports of GNU tools.
      TRON is pretty industry-oriented and so not very exciting to the average slashdot reader.

      Until they release TRON skins, that is.

    2. Re:TRON Project by sakichan · · Score: 1

      Sakamura Lab. had been distributing ItIs, a open-source implementation of ITRON. The maintainer (and the main author) of ItIs, who was an assistant of Sakamura Lab, became an Associate Professor of Toyohashi Univ. of Technology, so the distribution site of ItIs was also moved to the new site. ItIs was based on the older spec of ITRON, so the another free ITRON implementaion based on the newest spec, TOPPERS/JSP is released and maintained well.

      Notes: Some links above include Japanese only pages.

  18. Seriously. by Renraku · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Bill Gates should win an award for making a good number of PCs Windows based, as without Windows, us tech support guys would have to support 24125812 different operating systems and Mac's would reign supreme.

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    1. Re:Seriously. by Spankophile · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      mod this up. If nothing else, Gates should be commended for bringing computers to the masses. Like it or lump it.

    2. Re:Seriously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, its better that most winhoze tech support guys only have to support one OS badly rather than a whole bunch badly, yup, makes sense.

    3. Re:Seriously. by Renraku · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Flamebait? I'm not saying Windows is the best OS, or that Microsoft's business practices are totally legal, but think of a world with many OSes for the home user. Sure, there are the *nix OSes, but imagine more. Imagine if there were say, 10 different OS classes besides Mac and *nix. The Internet would be a much different place..maybe not in a good way. Even though Windows is forced down our throats, it gives us a familiar base on which to plan/develop.

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    4. Re:Seriously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, it also allows PHBs and useless tech support drones to think they know it all.

    5. Re:Seriously. by underpaidISPtech · · Score: 2, Interesting
      MS is shady at best. However, most people on this board probably would be without jobs had it not been for W95. That really brought the PC to the home consumer, and the Internet to the masses. No Linux distro to date could do the same even now. (That's not a flame or a troll, it's my opinion. It belongs here because we are discussing technology not religion).

      Now as for tech support, some AC below cried about tech guys giving bad support. That's not bad support. That's survival. After dealing with customers long enough, the problems are all the same, and the solution invariably simplifies. I used to bend over backwards and set up every goddamn dial-up/internet/email thing to make their point and click online experience easier, less intimidating and convenient. No more. I burnt out. Even windows is too hard for people to use. It's not bad support, it's tailoring the solution to the LCD. If you cant get your mail and haven't even bothered to try any other internet activity to isolate the cause yourslef, and call me within 2 seconds of arriving from your vacation and your mail flunks, then you all you wil get from me is a request to try agin and call back.
      And I'm sorry you got modded as flamebait, apparently there are only two topics on /. -- discussion that evangelises Linux and discussion that disparages MS.

      I would prefer to play Sysadmin on *nix, but I would loathe to do *nix helldesk for clueless lusers.

    6. Re:Seriously. by benedict · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What a load of crap.

      No, seriously.

      Due to network effects, it's likely that there would be one or few dominant home operating systems anyway. But without monopolistic practices, they'd have to actually compete, instead of coasting.

      --
      Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems."
    7. Re:Seriously. by JabberWokky · · Score: 5, Informative
      MS is shady at best. However, most people on this board probably would be without jobs had it not been for W95.

      Speak for yourself. I was happily doing consulting working in 1992, and since then I have been doing nothing but computer jobs. Previous to that, however, I sold applications for the Apple ][ (an image editor named Digital Palette and a text editor named Ion (which had support for Epson print codes!)). That was well before Windows 95.

      There was enough good stuff coming out so that, had Microsoft been absent, we would still be more or less in the same place we are now.

      That really brought the PC to the home consumer, and the Internet to the masses.

      Wow. You have no historical perspective (or you've been smoking MS Press Releases). Was Win95 your first OS? Did you miss the fact that the WinSock and Netscape programs that brought the Internet to that era's users was not part of Win95 (Know what Tucows stands for)? Hell, I was working in an ISP in 1995, and we put out tons of install disks loaded with 16 bit software.

      it's my opinion.

      It really sounds like the opinion of someone whose computer experience began fairly recently. That's no *bad*, just keep in mind that perspective on many of these "absolutes" and "beginnings" is important. I almost choked on coffee when someone first said in a meeting, "Well, as the old saying goes, nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft". That dosen't mean it wasn't true - at the time. And the fact that it's been through iterations just indicates that there are iterations yet to come.

