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Star Wars II (Attack of the clones) Trailer

tjansen writes "The Episode II Trailer is available. You need be a starwars.com member to watch it and must have installed the Quicktime plugin though." I guess thats 2 strikes against me. Glad I saw it in front of Monsters Inc.

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  1. no membership required... go here by AtaruMoroboshi · · Score: 5, Informative


    http://www.apple.com/trailers/

    1. Re:no membership required... go here by ryanr · · Score: 3, Informative

      The large version requires Quicktime pro. That sucks.

    2. Re:no membership required... go here by John_Booty · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yes! Thank you! I, for one, find signing up for free things exceedingly annoying. If it's free, WHO CARES WHO I AM? And even if it's not free? Oh, well. Thanks!

      I have more of a problem giving out my personal information for things I AM paying for. Like when Radio Shack, or some other stores, ask you for your address after a purchase, so they can mail you spam, I suppose.

      I don't like having to sign up for free stuff either, but I guess I feel like I've got no right to complain, since I'm not paying for it. Usually I just choose to not sign up for it, or I use fake information.

      It really depends on the situation. In the case of the AOTC teaser, I dont want to give out my personal information just to watch advertising. That's silly. On the other hand, I didn't have a problem giving a fairly large amount of personal information to AMD after I won a sweet Athlon 1800XP and motherboard combo at one of their giveaways. :)

      Still, running a website isn't free though, it's actually quite expensive. Some things on the web are worth giving up a little harmless personal info for, if that's all they're charging you for a valuable service (I wouldn't put the AOTC trailer into this category however). Just keep that in mind...

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    3. Re:no membership required... go here by Mr_Perl · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just give Radio Shack your current address, the address of the store. What can they say?

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    4. Re:no membership required... go here by cetan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well yes. There's always going to be "the stupids" moderating....but it seems that lately, there seems to be a more concentrated effort to mod down good quality posts. I don't know if it's just me seeing things (or wanting to see things) but the concentration seems "higher" somehow.

      Anyway, at least there still are some intelligent people with mod points to balance...

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    5. Re:no membership required... go here by x31337x · · Score: 2, Flamebait

      TFN has it also no membership required
      http://download.theforce.net/theater/episode2/ep 2_ large.mov

    6. Re:no membership required... go here by jilles · · Score: 2

      or use one of the p2p solutions. I'm currently downloading it using morpheus. Probably it is also available on the gnutella network.

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    7. Re:no membership required... go here by ksheff · · Score: 2

      Tried it. It still points to the one requiring QT 5 pro. Clicking on it sends me to the Apple Store.

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  2. saw at monsters, inc by cloudmaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I saw it at the front of that movie too. I was glad that there was a movie after the trailer, and that I hadn't gone just to see the trailer. The trailer doesn't make me want to see ATOTC, as it's more of a slideshow than a real trailer. Not that Lucas really needs to show anything other than a lightsaber to get the fans to go see it... :)

    1. Re:saw at monsters, inc by cloudmaster · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Do people actually go to a movie JUST to see the "coming attractions"? That'd be extremely pathetic...

      I've heard that it happens... *I* wanted to go see Monsters, Inc because of the truly amazing rendering. That big fluffy one with the hair looks like a real puppet in a lot of the shots. The individually rendered hairs on him and really amazing texturing most everywhere else are freaking incredible. The lifelike movement is generally very good as well. The story is decent (but then, I like cartoons anyway), but I went to see some first-class computer animation. It was just a little bonus that there was supposed to be a cool trailer before the movie (though, the trailer wasn't nearly as cool as those seen for the phantom menace). Anyway, if you go, pay attention to the fabrics in motion (like curtains and some clothing) and to the hairs on hairy monsters - especially how they bend around his muscles when he moves and in the scenes where he's moving very quickly. The physics are very well done in that movie.

    2. Re:saw at monsters, inc by cloudmaster · · Score: 2

      I think it's just easier to make a realistic looking toy than a realistic person, as it doesn't have to look just like your uncle ernie. The toy/monster paradigm makes cool effects more belivable, as well. Could a person stick a handful of eyes on their face or turn invisible belivably? Besides, how do you know that monster eyes *don't* actully look like that? ;)

  3. Available without registering at Star Wars by schwanerhill · · Score: 3, Informative

    apple.com/trailers/. You still need the QuickTime plugin.

    1. Re:Available without registering at Star Wars by Cutriss · · Score: 2

      QuickTime Pro is only needed for the Large clip. You can view the small/medium clips with QuickTime.

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    2. Re:Available without registering at Star Wars by .pentai. · · Score: 2

      Get the medium clip, use wget to grab it, and play it through the latest quicktime under wine. Works for me atleast, with only minor UI glitches, but the movies are very watchable.

  4. In truth, a teaser by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is actually what the movie industry calls a 'teaser'. In todays movie industry, a trailer is the Cliff Notes version of the movie.

    This teaser, on the other hand, is a series of snapshots of different scenes where some fx has been completed. It requires no music, editing, and is basically the cheapest, fastest thing Lucasfilm can put out at this point.

    1. Re:In truth, a teaser by cvd6262 · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is actually what the movie industry calls a 'teaser'.

      Agreed.

      The video file is 1:07 long, but after I cut out the Fox and Lucasfilm titles, and the end Star Wars logo, and then removed all of the blank screen, I was left with (I kid you not) 25 seconds of video.

      Here are the files:

      The whole 640 trailer

      The one I edited

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    2. Re:In truth, a teaser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I mirrored your file (hasn't seen it, don't know if defect or something like that). It's here:



      http://www.fys.ku.dk/~soren/e2/epII_Long.mov

      Enjoy!?!

  5. They Know! by under_score · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its disgusting how well they know how to get me. That teaser rips through my consciousness and grabs hold of my emotions instantly. I grew up with Star Wars. "A New Hope" came out when I was 5 - my dad took me to it. I'm not a huge raving fan, but the trailer gets me. Two things in particular: the breathing (!) scours my emotional memories, and the shot of Anakin and Amidala by the dome house brings up founts of anticipated grief!

    ARG!!!

    I hope that the story isn't ruined. Lucas came close with Ep. I. Please.

    1. Re:They Know! by zeus_tfc · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...and the shot of Anakin and Amidala by the dome house brings up founts of anticipated grief!

      ANAKIN!! DON'T!! She's you SIST...
      Doh! Sorry, wrong movie.

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  6. Direct link to the file by BoyPlankton · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can download it from here: http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/img/sw_ctp _320.mov

    Should be a link to the medium sized file. The large one requires QuickTime pro.

