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Star Wars: AOTC Trailer on Monster Inc
FortKnox writes "Starwars.com has officially announced that Star Wars II: Attack of the Clones 'teaser' trailer will appear at the head of the new movie, Monsters, Inc. Other reports have the full trailer on Harry Potter, but this is still speculation. Ep-I DVD owners should be able to view the trailers on starwars.com once Monsters, Inc. hits theaters." Good thing I'm planning on seeing both of those movies anyway.
That Rowling guy must feel pretty good with the success of his books... in anticipation of the movie, my girlfriend and I have tried to read the Harry potter books, but they are not to be found in the library unless you reserve them, and they are completely unavailable in used book stores. I don't think i want to pay retail price for them (usually like $15) so i guess i'll just have to wait for the hype to die down.
"Good thing I'm planning on seeing both of [Harry Potter and Monsters, Inc.] anyway."
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Am I the only one who HASN'T read the Harry Potter books? I don't mean to sound like an arrogant prick (although I really am), but weren't these books written for little kids? I mean, sure, I enjoyed Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers and all when I was younger, but these days I barely watch any TV. So, my question is "What's the appeal of these childish stories to grown, sophisticated adults?".
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Well, it isn't really news, but this is a clear sign of what audience the movie is targeted at. These are both children's movies. Sure, as far as children's movies go, they have a lot of adult interest; that's what usually makes for a successful children's movie.
Now if they were targeting a more adult crowd, they would be trying to connect to Lord of the Rings.
Of course, it may just be a matter of what big movies are coming out at the right time.
Anyone who has the Ep 1 DVD knows they've been hyping November 9th. It was just kinda assumed that was the release date for the new teaser for Ep 2. Anyone check lately to see if 11/9 is still being promoted, or if they've changed that to 11/2 (the release date of Monsters Inc)?
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I guess you would then have a Beowulf Cluster of Natalie Portman... mmm...
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Lots of neat Star Wars ASCII art is available at this site for the curious... :)
Forgot to add the part about the DVD incompatibilities for Mac users of the Episode I DVD. Go figure, the site "Go2Mac" where a lot of the info is (or was linked from) is having some issues right now. Last I heard, the company that produced the DVD responded about it, but that's also on that site... :(
me no think fans of original be liking dumbed down sequels. methinks second-run matinee for AOTC (at best).
Slightly offtopic, but a question that I at least thought was interesting...
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I remember reading that tons of fans went to see 'Meet Joe Black' (I'm prettysure that's what it was) just to watch the Episode I trailer, and I'm guessing that the same will happen with 'Monsters, Inc.' (although 'Monsters, Inc.' is probably more enjoyable than than 'Meet Joe Black')
I wonder: how much of an effect do the new Star Wars trailers have on the grosses of the films that they appear in front of? I'm sure that the take from 'Meet Joe Black' was nicely boosted by those who walked out after the trailer
One of two possibilities. A) Lucas has lost his mind, B) he's waiting til the very last second to change the title. He did this in a few other Star Wars movies (possibly all) so that he could sue the sh*t out of people selling "official" Attack of the Clones merchandise. Anyway, I guess I have a good reaosn to see Monsters Inc. now (or at least the preveiews) :-).
There is no reasonable defense against an idiot with an agenda
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The first book is pretty light and features HP as an 11 year old boy. But each subsequent book is darker as Harry gets older (one year per book). The first time I read the 4th book (which I'm currently re-reading in anticipation of the movie and 5th book) I snuck it into my cubicle and work and spent the entire day reading it. It's that gripping.
So no, they aren't for "little kids". They are for children of various ages. Just like the Narnia and Alice books.
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First of all, J.K. Rowling is a woman. On a more relevant note, the Harry Potter series is a fascinating epic with many threads and topics that keep adults enthralled, myself included. My wife read the first one, and recommended it to me, and I thought, 'oh, ok, i'll succumb to the hype this once' but it was amazing, and the other three only get better. There are also parallels with Star Wars. Young boy of unusual ability lives with aunt and uncle from infancy due to parents' mysterious deaths at the hands of an unknown evil. These facts are revealed suddenly and the boy's world is changed forever, as he learns to tap his powers and fight evil, while gathering friends. A New Hope, or The Sorcerer's Stone? Both, actually.
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Be aware that there's a fake fan-trailer or two that have been circulating for months now. What you find on gnutella might not be the real thing.
