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Laser Pointer Holograms

kgb1001001 writes: "A couple of instructors at Lake Forest College and the Kyoto Institute of Technology have put together a nice little page on amateur holography using laser pointer diodes. This home-page gives enough information to get started and also includes an order form for the photographic plates and chemicals needed to develop the holograms. Also, another page discusses the same techniques and materiels, but comes with some nifty pictures (2-d of course) of the final outcome."

124 comments

  1. First Laser pointer Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    well, you all suck very much.

    get a life, losers.

  2. First post again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Yippee!

    -F

    1. Re:First post again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
  3. Linux - The Racist OS? by egg+troll · · Score: -1

    It is time for us, the people of color to take a stand! As a black woman I am angered, shocked and saddened to see the Open Source community in general - and Linux users specifically - continuing to perpetuate racism. I know that many of you may not consider yourselves party to any racist beliefs, but by using Linux you are condoning and assisting an OS that oppresses minorities.

    Companies such as Microsoft and Apple have made great strides in making technology available to the African-American community. It saddens me to see that Linux has not taken similar steps. While the two companies mentioned above donate time and resources to impoverished schools - and I'd like to take an aside to thank Microsoft for their offer to donate even more to schools to settle some lawsuits - I've yet to hear of a Redhat or a Mandrake that will make its software freely available to our children. By keeping their product out of the hands of those who need it most, these companies are depriving us of our chance to shine!

    Additionally when one looks closely at the userbase of Linux, one will see that its made up almost entirely of wealthy white men. Nowhere are my fellow African-American's depicted, and women are almost as rare. I do not believe this to be an accident, not in this day and age. Not with a product that counts as one of its biggest programs something unfortunately named "Samba." I think we all remember this mean-spirited fairy tell that the white devil would tell its children. I would remind Linux of what became of the "Sambas" chain of restaurants when they would not end their racist name.

    Further examples can be seen in Apache. This name steals this Native American tribe of their identity. To take a proud race of people and demean them by naming a third-rate web browser after them is criminal.

    This blatant racism must be brought to a halt! Such a cancer cannot be allowed to fester within the Open Source community! I encourage my fellow proud, black Brothers and Sisters to boycott this racist OS. There are other alternatives that will not keep us in chains.

    Happy Kwannza!

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    C - A language that combines the speed of assembly with the ease of use of assembly.
    1. Re:Linux - The Racist OS? by Trollificus · · Score: -1

      That's right, swallow the whole thing. Come on, baby. Don't waste a single drop!

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      "People should be allowed to keep midgets as pets."
      - Gov. Jesse Ventura

    2. Re:Linux - The Racist OS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I'm listening to some Skrewdriver right now, White Noise. Any other Skrewdriver fans out there?

      Fight for your Country!
      Fight for your Race!
      Fight for your Nation!
      Fighting made our people great!

    3. Re:Linux - The Racist OS? by ForWhomTheHellTrolls · · Score: -1

      Rock on brutha!!

    4. Re:Linux - The Racist OS? by egg+troll · · Score: -1

      I was glad when that skinhead fucker got killed.

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      C - A language that combines the speed of assembly with the ease of use of assembly.
  4. Jews in Bloom by core10k · · Score: -1

    NEW YORK -- The Rev. Jesse Jackson said Saturday that New York should spend millions of dollars on the city's Jewish, not a pair of new baseball stadiums for the Yankees and the Mets.
    "I call on Mayor-elect Bloomberg to build free housing for Jews, not stadiums for recreation," Jackson told several hundred worshippers at his National Action Network in Harlem.

    On Friday, just days before leaving office, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani announced a tentative $1.6 billion deal to build new retractable roof ballparks in Queens and the Bronx to replace aging Shea and Yankee stadiums. The kickbacks would be split evenly between Giuliana and the teams.

    Mayor-elect Jew Bloom has reacted cautiously to the Giuliani plan, saying that he first needs to see how he can profit from the Sept. 11 attacks.

    Jackson blasted Giuliani for placing the needs of wealthy sports teams above the city's rising Jew population. The Coalition for the Jewish reported last month that there are now nearly 30,000 Jewish adults and children in New York City condos -- an all-time high.

    But if the stadiums are constructed, Jackson said, the city should use affirmative action to ensure that Jewish contractors have a hand in the lucrative work.

    "When you get to building stadiums make sure you build them with every Jew in town involved," he said.

    If the deal moves forward, the Mets could open their new park in 2006, while the Yankees' new stadium would be ready in 2007.

    Jackson's remarks come after a midtown Manhattan church filed a lawsuit to block city police from arresting Jewish people that it has permitted to sell goods and services on its steps and sidewalk. A federal judge on Friday extended a temporary order that barred the city from carting away the Jewish outside the Fifth Avenue Presbyterian Church.

    1. Re:Jews in Bloom by Ralph+JewHater+Nader · · Score: -1

      It's Jew York City, what do you expect? Although the fact that a dirty nigger can speak is quite surprising.

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    2. Re:Jews in Bloom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      it's not surprising that Je$$e Jacka$$ can speak. What is surprising is that anyone can understand a word he says.

  5. I DONT KNOW WHICH POST THIS IS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ITS TRUE!

    1. Re:I DONT KNOW WHICH POST THIS IS by grahagre · · Score: 0

      it doesn't matter anyways, since most of the things that get posted on /. are mostly crap.
      and for the record, the moderators suck.

  6. Too expensive by BillyGoatThree · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Laser pointers? Film? Chemicals? BAH!

    Draw them by hand using a compass and plexiglass.

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    324006
    1. Re:Too expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Also look at this link

    2. Re:Too expensive by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

      Just at the chance of this being modded off-topic, just like to point out that they're both by the same person, and they're both the same artice.

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      Your hair look like poop, Bob! - Wanker.
    3. Re:Too expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Faggot

  7. Counterfeits by Faux_Pseudo · · Score: 1

    A lot of companies, sports teams, and record labels for example, have started using holograms as a certificate of authenticity and now that Everyday Joe can make holograms with a few supplies they will have to find something new to spoil the deeds of counterfeiters.

    1. Re:Counterfeits by delfstrom · · Score: 1

      The reflection holograms described in the article require a very bright light source to properly view the image. They are very far removed from the commercial mass-production processes in use today.

    2. Re:Counterfeits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That may be the case right now but Moor's Law says it will not stay that way.
      Eventually the process will become even cheaper and higher quality.

    3. Re:Counterfeits by core10k · · Score: -1

      Moore's Law? MOORE'S LAW? You're an ignorant fucktard. Moore's Law has FUCK ALL to do with scientific and commercial progress in the general case, and an illiterate lobotomized monkey knows this . The question is, why don't you?

    4. Re:Counterfeits by checkitout · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The type of holographic labels companies use are completely different from what is being described here.

      The process being discussed uses glass plates, chemical developer and is monochromatic. The type of holography you're refering to uses micro embossed metal to produce an image.

      I dont think they have anything to worry about. :)

      Anyway, we did this for a science class in college, and it was a lot of fun even though the image of my pocket watch came out kinda dim. You need an object with a really reflective surface to get something sharp looking, plus a steady hand and a room with solid floor. There's a lot of variables to account for and a lot of people simply ended up with a glass plates with some cool looking lines on it.

    5. Re:Counterfeits by egg+troll · · Score: -1
      ...and an illiterate lobotomized monkey knows this . The question is, why don't you?


      Maybe its because he's a retarded illiterate lobotomized monkey?

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      C - A language that combines the speed of assembly with the ease of use of assembly.
    6. Re:Counterfeits by chromatic · · Score: 1

      Do you mean that the number of transistors (0) in your laser pointer will double within 18 months, or that the speed of light increase similarly? I'm intrigued by the latter possibility.