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    8. Re:Seriously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You implied that windows and Bill Gates in some way are superior to alternate solutions. Suffer the consequences.

    9. Re:Seriously. by underpaidISPtech · · Score: 1
      Well, I was happily beating my meat in my bedroom in 92. Lucky you, you won the age lottery.

      You're right, My first OS was Win95. In fact, I bought my first box in 1998. Yep, and I spent 3 years in a shitty high school in Alberta, Canada (90-93) doing data entry and spreadsheets to fulfill my extra credits. Believe you me, computers were not high on the list in our curriculuum. So, does that mean I lack perspective? Perhaps. But alot of today's CS students sure as well would not be enrolled had it not been for the explosive internet boom of $YEAR.


      What I was trying to illustrate is that prior to the advent of one-stop easy access internet and email embodied by W95, most of the populace (the people I am in contact with the most, hence my perspective)played games on their nintendo/PS, and wrote reports and spreadsheets on their PC. The home PC did not have the impact it has today. The masses bought computers by the millions - lowering the price, infusing R&D
      and creating more opportunities for more programmers to create a variety of apps that us point/click monkeys assist others to use.
      Now maybe YOU might have been in the same place, doing the same work, without Big Bill, but I would not have. I would still be staring into a frigging amber monitor plunkin on the same numeric keypad for 8 hrs/day. Now I get to repeat my "create a new dial-up connection" mantra 8 hrs/day.
      Hmm, perhaps not such a good tradeoff....

    10. Re:Seriously. by underpaidISPtech · · Score: 1

      Actually, in '81 our class got to regularly play with turtle graphics on Apple ]['s, our house owned a TRS-80, I learned some BASIC, and in the late 80's our classes used both PC's and the "new" Macs. My high school was grossly underfunded however, and only had terminals running WordPerfect.
      Is my perspective getting better?

    11. Re:Seriously. by TeknoHog · · Score: 2
      If nothing else, Gates should be commended for bringing computers to the masses. Like it or lump it.

      Agreed! But it was only some 10 years later that Linus and the OSS crew brought operating systems to the masses. ;-)

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    12. Re:Seriously. by shepd · · Score: 1

      >Imagine if there were say, 10 different OS classes besides Mac and *nix. The Internet would be a much different place.

      Yeah, it would be a whole lot better.

      I can see it now, 10% IE market share, 10% netscape share, 10% mozilla share, 10% lynx share, 10% links share, 10% arachne share, 10% mosaic share, 10% opera share, 20% other.

      In that market do you think people would bother with all that shit that marketoids think makes webpages look cool, but in reality makes them:

      - Internet Explorer Documents
      - Slow
      - Silly
      - Impossible to read
      - Impossible to browse

      Nope. We'd be back in 1996. And you know what? I could live without mouseover, idiotic sound on webpages, pop-up javashit, and all the other horrible crap out there.

      Plain text plus a few images is all I need. Well, tables are nice... But that's the end of it.

      Oh, that and there'd be no ICQ, MSN, AIM, etc... They would play nicely together and form a homogeneous network that was easy to implement for all 10 OSes.

      The shame. Sharing. What horrible will they think of next? ;)

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    13. Re:Seriously. by warlock · · Score: 2

      "What I was trying to illustrate is that prior to the advent of one-stop easy access internet and email embodied by W95"

      Obviously you haven't even seen Windows 95.

      One-stop easy access internet and email? It had a basic TCP/IP implementation, a bunch of really basic tools that should go with that (like ping and traceroute) and really basic ftp & telnet clients (the latter features the worst VT102 emulation, ever). All that stuff was allready available before that from other vendors, and often came bundled with ISP connections, plus lots more.

      For instance, it definitely did NOT have an email client, or anything of that sort. No NNTP, WAIS, WWW, heck, even gopher client. ISPs used to ship numerous disks to install all that stuff, just like they did with Windows 3.1 before.

      And then "Microsoft Innovation" reared its ugly head of course, and here we are today, $DEITY bless them *cough*

    14. Re:Seriously. by underpaidISPtech · · Score: 1
      Yep asshole I guess I haven't seen 95. Go crawl back under your rock troll. I explicitly stated my first box ran on 95, used it for 2 years. I regularly support all versions of MS Windows as part of my job. You don't need to tell me about 95. If you want to bitch about it not having a bunch of obscure *nix tools that half of the public ( the "populace" I keep referring to, you know, the ones who won't use Linux precisely because of people with attitudes like yourself) wouldnt even know how to use even today, go find another thread.

