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Intel kills Consumer Electronics

bribecka writes "Saw this on CNet News.com: Intel has decided to phase out its consumer electronics division. This division was responsible for digital cameras, digital audio players, and other gadgets. " Not really surprising considering the way things are these days.

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  1. Please lift my nuts... by cyborg_monkey · · Score: -1

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    1. Re:Please lift my nuts... by LinuxIsForAssholes · · Score: -1

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  2. Another post about testicles. by cyborg_monkey · · Score: -1

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  3. Intel by crumbz · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's a low margin business anyway. They never should of got into that business.

    Unless you consider the Pentium class of processors "consumer grade".

    1. Re:Intel by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Low margin because they made cheap stuff. I have the Intel Play microscope, and it's pretty crude resolution. It come swith a few slides of bugs and stuff, but the resolution is so poor that the best you can hope for is a fuzzy look at some detail. Digital microscopes usually $700+ affairs, for pretty good ones, and with a few extra bucks put into this thing they could have had the science market of every school in the country. Too bad they didn't put some real entrepeneurs in charge of that division.

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    2. Re:Intel by BigRedZX · · Score: 1
      Too bad they didn't put some real entrepeneurs in charge of that division

      You obviously have never worked for Intel.

      The only "entrepeneurs" inside Intel are the ones who made a real business from scratch and were devoured by the Borg. They won't be ready to run a division until the implants are completely set.

  4. Oh no! by blumpy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What am I don't to do with my Intel microscope?

    1. Re:Oh no! by cyborg_monkey · · Score: -1

      Ok, I read that several times and it still makes no fucking sense.

    2. Re:Oh no! by jiheison · · Score: 2

      Same thing you've BEEN doing with it, I reckon.

      That is, unless you were only using it as a way to remember which company to buy consumer electronics from.

    3. Re:Oh no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Use it to study the MicroPenis(TM). If you aren't blessed with one, ask the First Dildo Poster.

  5. Microsoft Announces Strong Quartely Revenue by LinuxIsForAssholes · · Score: -1

    REDMOND, Wash. -- Oct. 18, 2001 -- Microsoft Corp. today announced revenue of $6.13 billion for the quarter ended Sept. 30, 2001, a 6 percent increase over the $5.77 billion reported in the prior year. Operating income totaled $2.90 billion compared to $2.78 billion in the prior year. Net income for the quarter was $1.28 billion including a $1.24 billion after-tax charge related to the impairment of certain publicly traded and private equity securities, predominantly in the cable and telecommunications industries. This charge is reflected in the $980 million investment loss reported this quarter. Diluted earnings per share for the September 2001 quarter were $0.23, including a $0.20 charge for net recognized investment losses which includes the impairment charge noted above.
    "We reported solid revenue and operating results this quarter, fueled by strong customer demand for our Windows® 2000 and .NET Enterprise Server families, and our cost-control efforts," said John Connors, chief financial officer at Microsoft. "While we are looking forward to the upcoming launches of Windows XP, XboxTM and MSN® 7, we also recognize that this is a period of unprecedented global uncertainty that could have an impact on the economy and our business."

    The Windows 2000 Server family had a stellar quarter, with sales growth of over 20 percent. "We were especially thrilled to see strong customer demand for Windows 2000 Advanced Server, which sold twice as many units as it did the previous year. These products are a rock-solid foundation for the entire .NET Enterprise Server lineup," said Brian Valentine, senior vice president for the Windows division at Microsoft. "These results demonstrate our customers' enthusiasm for the quality, value and performance offered in our enterprise-ready products and solutions."

    The .NET Enterprise Server family of products also turned in an outstanding quarter with growth exceeding 30 percent, led by the continuing strength of SQL Server 2000 and Exchange 2000 Server. During the quarter, SQL Server 2000 was named Best Overall Database in this year's VARBusiness Annual Report Card and was deployed by customers such as Pennzoil, Nestlé and Marathon Oil. Exchange Server is the market-leading messaging and collaboration product and boasts over 94 million users. During the quarter, Microsoft also launched Content Management Server 2001, which enables companies to quickly and efficiently build, deploy and maintain highly dynamic Internet, intranet and extranet web sites.

    Microsoft is set to deliver two highly anticipated products to customers during the coming quarter. On Oct. 25, Microsoft will launch Windows XP at events to be held in New York City and more than 60 other cities. Windows XP extends the personal computing experience by uniting PCs, devices and services, and brings the solid foundation of Windows 2000 to home PC users, enhancing reliability, security and performance.