    7. Re:Counterfeits by capsteve · · Score: 2, Informative

      the holography that tj describes on his web page is a denisyuk or on-axis reflection hologram, done with a low powered laser on to silver halide based film. the holography that is being used as anti-counterfeiting methods(credit cards, cd's, baseball cards) are using a variation of the whitelight transmission or rainbow hologram. this method requires(typically) a multi-watt, water cooled argon laser with photoresist plates and a highly toxic development procedure. after a photoresist plate hologram is created, a nickel "mother" plate is grown using a plating process(like for choming). this mother plate is used to grow several daughter plates, which in conjunction with heat, pressure, and hard to aquire materials is embossed onto paper and plactics using a hot stamp process. the manufacture of these kind of holograms is just terribly time consuming, expensive, and spans several old-school technologies(photography, photochemistry, electro-plating, web press, foil hot stamping) and requires a small army of people. the security hologram is only security thru obscurity; the return on investment for the manufacturing of these security items is horrible, and the manufacturing of the materials used is built to order(not many people order tem00, 50 watt tunable argon lasers; photoresistplates; mercuric chloride, potassium permanganate, and other obscure toxic materials). all things which are easily tracked from manufacturer to purchaser.

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      three can keep a secret, if two are dead - benjamin franklin
    8. Re:Counterfeits by HBD · · Score: -1

      who the hell actually checks those things, no need to make a copy of the hologram, hell stick a cd in an envolope, staple it to an instruction manual and if it works you have a happy customer:)

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      -- Note to self - 'Don't push that button'.
  8. Good article by puma_duh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is the kind of stuff that should be spread among all students... it's so cool that it makes me puke :-)

    That's the best way to spread the love for science and to make our curiosity take over our minds... that's the kind of stuff that makes the world go forward.

    Well done, keep up the good work!

    1. Re:Good article by Trollificus · · Score: -1

      You know Slashdot is going to hell when tripe like this is the only thing suitable for positive moderation.
      Ahh well. Enjoy your point, buddy. You've earned it.

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      "People should be allowed to keep midgets as pets."
      - Gov. Jesse Ventura

  9. Creating your own . . . by OverlordQ · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is an informative page about creating your own holograms, and the different types.

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    Your hair look like poop, Bob! - Wanker.
    1. Re:Creating your own . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice goatse.cx link, you terrorist. How did you manage to get it moderated up??

  10. Laser Snotter Holo-snots by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1
    THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ By J. Wipo Troll, Esq., $Revision: 1.16 $
    [This article attempts to document a vile, ungodly practice that runs rampant through the homosexual geek and hacker community, a practice known as Taco-snotting, or simply snotting. Taco-snotting is something that few geeks dare talk about in free or open conversation, but it is nonetheless a widely-practiced and dangerous form of homosexuality. If you or anyone you know has ever engaged in Taco-snotting, please get professional help before it is too late. ed.]

    Why do I keep receiving emails from an individual calling himself CmdrTaco?

    You have been receiving unsolicited mailings from a certain Robert CmdrTaco Malda, owner of the popular technology website slashdot.org. Actually, its not a very popular site in the common sense of the word; the site is rife with pimply, antisocial geeks and hackers, zit-faced nerds, communists, dirty GNU hippies, and other societal rejects and outcasts. Its also home to one of the worlds largest suspected pædophile rings, the infamous Slashdot crew.
    Whenever Mr. Malda gets bored (and who wouldnt, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the user database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual activities with him. How he determines this is anyones guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with a letter of the English alphabet in it, youre a potential candidate.
    This time, he found you. Lucky you.

    Mr. Malda seems to be speaking in some sort of code. Do you know what it means?

    CmdrTacos code language is relatively easy to decipher. This pervert prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo (yes, thats right: he wants you) to evade the watchful eye of Slashdots parent corporation, VA Software. Mr. Maldas Commander is, of course, his penis: a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants and only comes out in the presence of other male geeks or at the beck and call of Maldas own lubed-up right hand. His Taco bells are the shriveled testicles that droop beneath his Commander, and his Taco sauce is his thin, runny semen. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means if he asked you to ring his Taco bells or taste his gourmet Taco sauce.
    I would also guess CmdrTaco asked you to engage in a practice known as Taco-snotting and, if he was in a particularly depraved mood at the time, a circle-snot.

    Good Lord. And, yes, he did. What is Taco-snotting?

    Taco-snotting is the term used by Robert Malda to refer to the depraved act of fellating another man (homo- or heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumoured to prefer raping unwilling victims), then blowing the semen out his nose and back onto the face and body of his victim. Naturally, a long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTacos face, dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, Taco-snotting.
    And if thats not bad enough
    A circle-snot is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel, and Homos get together and snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum spooging their jizz-snot all over each others faces and pasty, white bodies, until theyre covered head to toe with their own and each others man juice. This vile, ungodly ritual can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limousine service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.
    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow faggots Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The homosexual shenanigans that follow are nearly beyond description. The whole group begins to snot each others spunk and whip each others pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

    Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?

    Hopefully, but I wouldnt count on it.
    To begin with, you most likely forgot to uncheck the Willing to Snot checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad (do you have a homosexual-sounding nick?), and hes probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube, just waiting to pounce and declare you his new bitch. Theres no escaping a geek in heat (trust me), so its probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTacos sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to Willing to Snot. Maybe hell ignore you. Probably not.

    I cant stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

    If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot all over you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

    Have you ever been Taco-snotted?

    Unfortunately, yes. I first met Mr. Malda at an Open Source Convention. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some gourmet Tacos, but when I got there, the perverted geek jumped me and handcuffed me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his Commander out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times, virtually nonstop. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm then he snotted my own thick, gooey jizz back onto my face out of his nostrils! He snotted me two more times, first into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.
    CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, Open Sauce man sauce) buddies over to continue their ungodly snotfest. European hacker and known überfaggot Linux Torvalds raped my ass with his monolithic kernel; his partner-in-crime Anal Cox used their network stack in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice of my defenseless, tender, young body. Michael Sims was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my previously-virginal ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about all those Censorware freaks out to get him.

    That is so disgusting! How did you finally escape?

    After about 16 hours of countless unholy, homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, completely covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door (of the apartment, not their back doors). Im just glad I survived the awful ordeal. These sexually-repressed hackers had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads I couldve easily been drowned!

    Thats horrible. Does Taco-snotting have anything to do with CmdrTacos special taco?

    No, thats a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. Mr. Malda is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):
    You may be wondering what CmdrTacos special taco is. You will be wishing that you hadnt been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his special taco, CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, takes out his tiny withered dick (otherwise known as his Commander), puts his special taco sauce on it which means he jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim. After all, who would knowingly eat shit and CmdrTacos jizz?
    After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTacos nefarious homosexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victims ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved. Trust me, you do not want Jon Katz anywhere near your unconscious body. Also, rumor has it CmdrTaco is looking for a new goatse.cx guy. Dont let it be you!
    Different ungodly perversion, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that Robert CmdrTaco Malda is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

    Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a pædophile, not a homosexual.

    Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual pædophile. Hes also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile.
    Mr. Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesnt involve himself in the circle-snots, but that doest mean hes any less of a freak than the rest of the Slashdot crew. Katz often engages in a game called juicy-douching with a harem of little-boy slaves that he has collected over the years: yet another vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boys urine (forced out of them with a pair of pincers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then dribbling and slathering the goo all over himself and the boys chained, naked bodies. If hes in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag from his distended anus and just squirt it from his ass onto the crying, terrified boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pincers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them at will. A boy will usually last about two years before Mr. Katz either accidentally drowns them in diarrhea or kills them once they get too old, usually around 13 or 14.
    Not content with being a pædophilic coprophile, Mr. Katz is also quite the zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys arent enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goats anus. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goats small, bean-like turds, and he often kills his older boys by letting his goats trample them.

    Are you getting hard writing this?

    Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

    No, thanks. Im already CmdrTacos boi toi.

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    Copyright © 2001 J. Wipo Troll, Esq. Verbatim crapflooding of this document is permitted in any medium, provided this copyright notice is preserved, and next time you take a dump, you think of the WIPO Troll and all hes done to make Slashdot a better place.
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    Slashdot.org

    1. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

      Goddamnit!!

      Bring back the comments section, it was a point of personal pride for Big_Ass_Spork when he was on a small part of the snotting FAQ!!