      Now fuck off.

    15. Re:Seriously. by warlock · · Score: 2

      Who's trolling? I am now convinced you haven't seen Windows 95. What you've probably have seen are OEM installs with extra software (ie Netscape, AOL, Eudora) or some of the service releases releases, that came way after the first one, late '96 - early '97.

      Anyway, even assuming that the 'public' couldn't care less about most of what I said that Windows 95 lacked, you cannot call it a "one-stop easy access internet and email" OS, since it didn't have a bloody email client, or even a frigging web browser.

  19. Stick in the Mud? by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hey!

    I hate to be a stick in the mud, but...
    I *KNOW* these folks have done wonders for us and the industry, but what about Allen? My impression of the guy (only from reading online interviews and such) is that he's not the sort of bloke that would really even think of getting recognised like this (I could be VERY wrong, I don't know the guy). But to recognise Linus (I know, he greatly helped start all this stuff, please don't flame me for that), is really electing a Poster Child (as he has said Himself).

    Sorry. I'm just helping vote for the Underdogs...


    (Man, I'm losing mod points like crazy latley...)

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    I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
    I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
    1. Re:Stick in the Mud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wait, you mean you've read 'so many' interviews with alan cox that you still don't know how his first name is spelled? did you eat paint chips as a child?

    2. Re:Stick in the Mud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, he's probably just a republican who ate a lot of potatoe chips as a child in Indiana.

    3. Re:Stick in the Mud? by starling · · Score: 1

      >what about Allen?

      For writing most of MS Basic while Gates was out playing poker? I'm not sure an award is the best way to recognise that particular achievement.

    4. Re:Stick in the Mud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he meant Allen Cock.

    5. Re:Stick in the Mud? by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 1

      Well, actually, that's kinda my point. He's been doing a ton of work that not a whole lot of folks notice. Granted RedHat is paying him to do it and Linus has another job, but still...

      I do agree, and certainly don't argue the point that, an "award" isn't the greatest way to say "thanx, man", but some mention of the guy would be nice...

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      I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
      I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
    6. Re:Stick in the Mud? by dinotrac · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't you worry about Alan.

      I hear he's already working on an ac patch.

      The Takeda-ac prize won't get as much press attention, but it will get all of the best candidates before the "other" Takeda prize.

      Plus, it's unlikely ever to make a "brown paper bag" selection.

    7. Re:Stick in the Mud? by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 1

      I *KNOW* these folks have done wonders for us and the industry, but what about Allen?

      Indeed. Where would computing be today if it weren't for guys like Tim demanding more power?

    8. Re:Stick in the Mud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I think [s]he ment Allen McPhearson

  20. OPEN SORES NETWORK UNLEASHES VM ATTACK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The current linux VM disaster should be considered a terrorist attack

  21. Someone should immortalize this with a haiku by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Open source software
    and open architecture
    Win Takeda Prize

  22. Timely by hysterion · · Score: 4, Funny
    The Takeda Foundation demonstrates a thourough understanding of Open Source. From the citation:
    Award recipients will be announced in early September of each year
    1. Re:Timely by chinton · · Score: 1

      Gee, I wonder why they didn't do it early September this year....

      Sheesh.

  23. That's Like .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Giving the "Han Solo" award to the rebel alliance. And if you think about it, that analogy applies in more ways than one"

    RMS, on his acceptance speech at Linuxworld 99

  24. Torn from the pages of DUH magazine.... by Unknown+Bovine+Group · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stallman and Torvalds win an Open Source Prize? Shocking! Also in this issue of Duh:

    Jim Henson posthumously awarded the Kermit the Frog Award for Puppetry

    McDonalds awarded the Ray Crock award for tastiest burger joint with a Clown Themed Mascot

    Bill Gates awarded the MCSE lobby's Man of the Millennium, Ballmer heartbroken

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    1. Re:Torn from the pages of DUH magazine.... by Tom7 · · Score: 3, Insightful


      Funny, but the award was for techno-entrepreneurial achievement in social/economic well-being.