    On Nov. 15, Microsoft will launch Xbox, the future-generation video game system. The combination of Xbox's superior graphics performance and an extensive lineup of game titles from Microsoft and leading game-developers, such as Sega, Electronic Arts, THQ, Tecmo, Infogames, Activision, Konami and LucasArts, will deliver a revolutionary experience to gamers this holiday season.

    Business Outlook

    Management offers the following guidance for the quarter ending Dec. 31, 2001:

    Revenue is expected to be in the range of $7.1 billion and $7.3 billion.
    Operating income is expected to be in the range of $2.9 and $3.0 billion.
    Diluted earnings per share is expected to be $0.49 or $0.50.

    Management offers the following guidance for the full fiscal year ending June 30, 2002:

    Revenue is expected to be in the range of $28.4 billion and $29.1 billion.
    Operating income is expected to be in the range of $12.0 and $12.4 billion.
    Diluted earnings per share is expected to be in the range of $1.61 to $1.66.

    Webcast Details

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    For further information regarding risks and uncertainties associated with Microsoft's business, please refer to the "Management's Discussion and Analysis of Results of Operations and Financial Condition" and "Risk Factors" sections of Microsoft's SEC filings, including, but not limited to, its annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, copies of which may be obtained by contacting Microsoft's investor relations department at 1-800-285-7772 or Microsoft's investor relations website at http://www.microsoft.com/msft.

    All information in this release is as of Oct. 18, 2001. The company undertakes no duty to update any forward-looking statement to conform the statement to actual results or changes in the company's expectations.

    Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq "MSFT") is the worldwide leader in software, services and Internet technologies for personal and business computing. The company offers a wide range of products and services designed to empower people through great software -- any time, any place and on any device.

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  6. what the fuck? by Bilton · · Score: -1

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  7. Not in it for the right reasons... by Cutriss · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I thought the only reason Intel was even in that business was to promote "their" USB technology. The microscope, the webcam, keyboard and mouse, joysticks...They were all USB devices, and Intel pushed them forth as some of the coolest things available on USB. Unfortunately, Intel has yet to learn that fads don't sell products long-term, hence the "failure to meet long-term growth potential". Well, duh! What'd you expect from selling a fad product?

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  8. they will now have more time by perdida · · Score: 5, Funny

    to concentrate on VIA cloning their chips.

    I can imagine the commercials now... someone injects some blue blood into a test tube, and comes out with a warped and deformed Blue Man.

    Then, as the scientist shoots the miserable spawn, a caption appears:

    "Intel P4: Accept No Substitutes."

    1. Re:they will now have more time by sir99 · · Score: 1

      Hah! Thanks for the great ending to my workday!

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  9. It's a shame, really... by Firecaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One thing I like about the industry is the diversity of it all. You can walk in a store and be able to choose the product that better suits your needs. With Intel out of the (digital) picture (pun semi-intended), this might create doubt in the smaller manufacturers out there and make a few more drop out of the running. Worst case scenario, it might create a monopoly, at least, in the consumer electronics venue.

    1. Re:It's a shame, really... by joel8x · · Score: 1

      Your right - during these slow times it seems that a lot of the fringe developments of major companies are going fast - I really like the games that came with my Intel PC Camera - there's nothing like dancing around your PC like an idiot trying knock a virtual basketball into a net via your moving image.

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  10. But....but....but... by Quarters · · Score: 3, Funny

    Which company am I going to turn to to get my hemmorhoid ring shaped, iMac blue, wireless game pads? (http://www.intel.com/wireless_series/gamepad.htm)

    Oh the humanity...

  11. Ironic that.. by MentlFlos · · Score: 2
    .. when I go to Intel's web page they have it boldly proclaimed that

    "Music, Pictures, Video
    Intel Takes Technology Beyond the Processor"

  12. MP3 player by sulli · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Didn't their non-MP3 MP3 player use Microsoft DRM? No wonder it went overlike a lead balloon! Serves 'em right.

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    1. Re:MP3 player by jockm · · Score: 1

      It supports both MP3 and WMA.

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    2. Re:MP3 player by Sir_Real · · Score: 1

      I know this is offtopic, but... Are there mp3 players out there that won't play music I've downloaded from gnutella? I've heard allegations and rumors that the sony network walkmans won't play these... ??? I may be under the influence.