Of course, then again it might be real -- according to many Internet rumor sites a lot of preview-audiences and movie-house projectionists have seen the new trailer..someone may have cammed it and digitzed it as was done with the Phantom Menace trailer before an official net version was posted.
Entertaining stories about an outsider/geek type kid. His parents were killed, he is now 11 years old, and it is time to fulfill his birthright.
I'm not sure why it is SO popular. I mean, they are entertaining stories, but I see nothing deep or profound in them.
My wife started reading them to find out what the kids were going on about (she's a teacher) and I picked them up, as I found out I was going to be taking her and infant son to the movie.
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Lots of children's books are excellent reading. "The Chronicles of Narnia" and "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" are great examples
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You get a special URL that works in conjunction with some proprietary Windows-browser that does some sort of checksum on the DVD-ROM disc (needs to be inserted in your computer's DVD drive).
There's already content on this DVD-ROM only site, still pictures from Episode 2, etc...The few people that have redistributed this content on publically accessible web-sites have, not surprisingly, been spanked by Lucasfilm.
In a word: Yes. There is also other content on starwars.com available only to Episode I DVD owners.
Unfortunately (depending on your point of view), I'm not enough of a fan to spend a lot of time on their web site. I watch the movies. I go to bed.
The next day, I watch the Pod Race with my 4 and 6 year old boys. Then I watch the Pod Race with my 4 and 6 year old boys again. Then I watch the Pod Race with my 4 and 6 year old boys again. Then I watch the Pod Race with my 4 and 6 year old boys again.
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Very strange though. This isn't the story I was looking for - there was another with actual details, and the reply(s) from the company producing the DVD. I've searched "Macsurfer" and although "star wars" brings up a bunch of hits, not the ones I had read a week or two ago. Were they erased? Were they moved? Got me.
To avoid the dreaded Off-Topic markdown, let me just mention that, as one of the DVD-owners, I have access to the Star Wars site; they're still hyping November 9th as far as I know. For the moment, they have what can only be described as a trailer for the trailer posted--a 7-meg Quicktime slideshow called "Choices" that shows images and posits such gripping questions as "What is the cost of failure?" and, my favorite, "What do droids worry about?"
Since Quicktimes can easily be downloaded, I expect you could find it on Gnutella by now. It's not all that great, but at least it's something.
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Attack of the Clones conjures up images of massive armies of robots marching across the landscape for as far as you can see. Is it just me or is this stuff getting a little old?
I propose that Lucas just makes a 2-3 hour movie of "breathtaking" effects like marching clones beating the crap out of each other until they explode. Once he gets that out of his system the remaining Star Wars movies could then focus primarily on something important...
like, oh...say... a decent story.
Or at the very least Natalie Portman disrobed, flaunting 16 luscious blue breasts.
Did I miss a previous story on this? Do you get a special key or something when you buy episode one so that you can view future trailers before they're allowed out to the general public?
Episode I owners have access to exclusive content on dvd.starwars.com. When you insert the Ep.1 DVD into a computer (Mac/Windows omly) it installs an Intervideo player. This player allows access to the exclusive content.
They have already posted a still photo Episode II montage called "Choices."
It's possible that this is what's available on Gnutella. Its a quicktime video, but, like I said, is comprised of still photos and some background music.--
For the book says, "We may be through with the past, but the past ain't through with us."
Return of the Jedi?
The Empire Strikes Back?
They are cool names only because you associate them with cool movies. They sound 'retro'. Today, audiences are very wary, if receptive at all, of 'camp' and in general, the 'pulpy' style. Lucas, if anything, is not bowing down to current trends in keeping the names of the movies in line with the original campy names. Unfortunately, I thnk audiences are far too cynical and pessimmistic to accept such campy names anymore, as evidenced by the furor over the name "Attack of the Clones". Personally, I think the more money you spend on something, the less likely people are going to accept camp as entertainment, especially since camp is one of the cheapest styles to infuse into movie productions. (Indeed, being 'campy' is partly defined as appearing articicial; thus, your sets/titling/acting need not be juiced for every possible production dollar.)
The media/advertising pipelines are more clogged than ever, and since camp is more often a tool used by lower budget productions (for obvious reasons), people are not hearing of movies that utilize camp very much, and consequently are not demanding it or appreciating it unless its associated with a previously prooven franchise (ie, Star Wars, Batman, Star Trek)
At least, thats my take on it.
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MegaCineCorp has announced the list of films showing the highly anticipated "teaser trailer" for the upcoming Hype Wars Episode N - Send in the Clones.