  7. Use the Crossoverplugin to play Quicktime w. Linux by tarkin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Use this Crossover plugin from Codeweavers to play the Quicktime movies under Linux ! It uses wine and works great under Mozilla / Galeon / Netscape.

    I just saw the trailer with it ... yowza ;-)

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  8. I, for one, do not want to see it! by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Flamebait
    I want to go into the theater without any ideas what I'm going to see. Trailers, being the spoilers that they often are, often drive me from seeing a film because I can figure out the story, which is often "attitude" + "fireballs" + "stupid plot", etc.

    Granted this is a Star Wars movie, which I'm required by the Geek Code to see, so I'll go see it when it comes out. Until then it'll be stepping through a mine field of films trying to avoid seeing it. Thanks for the warning about it preceeding Monsters, Inc.

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    1. Re:I, for one, do not want to see it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hate to spoil it for you but Anakin becomes Darth Vader, his son is Luke. Luke and Vader have a fight and afterwards Vader kill the emperor to save his Luke.

    2. Re:I, for one, do not want to see it! by ekrout · · Score: 2

      CmdrTaco (from `cmdrtaco.net'): "I plan to complain on Slashdot that Disney, AOL-TW, and Fox -- coincidentally the companies who will be making money off Monsters, Inc., Harry Potter, and Star Wars Episode II, respectively -- are using their vast monetary resources to purchase laws in the United States Congress. The irony of blasting these movie studios repeatedly on my website and then in the same breath praising and promoting their movies is apparently totally lost on me."

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  9. Teaser? by Knunov · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe I've become numb to such teasing in my old age, but the trailer did nothing to whet my appetite.

    The least they could have done was included a cutaway shot of Natalie's robe falling to the floor, just before her bare, firm buttocks appeared.

    I just teased myself into petrification. I'll be back in a few minutes.

    Knunov

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  10. Looks alot like the 'fan' trailer... by Bonker · · Score: 2

    ... that got so much interest a while back. I remember reading something that the producer of that trailer said... that mostly he just looked for various 'head turn' shots, and incorporated them into his trailer.

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  11. Reverse expectations? by cvd6262 · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    I heard a lot of people whine that one reason Episode I was such a disappointment was that the trailer rocked.

    I guess Lucas figured out that he could make a less-than-impressive trailer so people wouldn't be so disappointed.

    PS - I don't think I saw this much face-sucking in the other 4 movies combined.

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    1. Re:Reverse expectations? by Yet+Another+Smith · · Score: 2

      Yeah, over-hyping a mediocre movie is a recipe for hatred, a lesson that Waterworld illustrated perfectly.

      But honestly, I thought Jedi sucked, and I hadn't seen any trailers, mostly because the plot wasn't as strong, and the ewoks were lame. I'd have thought it was fine, but it was being compared to the first two. Although the ewoks really were the poisoned pill.

      EP1 had the same problem. I wouldn't have liked it if it had been the first movie, and I'd never have seen the trailer. It was devoid of ideas and full of empty gimmicks. Marketing is a distant second to craft.

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    2. Re:Reverse expectations? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

      > EP1 had the same problem. I wouldn't have liked it if it had been the first movie, and I'd never have seen the trailer. It was devoid of ideas and full of empty gimmicks. Marketing is a distant second to craft.
      Skill without imagination is craftsmanship and gives us many useful objects such as wicker-work picnic baskets. Imagination without skill gives us modern art. (Tom Stoppard)
      And sequels and prequels, I might add.

      On an almost related note, Salon is currently an article about the so-called Phantom Edit of E1.
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  12. From a Star Wars Universe Point of View by _J_ · · Score: 5, Interesting


    The Phantom Premise caused me concern in that I found it hard to reconcile what I was seeing with what I understood the SW universe to be.

    The clips in the Episode II trailer (send in the clones for anyone who remembers an RPG game called Paranoia) make me think that Lucas could bring the story back.

    Maybe it's just wistful thinking, but scenes of Ewan McGregor with a beard looking older and wiser and Hayden Christianson - who won't be shouting "Yippeee" - looking to do a servicable job as Anakin make me think that Lucas could get it right this time. And finally to see the explanation of the Clone Wars. Children growing into Storm Troopers. Finally we will see how Palpatine seized power.

    I had high hopes for the first one too, I hope I won't be disappointed again.

    IMHO, as per,
    J:)

    1. Re:From a Star Wars Universe Point of View by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Who f'ing cares?

      This Ed Wood titled piece of crap is going to totally sUx0r- and we all know it.

      Gee, maybe we'll get some more LAME DRAG RACES, goofy KID-FRIENDLY ALIENS that should all be sent to the camps with the EWOKS, chase scenes with really big fish in which the SAME GODDAMNED NEAR-MISS OCCURS THREE TIMES IN A ROW, more INANE JAR JAR(ack), low-level shibboleths about symboisis as a SOP TO PC, and some love story that would be constitute statuatory rape in all states save for west virginia and delaware. I like how Lucas and Co. relased the rumors last week about Natalie Portman appearing partially nude in this episode- the only way he's going to get geeks back onboard the Star Wars bandwagon after The Phantom Plot. Ooh, meesa hornay.

      Will more Siths drive around on their gay Darth Maul scooters? Will that kid's acting convey any emotion other than 'yippee?' Will Natalie Portman's acting have matured beyond her three emotions (stoic, worried, and happy)?

      WILL WARFARE BE SANITIZED, PC, and BLOODLESS? Will the only things that die in battle be asinine robots that say, "roger, roger?"

      And are unlucky audiences going to get treated to more REALLY FAKE LOOKING COMPUTER GENERATED GRAPHICS?

    2. Re:From a Star Wars Universe Point of View by MindStalker · · Score: 3, Funny

      I could be wrong. But did you just insult Ed Wood??!! *Slaps you with a large trout*

  13. Damn! There's Jar-Jar by cvd6262 · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    About half way through, there's a shot of a rather pensive Mace Windu, with Yoda behind him facing the other way.

    Yoda is looking at an approaching group. Among them are the Queen (Natalie Portman!), and Jar-Jar Binks.

    I think I'll wait for the DVD.

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    1. Re:Damn! There's Jar-Jar by Jboy_24 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I made the move to Silicon Valley and ran into a friend here. We were comparing notes on who from our school in Vancouver (ECIAD) made it down. We started talking about one guy who was a great animator and got a job at I.L.M.! Instantly we felt envious.