    3. Re:MP3 player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to convert your entire MP3/OGG collection into Sony's proprietary secure "ATRAC3" format before uploading it to your Network Walkman, via the Secure Jukebox application.

      Diagnosis: NETWORK WALKMAN SUCKS.

  13. ya know... by mickeyreznor · · Score: 4, Funny

    it would have been helpful to add the word "department" at the end of the headline. Saying "Intel kills Consumer Electornics" might freak some people out.

    1. Re:ya know... by jiheison · · Score: 1

      Saying "Intel kills Consumer Electornics" might freak some people out.

      Phew!. The first thing I thought was, "THEY'LL NEVER TAKE AWAY MY TI SPEAK-AND-SPELL!!!!"

    2. Re:ya know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      apparently there's a magazine by the title Consumer Electronics too: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=22798&cid=2452 913

  14. Plea to Intel... by complex · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Dear Intel,

    Please release the specs and documentation associated with the products you've discontinued. For example, the Intel Pocket PC Camera, along with your other webcams.

    Thank you.

    complex

    1. Re:Plea to Intel... by Spankophile · · Score: 2

      Dear Intel,

      Please release the specs and documentation associated with the products you've discontinued. For example, the Intel Pocket PC Camera [linux.com], along with your other webcams


      This is actually a really good point. I've wondered myself why companies that no longer sell/support a product don't just open it up wide. THis goes for software as well as hardware specs. Is there really that much competitive IP tied up in a discontinued product that they can't let it out?

      By releasing the specs of a hardware device, or publishing the source for a device driver or video game, are companies really going to be giving away that much? (Oh no! They'll see how wonderful our coding style guideline is!)

    2. Re:Plea to Intel... by btellier · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Normally when companies say that they are "phasing out" or "discontinuing" a product line they are really just looking for a buyer. Most companies can't afford to do their own R&D on things like digital camera lines but might be able to buy it off an ailing division like Intel's CED.

    3. Re:Plea to Intel... by VAXman · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is actually a really good point. I've wondered myself why companies that no longer sell/support a product don't just open it up wide. THis goes for software as well as hardware specs. Is there really that much competitive IP tied up in a discontinued product that they can't let it out?

      One reason may be that the product may use some component that the company doesn't want to open up even own. For example, a piece of software may depend on some proprietary library which the company doesn't own (and, thus, doesn't have the authorization to open up), and opens itself up to legal trouble if it opens up. A hardware component may be partially designed by another firm and again the company is opening itself to lawsuits if it releases the information. In these cases it is very expensive to research whether or not a product can be opened, and this is a very difficult process if it wasn't originally designed to be open.

  15. The consumer part of intel was always secondary. by NotSurprised · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you noticed, every Intel "consumer" product was designed to work with a PC, the faster the processor the better. Basically, their consumer products were designed to drive more PC (and hence, Pentium) sales. Just another way to extend your marketing reach...

    Intel is sitting pretty right now (relatively speaking, considering the state of the industry), and also PCs have already reached saturation as well. So they probably don't need "more" -- considering that consumer electronics is so far removed from Intel's core competencies anyways.

  16. Yes YAhoo baby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    1. Re:Yes YAhoo baby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

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  17. CHANGE THAT TITLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Head's up /.

    The title of this story is "Intel kills Consumer Electronics"

    There is a magazine called Consumer Electronics, who may not be too happy about that title. I actually thought that Intel somehow did the magazine in.

    I highly advise that the title be changed to something like "Intel Kills Consumer Electronics Division".

    1. Re:CHANGE THAT TITLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:CHANGE THAT TITLE by Jenova_Six · · Score: 1

      And if you want to make it really accurate, change it to "Intel kills Consumer Products Division", since that's what the group is called.

      Oh wait - did I just mention Slashdot and accuracy in the same sentence? Sorry...

      Jenova_Six

  18. It's a relief and a shame. by Sj0 · · Score: 1

    I'm truly relieved to know that not all companies can get into a market and dominate it thoroughly like microsoft. I'm very glad that intel doesn't have this power, despite the fact that they are rich.

    It's also a shame though, when the peripheral market shrinks a little bit.

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  19. Makes sense by Green+Aardvark+House · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It made sense for Intel to get out of consumer electronics.

    Declining global economy - Electronics are "luxury items" and therefore are cut first from consumers' budgets.