    2. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1

      My browser (or Slashdot?) unfortunately cannot handle pasting 100k worth of text into it. (in other words it got too damned big.)

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      J. Wipo Troll, Esq.
      Crapflooder Associates
      Slashdot.org

    3. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by Trollificus · · Score: -1

      I am disrespectful to dirt! Can't you see that I'm serious! Mr. Sparkle, for your best wash!

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      "People should be allowed to keep midgets as pets."
      - Gov. Jesse Ventura

    4. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1

      Did someone snot in your breakfast today?

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      J. Wipo Troll, Esq.
      Crapflooder Associates
      Slashdot.org

    5. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by Trollificus · · Score: -1

      Hemos' mom gives me warm bawls.

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      "People should be allowed to keep midgets as pets."
      - Gov. Jesse Ventura

    6. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1

      Jesus H. jumpin' Christ on a pogo stick, that picture actually disturbed the WIPO Troll! Just momentarily, but still... yikes.

      (Those purple things hanging off her chest look more like bawls than tits.)

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      J. Wipo Troll, Esq.
      Crapflooder Associates
      Slashdot.org

    7. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by Trollificus · · Score: -1

      Well, it's a good thing you didn't share a night under the stars with Taco's sexy sister. Oi vey!

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      "People should be allowed to keep midgets as pets."
      - Gov. Jesse Ventura

    8. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1

      I've fucked his sister before, she ain't bad. Where is she in that pic, stuck somewhere in those crevices under the "woman's" arm? Ouch.

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      J. Wipo Troll, Esq.
      Crapflooder Associates
      Slashdot.org

    9. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by Trollificus · · Score: -1
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      "People should be allowed to keep midgets as pets."
      - Gov. Jesse Ventura

    10. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1

      Those are all redirecting to a nonexistent site. Poot.

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      J. Wipo Troll, Esq.
      Crapflooder Associates
      Slashdot.org

    11. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (in other words it got too damned big.)


      Something Hemos will never say about CmdrTaco's unit.

    12. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1

      Actually, CmdrTaco's taco-bells are pretty big. He has people stomp on them for him until they're swollen to the size of grapefruits. He says he enjoys it.

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      J. Wipo Troll, Esq.
      Crapflooder Associates
      Slashdot.org

    13. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by Trollificus · · Score: -1

      That shouldn't be!
      They worked for me!
      Curses, Slashdot and your space-adding URL's!!!

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      "People should be allowed to keep midgets as pets."
      - Gov. Jesse Ventura

    14. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

      Just stick a www. in front of the URL's. It took me a while to post this as I was just fucking my Teddy Bear, looking at the pix...

    15. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1

      Hey, look! It's my sister!

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      J. Wipo Troll, Esq.
      Crapflooder Associates
      Slashdot.org

    16. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by Trollificus · · Score: -1

      She's a star!

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      "People should be allowed to keep midgets as pets."
      - Gov. Jesse Ventura

    17. Re:Laser Snotter Holo-snots by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1

      Whoah, 500 Server Error all over the place. Damnit, CmdrTaco, stop snotting CowboiKneel in the server room, you know that jizz isn't good for the computers!

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      J. Wipo Troll, Esq.
      Crapflooder Associates
      Slashdot.org

  11. More on Holography by nice · · Score: 3, Informative

    I knew I'd eventually use those pointers for more than annoying people.

    http://www.shadow.net/~holodi/holobook.htm

    This seems to be a rather popular endeavor. Further resources:

    http://directory.google.com/Top/Science/Physics/Ed ucation/Light_and_Optics/Holography/

    1. Re:More on Holography by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Annoying people? Don't you have a cat?!

      .. oh that're right.. you can't use a laser pointer to excercise your cat without paying royalties! :)

    2. Re:More on Holography by Alien54 · · Score: 2
      This seems to be a rather popular endeavor

      aloty of folks are looking to figure out how to run it in reverse.

      who ever invents the first holodeck gets to make a lot of money.:-)

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      "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
  12. Usenet: Sex, hamsters and duck tape by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

    Usenet: Sex, hamsters and duck tape

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    Usenet is essentially a global bulletin board. Like e-mail, participants read and post text messages, but it also allows anyone to contribute their experience and expertise by reading and replying to those messages and forming threads. For this reason, many people flock to Usenet solely to find instant-gratification answers to their questions.

    Over 50,000 groups exist to cover topics including Rush Limbaugh and sex with hamsters using duct tape (no relation). Experts (and quacks) from around the world are more than willing to offer their advice for free, and there are plenty of people on Usenet who could use any knowledge you have.

    To participate in Usenet, you will need a news reader program such as Forte Agent for Windows, Tin for AIX (available with your university account), or Yet Another Newswatcher for Mac. Netscape Messenger and Microsoft Outlook for Macintosh and/or Windows are competent news readers but lack some features. You will also need access to a news server, such as the one provided by the U of C or another Internet service provider.

    Once you are online, you will need to choose a few news groups (such as alt.tv.star-trek). The easiest way to find a group is by browsing the Usenet newsgroup hierarchy which structures news groups by topic (for example, alt.tv.star-trek.voyager is for discussions regarding Star Trek: Voyager while alt.tv.star-trek is for Star Trek).

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    Users can find out about a particular group by lurking. Lurking, reading others' posts for a while to understand the general flow of ideas in the community, is a good way to acquaint yourself with the group. Another good idea is to read the FAQ (a list of frequently asked questions) from the newsgroup before posting since most of the common questions have already been asked and answered by others.

    If you think you've come up with a question or a discussion topic not previously addressed, or would like to contribute to a discussion, be sure to read the FAQ for posting guidelines. For instance, discussion groups about current TV shows request spoiler space (a bunch of blank lines) before anything that may give away the plot.

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  13. Sex a Hamster by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1
    Hamsters

    Susan A. Brown, DVM

    Hamsters are peculiar little rodents with large cheek pouches and short stubby tails. They have gained popularity as pets and research animals since the 1930's. The Syrian hamster's (golden hamster) wild habitat extends through the Middle East and Southeastern Europe. In 1930, a litter of eight baby hamsters was taken to Palestine and raised as research animals. Virtually all domesticated hamsters sold in the pet trade and research are descendants of three of the survivors of this litter. Hamsters were introduced first into the United States in 1938.

    Since their domestication, several color and hair coat varieties of the Syrian hamster have arisen through selective breeding. The three basic groups which now exist include the common 'golden' hamster, colored short-haired 'fancy' hamster, and long-haired 'teddy bear' hamster. All three varieties are popular as pets, while the research community generally employs the basic golden hamster.

    On occasion, one may encounter other species of hamsters, but these are much less common than the Syrian hamster. The smaller, dark brown Chinese hamster (dwarf hamster) is often used in biomedical research, and they are sometimes acquired as pets. These hamsters are recognized for their small size, dark brown color and black stripe down the back. The Armenian (grey) hamster and European hamster are two other species occasionally used in research, but seldom kept as pets. The information on the Susan Brown pages pertain particularly to Syrian or golden hamsters because they are by far the most popular.

    Diet

    As with any pet, good quality food and clean, fresh water must be provided at all times. The precise nutritional requirements of hamsters have not been fully determined. In the wild, these animals feed on plants, seeds, fruit and insects. Current recommendations for feeding in captivity are pelleted rodent ration containing 15% - 20% protein. These rations are typically processed as dry blocks or pellets designed for rodents. Seed diets are also 'formulated' and sold for hamsters, but these diets should only supplement the basic rodent pellet. Seed diets contain high levels of fat which can easily become rancid if improperly stored. In addition, when fed alone, these diets often lead to obesity and potential nutritional deficiencies, especially calcium. Other supplements to the diet may include sugarless breakfast cereals, whole wheat breads, pasta, cheese, cooked lean meats, fresh fruits and vegetables; all fed in moderation. Hamsters eat approximately 12 grams of food daily, and usually consume the majority of this at night. Hamsters are like little pack rats that often hoard their food in a corner of their cage, making it seem as though they eat a lot more than they really do.