Studio spokesman, Rip Ewoff, was quoted as saying "after we milk those freeks for two full-price tickets, it should be just about time for them to get into line for the premeire".
MegaCineCorp President, Ernesto Palpatine, could not be reached for comment.
I'm willing to bet karma that the phrase "Attack of the Clones" will not appear anywhere in the trailer. :)
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Star Wars Episode II: When Clones Attack
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Is there any indication (I mean George Lucas certified) on what the true nature of the clone wars is? In A New Hope, the clone wars are briefly mentioned. As I recall that's the only mention of them. In the tense they're used, we assume that it's a pivotal point, and it's pretty much guaranteed (and expected) that EP2 or Ep3 will be about the clone wars.
Anyway, my point in all this rambling is whether or not anyone knows anything about the true nature of the clone wars. Is it true "clones" of something? Is it a band of dark side rebels that ends up seducing Anakin in some way? (my guess). "Attack of the clones" just sounds a little misleading. Maybe it's just a psychological thing, like "attack of the clowns" or "send in the clowns" or something.
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My partner has seen Monsters, Inc. due to having friends who manage a movie theater. There is, in fact, a trailer for Episode II on the front end of it.
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Needless to say, I'm also jealous as hell that she saw it and I didn't.
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.. I have done so with a conscious effort. I refuse to buy into the commercialism. =)
That Rowling guy must feel pretty good with the success of his books...
J(oanne) K(athleen) Rowling is probably very happy with HER success. Unlike many authors who have had their stories ported to the screen, she has a huge amount of creative control over the Chris Columbus directed Harry Potter movie.
Here is the best FAQ I have seen about her and her rise: http://www.geocities.com/jkrfaq/bio.html
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The second is even more tantilizing... it's a full review of the movie, allegedly based on the second editied version. That can be found here:
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=10528
Enjoy.
Having seen the Star Wars movies as a kid, the TPM trailer gave me chills. "wow, just like the previous" movies. It was so perfect, so slick, I couldn't get over it. Then I saw the movie and _yikes_ was it horrible. Did I just grow up or was TPM just plain embarrassing? Sadly I think that you needed to be nine years old to appreciate it.
I hated Phantom Menance - not just because it was a kid's movie, but because it forced me to realize, as a 28 year old, that the first three weren't amazing films in my mind because they were amazing films, but because I saw them when I was in grade school.
I personally thought that, apart from some truly fantastic action sequences (the lightsaber battles, the pod race), The Phantom Menace really brought out the quality of Episodes 4-6. While they too were cartoony, they really had an "edge" that TPM lacked - especially Empire of course but even Jedi had some truly dark moments and mature drama. Episode 1 generally lacked these. Not to mention that compared to the freezing wasteland Hoth or the arid beauty of Tatooine, the CGI Naboo looked like ass...
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According to the popular theories, the clones are basically a precursor to the Empire's stormtrooper army. Basically, the theory goes that the entire stormtrooper army is really just a bunch of clones of one guy, specifically, Boba Fett, or rather, Fett's father.
Apparently, Boba Fett is actually the clone of Jango Fett, who in turn was used as the "father" of the clone army.
Why the big deal with clones? Well, based on the post-original trilogy Heir To The Empire books, the Emperor is pretty adept at controlling large groups of people. Of course, the droid armies used in TPM are useless 'cause they aren't alive, and the Emperor can't control them directly. However, he could control a large group of clones. Something to do with the Force, I guess.
So the clone wars is apparently the beginning of the end for the Republic, with the Emperor (or Senator Palpatine at any rate) at the head of the clone army.
A lot of post-original trilogy stuff from Dark Horse Comics and the novels and such played with clones constantly. In the wicked-cool Dark Empire comics series from Dark Horse, the Emperor returned in a clone of himself. The blue flash the erupted as Vader tossed the Emperor down a shaft at the end of Return of the Jedi was apparently the Emperor's consciousness being released, on its way to a new clone.
The Heir to the Empire series also had a bunch of clones, including clone generators and such. A Jedi clone in that series (Joruus C'Boath, or something to that effect), tried to replace the Emperor as head of the crumbling Empire. I think Luke was cloned, too, as Luuke or something, an evil clone of some sorts.
According to the books and comics, clones are pretty unstable folk and prone to insanity. Joruus was pretty insane.
It's been a while since I've read any of that stuff, though, so I might be a bit cloudy on the details. But that's what I make from most of the lore and the rumors going around.
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Man, I know too much about this crap.