    Less name recognition - Intel is widely recognized as a leading chipmaker. But for audio players PDA's and such, most people weren't aware, or simply went for bigger names like Rio or Palm.

    Also note they are closing their Online Services Division, as well.

    This will be best for the company. Focus on what it does best.

    1. Re:Makes sense by havaloc · · Score: 1

      This will be best for the company. Focus on what it does best.


      If you are calling their processors what it does best, its scary to imagine how bad their other products are.

    2. Re:Makes sense by duffbeer703 · · Score: 2

      Wow... Slashdot orthodoxy at it's best.

      In case you didn't notice, Intel owns 80% of the microprocessor market, and AMD will be bankrupt next year.

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    3. Re:Makes sense by Jenova_Six · · Score: 1

      Also note they are closing their Online Services Division, as well.

      Actually, they killed Intel Online Services and Intel Internet Media Services months ago.

      Jenova_Six

  20. Just thoughts by BluePenguin · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm just thinking... does it seem like a lot of the prodocts that have flared up here were good ideas for the geek market... but that the consumer market isn't ready for?

    Example: How many consumers really want an MP3 player in thier home entertainment system? We love it (and spend lots of time talking about the best way to do it), but does the average consumer?

    I think this may be a trend. Geeks think of cool things, and start doing them. Someone in marketing says "Hey, look what the engeneers are putting together for themselves... if they want it and can do it... maybe we can market it!" A few months later geeks are interested... but marketing is looking at consumers not geeks... and projects get abandoned.

    I mean, think about it, when's the last time you saw an add for a portable mp3 player on TV. I've just recently heard a few radio adds for car stereo with mp3 support... but nothing like the Rout 66 project.

    :q!

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  21. They make consumer electronics? by Uttles · · Score: 1

    This is a good move for Intel considering I've never even heard of an intel digital camera, and as I'm semi "wired" I would assume that means that the majority of people haven't heard of them either. Intel should stick to what they're good at: being second to PPC.

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    1. Re:They make consumer electronics? by pressman · · Score: 1

      Well, I used to work for an agency that did lots of video and multimedia for Intel. Of course all of it was designed on Macs.

      We made videos and Flash pieces and web sites all about their digital cameras, internet terminals, web cams etc. So yeah, they had a lot consumer devices, many of which have yet to see the light of day. Other than the Intel brand, these things really had no compelling reason to be puchased.

      Intel's a chip company. They aren't creative enough to really compete in the consumer/"digital hub" arena. This is all probably for the best.

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  22. Liar Liar Liar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Your momma sucks my dick and your pantz is on fire!!

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  23. Intel Kills Consumers by denzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    In a sweeping move today, Intel Corporation has decided to boost revenue during the current looming recession by making drastic changes to the chip market.

    It plans on killing off the consumer base.

    "Consumers are starting to get smart," tertiary chief marketing analyst Joe Nooty said, "They are realizing that they don't actually need to upgrade from a 866MHz Pentium III to a 2.0GHz Pentium 4 to have a good Internet experience."

    "We don't appreciate how our clients becoming unemployed and unable to think about buying our absolute latest product," said another marketing person, "It's time to give them the axe and redefine the market."

    Execution of human beings, except for those employed by Intel, will commence in Q1 2002. The new Pentium 5 (or Pentium Pentium, codenamed Pentium Squared) will debut and will offer a fish-friendly interface.

    "The reason for the fish-interface is simple. The world is 75% covered by water. We'll make a killing in sales by targetting the largest body of species in the world," claimed Nooty.

    Intel representatives refused to answer our calls when we asked sent in questions such as: How do you plan to make "money" off of fish? Where will all these human consumers be burried? What will Intel do as a lone-standing human civilization? And did you ask Microsoft how they plan to port Windows XP (for eXPired) for oceanic fauna?

    1. Re:Intel Kills Consumers by (startx) · · Score: 1

      This is the funniest shit I've read all week! Have you ever thought about submitting it to segfault.org?

      *Second time submitting this post (what the hell is an invalid form key?)*

  24. Business Ethics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here is an another example of bad business ethics. Intel never stopped to think about all the workers that would lose their jobs. Intel never thought about what this would do to our suffering economy.

    I say boycott Intell and buy AMD.

  25. Intel was TERRIBLE at consumer products. by Futurepower(tm) · · Score: 5, Informative


    In my opinion, Intel was TERRIBLE at making and marketing consumer products. They would sell a product with important details still buggy.