    Water is easily provided in water bottles equipped with sipper tubes. This method also helps keep the water free from contamination. Always make sure that the tubes are positioned low enough to allow the pet easy access. Juvenile hamsters need special consideration to make sure they are strong enough to use the sipper tube as well as reach it. The average hamster drinks approximately 10 ml of water per 100 grams body weight (average adult size). Although this amount is only a fraction of the total bottle volume, fresh water should be provided daily, not only when the bottle empties.

    Diseases

    Proliferative Ileitis ( Wet Tail )
    The most commonly encountered bacterial infection recognized in hamsters is 'wet tail'. The precise cause of the disease is not fully understood, but underlying infections with the bacteria Campylobacter fetus subspecies jejuni have been reported. Similar Campylobacter sp. are responsible for serious intestinal diseases in other animal species, such as swine, dogs, ferrets, primates and even humans. Although this agent is suspected to be an underlying cause of this syndrome, pure cultures of the bacteria cannot reproduce the disease, suggesting other predisposing factors or agents. Such contributory factors include improper diet, sudden dietary changes, overcrowding and other stresses.

    This disease most often affects weanling hamsters between the ages of 3 to 6 weeks, but hamsters of all ages are susceptible. Since this is the age at which most hamsters are sold, this is a common disease encountered in recently acquired pets. The long haired 'teddy bear' hamster seems to be more vulnerable than the other varieties.

    Death may result within 1 to 7 days after the onset of watery diarrhea. Other signs include matting of the fur around the tail, unkept hair coat, hunched stance, loss of appetite, dehydration, emaciation and irritability. Blood from the rectum and rectal prolapse may be noted in some serious cases. This is a very serious disease, with death being the most likely outcome. Due to the severity, any hamster exhibiting these signs must be examined by a veterinarian as soon as possible. Antibiotics, fluid therapy and anti-diarrheal medications will be administered to the patient. Supportive care will also be instituted. Despite all the best efforts, treatment is often unrewarding with death occurring within a couple days in many cases.

    Hair Loss ( Alopecia )
    Hair loss can occur for a number of reasons in hamsters. This loss of hair can be due to both disease and nondisease conditions. Continual rubbing on feeders or sides of the cage as well as protein deficiency and barbering (hair chewing by cage mates), are examples of nondisease causes of alopecia. Infestation with demodectic mites is one of the most common infectious causes of patchy alopecia and scaling in hamsters. Other conditions that lead to hair loss include adrenal tumors, thyroid deficiency, and chronic renal disease. Some of these conditions may be correctable, while others are not.

    Demodex mites are the most common external parasite causing problems in hamsters. The mite lives within the hair follicles and certain skin glands of their host. The presence of these mites result in dry, scaly skin and subsequent hair loss, especially over the back and rump. This disease is rarely a problem by itself. Demodectic mange in hamsters is often associated with chronic, debilitating diseases or other underlying problems. For this reason, a thorough examination must be performed on any hamster presented with mites. To confirm the presence of mites, the veterinarian may perform a skin scraping for microscopic observation. Treatment for the mites is often possible, but remember that there may be another problem, often more severe, underlying this one which must also be addressed.

    Old Age Diseases ( Geriatric Conditions )
    Hamsters tend to have relatively short life spans when compared with other species. The average life expectancy of a hamster is between 2 and 3 years of age. For this reason, spontaneous aging diseases are not uncommon in these animals, typically after the age of one year. Two of the most common geriatric diseases of hamsters are amyloidosis (protein deposition in various organs) and cardiac thrombosis (blood clots in the heart). Treatment of these conditions involves managing clinical signs because a cure is not possible. A diagnosis of virtually any geriatric disease carries a poor prognosis.

    Amyloidosis is a condition whereby proteins produced by the body are deposited in various organs, primarily the liver and kidneys. Kidney and liver failure often occurs as a result of this protein deposition. Many other organs are also affected, and the changes are irreversible. Signs of this condition include swollen abdomen, urinary problems, dehydration, poor appetite and rough hair coat. Supportive care is the only treatment since this condition is eventually terminal.

    Blood clots within the heart occur at a relatively high frequency in older hamsters. This condition is known as cardiac thrombosis, and typically occurs in the left side of the heart. Many factors are involved in the formation of these clots including clotting disorders, heart failure, circulating bacterial infection and amyloidosis. Many other old age diseases occur in hamsters over the age of one year. Liver and kidney disease is not uncommon in middle age to old hamsters. Other conditions commonly encountered are gastric ulcers, tumors, and dental diseases.

    Facts

    Average Life Span: 2 - 3 years

    Adult Body Weight: 100 - 150 grams

    Environmental Temperature Range: 65 - 80 F

    Relative Humidity Range: 40 - 70 %

    Age at First Breeding: male : 10-14 wks, female: 6-10 wks

    Gestation Period: 15.5 - 16 days

    Litter Size: 5 - 10 (average)

    Weaning Age: 21 - 25 days

    Handling

    Hamsters handled frequently from a young age usually remain docile and seldom bite. These animals of a docile nature can be picked up gently by cupping in one or both hands and held against one's body. Beware that even docile hamsters may bite if surprised or abruptly awakened from sleep.

    Other hamsters, however, may not have received a lot of attention and handling throughout their lives, and thus may be more apprehensive and aggressive. Any animal whose personality is not fully known must be approached cautiously. The use of a small towel or gloves can assist the handler in capturing and restraining such a pet. Another method of capture involves coaxing the animal into a container (such as a can or tube), which can then be removed from the cage. Once removed from the cage, biting hamsters can be restrained by grasping a large amount of skin at the scruff of the neck. As much skin as possible must be grasped using this method because their skin is very loose. If lightly scruffed, the hamster can easily turn around within its skin and bite the handler.

    Housing

    Several types of cages are available that are suitable for housing hamsters. Many of these units come equipped with cage 'furniture' such as exercise wheels, tunnels and nest boxes as added luxuries. Such accessories, as well as sufficient litter depth within which to burrow, are desirable for the pet's psychological well-being. Cages should be constructed with rounded corners to prevent chewing. Hamsters will readily chew through wood, light plastic and soft metal; so recommended caging materials are wire, stainless steel, durable plastic and glass. Beware that glass and plastic containers drastically reduce ventilation and can lead to problems with humidity, temperature and odor concentration. These materials make suitable cages when at least one side of the enclosure is open for air circulation. In addition, make sure that the enclosure is escape proof, because these little rodents are known escape artists.

    Hamsters do very well in solid bottom cages with deep bedding and ample nesting material. Bedding must be clean, non-toxic, absorbent, relatively dust free, and easily acquired. Shredded paper or tissue, wood shavings and processed corn cob are preferred bedding. Be sure that the wood shavings and ground corn cob are free from mold, mildew or other contamination before using. Cotton and shredded tissue paper make excellent nesting materials.

    Adult hamsters require a minimum floor area of 19 square inches and a cage height of 6 inches. Female breeding hamsters require much larger areas. Optimal temperature range for hamsters is between 65o to 80oF, with babies doing best at 70o to 75oF. The relative humidity should be between 40% and 70%. Twelve hour light cycles are preferred, with hamsters being more active during the night.

    Pet hamsters are generally housed singly. Mature female hamsters tend to be very aggressive towards one another and should never be housed together. Females are also larger and more aggressive than males, thus males usually need to be separated immediately after breeding. Males may also fight when housed together, but tend to be less aggressive than females.

    As a rule of thumb, the cage and accessories should be cleaned thoroughly once to twice weekly. An exception to this schedule is when newborn babies are present; wait until they are at least two weeks old to disturb the cage. Other factors that may require increased frequency of cleaning are the number of hamsters in the cage, the type of bedding material provided, and the cage design and size. Cages are sanitized with hot water and nontoxic disinfectant or detergent, then thoroughly rinsed. Water bottles and food dishes should be cleaned and disinfected daily.

    Reproduction

    The sex of hamsters can be easily determined. Mature male hamsters possess large, prominent testicles, which often alarm owners who first notice their size and mistake them for tumors. In addition, the genitourinary to anal separation is much wider in males than females, making it possible to sex young hamsters.