      Turns out he has to animate Jar Jar ....

      Poor, poor guy.... I feel sooo sorry for him.

    2. Re:Damn! There's Jar-Jar by NutscrapeSucks · · Score: 2

      Lucas sits on a farm up in Marin county and has surround himself with yes-man nerds that do nothing but kiss his ass all day so that they can play with the latest Avid and ProTools or whatever.

      He's got no Irving Kirshner Hollywood Battleaxe around to tell him that his ideas are cornball (and borderline racist) and that his plots make no sense. So, he does whatever he wants to, his nerd henchmen think his ideas are great because they involve lots of computers. The result is big suckbomb movies that appeal to neither kids, nor the Comic Book Guys who still idolize the movies they saw as childern, nor the broader audience as a whole.

      That being said, JarJar wasn't the worst idea dramatically. He played the role of C3P0 in the originals -- to communicate what was going on to the kids in the audience in simple terms. The problem was that he was massively overplayed and, worse, 3CP0 was still in the movie, and even worse (from Lucas' wallet's perspective), Darth Maul got about 30 seconds of screen time.

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    3. Re:Damn! There's Jar-Jar by selectspec · · Score: 2

      What a crock of sh$t. Lucas paid for the Episode I film and could have cut it any damn way he wanted. This DVD - director's cut - is just a bunch of marketeering BS to get you to buy the DVD even though you thought the film version was tripe bathos.

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    4. Re:Damn! There's Jar-Jar by revscat · · Score: 2

      I saw a news segment a while ago about the guys (yes, all men) in NYC who's job is to go check out the huge freaking sewers that come out of the Manhattan whenever they get clogged, pipes that are big enough to stand in full of human excrement. Yes, it is as nasty as it sounds. Their job is to be walking fecal decompactors.

      I'd rather be one of those guys than your buddy who is animating Jar-Jar. At least then I wouldn't be embarrased about my job.

  14. ASCIIvision? by Calle+Ballz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Could someone make a sort of quick & dirty java ASCII knockoff of this trailer? I'm at work right now and I don't have the administrative privelages to install the software to view this, so I have to wait until I get home, but that is in 6 hours and I don't know if I can wait that long!!!

    *desperately awaiting new star wars footage*

    1. Re:ASCIIvision? by acroyear · · Score: 3, Interesting

      actually, i want the south park version...the south park edition of the Phantom Menace trailer is still one of the funniest 'net downloads i've got.

      Though Troops has its moments, too...

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    2. Re:ASCIIvision? by interiot · · Score: 2

      I'm at work too, but if someone can convert it to mpeg1, this will convert it from mpeg1 to ascii.

  15. Dark Horizons has links to .mpg versions by iainl · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those either on Linux and unable to, or just hate Quicktime for some reason, Dark Horizons has links to these four mirror sites in .mpg format. Note that these seem pretty hosed as well though...

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    1. Re:Dark Horizons has links to .mpg versions by ksheff · · Score: 2

      The quicktime movies work just fine on linux with the CodeWeavers CrossOver plugin. I view movie trailers on Apple's site all the time from within Galeon, Mozilla, or Netscape.

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  16. No Refunds at Monsters Inc. by Nos. · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Went to see Monsters Inc. this weekend at a local Famous Players theatre. There was a note up at the ticket counter saying there would be no refunds to tickets purchased for Monsters Inc because of the SW Ep2 Trailer.

    1. Re:No Refunds at Monsters Inc. by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      A friend of mine told me that he went to one of the very early screenings of The Matrix, and there were a whole slew of Star Wars freaks who watch the Ep1 trailer and then left.

      Little did they realize that they left a movie that was, oh, 10 times better?

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    2. Re:No Refunds at Monsters Inc. by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      Don't know if these google group links will work for you, but I found at least two people talking about it...

      Number 1

      Number 2

      If they don't go through, try searching for "matrix saw episode 1 trailer". Why were you so sure that it wasn't shown with The Matrix?

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  17. Re: QuickTime *5*, mind you... by zaren · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's also the fact that QuickTime 5 is needed to view any of these trailers/teasers. Something of a pain, since I can't upgrade past QT4 on this locked-down-piece-of-an-NT-box they gave me at work...

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  18. Star Wars II / QuickTime / Crossover plug-in by peel · · Score: 2, Informative
    I just got done watching this trailer on my linux box. Yes it was from the Star Wars site and in QuickTime. So everyone who keeps complaining about not being able to view QT on linux.. buck up and get the crossover plug-in from codeweavers, and stop complaining. I do not work for them nor do I have any affiliation with them but I work on macs everyday at work and quicktime is a part of my life. Lack of QuickTime has always been my biggest gripe about Linux. But now it is no longer. That's just my two cents.

    go get crossover plug-in, watch quicktime on linux, stop complaining, smile.

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  19. There is no New Hope by Pope · · Score: 2, Interesting

    AFAIC, there is no movie called "A New Hope."
    It's "Star Wars," no extra anything. Lucas added that only after Empire came out to make it look more like a continuing series than a one-shot deal that hit paydirt.
    He said at the time that it cost $15 million to make, and expected and get about $25 at the box office, if he was lucky. He got *real* lucky. :)

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    1. Re:There is no New Hope by T.+Will+S.+Idea · · Score: 2, Interesting

      At the time that Star Wars was released it was widely known that this was the 4th in a series of nine stories. There was a lot of buzz about it because the idea of a prequel was strange to people at the time. I think that "A New Hope" was not part of the title on the movie posters, but I think that it appeared at the head of scrolling text that begins the movie.

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  20. That's a good approach: by mblase · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...not *all* trailers spoil the entire plot for a movie. But some do. And in my experience, the ones that do that do so because they had to scrounge the entire film in order to find enough interesting, amazing, or funny bits to make a trailer. Once you've seen the trailer, you've seen all the bits worth watching. (Commercials for sitcoms work much the same way.)

    Case in point: Disney threw in a trailer for their theatrical sequel to "Peter Pan," cleverly entitled "Return to Neverland." It involves Wendy's daughter and the entire Neverland cast of the original movie, and apparently some Wacky Adventures. Based on that (and, admittedly, my previous experience with non-Pixar Disney sequels), I now know everything I need to know about this movie. My wife and daughter can go see it themselves in February; I know for a fact I won't be missing anything.

    If they don't provide an entire plot to you, then you're probably safe going to see it. There will be enough surprises to make it worth your $7.50. Otherwise, take a pass and wait for the Rotten Tomatoes rating to come in.

