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Douglas Adams' Last Book

mixedbag writes "A BBC news article suggests that a sixth book in Douglas Adams's Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy series will be published next May. It will be unfinished from files found of his computer. The title is to be A Salmon of Doubt."

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  1. unfinished art by colmore · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't know how I feel about this. While I'll be glad to have another book from such a great author, I worry that this will in some way corrupt the memory by putting an unfinished work-in-progress up against his polished final drafts. I hope at least they'll leave it unfinished, and not have some hack come in and tie things up for him.

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    1. Re:unfinished art by pathwayX · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I do know how I feel about this. When an author is a hit, any book with his name on it is bound to sell well.

      Maybe not as well as a 'real' book by him, but well enough that publishers will lick their lips over this one. Hell. Even books vaguely connected to a series/world/idea sell. Think of the gazillion Guide To The World Of Foo books that are out there.

      Some might argue that this is done so that the world will not be left without a particularly talented author's final contribution or some such. Some people may even mean that.

      Personally, I don't like it. It's another man's work. Another man's dream. No matter how much respect you afford it, it's not yours. Leave it be. And, as my sig says, ...

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    2. Re:unfinished art by guhknew · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If I remember correctly, a lot of his books weren't as polished as you may believe. He heavily procrastinated the completion of the first book in the series and worked to just finish it up.

  2. Re:So many questions... by VA+Software · · Score: 5, Insightful

    WHAT WAS THE FINAL QUESTION? PLEASE PLEASE TELL ME PLEASE PLEASE.

    That will be revealed at the end of the unfinished "A Salmon of Doubt".

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  3. Reminds me of... by Satai · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...a review Mr. Cranky wrote of Almost Heroes.

    "Almost Heroes" is such an abomination that one actually wishes Chris Farley had kicked off long before he got anywhere near this script. The filmmakers would have been kinder to Farley's memory by taking a collective piss on his rotting corpse."

    Let's hope that the new Adams book is a better experience. Don't most authors include something in their wills about not publishing unfinished materials?

    1. Re:Reminds me of... by rebug · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think you're speaking to a generation that belives Ernest P. Worrel and Mark Twain to be of comparable wit.

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    2. Re:Reminds me of... by FatOldGoth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Don't most authors include something in their wills about not publishing unfinished materials?

      Sometimes, but this isn't necessarily a good thing.

      Franz Kafka went one step further and asked his executor of his will to burn all his unpublished work (which is almost everything of his we consider to be a classic today). Luckily the executor didn't go through with this and it was published posthumously. Sometimes authors aren't the best judges of their work.

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    3. Re:Reminds me of... by zhensel · · Score: 3, Informative

      Having read his unfinished / requested incinerated novel The Trial and a whole slew of short stories, I'd have to disagree entirely. Within the "established literary tradition" or not, these are wonderful works with all sorts of meaning. I loved The Trial and it was almost better that it was unfinished. I sat around for days wondering about the various forms that the work could've took in a finished state. At least with the novel I read, I've found that Kafka's unfinished work is easily equal in quality, meaning, et al to his short story work which is undeniably brilliant. If you reply saying that The Judgement, A Country Doctor, Josephine and the Mouse Folk, and Metamorphosis are all likewise horrible I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Besides, Kafka wasn't spot on in his evaluation of anything - just read up on his history and then read his work and see how twisted his evaluation of women was. He was one paranoid fellow.

  4. When I die by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I die, I hope they publish all those half completed letters to Penthouse I was working on.

    "I never thought this could happen to me, but when I saw the six buxom cheerleaders knocking at my door..."

  5. Publishing anything by ishark · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just hope it does not end as it was with Tolkien, with lots of books published from temporary files/materials and in general so much stuff that it really looked like they were squeezing all the possible money from it....
    While almost-completed stories are ok to publish, when the level reaches 10 lines of text and 10 pages of comment by someone else then it's sad.

  6. Salmon of Doubt .... or .. ? by Wakkow · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A quick search on google came across this interview from April... Here's a quote from it:

    The new book is not a Hitchhiker's book - there are already five of those - or a Dirk Gently book, but "it will be recognizable in style to anyone who knows those books." It also won't be The Salmon of Doubt.