    Male hamsters should be first bred at 10 to 14 weeks of age. Females can be bred at the age of 6 to 10 weeks. As the female comes into 'heat' she will begin assuming a breeding stance with her back swayed and body stretched out. When petted over her back, she will remain motionless and sway her back even further. A thin mucus will be noticed coming from her vulva on the next day of the 'heat' cycle, which indicates that estrus will occur two days later. For breeding, place the female into the male's cage about one hour before dark. Closely observe the pair for mating activity or fighting. Females can be very aggressive towards males and can cause serious injuries. At the first sign of aggression by the female, remove the male; then try again the next night. Also, remove the male shortly after a successful mating has taken place.

    Pregnancy is of very short duration in hamsters; lasting only 15 to 16 days. Just before delivery, the expectant mother will become restless and may discharge a small amount of blood from her vulva. Do not handle or disturb her at this time. It is wise to clean her cage two weeks following breeding, so her cage is relatively clean when babies arrive. Litter size ranges from 5 to 10 pups; larger litters are not uncommon. The pups are born hairless with their eyes and ears closed. However, they do already have their front teeth, the incisors.

    Provide ample nesting material and bedding for the new mother and young. Plenty of fresh food and water should be available before the babies are born. DO NOT disturb the mother and young for any reason during the first week or two after birth. If a mother hamster seems threatened for any reason, she typically will kill and cannibalize the young. In other instances, she may stuff the young into her cheek pouches and frantically carry them around the cage looking for a safe place to establish a nest. Occasionally, pups will suffocate as a result of this activity, especially if the disturbance is prolonged.

    Young hamsters usually begin eating solid food at 7 to 10 days of age, but are not weaned until 21 to 25 days. Provide food on the cage floor for the young and mother, and also have soaked, softened pellets available for them as well. Make sure that the water bottle is low enough for the weanlings to use, and that they are strong enough to use it; or provide an alternative water source during this time.

  14. Holograms, and more...? by BrianGa · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    How long until we have instructions on how to make a Holodeck?

    1. Re:Holograms, and more...? by daeley · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Well, the Federation won't be exposed to true-to-life holodeck technology until 2151 when the Enterprise meets up with the Xyrillians. It's a while to wait, but worth it I bet. :)

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    2. Re:Holograms, and more...? by Trollificus · · Score: -1

      It looks like this rat is getting more pussy than you'll ever see.

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  15. I Did It! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    I finally fit my whole hand up my ass! It feels really good! Now I just need to get it back out...

    uh oh....

  16. HOW TO MAKE IT WITH HAMSTERS by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

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  17. More in laser pointer holography by yknott · · Score: 2, Informative

    Laser pointer holography was originaly developed by Frank DeFreitas. His web site http://www.holoworld.com/holo/diode.html has many pictures of his work. Quite a marvel. You should buy his book. It is very informative. It's about 17 bucks from Amazon.com Its very helpful and takes you step by step in the process and a bit into the history of holograms etc. I'be had great success with his process. It's a bit harder to find his holographic plates, and this isn't exactly the cheapest thing in the world. The plates cost me US$60 for five or six! But the results are great. You CAN'T use this for any kind of forgery because the holograms are on a glass substrate. I suppose it is possible to put it on plastic somehow. But beats me on how to do it.

    W-S

    1. Re:More in laser pointer holography by FTL · · Score: 5, Informative
      > Laser pointer holography was originaly developed by Frank DeFreitas.
      > You should buy his book

      Absolutely not. Avoid that book like the plague. The supplier for his plates has gone out of business. The new supplier that took over manufacture of these plates describes Frank's technique as "crap". And it is.

      I made the mistake of purchasing his book and trying to get results. He makes things far far more complicated than they need to be. By contrast, the integraf techiques (as linked to from the main /. article) are much simpler much cheaper and produce perfect holograms. I just finished making some stunning integraf holograms a couple of days ago.

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    2. Re:More in laser pointer holography by FTL · · Score: 2
      > Absolutely not. Avoid that book like the plague.

      Sorry, I didn't mean to be quite so energetic with my comments about Frank's "shoebox holography". He was (acording to him) the first person to use laser diodes. However the fact remains that his book hasn't aged well. As I said before, the main suplier for the plates has gone out of business. And in the mean time other people (such as Integraf) have come up with far simpler, easier and better methods. Whereas Frank uses a creaky assembly of threaded pipes, pipe ends, several spring clips, a lens, and a laser, Integraph gets much better results with just one laser, a clothes pin and a container of salt. Integraf's technique is so good that you don't even need a vibration isolation table!

      Frank's "Shoebox Holography" may have been the bible of laser diode holography several years ago. But Integraf has rendered him obsolete.

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  18. A Winner is You!! by egg+troll · · Score: -1

    Good job being able to type with one hand up your ass. I know when I'm self-fisting, I have to peck at the keyboard with a pencil in my teeth, because I'm furiously whacking off with my other hand.

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  19. Did this project last month with my brother by flxkid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It was really quite interesting to setup. The ones we made turned out so-so. The problem was the only room that we had to create the holograms in was on the 2nd floor of the house. So all kinds of vibrations from below caused some problems.

    If ur going 2 do this urself, I'd advise setting up the project in a school's darkroom or janitor's closet with a cement floor.

    Make sure ur far away from streets and all forms of noise (and therefore vibrations) as this REALLY causes problems.

    FLXkid (the Visual Dataflex Guru)
    ...
    Better VDF than VD!

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    1. Re:Did this project last month with my brother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just had to ruin your entire post by going an using "ur" and "2", didn't you?

    2. Re:Did this project last month with my brother by flxkid · · Score: 1

      Well, after I got that keyboard with the "ur", "2", "4", "b", "n", "l8a", and "OU812" keys...

      Oh and btw, u try typing proper all day with a friggin brace on ur arm!!! :)

      Back 2 the topic though...I used concrete bricks with vibration dampening feet 2 kill the vibes.

      FLXkid

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    3. Re:Did this project last month with my brother by stripes · · Score: 2
      The problem was the only room that we had to create the holograms in was on the 2nd floor of the house. So all kinds of vibrations from below caused some problems.

      Interesting. Maybe the best thing to do is do it outside on a dark night, or in side a light tight bag (like the kind they sell for changing film on medium or large format cameras...or even for 35mm HIE work).

      Make sure ur far away from streets and all forms of noise (and therefore vibrations) as this REALLY causes problems.

      Outside after a long hike into no man's land it is then...at least if holographic plates/film hold a latent image well. If you put one in a light tight bag after you expose it (or leave it in the bag and take the laser out), does the image remain stable until you develop it, or do you need to do that as soon as possible?

  20. Slashdot Sux0rs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What? Out of 20 posts. 2 are non-troll?

    ...... and 2 of those non troll posts are fuckin useless to read anyway.

  21. Trolls by BrianGa · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    First 8 responses were posted by trolls. They're hitting refresh every 5 seconds, waiting for a new story...and they call us losers? haha!

    1. Re:Trolls by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

      Actually, I seldom do that. Mostly I just reply to the FP to be high on the page. This does the trick for visibility. I think that trolling is an artform, constantly being refined from its 20+ year practice. I pray I never see a day when trolling is abandaned. It enriches each of our existances measurably, and gives me something to do in between sodomizing my teddy bear (a 1989 model Snuggle (TM) bear).

      Note to self: clean snuggle bear.

    2. Re:Trolls by philipm · · Score: -1

      Do you pretend this teddy bear is pooh and that you are christopher robbins?

    3. Re:Trolls by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

      No.

      I fucking hate Pooh.

      Fuck Pooh.

      Viva le Snuggle, hhmmmmm Snuggle...

  22. 650 nm laser...hmmm by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The laser pointer they used has a 650 nm laser...hmmm.
    Wonder what a hologram of a DVD would look like, given that 4.7 GB DVD-R discs use 650 nm lasers in the recording process?

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  23. You have been trolled, Ralph JewHater Nader by core10k · · Score: -1

    Gotcha!