    For example, I bought an Intel computer video camera. There was software to record videos, but there was no way to compress them so that the videos could be sent by email.

    There was software to record audio, but there was no way to pause the recording. Each period of recording had to be a separate file.

    Intel sold a PCMCIA network adapter that didn't work with Sony laptops. There was a piece of paper in the box that said to visit a particular web site. The site said that the adapter did not work with laptops using a particular chipset. The main site for the product did not mention this, however, and there was no link between the two..


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    1. Re:Intel was TERRIBLE at consumer products. by British · · Score: 2

      I've had varying success with Intel's cameras.

      I bought the regular middle-end camera, but it wouldn't work for more than 20 seconds on my K6-2 system. Tried everything, evetntually gave up.

      I tried it on my Compaq Laptop, worked just great.

      Tried the high-end camera at work, and just like the middle-end camera, the image quality was PERFECT(no weird lighting situations, etc).

      Too bad really. For several dollars more, you could do away with grainy or poorly lit webcam images.

    2. Re:Intel was TERRIBLE at consumer products. by _avs_007 · · Score: 1

      You must be talking about the 802.11b card... But don't blame intel. Symbol made the card. (or is it cymbol? I forget the spelling)...

      But actually, don't get mad at either.. The Vaio is a piece of crap. My Vaio drains the battery MUUUUUUCH faster than my thinkpad.. I also hate how the function keys, the volume wheel, etc etc are all soft keys, meaning you need drivers to get it to work... What a pain... And they didn't work with XP either. And my touch pad on my Vaio is very very quirky... Its so bad, I have to take an external mouse wherever I go.... The eraser point thingy on my thinkpad is much easier to use, and MUCH more reliable. The touchpad on my Vaio always jumps erratically at times, randomly clicking and dragging/screwing things up.

      Besides, I like the keyboard illuminator on my thinkpad :)

  26. Mistake for Intel by LinuxIsForAssholes · · Score: -1

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    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

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    Due to the troubles of the Anal Sludge Eating Corporation, abysmal sales and so on, homosexual fantasies involving JonKatz went out of style and was taken over by fantasies involving CmdrTaco who sells himself on the street corner. Now CmdrTaco's Ass-Sex Company is also dead, its corpse turned over to another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that JonKatz fantasies have steadily declined in market share. JonKatz is very sick and his long term homosexuality prospects are very dim. If JonKatz's homosexuality is to survive at all it will be among homosexual hobbyist dabblers. JonKatz homosexuality continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, JonKatz's homosexual fantasy is dead.

    JonKatz's homosexuality is dying

  27. Not very wise by Zen+Mastuh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When the economy picks up in a few months, Intel will spend a bunch of money re-opening its Consumer Electronics Division. So will all the other megacorps who are having a contest to see who can lay off the most employees, shut down the most divisions, and finish the year in the black. I think people ("consumers" in business parlance) are just a little scared about spending money right now and are delaying purchases--rather than becoming introspective about overconsumption and all the other things that make America the Great Satan. When everybody feels a little safer again, the money will start rolling up the pyramid into the vaults of the upper caste yet again. Besides, the holiday shopping season is almost here.

    While I was whoring for my undergrad business degree, I remember my profs always speaking of the risks of doing business, etc... I'm beginning to think that only applies to sole proprietors. Historically, corporate owners were only liable to the extent of their investment. With the $100,000,000,000+ US that Bush is trying to give to the megacorps, how can any of them still believe they will lose money this year?

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    "What is the sound of one belly slapping?"
    1. Re:Not very wise by blair1q · · Score: 2

      Eventually, when Intel is flush with cash and looking for ways to risk it, maybe.

      But the whole point of diversifying is to find those businesses that are easy when you're rich and durable when you're not.

      Intel is doing the right thing shaking itself out of a subsidiary business that turns less profit and leaving it to more focussed competitors.

      As for your question about the bailouts, $100 billion is nothing in this economy. Most popular mutual funds have $0.5-3.0 trillion in them. And there are a bunch of those.

      Lots of companies will go the way of Intel's consumer-products division.

      BTW, I'm predicting that this time next decade, you'll be able to walk into Crazy Great Satan's Hi-Fi store in Tehran and get the new Sony MD players and pay $US currency. The world changes. If you stop listening to the xenophobes worldwide and change it.