    "I abandoned [The Salmon of Doubt] about halfway through because I just thought it was getting too dull," Adams said. "Since then, I've now got lots and lots of different story lines waiting for me to turn them into books. One of them I shall apply the title Salmon of Doubt to, but I don't know which one yet."

    Anyone know if the one being published was the "dull" book he never finished or another one?

    -Daniel

    1. Re:Salmon of Doubt .... or .. ? by Stavros42 · · Score: 3, Informative

      In August, the BBC showed an "Omnibus" documentary on Douglas Adams' life, which said, along with the fact that Adams suffered writer's block a lot, that the only way he could be persuaded to finish the fifth novel, Mostly Harmless, was to set it up so that all Planet Earths in all possible universes ceased to exist - that way nobody could ask him to write a sixth Hitch Hiker novel!

      The BBC page seems to think that the unfinished bits of novel that have been found comprise the sixth Hitch Hiker novel. This is unlikely, as that interview says. I would have thought it is something completely new, i.e. neither Hitch Hiker nor Dirk Gently, but the BBC article says that the work will be edited - could this mean that bits of separate stories might be merged to produce a novel? In any case, I hope it is done in a way Douglas' family feel he would have wanted.

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  7. Please Leave the Writings Alone by Chibi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    from the article:

    "He would take it and then revise it repeatedly so there were many files.

    "As soon as he wrote anything he would say, 'Oh, God that's terrible'. He was a very, very self-critical author and so had a lot of trouble writing. He was a perfectionist."

    I would rather that they not publish these final stories unless there was any indication from Mr. Adams before his death that he felt the stories lived up to his standards. It's sad, but they don't even know if he had thought of a completely new way to present the story, but just never had the chance to write it down.

    Maybe if they include something in the forward saying that he had never reached a final approval point with these writings, it would sit easier with me. One thing I am glad they are doing, though, is to at least publish it in a collection with other writings, rather than selling it as the final novel in the Hitchhiker's collection.

    And I will admit some curiosity to see the same story written in different ways. It might provide some insight into his creative process.

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  8. whats next? by nihilist_1137 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Will we be seeing half completed movies that directors started?
    oh yea AI.

    or half completed software that a developer did not finish.
    wait a minute, they dont have to be dead.

    Point - its a mistake to publish something that isnt finish. It could have ended up way different that what was recovered on the computer after adams was finished revising it.

  9. This is my fifth lifetime posting to slashdot... by jasonbrown · · Score: 3, Funny

    But Taco always say:

    "Marvin you know we can't allow robots to post to slashdot. This website is for human nerds."

    Hear I am. This is my fifth time though the whole expanse of time. I KNOW the secret to cold fusion. I personally talked to Jesus about the afterlife. I've had an XBox 5 TIMES now, and it just keeps pissing me off. Bill thinks he's so cool. Has he ever seen the end of time. I THINK NOT!!!

    Tell Taco to let me post! Don't let Taco discriminate against me just because I am a robot.

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  10. F. Scott Fitzgerald's The Last Tycoon by jvmatthe · · Score: 3, Insightful
    As part of my research on F. Scott Fitzgerald back in high school, I read his unfinished last book The Last Tycoon. While I enjoyed that part that exists, the experience was unsatisfying precisely because the it was unfinished. The analysis of his notes that followed outlined how the book might have ended, based on some speculation, but that's no way to end any story. It's like reading the first half of Romeo and Juliet and having to read someone else's notes to find out "hijinx ensue, they commit suicide".


    For that reason, I'd be tempted to stay away from this book by Douglas.

  11. Original Source by VA+Software · · Score: 4, Informative

    The original source of the story is the Sunday Telegraph.
    There is a little more information here than at the BBC.

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  12. Read it for what it's worth... by edashofy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll buy it and read it, but only for what it's worth. I got the feeling at the end of Mostly Harmless that he had pulled a Charlton Heston at the end of Beneath the Planet of the Apes--that he wanted to end the series so finally that no sequel was possible. A little like he was angrily trying to give the HH fans, always clamoring for more, the hint that he didn't have any more to give in the series.