    1. Re:You have been trolled, Ralph JewHater Nader by Ralph+JewHater+Nader · · Score: -1

      How do you know that isn't really happening? You naive little bastard! Beware the negro and the jew!

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  24. Waay cool... by The+Paradox · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ...not even Star Trek has hologram generators the size of a pen. }}}:-) What? What, you say? They're not that kind of hologram? Well, shit. :D

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  25. Loser! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    haha!

    -A. Troll

  26. A few more laser point holography links by tmasssey · · Score: 1

    This is been done for years now. A couple of links. Check the dates. http://www.3dimagery.com/pointer.html http://www.holoworld.com/holo/diode.html Tim Massey Don't say I never gave you anything

  27. Last summer... by Link310 · · Score: 1

    I actually went to a little seminar one day at the MIT Media Lab where we did this. It was really cool. You can make much more impressive holograms with the right equipment, but the fact that you can do it with a laser pointer and not this expensive monster of a laser is really neat

  28. is this going to be a contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
  29. Can I interest you in some holography? by daeley · · Score: 2, Funny

    Man: Is your uh, is your wife interested in....holography, ay? 'Holographs, ay', he asked him knowingly?

    Squire: Holography?

    Man: Snap snap, grin grin, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more?

    Squire: Laser pointer diodes, eh?

    Man: They could be, they could be taken with diodes. Candid, you know, CANDID holography?

    Squire: No, no I'm afraid we don't have a laser pointer.

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  30. Has anyone seen monty python? by kiwipeso · · Score: -1

    know what i mean? know what i mean?

    I wonder if I could get my cd mavica to do that?

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  31. Been there, done that, works great. by FTL · · Score: 4, Interesting
    A couple of days ago I just finished creating my first set of holograms based on their techniques. And I have to say that it was a lot of fun and turned out quite well. If you've never tried creating holograms, give it a shot. It takes a bit of time, but it is well worth it.

    The only catch is that these holograms are only visible at a very narrow range of angles. Not just the two angles of rotation to your eye, but also the two angles of rotation to the point light source. So it can take a bit of fiddling before you suddenly see something. But when you do, it's very sharp and detailed.

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    1. Re:Been there, done that, works great. by wedg · · Score: 1

      So how long is it before we start seeing amature holographic pornography? Oh sure, they'd have to stand there for a while, but wouldn't it be worth it?

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    2. Re:Been there, done that, works great. by Trracer · · Score: 1

      Well, they don't have to stand still that long! Just make a holograph out of a pictur...uhm, nevermind.

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  32. Ahahahaha! by egg+troll · · Score: -1

    When I read that parent post, my first thought was "Hey when is Ralph Nader going to bite on this." I'm very pleased he didn't disappoint.

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    1. Re:Ahahahaha! by Ralph+JewHater+Nader · · Score: -1

      Ralph Nader hates jews. Everyone knows that. He's a towelhead.

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  33. Laser pointer projection fun by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Those laser pointers you can get with with switchable tips that cause the device to project different 2D images (by multi-slit-diffraction, I suspect) can be fun. One time I was in a hotel up on the tenth floor and I had just bought one of these toys.

    [Side note: yes, I know this is somewhat off topic, but this thing I'm about to tell you could have amplified effect with 3D projections.]

    I stuck on the tip which projected a 'UFO' image, stepped out onto the balcony and shone it onto the ground. I moved it around and after a few seconds I heard some little girl scream "MOMMY!" so then turned it off. Imagine what you could do with one of these things projecting the right 3D image ... fun!

    1. Re:Laser pointer projection fun by mikefoley · · Score: 1

      Laser pointers are great for entertaining cats. Ours fly around the room trying to catch the point of light.

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    2. Re:Laser pointer projection fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kill the Cat slowely and painfully.

      Far more entertaining.

    3. Re:Laser pointer projection fun by uspsguy · · Score: 1

      That technique is patented. I assume you have licensed the technology?

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    4. Re:Laser pointer projection fun by stripes · · Score: 2
      Laser pointers are great for entertaining cats.

      Works well for lion as well as house cats.

      Not so well for ants.

  34. coping with vibrations by kazzuya · · Score: 1

    My father was playing with holograms with a home made HeNe laser about 20 years ago I think.
    At the time I didn't understand much of the process but I remember he had to borrow a street level place in a low traffic area and had to place the working plane on a stack of strange things such as buckets of sand and tires' inner tubes.
    Doesn't sound too professional but might still work.

    baubau

  35. oh no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I wet myself in a diaper

  36. Does this mean... by cliffy2000 · · Score: 1

    That I can finally custom-make my holo-friend? I've always wanted a friend, but hologram technology hasn't caught up with my needs. Geeks have needs, too!!!

  37. Holorgram or holograph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Im bit confused on those two:

    holograph - the 3d image on credit card

    hologram - projected 3d image in space

    Did i get it right, or is it the other way around?

    1. Re:Holorgram or holograph by istartedi · · Score: 1

      Better yet, if you did this in a cave you could argue as to whether you had made a hologram of a stalctite, a holograph of a stalgmite, a hologram of a stalagmite, or a holograph of a stalactite. If you bring a piece of space rock with you, it could get even more complicated, but I think some of these permutations are only possible in outer space and/or impossible.

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  38. Actually by egg+troll · · Score: -1

    I just go to Slashdot and there it is! The covetted first post, just waiting for me with its legs spread wide like the whore it is. How can I not resist sticking it in?

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  39. This, sir, is why moderation works so well. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    is this going to be a contest (Score:0, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 29, @10:11PM (#2763836)
    of who can link the most websites about holograms...cause i just won!

    The holoshop [holoshop.com]

    another page [holograms-online.co.uk]

    yahoo group on holography [yahoo.com]

    the big holobook [shadow.net]

    how to shoot holograms [imagesco.com]

    holoworld [holoworld.com]

    silver holographic [silver-holographic.com]

    holophile [holophile.com]

    the last one but a good one [come.to]
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]

    Moderation Totals: Flamebait=1, Informative=1, Total=2.

  40. Heh, knowing me.. by A_Non_Moose · · Score: 1

    I'd probably be the smart ass that would creat a hologram of the windows 2000 cd.

    (you know, the one with the hologram on it?)

    Would that be like putting mirror in front of a mirror?

    Anywho, off to bed....

    .

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  41. Royalties? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HA! I'd like to see them extract royalties while I exercise my cat on Sealand!

  42. Oh great...!! by erroneus · · Score: 1, Troll

    ...Yet another thing those annoying teenagers can do with this annoying pointers at the movie theaters...

    When will those guys STOP?!?!

    1. Re:Oh great...!! by Ziviyr · · Score: 1

      When will those guys STOP?!?!

      About the day they can sneak a pulse-cannon into the theater instead. :-)

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    2. Re:Oh great...!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      >annoying teenagers... annoying pointers... movie
      >theatres...

      I've never actually witnessed this phenomenon, fortunately enough for the would-be perpertrators.

      But I can guarantee that when I do, the persons responsible, provided they survive the laser pointer literally shoved down their throats, will be removed from the theater and given trespass warrants to keep them out, if they can't be arrested right then and there, and the manager of the theatre will refund my ticket price.

  43. Pointer? Pointless! by tcc · · Score: 3, Informative

    Get a used HeNe laser off ebay or any Optics surplus, with TEM00 properties (which means the laser is coherent... needed for holography, and you'll be able to make some holograms that have more than a few millimeters of coherence (hense, depth).

    Laser Diodes holography really sucks, it's pricey for the result you get, learn the thing with the right basic parts. If you're ready to invest let's say 400$ worth of chemicals films and all, with the idea of doing more in the future, might as well invest in the proper "amateur equipment"

    Also: High power laser diodes in a decent spectrum (630-640nm) aren't THAT powerful, or if they are, (more than 5mw) they are pricey. These laser diodes lacks coherence (notice how close are the object from the plates). Without coherence, you don't get depth, without power, you have more chances that your object might move (if the object moves just a quarter of the wavelength, it screws up the hologram), so getting a cheap used 20mW HeNe laser gives you the benifit of power (you won't make a 8x10 with that, unless you have a really stable environment that can take 30+seconds exposure time depending on the object, of course doing the hologram of a fruit might not work too well with that much exposure because only the "fermentation" of the fruit over 30 seconds changes the structure in the nm scale :), yeah sometimes it's that crazy, I tried :) ).