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Disney is the company that bankrolled the SSSCA. It will be quite a long time before I do anything that might be seen as beneficial to them.
I don't really care what trailers they include. Some things are more important.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
I take it you mean 6.1, not 7.1.
But anyway, the optimizer is there also for video stuff, which is probably more valuable than the audio optimization.
Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?
Can anyone suggest a website that will have the trailer besides starwars.com? I assume that someone will save it from starwars.com and post it elsewhere...
Working for Pixar and seeing the trailer first... how luckey can you get!
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That being said, Harry Potter seems to be mostly preteen wish fulfillment with a slight Orwellian flavor. Orwell had a very similar masochistic writing style (Except his characters never had a chance.) The writing is as formulaic as Saturday Morning cartoons, and about as literary. On the plus side, it does piss the Baptists off and anything that pisses the Baptists off is a good thing in my book. It's also encouraging the kids to read, which is also a good thing, and sometimes you just want the literary equivalent of a slice of pie. After a week of digging through XML books, you really don't want to schlog through anything too heavy.
Take what I say with a grain of salt though. I also despise CS Lewis, which is the literary equivalent of having a metaphor pounded into your head with a 2x4. Also, any Disneyesque story where children overcome hideously inept adult villians. That pretty well limits the children's literature that I'll be feeding my kids.
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It may well be that the publishers wanted to go with J.K. and "not scaring off the boys" may very well be the reason. But your post gives the impression that this is somehow dishonest. The fact is, Rowling goes by, and always has gone by, "JK" to the extent that her family calls her "Jake".
I'll also note that "J.K. Rowling" is mellifluous whereas "Joanne K Rowling" is less so.
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Anyone thought of getting a petition drive to ban corporate campaign donations? It's the only way the people will recover any influence in the Government.
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Remember, Lucas was a prime mover and shaker behind DiVX (or however it was capitalized). He's definately one of the Bad Guys where IP is concerned.
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Remeber that simpson's episode where Flander's was reading to his kids?
"And then Harry Potter and all his friends went straight to hell for practicing witch-craft. The End."
There has long been a debate as to whether stormtroopers were actual people or what, we know that the suits can be removed. So Maybe the clones are inside of them.
"Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper?" Perhaps they are all supposed to be the same height...
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Hmmm... I thought we were all pretty much in agreement not to give the RIAA and MPAA any more money untill they learn to play nicely with others. I haven't given them a dime in 2 years thanks to Mp3s and VCDs...
I sure hope none of you go to see either of these films, when you can watch them in the comfort of your own home theater, for the price of a couple blank CDs.
This was e-mailed from my friend who is a big movie fan (Thanks Spaceman Spiff!):
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Subject: 3 SWE2 trailers coming
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:58:02 -0800
Found this at Coming Attractions...
The first trailer, dubbed the "Breathing" teaser, will definitely run
attached to all prints of Monsters, Inc. on November 2nd.
The second trailer, slated to appear online at the official Star Wars
website, will debut November 9th.
The third trailer, longer and containing more adult-oriented material than
the first teaser trailer, will be attached to Harry Potter and the
Sorcerer's Stone on November 16th.
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Amen brother. Even a bad si-fi like TPM is better than that stuff.
(+1 Funny) only if I laugh out loud.
I guess so, but then again, since the clones were mentioned in "A New Hope", "Attack of the Clones" isn't all that different from "Return of the Jedi" in the respect that both Jedi and Clones are entities of the SW universe. Obviously, Jedi is a far more explicit SW reference than "clones" is.
I think you have a valid point, although I believe my original comment about camp going out of style is still valid and applicable to at least a part of a public reaction to the title of the movie.
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I think you overestimate the power of Steve. As of now, Macintosh users can't even access the DVD-ROM content of most discs (including Episode I), despite the fact that Apple did huge cross promotion for the film. He either doesn't have the power, or doesn't care.
Hmmm, I would disagree with you about those points. From the Star Wars fiction I have read about Boba Fett, he was originally Jaster Mereel, a Journeyman Protector on the planet Concord Dawn, and he was banished for killing a fellow protector for unknown reasons (reasons that the best defense lawyer on the planet say may have been deserved). He served time as a stormtrooper before leaving the Imperial forces and starting out as a bounty hunter.
Lastly, stormtroopers are citizens conscripted from Empire planets into Imperial service. They are not clones, aside from the clones that Grand Admiral Thrawn created during that triology of books.
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I've also read a few of his short stories which also rubbed me the wrong way. Of course, I'm the kind of guy who roots for the dragon.
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