  21. Bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its too late I know, but Im really beginning to believe this prequel idea was a horribly bad one. I dont see Episode 2 being much better.

    Plot: Episode I sets up the plot for the next film, but without much conviction. How can we see Anakin freeing the slaves, with "Yippee" in our minds. They will need a heavy dose of the Jedi Mind Trick (TM) to get us to forget so much of the flaws of the previous film.

    Characters: After the 1st film, we dont have a good association with any of the characters. Anakin was a child, and we had a difficult time understanding the kid. Amidala was always shifting from Queen to friend and back, so we dont really know the real Amidala. Qui Gon is dead, Yoda and Mace were introduced to us like we've known them for ages. The only one we have the slighest insight into would be Kenobi and Binks (sad but true). As such, we really arent motivated to learn more about them.

    Lack of surprises: The first trilogy succeeded because we WANTED to know what Jabba looked like. Had to wait 3 movies to find out. 3 movies to see the evil and dreaded Emperor (minus the teaser in Empire). 3 movies to find out about Leia...3 to find out what was under the mask. Episode 1 throws it all out on the table. Midichlorians cause the Force, Emperor in-you-face, etc. I dont see the room for the great plot twists of the originals.

    Special Effects: George is hooked on 3d. And it truly sucks. The models used in the originals made it the best special effects ever, and blows away anything they can do today on computers. I dont want to go see on the big screen what Star Trek manages to do on the little screen. After Episode 1, the awe of the space adventure has been cheap-nd. And with the investment in Jar Jar, it shows no sign of going away.

    Episode 2 is as doomed to fail as was #1. It may have a more adult theme, but the "magic" of Empire will not be there. And its all because of Episode 1.

    Can 3 fix all this? Perhaps but still not likely. 3's problem will be continuity. Its clear Lucas hasnt thought his plots out, and as such by the time 3 rolls around, the continuity will be completely hosed. It will be fun to hear James Earl Jones again, but those kinds of things are the only things that will make it worth watching.

    Besides, when you know how the outcome will be, how can we be expected to side with the protagonist? Is this movie going to be about Anakin, or more about Kenobi? Ep 1 had us on Anakin's side. Somewhere in 2, we HAVE to make a switch to siding with Kenobi. This is awkward, and will lose quite a few.

    They should have kept on going after Return of the Jedi. Make the final 3 movies instead of the first 3.

    1. Re:Bad idea by bribecka · · Score: 2

      . I dont see the room for the great plot twists of the originals.

      That probably explains why you spend your days posting on slashdot as an AC while George Lucas is a multi-billionaire.

      The models used in the originals made it the best special effects ever, and blows away anything they can do today on computers.

      Please, get real. The SFX from 1977 blow away the SFX in Phantom Menace? Say what you want about Ep1, but the SFX was not one of the weak points. I guess you forgot how in the original Star Wars, a group of 3 fighters had to move absolutely in sync (ie. battle at the Death Star).

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    2. Re:Bad idea by malducin · · Score: 2

      Lack of surprises!!! Well that depends if you look out for spoilers on the Internet. I tried to stay spoler free as much as possible, and I did my "mom" test, I asked her and she didn't know anything except for what she see on the trailers. Some people have a "fast food" instant gratification mentality but there are many others wanting to be surprised. Your other points are subjective they are valid opinions, but they are not certainties. I mean have you ever played with a little brother or nephew? They talk like that aand I don't see how just saying Yipee will later prevent someone from growing up and doing stuff. As I said a valid opinion but there are others. Just let Lucas make his movie.

      yeah like the previous poster said, first check the facts before making such bold statements.

      Episode 1 was the biggest project the ILM model dept. has undertaken. There are tons of models in there, from battle tanks, spaceships, set pieces, practiacl elements and interiors. Just check out the Beginning documentary in the DVD or better yet the best source of info, Cinefex issue 78:

      Cinefex issue 78

      Too bad the official site is kinda hosed, you could check some there.

    3. Re:Bad idea by Happy+Monkey · · Score: 2

      EP1 SFX quality is better than the original trilogy, but I'd have to give the design award to the originals. The spacecraft and "grunt" robots were remarkably uninteresting in Phantom Menace. The only exception I can think of is that donut ship. The non-grunt rolling robot was pretty cool, too.

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  22. Direct Link by macdaddy · · Score: 3, Flamebait

    Here's the direct link to the larger movie. NOTE: They appear to have done something funky with the web server to first check to see if you have QuickTime 5.0 before they let you download anything. If you do not have 5.0, you will not get to download the movie. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a packet sniffer though. :-) The large movie is 12.1MB. Looks more like a slideshow to me though.

    1. Re:Direct Link by kindbud · · Score: 2

      Actually, that is not a direct link. It's a link to binary file of some kind containing a pointer to the actual movie file out on Akamai's network. If you do not have QT5Pro, it still prompts you to upgrade before downloading the file from Akamai.

      I may be in violation of the DMCA for having used the notorious hacker program strings(1), but here is the Akamai link I found in the pointer file downloaded from the link above. Hope Apple doesn't sue.

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    2. Re:Direct Link by macdaddy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Flamebait? I hate it when newbie on crack get mod points.

  23. Here is the audio by Whatever+Fits · · Score: 5, Funny

    poooooooohhhh
    paaaaaaaahhhh
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    paaaaaaaahhhh
    poooooooohhhh
    paaaaaaaahhhh
    poooooooohhhh
    paaaaaaaahhhh
    .....
    Followed by a lightsaber crash....

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  24. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by macdaddy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps it's not a lightsaber at all but a Moodsaber®. It's green when he's around big, handsome and studly Obi-Wan, blue around the other guy that doesn't swing that way, and purple around the princess....

  25. Re:Direct Link [MOD Parent Up] by ecampbel · · Score: 2

    Thanks, that link worked great!
    The quality is oustanding. Best video I've ever seen on the Mac; it easily surpasses DVD video. Go Sorenson 3!

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  26. QuickTime for Linux by update() · · Score: 5, Interesting
    CodeWeavers makes the CrossOver plugin to view QuickTime under Linux. It costs $20, but for all the complaining about the absence of a Linux viewer, I'm sure there'll be a healthy market, right? Right?

    I submitted this as an article when it was announced but it was rejected. Apparently, weekly articles complaining about editors' inability to run QuickTime (while they're happily playing one Windows-only game after another) is News For Nerds, but a solution isn't.