    2. Re:Torn from the pages of DUH magazine.... by Unknown+Bovine+Group · · Score: 1

      Sshhh! I know, but Stallman and Torvalds winning the "techno-entrepreneurial achievement in social/economic well-being award" being in Duh magazine isn't NEARLY as funny, now is it? ;)

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    3. Re:Torn from the pages of DUH magazine.... by British · · Score: 2

      Im giggling my ass off here. If I had some mod points(increase the monthly rations!), You'd get a +1 funny.

    4. Re:Torn from the pages of DUH magazine.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Stallman and Torvalds win an Open Source Prize?

      Richard Stallman: Dammit! It's FREE software!!! Not Open Source....Urrgh! I'm gonna go play with my recorder now.

    5. Re:Torn from the pages of DUH magazine.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Increase them? Wouldn't that allow people to make more moronic moderations? The system's pretty bad as it is. Every story has a good 5-10 ontopic comments modded as offtopic or troll.

      Karma's just too easy to get. Nobody cares about losing it in metamod, because they can always get more by simply posting a funny or a well thought out comment.

    6. Re:Torn from the pages of DUH magazine.... by doconnor · · Score: 5, Funny

      ... The next think you know they'll be giving the Nobel Peace Prize to the Secretary General of the United Nations.

  25. ITS AN OPEN SORES THING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Tornballs is a leading figure in the Open Sores movement.

  26. Remember the old Star Trek history rule? by po8 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Remember how, in Star Trek, it was/is the rule when citing history to give 3 sources: two of which you've heard of, and one which is apparently post 21st-century? You know, Kirk will talk about e.g. ``defenders of freedom like Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Ankuba of Sirius 43.''

    Meaning no disrespect to the fine work of any of the recipients of this generous prize, but...

    1. Re:Remember the old Star Trek history rule? by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      If I wasn't a karma whore, thus refusing to mod, I'd have to give that a +1, Funny.

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    2. Re:Remember the old Star Trek history rule? by MarkusQ · · Score: 3, Funny
      Richard Stallman, Ken Sakamura, and Linus Torvalds, have been jointly awarded the first annual Takeda Foundation Prize,...

      Remember how, in Star Trek, it was/is the rule when citing history to give 3 sources: two of which you've heard of, and one which is apparently post 21st-century? You know, Kirk will talk about e.g. ``defenders of freedom like Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Ankuba of Sirius 43.''

      You've never heard of Linus Torvalds?!?!

      -- MarkusQ

    3. Re:Remember the old Star Trek history rule? by jonabbey · · Score: 1

      Hm? What's the karma whore / no mod connection? Does mod'ing now cost karma, or are you just worried about a negative meta-mod?

    4. Re:Remember the old Star Trek history rule? by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Negative meta-mod. I used to mod once or twice a week, and the burn rate on my karma was outrageous. And it's not as if anything I was modding was particularly odd or inappropriate. I tried following the guidelines, but it seems that many meta-modders don't understand them. I tried the 'underrated/overrated' trick for a while, but that was too dishonest. So I just marked 'unwilling to mod'.

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    5. Re:Remember the old Star Trek history rule? by Speare · · Score: 2

      Like the children's rhyme in This Perfect Day, by Ira Levin, naming the great socialists.

      Christ, Marx, Wood and Wei, we thank you for this perfect day. ... Marx, Wood, Wei and Christ, all but Wei were sacrificed.

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  27. Linus: Does he even know/care? by chinton · · Score: 2, Funny
    After reading the "tell all" interview what are the odds that Linus:
    1. Doesn't know?
    2. Doesn't care?
    3. "really likes our filesystem layer"
    1. Re:Linus: Does he even know/care? by ichimunki · · Score: 2, Funny

      4. Cowboy Neal.

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    2. Re:Linus: Does he even know/care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It is not unpatriotic to exercise your rights and it is un-American to suggest otherwise.

      What does "un-American" mean?

      You can't mean it's unpatriotic to suggest otherwise, since anyone making that suggestion would be merely exercising their rights, which you categorically state is not unpatriotic.

      Do you mean that suggesting otherwise is something that Americans don't do? If so I think you're so obviously wrong it's difficult to see how you could have reached that conclusion.

  28. On a different but related topic by bryanbrunton · · Score: 1


    Anyone know how Linus' book is selling? Is that information available on the web?

    With the likely dissolution of Transmeta in about one year's time (at their current cash burn rate) it will be nice to see Linus get this money. From reading his book, I got the impression that Linus spent most of his stock option money on his house.

    Also we might as well begin this speculation now: where will Linus work after Transmeta?