      --Blair

  28. Intel on appliances by LazyDawg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm just sort of glad Motorola hasn't decided to ditch their much more popular 680x0 breed of processors, which can be found in everything from your phone to your PDA to your older computers. Intel leaving the industry just means there's more money to be made if you're one of the "other", higher quality chipmakers.

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    "Look at me, I invented the stove!" -- Ben Franklin
    1. Re:Intel on appliances by kvigor · · Score: 1

      I suppose this is probably a troll, but since it got modded up as 'interesting', I feel compelled to point out that the article says nothing about Intel discontinuing any line of processors.

      Unless you are somehow under the impression that a digital camera competes directly with 16-bit microcontrollers for consumer dollars, I really con't find even a tiny modicum of sense in this comment.

  29. Fuck you! by Galvatron · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    It's only 2:00 here, bastard.

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    "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
  30. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess a beowulf cluster of these wouldn't be very useful.

  31. Oh, no! by blang · · Score: 2

    "Honey, the stereo died again, we can't seem to keep anything working around here anymore..."

    Fade in scary music. Pan to Fentium, the little chipster busying reading BOFH. clickety-click.
    Pan to vacuum cleaner. See the new mexican jumping bean robots disappearing up the tube. Pan to the TV set, where the volume is at full, on channel 3.5, with Barney singing a duo with HAL.

    --
    -- Another senseless waste of fine bytes.
  32. Handspring Wireless Ethernet Module by Milican · · Score: 2

    Anyone know if this will be discontinued too? I believe they acquired it when they acquired Xircom.

    JOhn

    1. Re:Handspring Wireless Ethernet Module by Jenova_Six · · Score: 1

      No, their networking stuff is not part of the division being closed, and will keep on going.

      Jenova_Six

  33. Nope by kolding · · Score: 1

    It played just about everything. All the reviews I read pretty much put the Pocket Concert as the best memory based MP3 player out there. Lame name, boring package, but works like a charm (I like mine).

  34. I wonder what this means... by TheMacGenius · · Score: 1

    ...for Apple, who is releasing some mystery device next week and getting back into the consumer hardware business. Hopefully it won't go the way of the Newton or Pippin...

    1. Re:I wonder what this means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it's a device that let's users watch DVD's and burn CD-RW's... it's called "an AMD PC running Windows 2000".

  35. Not surprising... by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

    most of thier stuff was overpriced and crap. if they did this about a year or two ago, when the market was fresh(or kind of fresh), we'd probably using Intel toasters with digital cameras to show you the level of toasting the bread's at

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    Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
  36. for all we know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it came from an outsource vendor in the first place :)

  37. The Intel Play microscope... by killthiskid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Intel play microscope goes up to 200x magnification... problem is, it has a cheap ass web-cam type video capture device...

    However, my nieces and nephews have easily gotten my money's worth of play out of this item, and it has spark more than enough questions/curiosity.

    While it is a low-fi item, with crap software, I would have to say that I have enjoyed owning it.

    Ever looked at the writing on an M&M? My nieces & nephews have... and it made them relieze many things...

  38. Radical concept... by killthiskid · · Score: 1

    Ok, I know one of the things plaguing OSS is the lack of diversity...

    What about starting a fund of some sort that could buy off (relatively) cheap sell offs of this sorts?

    I know there just have to be some geeks out there with money to burn!

    Seriously.

  39. Shouldn't that be... by Black+Art · · Score: 2

    Disney Kills Consumer Electronics?

    Wait a minute. That is the next story...

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    "Trademarks are the heraldry of the new feudalism."
  40. They aren't dropping just cameras and such... by thanq · · Score: 1
    but they are also discountinuing a wide range of consumer devices a'la audrey. It is interesting to note that...

    "Dot.Station, a countertop terminal powered by Red Hat Linux that lets people surf the Web, exchange emails and make phone calls." is one of them.

    It should be noted, that the hanhelds and the PC devices market is one that linux has a strong foothold in and surpasses any other OS.

    One could fear that witht he eclipse of these, the linux popularity could be crumbling very, very fast.

    I surely hope that wouldn't happen too fast and too much, but facts are out there, unfortunately...

  41. So will they release Source? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bought an intel usb webcam that just wont damn work with linux.

    patrick.best@telus.com

  42. Intel's Great Plan for Rambus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is just about as plausible as Intel's original plans to make Rambus their standard memory type across their whole line of CPU's.

    Do you remember when Rambus was supposed to take 90% of the DRAM market?

    There is nothing like a recession to bring the focus back to reality!