  27. Apple: Oh What a sweet deal! by Sixty4Bit · · Score: 2

    So, after about 15 minutes of download install download install, I finally get a message from the Star Wars site: To view this you must have Quick Time Pro. Click here to upgrade.

    Gees, another upgrade... off to Apple's site I go (again) and what's this? $29.95 ?!!? TO see a TRAILER!! SCREW THAT!!

    Please, someone tell me that I am wrong, that I missed something, that I don't have to PAY to see a trailer. Please, because this is just killing me that Lucas would think his followers would PAY to see this trailer.

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  28. How to teaser in Mac OS X 10.1 by silly+window · · Score: 2, Informative

    Click link on website to play teaser. After teaser is downloaded go to your /tmp/501/Temporary Items/ directory. There should be a QTPluginTemp* file in the directory. Copy the file as a .mov file. I don't know if /tmp/501 is the same for all OS X systems, but the cached file will definitely be in there somewhere.

  29. Down with corporations! Except Lucasfilm. by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 3, Troll

    It's always amusing to see the dichotomy between Slashdotters blindly hating all corporations (Borland is giving their C++ compiler away for free, but not the source code! They are evil; down with Borland!) and the love of various other corporations, like AMD, Paramount, Lucasfilm, FOX, and so on.

  30. Saw it at Monsters, Inc as well by maddman75 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Went to take my 2 year old to see Monsters, got treated to this teaser as well as a longer trailer for LOTR.

    When she saw the lightsabers, she said "Hey! That's my Daddy's movie!"

    The force is strong in this one....

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  31. They used the wrong music!!! by Mustang+Matt · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was hoping to hear Weird Al Yankovic's "I think I'm a clone now" song as the background instead of the typical Star Wars type music.

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  32. Re:Apple.com slashdotted again by hearingaid · · Score: 2

    Apple hasn't stopped using Akamai. Go to the Apple homepage, all the images are on Akamai.

    My guess is that the Akamai charge was a little too much for Apple to absorb, given that many of these trailers are remarkably large.

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  33. Don't rush out and download it by jlv · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As mentioned, it's just a teaser. Except that it isn't much of a teaser, either.

    There isn't much of anything shown. Most of the teaser is "fade in from black, show something for 2 seconds, fade out to black".

    In fact, it was a large let down. If you go to the effort to download it, you'll just be sorry. Even a diehard fan of the series should agree with that!

    We saw the teaser with Monsters, Inc. Now, that rocked!

    Of the 4 trailers attached to it, Clones was the most second most forgettable; the other being some lame computer animated movie called Ice Age about a band of prehistoric animals saving a human child from the ice age. Lame.

    Two good things were shown with Monsters, Inc.

    - the trailer for Fellowship of the Ring. While I can't wait for this, I felt the trailer did not do the story justice. (and I'd already downloaded this, too)

    - the Pixar short For The Birds. This is hilarious! If you feel like downloading something, then go to http://www.pixar.com/shorts/ftb/index.html and see the first half of it. You won't be sorry!

  34. Oh Please! Please! by dmaxwell · · Score: 2

    I hope there is a nice lovingly drawn out and detailed scene featuring Jar Jar and an interrogation droid. Maybe it can jab that syringe into his tongue. It could be a sort of Clockwork Jar Jar thingy. If EPII turns out to be nothing more than yet another sappy melodrama with great special effects then I'll still pay to see it if there is a decent torture Jar Jar scene. What would really backfire and add to the tastiness is if the torture scene is supposed to be a dramatic emotional moment. The cheesy orchestra music can play up the wincing of the other characters as the so-called bad guys get a standing O from the Jar Jar haters.

  35. Download Now No Waiting! by litewoheat · · Score: 2

    No stupid Stawars.com user id needed either... Off you go

  36. Teaser trailer background by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a little off-topic, but I heard that the Episode 2 trailer was physically attached to the beginning of the reels of Monsters Inc. So, in essence, the teaser is the beginning of Monsters Inc. This was arranged by George Lucas and Pixar since 20th Century Fox and Disney didn't want the trailer in front of it and it's usually up to those companies and the theaters to put the trailers together before the film. Pixar used to be part of Lucasarts, but Lucas didn't want to go the whole CG'd route so they broke off, but they're still good friends with Lucas. So Lucas basically called them up and asked them to put his little teaser at the beginning of the prints for Monsters Inc.

    I thought that was kind of interesting, but according to theforce.net the trailer isn't on all prints or some theaters are chopping it off so it's possible some people won't see it in front of Monsters Inc. Just thought some people might find that interesting.

    1. Re:Teaser trailer background by Jburkholder · · Score: 2

      You know, that makes sense of how the "trailer" was placed right before the movie.

      Usually, you get the all the previews, then they run "lets all go to the snack bar" or whatever kind of ads they have that aren't trailers and then the movie starts.

      Yesterday when I saw Monsters, the StarWars teaser was played apart from the other previews, *after* the concession stand pitch, where the movie would normally have started.

      I thought "Birds" was one of the best Pixar shorts and it made up for the stupid SW trailer (my kids were giggling well into the movie credits).

    2. Re:Teaser trailer background by artemis67 · · Score: 2

      Pixar used to be part of Lucasarts, but Lucas didn't want to go the whole CG'd route so they broke off, but they're still good friends with Lucas. So Lucas basically called them up and asked them to put his little teaser at the beginning of the prints for Monsters Inc.

      I would assume that it also had to do with the relationship Steve Jobs is building between Lucasfilm and Apple. This is the second time that Apple has featured a Star Wars trailer on their QuickTime site.

    3. Re:Teaser trailer background by Sodium+Attack · · Score: 2

      Where I saw Monsters Inc., the theater's own little promo was between the SW2 preview and the film. So either the rumor is untrue, or else the theater chopped up the reel.

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    4. Re:Teaser trailer background by Yoje · · Score: 2, Informative

      When I used to work as a theatre projectionist (before they all went south and had the managers do projection work instead), several films had trailers attached directly on the movie, or in the can with the movie. Usually, though, these were advertising other films by _that studio_.

      At one chain I worked at, it was company policy at the time, and probably still is (Regal), to cut off the MPAA "green/red" warning in front of all preview trailers, and attach ALL trailers together (if it was attached to the film, we were to "remove" it from the film and re-attach it to the rest of the preview trailers). I'm sure other theatres have similar policies, since they assume that the audience assumes the feature presentation is next after the "theatre chain" ad & sound trailer (for those theatres that still bother to put sound trailers on the film).