    1. Re:On a different but related topic by jonathan_ingram · · Score: 1

      Anyone know how Linus' book is selling?
      According to
      http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1587990 80 6/o/qid=1002929163/sr=2-2/ref=sr_bt_2/202-9281352- 4689406
      'Just For Fun: The Story of an Accidental Revolutionary' by Linus Torvalds, David Diamond, is the 3769th best selling book in Amazon UK.
      So a real mass market success...

  29. MOD THE PARENT UP !! by tmark · · Score: 0, Troll

    Where the hell are my mod points when I need 'em. That was damn funny.

    1. Re:MOD THE PARENT UP !! by kilgore_47 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Where the hell are my mod points when I need 'em. That was damn funny.

      Maybe they've been given to people who know when to use their +1 bonus and when not to.

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  30. Re:NOPE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sheesh, get it right.

    It's Linux Torvaldes.

    Didn't they teach you in school that it's bad manners to misspell somebody's name?

  31. Recognition by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I am a dev myself but one thing that is too common is the attitude to the other people within te software development process. Testers.

    What about testers next? Without them we would still be hacking blindly. Personally I think testers dont get enough recognition. I personally thank testers for helping me write good scaleable, solid, reliable secure code.

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  32. You Writeda Code. by Darth+RadaR · · Score: 5, Funny

    You Takeda Prize.
    \(^_^)/

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    1. Re:You Writeda Code. by gnurd · · Score: 1

      someone mod this up. havnt laughed out loud at a /. comment in ages.

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    2. Re:You Writeda Code. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha! :) HA!

      HAHAHAHAHHA!

      That was damn funny, but I'm not sure if it's the 6 beers laughing or me! :)

    3. Re:You Writeda Code. by extrasolar · · Score: 2

      Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

      (for the anti-stupid acronyms compaign)

  33. Major recognition? by ldopa1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "This is a major new recognition of the social value of free software and open source."

    I hadn't even heard of the Takeda Prize until this article. If someone like me, who it very up to date on technology doesn't have the slightest clue about what the Takeda Prize means, or what it would be for, how can you call it major recognition? If nobody knows about it, it isn't major. There aren't exactly a half-billion people rearranging their dinner schedules to catch the Takeda Prize.

    Which leads me to another point; This is the first annual Takeda Prize. Again, I ask, how is this "major recognition"? This isn't the Nobel Prize, which is 100 years old and internationally recognized. This isn't even the Pulitzer Prize, which ANYONE can enter.

    Yes, I realize that the Nobel Prize was once new, and it takes time. I just don't see it as major recognition.

    BTW: I won this year's First Annual Nimrod Prize for Outstanding Slashdot Commentary. This is a major new recognition of the social value of LDOPA1's digital literature.

    See my point?

    Moderators: This isn't Flamebait, it's textual criticism. There is a difference.

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    The Dopester
    "Yes, I'm a Karma Whore, but I'm doing it to pay my way through school."
    1. Re:Major recognition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      While we haven't heard of this, it is probably because it is centered in Japan. A lot of things happen in Japan, you know. They have this whole other language, culture, and prizes...

      I don't know if this is a big thing that most Japanese know about, but regardless, just because us geeks haven't heard of it, doesn't mean its bullshit!

      jdandr2@uky.edu (forgot slashdot password)

    2. Re:Major recognition? by Kefabi · · Score: 1

      Considering the prize is 100 million yen, or over 800,000 US dollars, the prize IS significant. Nobel Prize winners split just under a million US dollars. This isn't too far off.

    3. Re:Major recognition? by ldopa1 · · Score: 2

      Did I mention that the Nimrod Prize for Outstanding Slashdot Commentary is $60,000,000,000,000,000 US?

      :)

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  34. Re:Major new recognition? by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 0

    Me either, but i have heard about the obscure coding contest :D

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  35. token by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    think the last guy is the token japanese so it isn't all westerners?

    1. Re:token by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate moslems.

  36. You forgot ESR's Nostradamus Award by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For predicting the end of the evil empire.

  37. TRON Inside? by JasonAsbahr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just curious, I've heard of TRON, but I don't what specific products actually use it. How many TRON-based Japanese products are in our homes right now?