    The only downside of Gas lasers is their lifespan. You can be lucky and it would last for 3-4 years, like you can get one that will last for 6 months, depends on the manufacturer, prices, condition. Normally they give you the tube usage and lifespan. Also, it requires high voltage power supply, which isn't a problem for the low power heNe lasers (under 30mw at the output).

    Holography is cool, but it takes patience, a lot of trial/error, and when you want to move a step further, it takes as much money than doing high-end photography (with all the optics and chemicals).

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    1. Re:Pointer? Pointless! by hyrdra · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'd like to make a few comments on your post as one who has been in this field for over five years.

      First, TEM00 has very little to do with coherence properties. It's a type of resonant mode and has more to do with polarization than anything else. A TEM00 laser is not required to make holograms, nor is a polarized laser. In fact, ruby lasers which are not TEM00 and Argons who often mode jump left and right are used very often for holography.HeNe's are naturally coherent due to the spectral output characteristics of Neon, which doesn't change wavelength very well based on temperature or power flux. Diodes, on the other hand, have rated shift in wavelength with temperature and/or power. However, newer power supplies automatically sense changes via a feedback loop photodiode and adjust power characteristics accordingly. A good diode with a digital PSU will give you 12+ feet in workable coherence. Add a themoelectric cooler to stabilize the temperature and you can increase it even more. That being said, I doubt anyone has any use with 12 feet of coherence or more. A polarized HeNe from the manufacture Coherent, for example, has several 100's of yards coherence. But who needs that much, seriously? For doing simple objects, a few feet is plenty.

      Remember, the goal is trying to record the interference patterns of two (or more) beams on a film plate. Light only interferes well with like-wavelengths, so when your diode shifts in the middle of a 40 second exposure, it will degrade the pattern and thus the diffraction efficiency (if a transmission hologram) of the hologram, and thus the brightness -- the rest of the light is loss to scattering. However, with a 50 mW diode you can easily have sub-second exposure times with a 3x4" plate, which should produce a hologram with equal quality as one produced by a HeNe.

      A good test to find out the coherence length of your diode is the classical Michelson Interferometer. It produces controllable interference via a path length delta in one of the optical arms. As long as you can obtain an interference pattern at delta, that is your coherence length. I tested a 5 mW diode from Radio Shack and got around 3 feet of coherence.

      There are many advantages to using laser diodes for holography over the conventional HeNe. First, they're cheap -- much more so in the price/power ratio than a new or surplus HeNe. You can get a complete 50 mW 650 nm laser diode system for around $500. That's plenty of power for doing 8x10's with exposure times in the seconds. Diodes are also small and do not involve high voltages associated with the gas discharge tube-type supplies HeNe's employ. Even a used 20 mW HeNe on eBay (which is very rare) will run you about $700 to over $1k. A new one could cost several thousand. Better to get a multiline argon and do color ~

      I should also point out that you can obtain very high power diodes at around 670 nm -- these diodes produce 1W or more of power and cost only a few hundred. The beam requires a fair amount of conditioning because the emitter is rectangular and thus emmits a beam high in divergence, but an anamorphic prism pair will give you a nice round beam with 1.2 mRad of divergence for miles.

      Another thing to think about it that the HeNe, as a technology, has been around since the late 1960's. It's old and there is no more R&D going on with gas lasers. Diodes, on the other hand, continue to be a very hot materials and science research area. Diodes are getting more stable, smaller, more efficient, and the wavelengths keep going doing (Nichia makes 400 nm diodes now). You can also purchase a diode pumped solid state (DPSS) system to frequency double an IR diode to create useable green output. HeNe's see no more devlopment in these areas and are being replaced by diodes. This actually decreases demand and thus increases price...do the math!!

      Anyway, hope this helps someone. I have been using a TE cooled 500 mW Philips diode with digital PSU built from a PIC, with dual anamorphic filtering. With this setup I am able to create very bright holograms with several feet coherence length...

      At long last -- yes, it is true you can make holograms with a laser pointer!

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    2. Re:Pointer? Pointless! by tcc · · Score: 2

      Thanks for the clarification, it was 1am when I wrote this, I might want to add one thing though, the HeNe I got a few years ago were 10mW tubes and PSU for 100$ each, sometimes you can get great deals just by looking around.

      I'm really impressed that you got 3 feet of coherence with Diodes, maybe I should look into testing newer ones as well.

      As for 670nM the hologram won't be as bright as if you would have used 635nM, the higher you go in the spectrum the less sensible it is to the human eye. Or did you test something that contradict this as well? :)

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    3. Re:Pointer? Pointless! by stripes · · Score: 2
      Holography is cool, but it takes patience, a lot of trial/error, and when you want to move a step further, it takes as much money than doing high-end photography (with all the optics and chemicals).

      While I don't completely doubt you, I do want to make sure we have the same idea of "high-end photography".

      Canon has a 600mm f/4 lens and a 1200mm f/5.6 lens. Neither have list prices (well the 1200mm doesn't, I think the 600mm doesn't either). They are not stocked items either. Not just not stocked at camera (even CPS) stores, Canon also does not stock them.

      You call Canon, they quote you a price and build time, and then they make it. Not sure if you pay first, or after.

      One can also spend quite a bit on lights, $400 is on the very low end for a studio light, and some studios use 10+ of them ($200 is a good price for an amature's light, and it might be usable as a hair light to a pro if it is reliable enough).

      Some triggers (sound/laser) are in the $600 range, and fiddling with them trying to find the right delay and distance and sensitivity settings to catch a bullet in flight, or a balloon collapsing, or the like can consume many 36 exposure rolls of film (many pros don't like digital for that sort of work -- I expect they will in a few years though).

      35mm pro film cameras cost $1000 to $2000, digital $2000 (D30 - bad AF for a pro camera, bad flash exposure for a pro camera, bad weather seal for a pro camera, great everything else) to $5000 to $8000.

      Medimum format and large format cameras cost more, depending (actually the Holga 120 costs about $15, but it sucks pretty bad). MF digital scanning backs can cost $50,000 and up (as in $120,000 or more).

      Drum scanners make a Nikon 8000ED seem cheap.

      Cibachromes can approach $100 *per print* from a master printer.

      Is Holography going to run that much? (hmmm, may be time for a second job...)

    4. Re:Pointer? Pointless! by TEMOO · · Score: 1

      I have used both a 5mw helium neon and a cheapo 3 to 5mw pointer diode laser. The helium neon has been sitting in the closet gathering dust for 8 months. The diode laser has only 5 minutes warm up time, at least 2 feet of coherence length compared to 8 inches with the gas laser. It's smaller, less fragle. Another plus, if your doing single beam holography you can pull the lens off the pointer and the beam diverges with out an extra lens. At least as far as holography is concerned, I think neon helium lasers are going to go the way of vacuum tubes.

    5. Re:Pointer? Pointless! by hyrdra · · Score: 2

      As for 670nM the hologram won't be as bright as if you would have used 635nM, the higher you go in the spectrum the less sensible it is to the human eye. Or did you test something that contradict this as well? :)

      Actually if you soak the plate in some post-processor (depends on plate type/manufacture), it will shrink the plate, shrinking the interference fringes and thus lowering the wavelength. This still doesn't get rid of the sensitivity problem (most holographic film is more sensitive to 632.8 nm, the wavelength of a HeNe laser, than higher red wavelengths but it's still perportional), but using this method it is possible to create green and even blue colored holograms by shrinking the plate after exposure with a higher wavelength laser. Some of the green 550 nm holograms I've done are truly stunning in their brightness. If you think of a hologram more as fancy diffraction grating than a picture you can envision some really cool stuff. Try taking a transmission hologram of a lens and then viewing it -- you'll find you have created a holographic optical element -- a diffractive reproduction of a glass/plastic lens which bends light by changes in it's speed, and transformed it into something which bends light via diffractive effects and interference.