      So while it isn't that interesting that the trailer is directly attached to the print, and it isn't that interesting that the trailer is being chopped off/moved around/replaced (has been happening for years), it is rather interesting that a Fox movie trailer was attached to a Disney film.

    5. Re:Teaser trailer background by blair1q · · Score: 2

      Disney has the killer-app movie of the fall kids' market.

      Lucas has the killer-pap movie to sell for next summer's kids' market.

      Disney needs cash.

      Lucas has all the money.

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  37. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by HongPong · · Score: 2
    Perhaps it's not a lightsaber at all but a Moodsaber®. It's green when he's around big, handsome and studly Obi-Wan, blue around the other guy that doesn't swing that way, and purple around the princess....

    If that was Annakin's true nature, wouldn't the moodsaber turn purple (put on your Jerry Falwell caps everyone) around "studly Obi-Wan"?

  38. Actually the Correct URL by BrookHarty · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/media/pro/ ep2_breathing_m640.mov
    Is the large version that requires Quicktime pro.

    Quicktime will use your default proxy (on windows) all you have to do, is parse the proxy log for the 2nd .mov that it downloads.

    GET /ep2/breathing/media/pro/ep2_breathing_m640.mov HTTP/1.1
    Connection: keep-alive
    Host: starwars.apple.com
    Range: bytes=0-
    Accept: */*
    User-Agent: QuickTime (qtver=5.0.2;os=Windows NT 5.1)

  39. Attack of the Clones, Part II by fobbman · · Score: 5, Funny

    All four of those servers are painfully slow. Looks like "Attack of the Clones" is also another term for the /. effect.

    1. Re:Attack of the Clones, Part II by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Shouldn't that be, "Attack of the Trolls"?

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  40. Question about Crossover by mindstrm · · Score: 2

    Will this interfere with, say, native plugins? Or does it simply allow you to use whichever windows plugins you want...

  41. Doh, Correct URL., messup post. by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Informative


    http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/media/pr o/ ep2_breathing_m640.mov
    Is the large version that requires Quicktime pro.

    Quicktime will use your default proxy (on windows) all you have to do, is parse the proxy log for the 2nd .mov that it downloads.

    GET /ep2/breathing/media/pro/ep2_breathing_m640.mov HTTP/1.1
    Connection: keep-alive
    Host: starwars.apple.com
    Range: bytes=0-
    Accept: */*
    User-Agent: QuickTime (qtver=5.0.2;os=Windows NT 5.1)

    1. Re:Doh, Correct URL., messup post. by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2

      Someone mod the parent up!

      His link works so long as you (if you're in Windows AND IE) right-click the link and "Copy Shortcut" (Slashdot's line-wrapping crap inserts a space in the text URL, so it's semi-broken I believe).

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    2. Re:Doh, Correct URL., messup post. by pjl5602 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Or for the technically challenged Linux user type:

      wget -U "QuickTime (qtver=5.0.2;os=Windows NT 5.1)" http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/media/pro/ ep2_breathing_m640.mov

  42. How Is QT5 Pro Detected? by Buran · · Score: 2

    So... I'm curious ...

    What is it that makes it fail if you don't have QT5Pro installed?

    Also, since I work in a research lab where we use QuickTime all the time, we have it on all machines -- so I don't even know what it does if you don't and click the link anyway.

    1. Re:How Is QT5 Pro Detected? by macdaddy · · Score: 2

      I'm not a buff on the specifics of the HTTP protocol(s) but I believe there is something similar to the information you send about the name (identity) of your browser and the version number that shows plugins and versions. I believe that's what they are looking at. If their server detects that the connecting client meets the requirements, it serves the file. If it doesn't, it serves an alternate file. I think... I really don't know though. That's my $.02.

    2. Re:How Is QT5 Pro Detected? by Buran · · Score: 2

      I thought about your response for a bit and recalled reading that there is a way to use JavaScript to go through the available plug-ins one by one to see if any of them meets the ID string of the one you're looking for.

      This one is for Netscape 3 or higher and detects a VRML plugin:

      <!--
      function DetectNetscape() {
      var retVal = 0;
      var version = parseFloat(navigator.appVersion);
      if (version>=3) {
      var plugin = navigator.mimeTypes["model/vrml"];
      if (plugin != null) {
      retVal = 1;
      }
      }
      return retVal;
      }
      // -->

      The snippet is from http://web3d.vapourtech.com/workshop/embed/ which has details on how to do it in IE along with a script that makes use of this function.

      It might be fun (but I'll probably forget) to write a simple page that just spits out all the ID strings of all installed plugins on your system. Then one could remove the serial number from the QT control panel to make it think it's unregistered, load the page, put it back, and see if anything changed.

      Or maybe if I get bored I'll just turn Javascript off and see what the trailer loader page does without it.

  43. Resolution won't likely go up. by tgd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most DLP projectors in theaters are 1920x1080, progressive scan (progressive scan 24fps version of HD's 1080i).

    Most film editing systems run using 2k scans (2048 pixels across), so there's not any extra resolution available in the output from the production of the film.

    Some effects houses use 4k scans for input to heavy effects scenes, but as a general rule thats beyond the capability of the film stock to hold. (A 35mm film frame is less than 1/2 the area of a 35mm print frame on your normal film camera, and those barely get any benefit from a 4k scan).

  44. gnutella mirrors more efficiently by abe+ferlman · · Score: 3, Informative

    The gnutella network is a fine place to find an mpg version of this trailer, and as more people share it the mirrors will be more and more widespread. Peer to peer networks shine best in when they solve bandwidth problems by distributing the cost of mirroring popular data over the internet.

    I recommend gnut, a text-based GPL'd gnutella client you can use over telnet or whatever, and you can even open a shell over top of it so you can continue interacting with the file system. it's the coolest.

    It may be a good idea to search for "monsters" since the correct trailer (the one I found) was marked that way. Otherwise you might end up with the very well done forgery that has been circulating the net for a while.

    Bryguy

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  45. Re:Direct Link [MOD Parent Up] by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2

    1) There's a link further up that should be modded up, this link doesn't by-pass the check for QuickTime Pro (AFAIK!).

    2) QuickTime most certainly is NOT superior to DVD video. I've seen MPEG-2 streams that look much nicer than this and are comparativly sized.

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  46. Is it still called... by Tom7 · · Score: 2


    Is this movie still called "Attack of the Killer Clones" or something stupid like that?

  47. CNN.com's write-up of the trailer/teaser-- by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2

    Check out CNN's write-up of the teaser; apperently the author of this article thought it'd be worthwhile to list tons of thoughts of people who posted on starwars.com's message boards, such as these--

    -- It was "dark" in style, according to at least two posters.