    Jason

  38. I sent this one month ago by ecesar · · Score: 0, Interesting

    * 2001-09-13 23:31:02 Linus and Stallman received award (articles) (rejected)

  39. .ca??? by hawk · · Score: 2
    did Quebec finally secede? (or get kicked out? :)


    hawk

    1. Re:.ca??? by jeffy124 · · Score: 1

      AFAIK:
      1) .ca is for all of Canada.
      2) Quebec is included in all of Canada.
      3) Quebec is still a province of Canada.

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    2. Re:.ca??? by hawk · · Score: 2
      That's what I thought. Which suggests that it doesn't meet the "english language" criteria given for domains . . .


      hawk

  40. Finland was supposed to do this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some American visionary presented a year or two ago that Finland should come up with the Nobel prize of engineering. The idea hadn't then been taken yet, and it would be good business PR for the Finnish industry.

    There was some enthusiastic public discussion. Industrialists proposed to contribute prize money if the state matched the funds. However, nobody really adopted the project so it was forgotten within a couple of weeks.

    So now the Japanese stole the idea. The Finns should have at least patented it since Japan now accepts American-style Interesting Idea patents.

    Marko

  41. who is Sakamura by L-Train8 · · Score: 4, Informative

    University of Tokyo professor, who developed the TRON open architecture, a real-time operating system specification for embedded systems. TRON stands for The Real-time Operating system Nucleus. You may have know another version, ITRON, or Industrial TRON. Do a search on TRON and Sakamura and you'll find more info than you need.

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    Don't forget that Friday is Hawaiian shirt day.
    1. Re:who is Sakamura by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      Isn't TRON used in the motor-mangement for the hydrogen powered rotary engines in Lightcycles?

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      Lars T.

      To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck

  42. well there's this years winners... by LazyDawg · · Score: 1

    Just how many other open source projects have there been that are successful?

    Seriously, there just aren't that many projects out there with universal recognition, let alone acceptance.

    Here's a prediction for next year's winners:
    1. Larry Wall
    2. Guido Van Rossum
    or
    3. whoever invented TCL or Beowolf.

    And then we're fresh out of winners for all subsequent years. It'll be worse than the Oscars.

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    1. Re:well there's this years winners... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really.

      Large numbers of Linux developers, Apache developers, [Free|Net|Open]BSD developers, loads of GNU tool writers (gcc, flex, bison to start with), IBM has done a _lot_ of very cool open things.

      Then there are the founders of the internet, which is a series of open standards. Fresh out of winners? Bollocks.

  43. Linus Torvalds wins Linus Torvalds award!!!! by SetupWeasel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, patting yourself on the back in the form of gratutious awards is a super nifty keen way to gain "respectability" when most people won't give you the "Time of Day" award.

    I'm not ragging on open source it is just that touting Open Source awards given by Open Source people is like buying yourself a birthday present when no one cares enough to give you one. With all due respect, who outside the "Open Source World" gives a rat's shit?

    1. Re:Linus Torvalds wins Linus Torvalds award!!!! by rking · · Score: 1

      I'm not ragging on open source it is just that touting Open Source awards given by Open Source people is like buying yourself a birthday present when no one cares enough to give you one. With all due respect, who outside the "Open Source World" gives a rat's shit?

      Other than the fact that it was won by people involved in open source, the award is not in any sense an "Open Source Award".

      It's an award for "Techno-Entrepreneurial Achievement for Social/Economic Well-Being". There was no reason that it couldn't have been awarded to people working on closed source software. There doesn't seem to be any link between the Takeda Foundation and open source software. It doesn't seem to be in any way a foregone conclusion that this award would go to people working on open source software.

      If you know of some reason to believe otherwise then say what it is, otherwise complaining about "Open Source Awards given by Open Source people" is totally irrelevant to the award under discussion here.

  44. Question by HoaryCripple · · Score: 1

    I've heard of Stallman and Sakamura, but who is this Torvalds guy?

    :)

    1. Re:Question by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

      I've heard of Stallman and Sakamura, but who is this Torvalds guy?

      Oh, right, not many people are heard of him... Linus Thorwalds is a Norwegian fisherman who designed an embeddable operating system for use in trawlers. Or something. =)

      (this is a legendary parody of one particularly typoful/misinformationary computer glossary somewhere...)

  45. Anyone notice the figures are GIF? by joelsherrill · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh the sad irony that the figures are in format based upon a software patent. See the FSF's Why no GIFs? for details. As an aside there is an open source OS that supports the uITRON 3.0 API and POSIX -- RTEMS. Congratulations to all recipients. The projects are definitely worthy. --joel

    1. Re:Anyone notice the figures are GIF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always find those 'Why no .GIF's' captions on the bottom of all the pages over in GNU land amusing.