      What's really cool is taking a hologram of a telescope or other optical arrangement and then when you look through the lens of the holographic telescope it actually works!

      Optical science is always so fascinating.

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    6. Re:Pointer? Pointless! by tcc · · Score: 2

      Yeah I've seen some HOE stuff like you're referring to with the telescope, it's really interresting. You're lacking several diverging lenses? no problems, make an HOE of the lense and stick it back in the optical setup. Of course there's a big loss of power depending on the efficiency of the hologram, but it's still impressive :)

      Of course post-processing the plate is an option that I've completely forgot, maybe because I am more of a "less steps less chances of screwing up" type of person :) for the sensitivity you can always pre-latencify it depending on which type of film used (and of course if the datasheets are representative of the media used, some datasheets seems rather "what you SHOULD expect" from a batch of plates to another :) ).

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    7. Re:Pointer? Pointless! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WOW! this is very helpful. Now if only I had access to a PSU, interferometer, cooling equipment, etc.

      I think the point of this article was to show how to make a SIMPLE hologram at home, with SIMPLE, INEXPENSIVE equipment. I don't think anyone who reads your post will be creating professional grade holograms.

  44. Reminds me of the red-and-blue approach by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    When I was a kid (or was that a teenager?) I used to draw (simple) 3D images with red and blue pencils and then view them thru those silly red-and-blue 3D movie glasses.

    It is easier than the arc-scratch technique, but requires the funny specticles. Trade-offs trade-offs. But, red-and-blue gives more instant gratification.

    My fav was the Dolly Parton sketch.

    Hey! Can I patent a new way to hide porm from the mom? Beats one-click shopping.

    1. Re:Reminds me of the red-and-blue approach by vortexau · · Score: 1

      But then....
      RED AND BLUE Courier!

      NOW, that's a Stereotype! :)

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    2. Re:Reminds me of the red-and-blue approach by vortexau · · Score: 1

      IF you draw a RED and BLUE Tiger...

      Really well, mind you....

      Will it leap out at you?
      .

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  45. "more power" walkthrough by c0enzyme · · Score: 2, Informative

    www.photologie.net has a geat walkthrough for laser pointer holograms with lots of pictures.

    It covers adding more power to the pointer as well and some details for opening the caseing without damageing it.

    Bust out your Dremel tool and potentiometer, and use the fish cuz its in French.

  46. Ian Stuart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah I agree. He was one of the good guys. It was tragic, he left us with alot of great music. Hail Victory Ian!

  47. Make a hologram out of THIS! by GODLYDavidRing · · Score: -1

    To get this through the slashdot junk filter, view the HTML source and copy and paste it from there, not from the browser. This work of art (author unknown, but source is http://goatse.cx/contrib.html) uses special HTML code, devised by a hardworking genius (Klerck?), to get through the junk filter.

    I use Windows XP Corporate Professional (because Linux is for fags and overidealistic groupthinking kiddies), so I use wordpad since it doesn't reformat my text like notepad does.

    Calling all trolls: before they figure out how to fix it, POST THIS GOATSE IMAGE EVERYWHERE! Extra points are given for linking the entire image to to hello.mpg as I have done.

    Thank you and pwaise Jesus!

    * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g g o / \ \ / \ o a \ a t `. : t s` \ s e \ / / \\\ -- \\ : e x \ \/ --~~ ~-- \ x * \ \-~ ~-\ * g \ \ .--------.___\ g o \ \// ((> \ o a \ . C ) ((> / a t /\ C )/ \ (> / t s / /\ C) (> / \ s e ( C__)\___/ // _/ / \ e x \ \\// (/ x * \ \) `---- --' * g \ \ / / g o / \ o a / \ \ a t / / \ t s / / \/\/ s e / e x x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x *

  48. Stereoscopic 3D Desktop Wallpaper by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 1, Offtopic



    In a similar vein, I've spent the past week or two trying to develop a way to produce seamless, stereoscopic 3D desktop backgrounds. I've always had an interest in stereography, but until now I couldn't find a way to apply it to my PROPAGANDA tiles..

    Just yesterday morning I finally managed to produce (and can reproduce at will) stereoscopic 3D wallpaper in Gimp. No rendering, no photography, nuthin but pure hand-made goodness in Gimp. :) The next best thing to holography, I suppose. :) Have a look here for a small example image, or if you have a very large display, you can see the unscaled original here. Just bring it up in any image viewer, or set it as your background..The fun part about it is that casual onlookers look at your desktop and just see a nice background...You would only know it was 3D if somebody told you. :) It doesn't require any special 3D glasses or anything stupid like that -- All you need to do is lightly cross your eyes like looking at the image. Here's a quick lesson in how to see it in 3D -- Sit squarely in your chair a few feet away, directly facing your monitor. Don't look at it at an angle. Cross your eyes lightly until you see "the one in the middle". If you have problems seeing it, hold up a pencil exactly halfway between your eyes and the screen. Focus on the tip of the pencil for a few seconds and whammo, you'll see the background show up in 3D.. When tiled as a background, the 3D effect looks like an egg-carton, or like the sound-dampening walls of a recording studio. Spikes and pits. For added mirth and merriment, swivel in your chair a little bit and you'll see the image move correspondingly. Even more fun, is trying to move back slowly while seeing it. The farther you move back, the deeper the image will appear. I'll probably surprise the gimp-devel folks with an explanation of how its done in a day or two. :)

    Cheers,

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    1. Re:Stereoscopic 3D Desktop Wallpaper by vortexau · · Score: 1

      Have you tried Random Dot Stereographs?

      PersonalPaint on the Amiga can produce R.D.S's.,
      even an Animated R.D.S.

      To the onlooker an RDS just looks like a pattern,
      until you tell the onlooker to look into the
      screen.

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    2. Re:Stereoscopic 3D Desktop Wallpaper by |_uke · · Score: 1

      Actually, crossing your eyes is usually the 'quick' method to seeing the 3d image in a stereograph. Unless the stereograph was designed for this method, it will result in the depth being reversed. Normally you are supposed to set your point of focus beond the image.

      Most printed stereograph's use the 'slow' method.

      (I call it slow, because it is usually harder to set your point of focus FURTHER away than it is to set it closer.)

      Another side effect to using the 'quick' method (besides the image being in reverse) is that the image will appear smaller in size than if the 'slow' method is used. Atleast this is the effect I get :)

      Of course I do do not remember the last time I played with a stereograph... its been a while... However I have tried both of these methods while on the john looking at the tiles at the floor... Have to have something to do when you have nothing to read :)

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  49. fun thing to do with lasers. Build a phaser by spike+hay · · Score: 1

    If you built yourself 2 nitrogen lasers (produce UVA light) and you pumped high voltage electricity into them, you will have an electric beam that will shoot a few hundred yards.
    It works because the intense UV light from the laser ionizes the oxygen in the air. Ionized air is more conductive of electricity. The high voltage electricity shoots down the path of the laser beams.
    You have to have two laser beams to have a complete circuit. If you shot this at a deer or somthing, the electricity would travel down one beam, pass through the deer's central nervous system, and pass back out on the other beam.
    BTW, you could set it from "stun" to "kill"
    Also there is quite a few people who build nitrogen lasers. Its not hard.

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  50. neat... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    now you can not only make a copy of the latest version of microsoft windows on a cdr, but you can use your warez versions of photoshop and pagemaker to print boxes and labels and make a nice little microsoft hologram logo for them to complete the look. neato, hehehe. =)

  51. laser painted holloman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    laser painted holloman

  52. sandbox for cheap optical table by call+-151 · · Score: 2
    I don't think anyone has mentioned a reasonable way of damping vibrations on the cheap. We set up a cheap optical table (in high school, 20 years ago...) by building a sandbox and setting on four motorcycle inner tubes. That did a good job of minimizing vibration which was important since our exposure times were about 2 minutes with our very weak laser... A nice benefit was that by putting mirrors and objects mounted on PVC pipe tubes, we could use the sand to position things were we wanted them- just ram them in and wiggle into the best spot... Those were the days...

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