    -- Natalie Portman, who stars as Queen Amidala, looked "hot."

    "It was freakin' awesome!!!!" posted jacenggf.

    I dunno... the middle one, about Natalie Portman, just struck me as funny for a news outlet to quote.
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    1. Re:CNN.com's write-up of the trailer/teaser-- by t_allardyce · · Score: 2, Funny

      Its not funny, its a serious issue, Natalie Portman _is_ hot, and some people just don't understand how hot she is. I actually hated episode one and two will probably be just as bad, but i will be forced to part with cash because i must get my fix of Miss Portman on a big screen.

      Every day, people are turned to crime to pay for their Portman fixations, something must be done about it.

      Is this something you consider funny? - seeing peoples' lives ruined because Natalie Portman is to hot? maybe your the sort of person that drowns little puppies and kittens too? CNN has every right to inform us on this.

      You can also donate money to help people who have suffered from prolonged exposure to Natalie Portmans beauty, and keep kids off the streets by donating to www.np-rehab.org

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  48. The Last Hope by bryanbrunton · · Score: 3, Funny

    In the far distant future...

    After George Lucas is dead. And his copyrights on the original Star Wars material have expired.

    A new film director arises and reshoots the Star Wars Episode I to III as they should have been done.

    This new director focuses on story telling and character development. The new films do not make use of fart jokes, inane action sequences that only exists to have action sequences, and highly annoying animated aliens that only school children can appreciate.

    All you need to know about CmdrTaco is that he actually liked The Phantom Menace.

  49. OT, your sig by Dyolf+Knip · · Score: 2

    What were the skies like when you were young?

    Where is this from? It sounds very familiar and I can't place it.

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  50. Re: CrossOver plugin by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    No, actually, I'm willing to bet the "CrossOver" plug-in won't do extremely well at $20 a pop.

    Quite frankly, I'll well past the point of being willing to pay anything extra to be able to view a specific video file format. If people doing advertising want me to see their sales-pitch for a new movie (what a "teaser" is, after all), they should provide it in multiple formats - not just proprietary Apple format.

    I appreciate the work that was put into trying to get Quicktime movies to play on Linux - but if they expect payment for it, I just can't cost-justify it. If others can, great. I hope it does well for them.

  51. Re:Good and Bad results of trailers by mblase · · Score: 2

    Even better example, which I somehow forgot in my first post: The Matrix trailer. You can still find it at www.whatisthematrix.com, although it's kind of buried. It gives lots of clips from the movie, but succeeds terrifically in two ways: first, it gives away absolutely NOTHING about the movie plot. Second, it shows a lot of the eye candy from the movie while still saving lots of equally-good eye candy for the people who buy tickets.

    Not quite as minimal as the Alien trailer you cited, but just as effective. At least for me.

  52. Re:Down with corporations! Except Lucasfilm. by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 2

    So, you either have to love all corporations, or you have to hate all corporations? I guess no shades of grey are allowed.

    If you are a zealot that rails against the evils of corporate control, then yes, you do.

  53. Re:Boba Fett by geomcbay · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's Jango Fett flying, Boba's dad.

    Boba Fett is just a kid in this movie, and is shown in the trailer as one of the clone kids sitting in the room with the blue helmet-thingys on.

  54. But I do have something to say about this. by ren1999+disinformati · · Score: 2, Insightful

    George Lucas, Paramount, and FOX Television lawyers who go after fansites because they believe they are protecting their copy rights are really destroying free advertising for themselves and estranging their most loyal fans.

  55. name and address - almost completely OT by PONA-Boy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    John Booty Writes:

    I have more of a problem giving out my personal information for things I AM paying for. Like when Radio Shack, or some other stores, ask you for your address after a purchase, so they can mail you spam, I suppose.

    PONA-Boy chimes in:

    Since I was a Radio Shack employee for (too) many years, I feel uniquely qualified to add my two cents on the name/address issue here. When you are indoctrinated into the Radio Shack system of retail bliss, it is ingrained in you that an enormous amount of return business is generated from the seemingly-intrusive practice of asking for names and addresses. It was, to me, an uncomfortable practice to get into the habit of doing but I eventually relented and pursued it. In fact, your performance reviews were partly weighted by your name/address percentage rate.

    Believe it or not, the truth is that the marketing geniuses ad Tandy Corporate were right - the more names and addresses we gathered, the more monthly flyers and promotions were mailed out to people in our area, the more advertising revenue went into our district, the more people came into our store, and the more money Tandy (and we lowly slugs) made. I can remember asking overandover again for the last four digits in someone's phone number...which was how the POS system managed groups of names back then.

    It was intrusive and borderline downright obnoxious but it really did generate a great deal of revenue for our business. I assume it still does...

    I saw the trailer at Monsters, Inc, this weekend myself. As much as I am going to try and insulate myself from the marketing chatter and numerous spoilers, I still enjoyed seeing those brief glimpses of what is to come. Looks like Ewan's got a beard in this one!!!

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  56. One guy by ucblockhead · · Score: 2
    That's because one guy narrates the vast majority of all trailers.


    I saw a short thing on it. That's how he makes his living. Nothing but movie trailers.

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    1. Re:One guy by SpryGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

      You have to wonder if the guy ever gets tired of saying, "In a world...."

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  57. Re:Down with corporations! Except Lucasfilm. by kreyg · · Score: 2

    Except... Lucasfilm isn't a corporation, it's privately owned (I believe - LucasArts is privately owned, I'm sure of that).

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  58. Not quite by flimflam · · Score: 2

    Speaking as someone in the industry (and who sells DLP projectors) let me clarify. The actual DLP resolution is 1280x1024. This gets you almost the full vertical resolution of 1080 HD, but considerably less than the full horizontal resolution (1920 pixels).

    Most film editing systems still run at NTSC resolution (720x486). Perhaps you meant most film compositing systems. Many of them do, in fact, work at 4K, and it is getting more economical to work at that resolution (and it will get considerably more so when the Spirit 2 comes out next year -- it does 2K in real time and 4K at 4fps). And a 35mm film frame definitely has more resolution than will fit in a 2K scan -- anyone who says otherwise obviously doesn't work in the business. Remember that you have more apparent resolution in motion-picture film because of the non-grid layout of the film grains. A scan of one frame may not appear all that sharp, but run them by at 24 fps and watch it sharpen up!

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  59. Apple and trailer hosting by Wonko42 · · Score: 2

    Sorry to disappoint you, but Apple hosts trailers for just about every new movie that's released these days.