      It's such a rant thing.

      So Stallmanista.

  46. kumiko takeda? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or a different takeda?

  47. Takeda prize = $825,900 USD by Mike_L · · Score: 2, Informative

    From The Takeda Foundation: "Each award will be accompanied by a monetary prize of 100 million yen."
    The XE.com Universal Currency Converter yields these figures:

    100,000,000.00 Japan Yen = $825,900.067 United States Dollars

    This is $275,300 USD for each of the awardees.

  48. Yes, let's reward him for his virtual silence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, the greatest evil in quite some time occurs right down the street from them, and they stand silent. What great guys. Hooray for Kofi!

    1. Re:Yes, let's reward him for his virtual silence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, the greatest evil in quite some time occurs right down the street from them

      If you'd said "a great evil" then you'd have a point but "the greatest evil in quite some time" just sounds like you have no awareness of anything outside your little goldfish bowl.

    2. Re:Yes, let's reward him for his virtual silence by Isle · · Score: 1

      Does that suprise you? he sounds like an american. We should applaud him for knowing whats going on in HIS own fishpond. Its a REALLY big step forward...

  49. Hehe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "recognition of the social value of free software and open source"

    Social value of free software :) I guess you don't get out much do you? :)

  50. Lets see. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lets see if I get this straight.

    The winner of the social/economic prize is not any humanitarian project to help people in the third world getting water and basic living standard.

    Noooooo, instead it's people like RMS who is ranting around yelling that people are in prison if they can't see the source-code for the software they use. WHO GIVES A SHIT?

    How narrow-sighted are theese people? Get a life!!

  51. Free Is Not PD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice award, but the recipients' software isn't truly free. Public Domain is free.

  52. true heros of the free world by BroadbandBradley · · Score: 0, Troll

    Thanks!

  53. Hey they missed one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It should have been: Sakamura/Boxleitner/Stallman/Torvalds and in that order.. Boxleitner fought for freedom at least a year before Stallman.

  54. Re:Where'd I get this quote? $1 to the correct gue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trolling for publicity, you filthy critic.

  55. Re:true heros of the (almost) free world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nc

  56. TRON... mmmmmm. by El+Camino+SS · · Score: 1


    Open Source? Ahhh, after all, TRON was designed to liberate the system from the hideous MCP.

    I keeeck your ass with a frisbee!

    "SAAAAAAARK! Rise from the dead, SAAAARK!"

  57. income from awards is tax free by phr1 · · Score: 1

    at least for federal tax, from what I understand.
    If you win a Nobel prize you don't pay tax on it either.

  58. the company you keep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    if by awarding Stallman for his tyrannical, elitist, hypocritical, illogical and self serving (while always covered by a pretty blanket called 'for the people') [often referred to as SOCIALISM, which has proven to not work...] that really does say alot about this award.

    Sort of like giving a prize to the National Socialists for the great advancements in medicine (especially emergency medicine), aircraft technology and cryptography.

    I guess that is what seperates peaceful loving and productive people, from tyrants and their supporters (read: those who wish to control others). So, if history has taught me anything, it is that you can get away literally with murder as long as you can spew pretty words and rhetoric (or at least manipulate people with shallow promises, whipping them up into a frenzy of blood lust).

    Thanks liberals! Our history would be grand, if it were not for your hypocritical rape of freedom and liberty.

    1. Re:the company you keep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ooh.. a pol sci major.

    2. Re:the company you keep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      So, if history has taught me anything, it is that you can get away literally with murder as long as you can spew pretty words and rhetoric (or at least manipulate people with shallow promises, whipping them up into a frenzy of blood lust).

      You must be talking about our President.

  59. Re:First cat hair post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ahh.. sausage.

    :o)

  60. Takedown award by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Hmmmm, "Takada" award.


    Should be the "takedown" award for killing most small Linux companies and rewarding the gainets, thanks to the GPL.

  61. Other Open-Source types (no, they won't run out..) by Bronster · · Score: 2

    Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team.

    Bruce Perens (hey, I'm using Busybox a lot at the moment).

    .. don't even get me started on the names behind such famous products as the *BSD's, Apache, KDE, Gnome, Postfix, GIMP...

    (and no, it's not because I'm too lazy to STFW to find out who they actually are ;)