    On a side-note, Adams was a devout atheist. It doesn't seem fitting that we should be worried that he's looking down on all of us screaming, "No, you idiots! Don't publish that!"

  13. Sad? by Kidbro · · Score: 5, Informative

    Once again, I'd like to refer to what Neil Gaiman wrote in his journal once he heard of Douglas' death: I hope that his death isn't followed by the publishing of all the stuff he hadn't wanted to see print. (the Saturday, May 12, 2001 entry).

  14. Re:post-mortem publishing common by maggard · · Score: 3, Funny
    Actually L. Ron Hubbard was claimed to have written numerous books after his apparent death, a much more impressive feat then simply having books published ex mortis.

    I don't know if it true but I was once told the American Library Association once awarded Hubbard an award for most books written post-humously.

    -- Michael

    ps for the Scientologists: L. Ron Hubbard now lives in my pants - feel him for 25 cents.

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  15. Aha! by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 5, Funny
    http://www.galactic-guide.com/articles/2U13.html

    1. The Answer to the Question is 42.
    2. Marvin, amongst numerous other complaints, claimed to have a brain the size of a planet.
    3. Marvin, like other robots, has a computer-based brain.
    4. The Earth is a planet.
    5. The Earth was built by the mice as a computer, the only such planet or computer ever built.
    6. By (2), (3), (4), and (5), the Earth must therefore be Marvin's brain.
    7. The sole purpose of the Earth's program was to discover the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.
    8. Marvin once announced that he had, in a moment of boredom, found the square root of -1, something never before done in the history of the universe, and previously believed by all sensible hyper-intelligent beings to be possibly the most difficult task to undertake, as it was dependent on the very structure of the Universe. (Most normally- intelligent beings gave up, dismissing it as impossible.)
    9. Marvin announced that he felt a brief, but deep, sense of satisfaction after having accomplished the achievement in (8).
    10. The Earth was apparently destroyed just as the purpose of its program was fulfilled, and a Question had been found.
    11. By (7), the Earth computer would have felt a deep sense of satisfaction at having achieved the task it was designed to fulfil.
    12. By (10), the sensation in (11) would have been brief.
    13. By (6), and by the fact that emotional feelings are based in the brain, the feelings in (9), (11) and (12) are the same single feeling.
    14. Finding the Ultimate Question was deemed to be the single most difficult task undertaken by hyper-intelligent beings in the history of the universe, as it was dependant on the very structure of the Universe -- as well as Life and Everything.
    15. By (6), (8), (13), and (14), Marvin (the Earth) had clearly solved the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.
    16. By (8) and (15), the Question is "What is the square root of -1?".
    17. By (1) and (16), the square root of -1 is 42.
    Pretty obvious, in hindsight...

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  16. Okay... by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 3, Informative

    Instead of asking ``who the fuck is Ernest P. Worrel'', I'm sparing everyone else the trouble. He's that damned annoying ``Ernest Goes to Camp''/``Ernest Goes to Africa''/``Ernest Goes to Eroticon Six'' guy, played my Jim Varley.

    http://us.imdb.com/Mlinks?0119068

    That sort of thing.

    -grendel drago

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  17. But...he's DEAD. by Lurkingrue · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I never can understand why people get so upset about "violating the wishes" of the now-dead. The dead shouldn't have rights, for the simple reason that they're not alive.

    As for Mr. Adams, he was a very good writer, and an extremely talented man. He showed quite a bit of intelligence and insight, as well as compassion (I recommend that everyone try to get a copy of Last Chance to See. I think he did a great job of using his fame and talent to do good and have fun.

    When he was alive, by all means, one should have shown him complete respect for his work and his rights. Treat him the way you'd want to be treated.

    But, the fact of the matter is, now he's dead. You can't embarrass him, make him happy, cause him grief or indignation. You can't because he simply...isn't anymore. And, the fact is, there are people out there who are alive, who do want to read this. Why shouldn't they be allowed to, when doing so hurts absolutely nobody?