    1. Re:Apple and trailer hosting by artemis67 · · Score: 2

      Sorry to disappoint you, but Apple hosts trailers for just about every new movie that's released these days.

      Duh.

      But does Apple get the EXCLUSIVE ONLINE DISTRIBUTION RIGHTS for every major release? That generally has to be negotiated.

      I don't know if they have it for the AOTC trailer (I haven't seen it anywhere else, though), but I know that they did have it for TPM.

  60. For the love of Allah, get a life ! by Augusto · · Score: 2


    And just because the "Rebels" won, that doesn't mean that peace is sure to reign; just look at todays real world. The underdog defeated the mighty evil over in Afghanistan (Mujihaddin(?) vs. USSR), but did it bring on an era of peace? No, they immediately fell to in-fighting, and opened the door for an even greater nemesis - the Taliban.


    Wow, you sure don't have any fun. Sucks to be you !

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  61. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

    I recall from one of the earlier movies that a Jedi Knight was supposed to make his own lightsaber near the end of his apprenticeship. (That's a convenient skill. Nobody else seems to have them. So being disarmed in a remote location would be a long-term problem if you had to visit a jedi armory to rearm.)

    Perhaps the distinct color is supposed to be an artifact of the individual home-brew devices.

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  62. To make the above link work... by spoco2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    OK, well that almost works except if you just click on that or copy it into your browser it'll complain about a referrer error and no permission... that's because it expects you to be comming from the page with that movie on it... so, first go to http://www.apple.com/trailers, click on the starwars EPII link, then click on the large link, then on the page that says it requires QT Pro, to download click here... now paste in the above link... bingo... the last page the browser saw was the correct one, and you'll be able to view the movie... and as a bonus you can then jump into your temporary internet folder and copy the .mov file to elsewhere... as I just did... man it's a lot better quality than the smaller one! :)

    I'm now very excited about the second movie... it could be a winner... I hope.

  63. Re:Saving a trailer w/o QT Pro by fjordboy · · Score: 2

    one way to get movies and embedded files out:

    This is the way I got the LOTR movies and all sorts of .swf files. The way I do it is to view the source of the page, find the file name, add the file name to the last directory in the URL, copy the url, open notepad, create and html file and link to the link you copied, open the html file in netscape or IE or whatever, right click on the link and click save target as, and then you can download whatever file they were trying to prevent you from downloading. I dunno if this is easier than searching your cache, but it is definitely easy for flash animations and whatnot.

  64. So it has Natalie Portman.... by Chester+K · · Score: 2

    ...and she's not petrified.. and I didn't see ANY hot grits!

    Screw that! I've been reading Slashdot for the past few years... Lucas is gonna have to do better if he wants to impress ME!

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  65. Re:Boba Fett by geomcbay · · Score: 2

    Warning: SPOILERS, Perhaps.

    Sorry, but that's incorrect. In any case you'll see when the movie is out. Essentially all of the plot has been leaked, and that includes the information about Jango Fett, Boba Fett (he's the first clone, and given as a gift to Jango for his help in destroying the Jedi), etc.

    The Slave 1 is in the trailer, but keep in mind that the 'special design' stuff is not canon, its taken from somewhere else (books? RPG?) and Lucas has never promised that the films will be consistent with the 'Expanded Universe' stuff from other media. In fact, if you remember back to the time of the original trilogy, much of plot of 'Splinter of the Minds Eye' (a book released pre-ESB) was inconsistent with what occured in ESB.

    I'm quite sure of the Jango/Boba Fett information.
    Take a look at some of the star wars fan sites like www.theforce.net for confirmation, or even look at the official site which makes numerous mentions of Jango Fett in Episode 2.

  66. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 2

    > NORTH
    Senate Antechamber

    Your lightsaber is glowing with a faint blue glow.

    > EAST
    Inner Quarters

    The emperor is here.

    Your lightsaber has begun to glow very brightly.

  67. Re:Down with corporations! Except Lucasfilm. by kreyg · · Score: 2

    Ah, well, LLC actually stands for Limited Liability Company. As far as I have been able to determine, an LLC is somewhere between a partnership and a corporation. Since the goal of this particular LLC is not to make faceless stockholders very rich, but rather to make George Lucas very rich... well take that however you like.

    Corporations aren't necessarily inherently evil anyway (although I'm not sure about their lawyers).

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  68. Captions and Analysis on the teaser... by antdude · · Score: 2

    A friend of mine sent me this URL. It was very interesting and I didn't notice a lot of scenes :).

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  69. Poor Trailer by Martin+S. · · Score: 2


    I think this is a pretty poor trailer, (especially when compared the LOR trailer) it gives nearly no feel for the movie.

  70. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by smaughster · · Score: 2

    Basic idea is that the colour of a light saber is determined by the crystal that is used to focus the energy beam. You can have lightsabers with several crystals, allowing for several different colours and different settings of beam length etc.

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  71. Re:Offtopic, but I really want to know by flimflam · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, it's hard to say exactly what the resolution of film is, because there are many variables:

    1) The film stock used makes a huge difference. Kodak has made incredible strides with their stocks (as has Fuji, for that matter). Their 800ASA stock has less grain than their 500ASA stocks of a few years ago. That said, there's a big difference between shooting 5245 which is a 50ASA stock and, say, 5279 which is a 320ASA stock -- the 45 is virtually grainless.

    2) The format used makes a difference. There are many different ways of shooting 35mm film, all of which use different portions of the negative. Basically, the more neg you use, the less grain and the more resolution (because the less magnification you have to make to get it on the screen).

    3) The exact post-production chain makes a difference as well. The more optical steps you have to go through, the more apparent the grain will be.

    I believe that T2 was mostly scanned at 4K actually, which is higher resolution than most films done today. Pleasantville was done at 2K. However, the technology for printing digital files back to film has improved greatly since then, so it could definitely be done better now. Hopefully more films will be done at 4K in the future as hard-drive space gets cheaper (a big concern since film compositing is typically done uncompressed and with at least 10 and up to 16 bits per color channel per pixel, which means that even at 2K each minute of film is at least 11GB.)

    A complete digital chain does indeed get rid of film grain. There are digital techniques that are just becoming available to eliminate grain on film originated material as well.

    However, digital projection will, at least in the near term, bring about its own artifacts from compression, the lack of resolution, and some other things that are particular to the current technology (DLP can produce some strange flickering in certain colors due to the way it works). (All this is being worked on, of course).

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