    I'm sure some people will see this as flamebait, but seriously, many of the big problems in modern society revolve around un-dying "rights" and "wishes" -- be it of corporations, dead "prophets", or the ability of the very rich to pass on their inheritance to those who did nothing to earn it...Do we really need to devote any more "respect" to the non-existent when there are so many that could benefit (albeit in a very small way in this case) by considering the living?

    If someone wants to show respect to the memory of Douglas Adams by not reading this unfinished material, that's their business -- personally I'd rather show people respect while they're alive and can appreciate it, rather than by making empty and useless gestures after they're dust.

    1. Re:But...he's DEAD. by FleshWound · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's called respect.

    2. Re:But...he's DEAD. by MulluskO · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thanks to the DMCA, my copyrights will live on long after I die. So the dead do have rights. Copyrights. Forever, or at least into the forseeable forever.

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  18. Re:Is this right? by nomadic · · Score: 3, Informative

    Harlan Ellison had a great response to the question "So is it wrong to do so?". Never was a huge fan of his fiction (obviously brilliant, just never clicked with me), but my God the man can write a brilliant invective.

  19. Unfinished Works by BrianArm · · Score: 5, Informative

    Everyone complaining that the idea of publishing Douglas Adams' unfinished book posthumously seems somehow wrong, might find it interesting that Douglas himself wrote the forward for his own favorite author P. G. Wodehouse's unwished book "Sunset at Blanding". In it he wrote:

    "This is P. G. Wodehouse's last -- and unfinished -- book. It is unfinished not just in the sense that it suddenly, heartbreakingly for those of us who love this man and his work, stops in mid-flow, but in the more important sense that the text up to that point is also unfinished."
    ...
    "Will you, anyway, find much evidence of the great genius of Wodehouse here? Well, to be honest, no."
    ...
    "But you will want to read Sunset for completeness, and for that sense you get, from its unfinishedness, of being suddenly and unexpectedly close to a Master actually at work -- a bit like seeing paint pots and scaffolding being carried in and out of the Sistine Chapel."

    So I don't think Douglas himself would really object to this.

  20. a proposed ending by RestiffBard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have to say that I think I have the perfect ending, one that Douglas Adams would appreciate.

    If I was the editor it would end thusly in mid-sentence.

    "...sadly the author of this work is now dead and no one knows what the question is."

    and then like 42 blank pages. i would laugh my ass off at that I think Douglas would as well.

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  21. Old news by biglig2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you wathc the on-line recordings of DNA's memorial service, his literary agent explained that:
    a) salmon of doubt was extremely unfinished (to be precise, it's not a case of only being half of a book, it's a case of what there is being early drafts from a writer who did many many many revisions of his work) but that even so...
    b) ...they intended to include it in a forthcoming collection of his non-book-published work (journalism etc.) simply because the fanatics would demand it.

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  22. Re:Open source it! [Not off-topic] by DaoudaW · · Score: 3, Funny

    Since I got modded Off-topic on my first attempt I'll risk another point or two of karma and try again for a (score:3, Funny).

    He would take it and then revise it repeatedly so there were many files. "As soon as he wrote anything he would say, 'Oh, God that's terrible'. He was a very, very self-critical author and so had a lot of trouble writing. He was a perfectionist." Which sounds like so many Open Source projects which never make it to rel. 1.0. If we could set it up as an Open Source project, we'd have a chance of getting to 1.0 in maybe 3 or 4 years.

  23. Re:So many questions... by PurpleBob · · Score: 4, Informative

    That explanation is very clever and very wrong.

    Arthur found the WRONG question, because his evolution had been tainted by the Golgafrinchans. It is not a typo, and it is not base 13. It is simply supposed to be wrong.

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  24. Very sad indeed. by MrDalliard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The fact that Adams didn't publish any of this, because he thought it wasn't right, says a lot, I think. This just seems like a way of cashing in .

    I personally, think that it shouldn't be published. If Adams wasn't happy with it, then his wish should have been respected.

    This reminds me of when Freddie Mercury died, and all of a sudden a whole pile of Queen records got released. Most of them were pants. If they hadn't been released, it was for a good reason.

    Very sad indeed. This shouldn't just be an excuse to cash in.